Netscape 7.0 Preview Release 1 Released!

Zardon · May 22, 2002, 04:51 PM

http://www.warp2search.net/article.php?sid=4697

im certainly not trying this after my experiences with Netscape 6, what a crock, but im sure some of you love netscape.

digitalwanderer · May 22, 2002, 06:22 PM

...is still my biggest software disapointment. Every browser they've put out since 3.0 has been crap, but I still use 3.0 so I always give the latest one a try. I'll let ya know what I think of it once I get it downloaded & installed.

Thanks for the heads-up!

DallasStar · May 22, 2002, 09:12 PM

Use mozilla instead. Much better. (Mozilla and Opera are my two primary browsers).

Zardon · May 22, 2002, 09:22 PM

opera is good yes, I use it alot, but alot of the sites dont work as well as IE6, its unfortunate. good second browser though.

~~Crash Override~~ · May 23, 2002, 11:23 AM

I always try to keep a copy of most of the browsers on my machine if its possible just in case a site doesnt work I can see if its IE or just the site acting up

Yeti · May 23, 2002, 02:56 PM

Now, honestly, what in the hell is wrong with Netscape...? I've been using the 7pr1 since yesterday and was using the 6.1 beta until then. It runs fine... it runs smooth... it runs fast.

So whats the deal. Everything is configurable down to the last detail.... so i can't imagine why you wouldn't enjoy using it.

I'm not gonna force netscape on anyone any time soon.... but it seems strange to me that someone would reject it entirely.

DallasStar · May 23, 2002, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Yeti
Now, honestly, what in the hell is wrong with Netscape...? I've been using the 7pr1 since yesterday and was using the 6.1 beta until then. It runs fine... it runs smooth... it runs fast.

So whats the deal. Everything is configurable down to the last detail.... so i can't imagine why you wouldn't enjoy using it.

I'm not gonna force netscape on anyone any time soon.... but it seems strange to me that someone would reject it entirely.

It takes a fscking hour to load!!! The latest version of Opera, imo, is just TOO cool. Try that and you'll see what Netscape/Mozilla lacks.

Layden · May 23, 2002, 04:01 PM

I downloaded the new Netscape Preview and it certainly seems to be a bit faster than 6.1 was. I may switch to the finished version if it proves to be stable when it's released (I've had the preview version choke on a Flash enabled site).

I normally use Netscape 4.7 for browsing and especially for reading usenet (Outlook express is awful for doing this). I occasionally use IE5.5 for browsing though because Netscape 4.7 can't handle some sites.

Netscape 7 has good email/newsgroup stuff, but still doesn't like some websites.

Yeti · May 23, 2002, 04:10 PM

Heh... slow ... hehe... funny.

Netscape is definitely not slow. (or maybe my computer is fast... oh well... i don't care)

Here we go our separate ways.... I'll cya round

UberLord · May 23, 2002, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Yeti

Here we go our separate ways.... I'll cya round

Actually, netscape/mozilla is slower on computers with low memory. Why is this? Becuase Winblows loads IE wether you like it or not when the computer starts up.

Layden · May 23, 2002, 04:44 PM

Netsape 6 took AGES to load up on my machine. Although, I think it was the fault of the JAVA implementation. Seems to be fixed now. Not a memory problem for me, as have 256Mb (although maybe some people consider that low

)

UberLord · May 23, 2002, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Layden
Netsape 6 took AGES to load up on my machine. Although, I think it was the fault of the JAVA implementation

The java implementation does take a while to load - again this is a design descision by Sun (only their java works with netscape/mozilla) because IE -yup u guessed it - loads it up when Windows loads. Whereas with NetScape/Mozilla, java only loads when you load a web page with a java applet

digitalwanderer · May 23, 2002, 05:13 PM

Ok, I like the new Netscape; but that's only 'cause it's basically just Mozilla with a different face. After I installed it I was sort of surprised that it already had all my bookmarks and the mail set up right, then figured out that it must just use the same registry entries as Moz.

