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Old Apr 11, 2005, 01:01 AM   #1
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Major PC problem....

I have a computer that's having trouble starting up properly and was wondering if anyone here can help me out. The specs are an Athlon 64 2800+ socket 754 cpu, a Chaintech Nforce3 250 "VNF3-250" motherboard, and a gig of Corsair PC3200 Value Ram. Now I know it's not the memory that is causing the constant reboots because I swapped it out for another pair last night. I've also scanned the hard drive for errors and it has not found any. Anyways, whenever I boot the computer up, it scans the hardware normally and I"m able to get into the bios but when it starts to load windows, it gives me options to either start up in safe mode or start windows normally. After I choose either, it starts to try and load XP but then reboots itself. Before this started to happen, the HD led would blink and I would hear a constant beeping sound. I would then reset the cmos and it would start XP normally but after awhile and at random times, it would either freeze up on me or I would get Memory dumps or Kernal_stack_Inpage_error blue screens. I've already reformatted twice so it's not the software. Could it be the cpu? Motherboard? hard drive? Thanks for any possible help.
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Old Apr 11, 2005, 02:36 AM   #2
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Actually, those errors you've referred to are related to memory errors, more specifically paging requests. You can read up on it more HERE on Microsofts website. Pay attention to the area that describes "Resolving".

I have to agree with MS's suggestions btw. This error can come up with bad memory, bad hard drive (corrupt or dying), or worse, a bad video card or a bad motherboard. Things to take a look at:

- Take a look at your motherboard for bulging or leaking capacitors as well as any broken pins on the IDE connectors (both on the motherboard and hard drive).
- Make sure that your memory is properly seated, and that the timings are set to default in the bios (if you are overclocking your system reduce it to default speeds to troubleshoot).
- Run scandisk/chkdsk on your hard drive. Also, you mentioned that you reformated the drive, but did you delete the partition first before installing, or did you simply just format? It's best to delete the partition, then install in this case.
- If you have a spare video card try swapping it out for testing. As Windows loads it uses video memory to display your desktop. If the memory is bad then this could cause the error too.. but this is not as likely as the above situations.

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Old Apr 11, 2005, 03:54 AM   #3
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Yup, since you've swapped the memory out take a close look at those capacitors near and around the CPU and memory. The tops bulging or busted open is a sign of a problem. If they are distorted, get with Chaintech or the vendor you purchased from.

If no capacitor distortion, try swapping the power supply...
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Old Apr 11, 2005, 04:14 AM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #4
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Well it seems that the hard drive may have been corrupted because I'm able to reinstall windows just fine. Would overclocking my cpu corrupt my hard drive by any chance? It runs stock at 1.8 Ghz and I have it running at 2.3 Ghz. It's been stable for over 2-3 weeks until this problem started to occur. Maybe too much voltage applied? I know that the ram is stable that those speeds but maybe the voltage cause the HD to be corrupted?
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Old Apr 11, 2005, 04:22 AM   #5
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Oh my, please, always remove any overclock before shooting any problem. Didn't know you were OC'ing...

As for data corruption, there are several ways to overclock depending on the settings available to you from your bios. I'm not 100% positive, but I believe the PCI bus speed being raised can affect your hard drives. A lot of motherboards can overclock the memory or the CPU, or both, with no effect on the PCI bus. Overclocking the bus the hard drives use can affect their reliability with data.
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Old Apr 11, 2005, 04:24 AM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #6
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Well it's been working fine for a couple of weeks now so I did not think that the hard drive would become corrupted. Forgot to also mention that I have the Seagate 80 GB Barracuda 7200RPM SATA with NCQ Hard Drive. All the hardware that I've listed is about 3 weeks old now. Thanks for the replies.
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Old Apr 11, 2005, 04:32 AM   #7
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So does your computer run ok for awhile after you reformat each time after a failure?
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Old Apr 11, 2005, 05:52 AM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #8
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I'm guessing so. I just reformatted and I'm no longer overclocking so hopefully this problem does not happen again. I'll stress it out for a couple of hours and see what happens.
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Old Apr 11, 2005, 03:32 PM   #9
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Testing 1, 2, 3...

Hope it works out. If the problem doesn't come back again, then if you want, you can try to isolate which overclocking parameter is affecting your data by overclocking just the CPU, or just the memory, or just the PCI bus - one at a time - until you see your problem recur.

Funny thing - last night in bed I was thinking that it may not always be necessary to turn off overclocking. It could be used as a troubleshooting tool to stress components - but its use would no doubt be rare...
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Old Apr 12, 2005, 11:19 PM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #10
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Well the problem persists. I reformatted and reinstalled XP but it starts up again after a few days. Any suggestions? Btw, I am not overclocking.
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