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Maxtor's new 8MB cache HDD
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Ohhhh now I like that, and at a damn good price too.
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My 60 gig ibm gets 27,917kbps in sandra with 2 mb cache and on regular ide
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Acoustic Managment is the biggest part of this. It helps keep the drive nearly silent. 24db while being used., and that is under a whisper. And to tell you the truth. ATA133 doesn't make a whole lot of sence. The IDE will never get saturated. ATA100 never gets used to its full extent. Also try to keep in mind that Sandra is not a true benchmark. It is synthetic. Run HDTach, and get your readings there. |
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I tried hd tach,it wont run in xp?And as far as acoustic management gos i leave it off cause with my ibms the only way i can tell their even running is by looking at the led.
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Yeah it only works in xp if you buy it.Im not paying 50 bucks to see how fast my hardrive is.
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24db that's pretty quite, I have 2 hds in my system a WD120g JB and a Seagate Barracuda IV 80gig. Both of these are super quite Harddrives.,, but I guess this new Maxtor just beats it by a couple of db.
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Puppy paws!
Any review that has puppy paws is a choice review in my book! Nice job most fuzzy one, now I'm tempted to pick up a new HD for me pink PC project. (Not that my 3 year old would get the new one...
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Also another thing that I have found. It is my southbridge that is the problem. The VIA southbridge on my motherboard is the 8233A... which has massive problems with running ATA133 at its given speed of 127MB/s Looks like the fastest I will be getting out of this drive is 68MB/s ![]() Oh well, just another reason to upgrade to the KT4! hehehe |
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On my system (specs in my signature...well, in the link in my signature) HDTach reports 46,332kbps with FAT32, and Sandra reports 47,122kbps with FAT32, drive also is filled with about 27gb of games and stuffs. That's with the 80gb WD800JB.
This is all under Windows XP. Just for comparison purposes. It is not audible though, at all, in my system, but my 40gb 2mb cache WD400BB does make noise. It only scores 27,454kbps in HDTach and 27,601kbps in Sandra 2002. Also about 20 or so gb of it filled, using FAT32. |
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Ok look at this smart ass: These are Sandra reference scores. Scsi U160 10k rpm 8mb cache (ntfs) 34080 kb/s score Or ATA 100 raid 0 (8mb cache) ntfs )score 42520 kb/s PLus your running the test on a loaded drive. Is this like your WOW score of 8540 on your vidcard that BTW i have and have a score of 10060 ?? trust me man your far away from a 4200 with that score. unless you mean the scores that nOObs post without tweaking. In other words ...GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT before you post !! |
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I want to see a pic of your benchmark.
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Well I have a Diamond Max Plus 9 80 gig with 2mb cache. I benched it after a clean install of Windows XP before installing all of my other programs (my motherboard limits me to ATA 100):
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Ok Reno look at this
This is from a review of renos board Look at his specs and look closely at his southbridge. Chipset (North) VIA P4X266: Support Pentium 4 System bus Support DDR 200 / 266 SDRAM interface (South) VIA VT8233 Built in high bandwidth 266MB/S 8-bit V-link Host controller Form Factor ATX Processor Intel Pentium 4 in the 478 pin package Expansion Slot Support external AGP V2.0 compliant VGA device Support 1X, 2X, 4X AGP data transfer 5 x PCI slots Onboard Audio VIA AC'97 2.1 compliant CODEC Memory 3 184pin DDR DIMM Slot On board IDE Controller 2 x UltraDMA/100 Bus Master IDE from ICH2 2 x UltraDMA/100 promise 265R to support RAID 0 (AV40R model only) 80-pin Cable Backward Compatible Legacy ATAPI Devices Back Panel 2 Serial Ports 1 Parallel Port (SPP, EPP, ECP) 1 PS/2 Keyboard Port 1 PS/2 Mouse Port 2 USB Ports 1x Game / MIDI Port 1x Line in, 1x Line out, 1x Mic Connectors 1 x ATX power connector 1 x 4 pin 12V ATX power connector 1 x 6 pin 5V / 3.3V ATX power connector 4 x Fan Power connectors (one for system chipset fan) 4 x UltraDMA/100 Bus Master IDE (AV40R model only) 1 x Floppy No further comments needed... |
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Interesting results...I'll mention the review on theDDRZone.com
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Lol, I like your Paw of Approval, WTWolf
![]() Hmm, fast drive, but why is the CPU util so high? Here's my 2 drives (in Win98) HDTach results: Code:
Primary Master: IBM 120GXP 80GB RandomAccessTime (ms) . . 12.7 Processor Utilization . . 3.5% ReadBurstSpeed (KB/s) . . 92900 Avg Read Speed (KB/s) . . 38079 Primary Slave: WD800BB (2MB cache) RandomAccessTime (ms) . . 13.7 Processor Utilization . . 7.1% ReadBurstSpeed (KB/s) . . 91344 Avg Read Speed (KB/s) . . 40563
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HI Vamp...