One thing I do NOT like about it is it's installer...it's a VERY pushy piece of software! I chose "advanced" install which was supposed to allow me to control it, but all it let me choose was where it's default directory would be. Then it went on it's merry way of filling my desktop with 7 new unrequested shortcuts, adding a few proggies to my start-up, and filling up my quick-launch bar with it's sh1t!

I don't like that, not one bit!

I'm un-installing it and going back to Mozilla. It's the same thing, but without all the baggage and pretense. (Not to mention all the bloody ads for AOL they throw at ya!)

Yeti · May 23, 2002, 05:38 PM

Unless you are installing that thing every day, i don't think you have a problem here. I went through the installer.. and it let me choose everything i needed too... I got rid of RP8 Winamp etc... It works fine.

Zardon · May 23, 2002, 05:42 PM

think ill just stick with IE6 and opera 6

as I said netscape 6 was the buggiest piece of software ive ever run... I heard they fixed it with NS6.1 but by that stage I had it with netscape.

its a shame Microsoft run the market now, I remember the days with navigator had the market and was better programmed, more streamlined and ran faster. its the reverse now.

well unless V7 has changed that and im not willing to try it out after my past experiences. IE and opera handle everything I throw at them and with all the speed I need.

Yeti · May 23, 2002, 05:44 PM

Yeah.. N7 seems very good so far. Not a single erro and faster than N6... try it if you have the time. (i know you are reluctant)

Me =

<---(N7 pusher)

Malus · May 23, 2002, 11:04 PM

Netscape = the future browser for AOL under Redhat (they did buy Redhat, right?)

Necrosis · May 23, 2002, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Malus
Netscape = the future browser for AOL under Redhat (they did buy Redhat, right?)

I'm running this preview on my work computer. Seems pretty good so far, and blows thes socks off 6. No AOL did not buy Redhat, and thank god for that!

Malus · May 23, 2002, 11:19 PM

Amen! I didn't really follow it, though I should have. Just as long as AOL stays out of Netscape and Linux, I'll be happy.

UberLord · May 23, 2002, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Malus
Netscape = the future browser for AOL under Redhat (they did buy Redhat, right?)

No, they have not bought RedHat. And it will be a sorry day if they do

UberLord · May 23, 2002, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Malus
Amen! I didn't really follow it, though I should have. Just as long as AOL stays out of Netscape and Linux, I'll be happy.

That'll be quite hard - AOL own NetScape

Malus · May 24, 2002, 12:15 AM

I mean the development of Netscape. Kind of like what everyone wants Creative to do with 3dLabs.

UberLord · May 24, 2002, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Malus
I mean the development of Netscape

So why do you see AIM integration with NetScape but not Mozilla?
AOL pay the NetScape developers.....

Necrosis · May 24, 2002, 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Malus
Amen! I didn't really follow it, though I should have. Just as long as AOL stays out of Netscape and Linux, I'll be happy.

Well they bought Netscape as you know and are messing with it but I think they actually might do some good with it. Yes, I said that about AOL. I still use AOL (okay stop laughing), but it's not my main ISP. I just haven't borrowed to cancel it, plus I beta test for them. The latest version of AOL with Gecko runs much faster than with IE, but of course there is still the plug in issues.

~~Crash Override~~ · May 24, 2002, 11:42 AM

right now Im typing this on NS7 PR1 and so far this thing is faster than IE and opera put together and I havent found a page it wont handle

Looks like some people need to toss out 3.0Gold and get on the 7Bandwagon

digitalwanderer · May 24, 2002, 02:15 PM

I will abandon Netscape 3.0 Gold when you delete it from my hard-drive, and you gotta go thru me first.

I like Mozilla though...it could get IE 5.5 off my system if all the plug-ins work.

Zardon · May 24, 2002, 03:42 PM

well ive been watching this thread with interest for a while and have decided against my better judgement to try installing netscape 7.

I choose the custom mode, took out all the additional crap they install by default, and I must admit initial impressions are quite high .. the browser seems quite responsive .. not at all like my last experiences with V6.... I still have nightmares about that browser.....

I ran adware as well just to make sure no additional spyware was installed

ill not make too much of a comment but instead just give it a good testing out over the weekend then report back with what ive found..

ill say this already, its a MAJOR improvement over V6. but then again that wouldnt be hard.

the question ill ask is this ... is this browser just too late to even attempt to regain market share, are they wasting their time ?? what do you all think?

