4ms Gray To Gray - Marketing Trick?

leetphoenix · Sep 18, 2005, 11:21 AM

Hi all,
Recently I have been looking at LCD screens and I have gotten down to the Samsung 930BF, my only problem is on the webpage is that it says "4ms (Gray-to-Gray)" Now I was wondering if this is a clever marketing trick to fool people like me into buying it only to discover the colour responce rate of the LCD is high. Or am I way off.
Samsung 930BF site http://www.samsung.com/au/products/m.../tft/930bf.asp

Thanks in advance!

PangingJr · Sep 18, 2005, 11:36 AM

i have that monitor, but i have no idea about the 4ms, but i think i saw the Gray-to-Gray all the time. not even sure what it was, but the screen goes from gray color or sttarting from gray for seconds when changing input. go to the store and have a look at it before you buy.

PangingJr · Sep 18, 2005, 11:52 AM

don't believe that i just told you, i have no idea about technical datas on any monitor. i just don't care about them till salesperson tried to have me buy the other monitor that i did not like when saw them. so we talked about the data. all i knew was i need some new monitors. lol. wait for people who can give you data and its full details about them.

mkk · Sep 18, 2005, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by leetphoenix

Now I was wondering if this is a clever marketing trick to fool people like me into buying it only to discover the colour responce rate of the LCD is high.

They all lie more or less and a given LCD marked as 4ms need not be much faster than another marked as 16ms. Best look for reviews that makes direct comparisons between screens, like this Samsung 4ms and for instance a Viewsonic 4ms. Try finding one in some store to look at first hand too, especially if you feel that LCD's slowness is a bother like I do myself. Blackness, contrast and perhaps most importantly the pixel fault warranty are other factors to think of.

PangingJr · Sep 18, 2005, 03:33 PM

LCDs for today models are not slow any more IMO. or may be i haven't noticed it, nor it's slower than CRTs that much in game.
but i know there are so many discontinued models with older spec that still in resale stores, these are slow.

swimtech · Sep 18, 2005, 05:49 PM

The 4ms gray to gray time is supposed to be a difficult transition for some types of LCD displays - but manufacturers can quote this time to draw you in to purchasing a unit that doesn't have deep color bit depth (the higher the better for that spec).

Rather than repost, here is a link to a post here that has links to still other posts within this forum from months gone by that contains the best information on LCD displays we've spoken about. Pay particular attention to Tipstaff's posts - he's got hands on information on some units and an excellent understanding of the technical aspects of LCD technology in those posts.

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/hardware-discussion-support/79650-lcd-want-buy-best.html

You can also search the forum here yourself using the search function at the top of the page for more - LCD monitor would be good keywords...

Hope this helps!

Sep 18, 2005, 11:21 AM	#1
leetphoenix DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 31 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	4ms Gray To Gray - Marketing Trick? Hi all, Recently I have been looking at LCD screens and I have gotten down to the Samsung 930BF, my only problem is on the webpage is that it says "4ms (Gray-to-Gray)" Now I was wondering if this is a clever marketing trick to fool people like me into buying it only to discover the colour responce rate of the LCD is high. Or am I way off. Samsung 930BF site http://www.samsung.com/au/products/m.../tft/930bf.asp Thanks in advance! Last edited by leetphoenix; Sep 18, 2005 at 11:29 AM.

Sep 18, 2005, 05:49 PM	#6
swimtech HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,040 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	The 4ms gray to gray time is supposed to be a difficult transition for some types of LCD displays - but manufacturers can quote this time to draw you in to purchasing a unit that doesn't have deep color bit depth (the higher the better for that spec). Rather than repost, here is a link to a post here that has links to still other posts within this forum from months gone by that contains the best information on LCD displays we've spoken about. Pay particular attention to Tipstaff's posts - he's got hands on information on some units and an excellent understanding of the technical aspects of LCD technology in those posts. http://www.hardwareheaven.com/hardware-discussion-support/79650-lcd-want-buy-best.html You can also search the forum here yourself using the search function at the top of the page for more - LCD monitor would be good keywords... Hope this helps! __________________ It's not so much getting your way that matters or not - what matters is how you go about getting it.

Sep 18, 2005, 11:36 AM	#2
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	i have that monitor, but i have no idea about the 4ms, but i think i saw the Gray-to-Gray all the time. not even sure what it was, but the screen goes from gray color or sttarting from gray for seconds when changing input. go to the store and have a look at it before you buy.

Sep 18, 2005, 11:52 AM	#3
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	don't believe that i just told you, i have no idea about technical datas on any monitor. i just don't care about them till salesperson tried to have me buy the other monitor that i did not like when saw them. so we talked about the data. all i knew was i need some new monitors. lol. wait for people who can give you data and its full details about them.

Sep 18, 2005, 03:33 PM	#5
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	LCDs for today models are not slow any more IMO. or may be i haven't noticed it, nor it's slower than CRTs that much in game. but i know there are so many discontinued models with older spec that still in resale stores, these are slow.