P4-3.2 Ee Strange Problem

may lee · Sep 13, 2005, 08:11 PM

I have an ASUS P4C800-E deluxe. I've been
using a P4 3.0 Northwood @ 20% AI Overclock (3.6ghz) with 1 gb Corsair TWINX-3200LLPT @ 2,3,2,6,8 for a year now and it's been rock solid and fast. I have been using the latest BIOS (1023) since it came out in June.
This morning I installed a P4 3.2 Extreme Edition (Gallatin) and when I booted it up it gave me the "New CPU installed, please enter setup to update your configuration" "press F1 to enter setup, F2 to restore BIOS defaults". I expected this and went into the BIOS, turned off the AI Overclock, set the RAM to SPD, and made sure nothing else was
likely to cause a problem.
I rebooted the computer and got the same message. I did this 3 times. The 4th time, I pressed F2 to set default BIOS values and it booted right up. But everytime I reboot, I get the same message again. I hit F2 and it boots OK, even though I had F2'd the BIOS Defaults the last
time I rebooted. So I powered off the system, unplugged the power supply, took out the CMOS battery and changed the jumper for about a minute to completely clear out the CMOS, drain the capacitors, etc. Then I put the jumper
back, put in a new CMOS battery, plugged in the power supply and fired it up.
Same thing!!! At the very least I would like to disable the Promise RAID, disable the AC97 sound, POST Speech
reporter, boot-screen logo, etc. I would also like to play with the memory timings and try the AI Overclock at 10%, then 20%,etc. I spoke to the people at ASUS, the top tech said he'd never heard of this and that with the 1023 BIOS (or even an earlier one) I should have no problems with this CPU/Mobo combination, which is what I thought too.
Has anyone else here experienced this kind of thing? Or have any ideas as to what might be going on?

Any help/feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

INSTG8R · Sep 13, 2005, 08:24 PM

Seems odd to me I dont have any input on it other than Im a bit jealous you could get your hands on a S478 P4EE the only one I could find here in Norway was the equivalent of about $1200 US for that model and if it didnt work I would be VERY upset

niceguyrichy · Sep 13, 2005, 08:28 PM

done a clean install yet??

may lee · Sep 13, 2005, 08:29 PM

Thanks for your reply INSTG8R. I got the P4-3.2 EE OEM processor on ebay for about $360. I think it is quite affordable.

may lee · Sep 13, 2005, 08:38 PM

Thanks, niceguyrichy,

I have done the clean install already. Anything else you can think of?

niceguyrichy · Sep 13, 2005, 08:54 PM

mmm...

you wouldn't be this person here would you:-

http://www.howtofixcomputers.com/bb/sutra629276.html

may lee · Sep 13, 2005, 08:59 PM

No, niceguyrichy, I am not the same person but I know that person and I am trying to help him. Thanks for looking around for me anyway.

niceguyrichy · Sep 13, 2005, 09:11 PM

You got the latest BIOS?

Early boards had problems with the vcore with oc'd cpu's.

Logla · Sep 13, 2005, 09:18 PM

Have you tried putting the original cpu back in to see what it does?
If it starts happening with the Northwood then you can confirm the board is buggered.

If not, check all the pins on the EE and make sure that all the pins are perfectly straight and don't have any thermal interface material on them whatsoever. this is kids stuff of course and I would have expected you've already checked but it cant hurt to try again.

my IC7Max3 does the same thing from time to time, sometimes when I overclock and sometimes not.

Personally I would reckon its the board that has a problem.

swimtech · Sep 13, 2005, 09:25 PM

Hate to say this, but since it gives the error right at bootup and stops at the bios screen, you almost certainly have a hardware error - and since you reset the CMOS and flashed it at different times. Looks like a flaky CPU, especially if you put your old hyperthreaded CPU back in and it runs solid.

Maybe the guy you bought it from at Ebay will trade another for you...

Blazer · Sep 20, 2005, 10:56 PM

I am having the same issues with my P4P800E Deluxe, and it just started happening, but because the motherboard is only 1 month old, I took it back to where I purchased it from today, and I should be getting a replacement in about 1 week. if you find out any more about this, please tell me. On the asus site, there were other people with the same problems. I think that it is a hardware problem (motherboard).

HawgsHead · Sep 21, 2005, 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by may lee

I have an ASUS P4C800-E deluxe. I've been
using a P4 3.0 Northwood @ 20% AI Overclock (3.6ghz) with 1 gb Corsair TWINX-3200LLPT @ 2,3,2,6,8 for a year now and it's been rock solid and fast. I have been using the latest BIOS (1023) since it came out in June.
This morning I installed a P4 3.2 Extreme Edition (Gallatin) and when I booted it up it gave me the "New CPU installed, please enter setup to update your configuration" "press F1 to enter setup, F2 to restore BIOS defaults". I expected this and went into the BIOS, turned off the AI Overclock, set the RAM to SPD, and made sure nothing else was
likely to cause a problem.
I rebooted the computer and got the same message. I did this 3 times. The 4th time, I pressed F2 to set default BIOS values and it booted right up. But everytime I reboot, I get the same message again. I hit F2 and it boots OK, even though I had F2'd the BIOS Defaults the last
time I rebooted. So I powered off the system, unplugged the power supply, took out the CMOS battery and changed the jumper for about a minute to completely clear out the CMOS, drain the capacitors, etc. Then I put the jumper
back, put in a new CMOS battery, plugged in the power supply and fired it up.
Same thing!!! At the very least I would like to disable the Promise RAID, disable the AC97 sound, POST Speech
reporter, boot-screen logo, etc. I would also like to play with the memory timings and try the AI Overclock at 10%, then 20%,etc. I spoke to the people at ASUS, the top tech said he'd never heard of this and that with the 1023 BIOS (or even an earlier one) I should have no problems with this CPU/Mobo combination, which is what I thought too.
Has anyone else here experienced this kind of thing? Or have any ideas as to what might be going on?