Zardon · May 24, 2002, 04:06 PM

an interesting link for you all btw

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/thread.p...post=5662#5662

Yeti · May 24, 2002, 08:35 PM

Hey DW... give me your IP... .I'll remove NS3 gold from your comp... along with most of the other stuff on it... lol

Yeah... security pfft... I tell you what i do for securiity... I have a linux machine routing my internet connection... haven't run the tests yet... i'll tell ya in a few.(mins or hours dunno)....

May 22, 2002, 04:51 PM	#1
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 177	Netscape 7.0 Preview Release 1 Released! http://www.warp2search.net/article.php?sid=4697 im certainly not trying this after my experiences with Netscape 6, what a crock, but im sure some of you love netscape.

May 22, 2002, 06:22 PM	#2
digitalwanderer Colour Commentator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Highland, IN USA Posts: 5,620 Rep Power: 0	Netscape... ...is still my biggest software disapointment. Every browser they've put out since 3.0 has been crap, but I still use 3.0 so I always give the latest one a try. I'll let ya know what I think of it once I get it downloaded & installed. Thanks for the heads-up! __________________ WTF is up with the sigs?

May 22, 2002, 09:12 PM	#3
DallasStar Junior Join Date: May 2002 Location: Wave Existence Posts: 2,065 Rep Power: 0	Use mozilla instead. Much better. (Mozilla and Opera are my two primary browsers). __________________ "A picture of my existence... would show a useless wooden stake covered in snow... stuck loosely at a slant in the ground in a ploughed field on the edge of a vast open plain on a dark winter night." --- Franz Kafka

May 23, 2002, 02:56 PM	#6
Yeti DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 662 Rep Power: 0	Now, honestly, what in the hell is wrong with Netscape...? I've been using the 7pr1 since yesterday and was using the 6.1 beta until then. It runs fine... it runs smooth... it runs fast. So whats the deal. Everything is configurable down to the last detail.... so i can't imagine why you wouldn't enjoy using it. I'm not gonna force netscape on anyone any time soon.... but it seems strange to me that someone would reject it entirely. __________________ --Oh lord not again

May 23, 2002, 04:10 PM	#9
Yeti DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 662 Rep Power: 0	Heh... slow ... hehe... funny. Netscape is definitely not slow. (or maybe my computer is fast... oh well... i don't care) Here we go our separate ways.... I'll cya round __________________ --Oh lord not again

May 22, 2002, 09:22 PM	Thread Starter #4
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 177	opera is good yes, I use it alot, but alot of the sites dont work as well as IE6, its unfortunate. good second browser though.

May 23, 2002, 11:23 AM	#5
~~Crash Override~~ Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 2,448 Rep Power: 0	I always try to keep a copy of most of the browsers on my machine if its possible just in case a site doesnt work I can see if its IE or just the site acting up

May 23, 2002, 04:01 PM	#8
Layden DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Salisbury, England Posts: 53 Rep Power: 0	I downloaded the new Netscape Preview and it certainly seems to be a bit faster than 6.1 was. I may switch to the finished version if it proves to be stable when it's released (I've had the preview version choke on a Flash enabled site). I normally use Netscape 4.7 for browsing and especially for reading usenet (Outlook express is awful for doing this). I occasionally use IE5.5 for browsing though because Netscape 4.7 can't handle some sites. Netscape 7 has good email/newsgroup stuff, but still doesn't like some websites.

May 23, 2002, 04:44 PM	#11
Layden DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Salisbury, England Posts: 53 Rep Power: 0	Netsape 6 took AGES to load up on my machine. Although, I think it was the fault of the JAVA implementation. Seems to be fixed now. Not a memory problem for me, as have 256Mb (although maybe some people consider that low )