Ok the reason for his high Cpu usage and lower speeds is simple. He has a slower chipset. Via southbridge 8233 This alone slows his transfer down . Some others may think that this drive isnt that fast but .. Try to imagine what its gonna do on the newer 8235 (btw much faster). Also note that he did this test on the drive he was on and not some Secondary/slave drive. Hopefully Wwolf will upgrade soon and give us a better picture. Btw he did turn off the Acoustic Management and still couldnt hear anything ......
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I found this review on the 2mb buffer version of the Diamondmax Plus 9. Actually it's a comparison between the Maxtor and a Seagate ATA V. However, I'd be interested to know if an 80Gb Maxtor would show different results than the 60Gb model they tested, as the 80 gigger has higher platter density.
Anyway.. I ordered one of those 80 gig Maxtors and hopefully will be getting it sometime next week. I plan on running some tests on it as soon as I get it, just out of curiosity. And yeah, it's gonna be slave and FAT32, as my 40Gb Diamondmax Plus 60 is doing just fine as the master. If I get any interesting results, I might just post them here. Don't know if I'm up to a full review, 'cause I'll be working through the holidays. I might have time to do it next year ![]() (yeah I know I've got the disk in my signature even though it's not yet part of my rig. How stupid is that?? ![]() )
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No buddy im not a spy...at least not yet...
But i assumed you had a newer chipset from the nice speeds you show. Though out of curiosity i would like to see what specs you do have......mostly to help the review.
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Oh. I have ECS K7S5A mobo (SiS 735 chipset). CPU is AthlonXP 1800. um, RAM is 256MB pc2100 if it matters.
Hehe, now I don't have to watch my back at least not watch for you . . . ![]() EDIT: forgot to say nothing is overclocked, if that matters too
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Yeah and another weird thing is that i see ppl scoring better while in a Fat32 format while WWolf did his in NTFS.
Do you think this is a bug ?? I suggest you guys with these weird scores try both mentioned benchmarks so we can find some truth here. |
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Well, I don't really trust Sandra as a HD benchmark. But I can post my results if you were counting me as one of "you guys with these weird scores"
![]() How about PCMark2002? What do you guys think of the HD benchmark in that? And, do you mean FAT32 is faster than NTFS? Cool, yay Win98!!
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Sandra does mess up sometimes so the person with the strange high score could just that, showing incorrect testing results., I had some strange Sandra result before too,,
my cpu xp1800+ (1.6g) score so high in points that I'm guessing around a P4 15gig mhz , man, if only it was really that fast. this seem to happen when I use CPUZ and then check with Sandra . My HD benchmarks seem low too at aroudn 27000ish mostly but jumps to 30000ish and 23000ish sometimes.. I guess it could be the motherboard K7s5a |
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I did a total of 5 benchmarks, with both of these benchmark programs, I posted the one that was closest to the average. I scored as high as 28124, but that is the high end, not the average. Good luck to you guys out there that are benchmarking your drives. Remember... Always strive for your best! But, don't be a lamer
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