Any help/feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

I had almost the very same rig you have 18 months ago and pretty much the same problem.A clean install fixed me right up.

Sep 13, 2005, 08:11 PM	#1
may lee DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	P4-3.2 Ee Strange Problem I have an ASUS P4C800-E deluxe. I've been using a P4 3.0 Northwood @ 20% AI Overclock (3.6ghz) with 1 gb Corsair TWINX-3200LLPT @ 2,3,2,6,8 for a year now and it's been rock solid and fast. I have been using the latest BIOS (1023) since it came out in June. This morning I installed a P4 3.2 Extreme Edition (Gallatin) and when I booted it up it gave me the "New CPU installed, please enter setup to update your configuration" "press F1 to enter setup, F2 to restore BIOS defaults". I expected this and went into the BIOS, turned off the AI Overclock, set the RAM to SPD, and made sure nothing else was likely to cause a problem. I rebooted the computer and got the same message. I did this 3 times. The 4th time, I pressed F2 to set default BIOS values and it booted right up. But everytime I reboot, I get the same message again. I hit F2 and it boots OK, even though I had F2'd the BIOS Defaults the last time I rebooted. So I powered off the system, unplugged the power supply, took out the CMOS battery and changed the jumper for about a minute to completely clear out the CMOS, drain the capacitors, etc. Then I put the jumper back, put in a new CMOS battery, plugged in the power supply and fired it up. Same thing!!! At the very least I would like to disable the Promise RAID, disable the AC97 sound, POST Speech reporter, boot-screen logo, etc. I would also like to play with the memory timings and try the AI Overclock at 10%, then 20%,etc. I spoke to the people at ASUS, the top tech said he'd never heard of this and that with the 1023 BIOS (or even an earlier one) I should have no problems with this CPU/Mobo combination, which is what I thought too. Has anyone else here experienced this kind of thing? Or have any ideas as to what might be going on? Any help/feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Sep 13, 2005, 08:24 PM	#2
INSTG8R DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canadian lost in Norway Posts: 527 Rep Power: 0	Seems odd to me I dont have any input on it other than Im a bit jealous you could get your hands on a S478 P4EE the only one I could find here in Norway was the equivalent of about $1200 US for that model and if it didnt work I would be VERY upset __________________ Sys. Specs. Intel E6600@3.2\|Abit IP35 Pro\|2x1024 Crucial Ballistix PC8500 \|Sapphire HD4870 512\|Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 500G SATAII 16MB w/PRT\|SB X-Fi Fatality\|TT Tough Power 1200W\|TT Kandalf L.C.S.\|Samsung 204B 20" 5ms LCD\|Logitech G25\|Logitech G5\|Logitech G15\|Saitek X-52+Pro Rudder Pedals\|TrackIR w/Trackclip Pro 3DMark06

Sep 13, 2005, 09:25 PM	#10
swimtech HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,040 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	Hate to say this, but since it gives the error right at bootup and stops at the bios screen, you almost certainly have a hardware error - and since you reset the CMOS and flashed it at different times. Looks like a flaky CPU, especially if you put your old hyperthreaded CPU back in and it runs solid. Maybe the guy you bought it from at Ebay will trade another for you... __________________ It's not so much getting your way that matters or not - what matters is how you go about getting it.

Sep 20, 2005, 10:56 PM	#11
Blazer Tweeker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kitchener Posts: 612 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I am having the same issues with my P4P800E Deluxe, and it just started happening, but because the motherboard is only 1 month old, I took it back to where I purchased it from today, and I should be getting a replacement in about 1 week. if you find out any more about this, please tell me. On the asus site, there were other people with the same problems. I think that it is a hardware problem (motherboard). __________________

Sep 13, 2005, 08:29 PM	Thread Starter #4
may lee DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	Thanks for your reply INSTG8R. I got the P4-3.2 EE OEM processor on ebay for about $360. I think it is quite affordable.

Sep 13, 2005, 08:38 PM	Thread Starter #5
may lee DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	Thanks, niceguyrichy, I have done the clean install already. Anything else you can think of?

Sep 13, 2005, 08:59 PM	Thread Starter #7
may lee DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	No, niceguyrichy, I am not the same person but I know that person and I am trying to help him. Thanks for looking around for me anyway.

Sep 13, 2005, 09:18 PM	#9
Logla HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,311 Rep Power: 0	Have you tried putting the original cpu back in to see what it does? If it starts happening with the Northwood then you can confirm the board is buggered. If not, check all the pins on the EE and make sure that all the pins are perfectly straight and don't have any thermal interface material on them whatsoever. this is kids stuff of course and I would have expected you've already checked but it cant hurt to try again. my IC7Max3 does the same thing from time to time, sometimes when I overclock and sometimes not. Personally I would reckon its the board that has a problem.