May 23, 2002, 05:13 PM	#13
digitalwanderer Colour Commentator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Highland, IN USA Posts: 5,620 Rep Power: 0	Grrrrrrrrrr! Ok, I like the new Netscape; but that's only 'cause it's basically just Mozilla with a different face. After I installed it I was sort of surprised that it already had all my bookmarks and the mail set up right, then figured out that it must just use the same registry entries as Moz. One thing I do NOT like about it is it's installer...it's a VERY pushy piece of software! I chose "advanced" install which was supposed to allow me to control it, but all it let me choose was where it's default directory would be. Then it went on it's merry way of filling my desktop with 7 new unrequested shortcuts, adding a few proggies to my start-up, and filling up my quick-launch bar with it's sh1t! I don't like that, not one bit! I'm un-installing it and going back to Mozilla. It's the same thing, but without all the baggage and pretense. (Not to mention all the bloody ads for AOL they throw at ya!) __________________ WTF is up with the sigs?

May 23, 2002, 05:38 PM	#14
Yeti DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 662 Rep Power: 0	Unless you are installing that thing every day, i don't think you have a problem here. I went through the installer.. and it let me choose everything i needed too... I got rid of RP8 Winamp etc... It works fine. __________________ --Oh lord not again

May 23, 2002, 05:42 PM	Thread Starter #15
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 177	think ill just stick with IE6 and opera 6 as I said netscape 6 was the buggiest piece of software ive ever run... I heard they fixed it with NS6.1 but by that stage I had it with netscape. its a shame Microsoft run the market now, I remember the days with navigator had the market and was better programmed, more streamlined and ran faster. its the reverse now. well unless V7 has changed that and im not willing to try it out after my past experiences. IE and opera handle everything I throw at them and with all the speed I need.

May 23, 2002, 05:44 PM	#16
Yeti DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 662 Rep Power: 0	Yeah.. N7 seems very good so far. Not a single erro and faster than N6... try it if you have the time. (i know you are reluctant) Me = <---(N7 pusher) __________________ --Oh lord not again

May 23, 2002, 11:04 PM	#17
Malus BSD SMASH! Join Date: May 2002 Location: A rabbit hole. . . Posts: 1,170 Rep Power: 0	Netscape = the future browser for AOL under Redhat (they did buy Redhat, right?) __________________ quad (FreeBSD/amd64 8-CURRENT): Intel Q6600 - Asus P5E-VM HDMI - 2x2 GB Kingston PC6400 DDR2 Ram - Seagate 320GB 7200RPM HD - 2xSeagate 1TB 7200RPM HD in RAID 1 via ZFS - Lite-On 20x DVD Multi Recorder - Coolermaster Centurion 5 router (FreeBSD/amd64 8-CURRENT): Intel E4500 - Intel D945GCNL - 2 GB PC6400 Mushkin Ram - Lite-On 48x24x48x16 - Seagate 320GB 7200RPM HD - Silverstone SST-SG02-F wanderer (FreeBSD/i386 7-CURRENT): Lenovo Thinkpad T61p mini (OS X 10.5): Intel Core 2 Duo @ 1.8Ghz, 4 GB Mushkin PC5400 Ram - Headroom MicroDAC Portable sound: Rockboxed iPod Video -> Westone UM2's Not-So-Portable Sound: Headroon MicroDAC -> Singlepower PPX3-SLAM -> Grado RS-1's or Beyerdynamic DT-880's Very-Not-Portable-Sound: Squeezebox v3 -> Denon AVR-1507 -> B&W 683's & Sunfire HRS-10

May 23, 2002, 11:19 PM	#19
Malus BSD SMASH! Join Date: May 2002 Location: A rabbit hole. . . Posts: 1,170 Rep Power: 0	Amen! I didn't really follow it, though I should have. Just as long as AOL stays out of Netscape and Linux, I'll be happy. __________________ quad (FreeBSD/amd64 8-CURRENT): Intel Q6600 - Asus P5E-VM HDMI - 2x2 GB Kingston PC6400 DDR2 Ram - Seagate 320GB 7200RPM HD - 2xSeagate 1TB 7200RPM HD in RAID 1 via ZFS - Lite-On 20x DVD Multi Recorder - Coolermaster Centurion 5 router (FreeBSD/amd64 8-CURRENT): Intel E4500 - Intel D945GCNL - 2 GB PC6400 Mushkin Ram - Lite-On 48x24x48x16 - Seagate 320GB 7200RPM HD - Silverstone SST-SG02-F wanderer (FreeBSD/i386 7-CURRENT): Lenovo Thinkpad T61p mini (OS X 10.5): Intel Core 2 Duo @ 1.8Ghz, 4 GB Mushkin PC5400 Ram - Headroom MicroDAC Portable sound: Rockboxed iPod Video -> Westone UM2's Not-So-Portable Sound: Headroon MicroDAC -> Singlepower PPX3-SLAM -> Grado RS-1's or Beyerdynamic DT-880's Very-Not-Portable-Sound: Squeezebox v3 -> Denon AVR-1507 -> B&W 683's & Sunfire HRS-10

May 24, 2002, 12:15 AM	#22
Malus BSD SMASH! Join Date: May 2002 Location: A rabbit hole. . . Posts: 1,170 Rep Power: 0	I mean the development of Netscape. Kind of like what everyone wants Creative to do with 3dLabs. __________________ quad (FreeBSD/amd64 8-CURRENT): Intel Q6600 - Asus P5E-VM HDMI - 2x2 GB Kingston PC6400 DDR2 Ram - Seagate 320GB 7200RPM HD - 2xSeagate 1TB 7200RPM HD in RAID 1 via ZFS - Lite-On 20x DVD Multi Recorder - Coolermaster Centurion 5 router (FreeBSD/amd64 8-CURRENT): Intel E4500 - Intel D945GCNL - 2 GB PC6400 Mushkin Ram - Lite-On 48x24x48x16 - Seagate 320GB 7200RPM HD - Silverstone SST-SG02-F wanderer (FreeBSD/i386 7-CURRENT): Lenovo Thinkpad T61p mini (OS X 10.5): Intel Core 2 Duo @ 1.8Ghz, 4 GB Mushkin PC5400 Ram - Headroom MicroDAC Portable sound: Rockboxed iPod Video -> Westone UM2's Not-So-Portable Sound: Headroon MicroDAC -> Singlepower PPX3-SLAM -> Grado RS-1's or Beyerdynamic DT-880's Very-Not-Portable-Sound: Squeezebox v3 -> Denon AVR-1507 -> B&W 683's & Sunfire HRS-10

May 24, 2002, 11:42 AM	#25
~~Crash Override~~ Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 2,448 Rep Power: 0	right now Im typing this on NS7 PR1 and so far this thing is faster than IE and opera put together and I havent found a page it wont handle Looks like some people need to toss out 3.0Gold and get on the 7Bandwagon

May 24, 2002, 02:15 PM	#26
digitalwanderer Colour Commentator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Highland, IN USA Posts: 5,620 Rep Power: 0	Harumph. I will abandon Netscape 3.0 Gold when you delete it from my hard-drive, and you gotta go thru me first. I like Mozilla though...it could get IE 5.5 off my system if all the plug-ins work. __________________ WTF is up with the sigs?

May 24, 2002, 03:42 PM	Thread Starter #27
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 177	well ive been watching this thread with interest for a while and have decided against my better judgement to try installing netscape 7. I choose the custom mode, took out all the additional crap they install by default, and I must admit initial impressions are quite high .. the browser seems quite responsive .. not at all like my last experiences with V6.... I still have nightmares about that browser..... I ran adware as well just to make sure no additional spyware was installed ill not make too much of a comment but instead just give it a good testing out over the weekend then report back with what ive found.. ill say this already, its a MAJOR improvement over V6. but then again that wouldnt be hard. the question ill ask is this ... is this browser just too late to even attempt to regain market share, are they wasting their time ?? what do you all think?

May 24, 2002, 04:06 PM	Thread Starter #28
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 177	an interesting link for you all btw http://www.hardwareheaven.com/thread.p...post=5662#5662

May 24, 2002, 08:35 PM	#29
Yeti DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 662 Rep Power: 0	Hey DW... give me your IP... .I'll remove NS3 gold from your comp... along with most of the other stuff on it... lol Yeah... security pfft... I tell you what i do for securiity... I have a linux machine routing my internet connection... haven't run the tests yet... i'll tell ya in a few.(mins or hours dunno).... __________________ --Oh lord not again