I think I just KILLED my computer....need help (as usual)

Kemal · Dec 29, 2002, 04:37 AM

So, today, glorious day, I finally get my 9700pro. Works like a dream (see my post on ati benchmark forum) I turn off the computer and head out to see Gangs Of New York (great movie, go see it) Come home 3 hours later, turn on the computer. After teh XP bootup screen, strange colors flash across the screen. It then goes right to the "Welcome" screen. From there it begins SPEWING out "Delayed Write Function" errors. Saying how it could not write to nearly every folder on the computer due to it being lost or misplaced, including the roots of both my drives. (C:\ and D:\) Im totally going insane over here. Im on the downstairs crap computer right now. Any ideas greatly appreciated.

JavaFox · Dec 29, 2002, 04:45 AM

Did you install any registry tweaks, or nonstandard ATi drivers?

Kemal · Dec 29, 2002, 04:47 AM

I am using DX9 Cat 3.0 and Rage 3D Tweak.

Necrosis · Dec 29, 2002, 04:55 AM

This is a lot to ask but what software do you have installed on your computer? List anything that would have to do with files, like Norton, and/or any system OS type software. It sounds like to me it's something messed up with Window's File Protection.

Kemal · Dec 29, 2002, 04:59 AM

I have Norton Sys Works 2k3 installed... Other system software umm im trying to think...i have RegEdit installed... im not sure, but i found this on a forum via a google search, someone getting the same error when they tried to do debug something in side of windows-

Data that a filesystem previously wrote to cache is now being committed
to physical media. If the write IRP to the disk driver fails repeatedly,
this dialog is displayed. This leads to file and/or filesystem
corruption.

Ultimately, the disk driver has to satisfy its I/O IRPs by sending SRBs
to the SCSI port driver. So, your driver is likely failing SRBs for
SCSI write commands. If there is a true hardware error, there is nothing
you can do; but consider the possibility that your driver is faulty.

Failure to complete an SRB can lead to behavior like this as well: after
the SRB timeout period (specified by the disk class driver) elapses,
SCSIPORT will return it to the class driver as failed.

As to what THAT means, i know not. Im going nuts here... -sob-...should i try and reinstall windows? or put my 8500 back in?

JCLW · Dec 29, 2002, 05:03 AM

Is your PCI bus overclocked?
Can your drive be read from another computer?

- JW

Kemal · Dec 29, 2002, 05:04 AM

No, nothing is overclocked, in fact my c[pu is underclocked since i dont have a suitable fan. (note: i just grabbed a giant room fan and stuck it right upto the computer with teh case off to keep it cool in case that was the problem, cpu is much cooler now still have errors)

Falstaff · Dec 29, 2002, 05:05 AM

Hey bro,
Is there anything else on besides Rage 3d? I have had to uninstall rage3d and reinstall after I installed new drivers with the exception of any of the Omega drivers, Did you force your refresh rate above what you would consider normal? need more information, I have never had a real problem with an ATI card unless I did something and missed a step...The bios is a place I sure would check as well, use omegas template for setting the recommended settings in the bios of your motherboard...

Kemal · Dec 29, 2002, 05:07 AM

Nope, i did a super clean install of everything using the guide in the driver forum. i did not change the refresh above 60hz or anything. Im going to check omegas template now, thanks. Also alot of forums im reading state that the error is due to a problem in a home/business network, which i am running a h ome network via a linksys router. However all of thsoe probles occour from inside windows, which i cannot seem to reach...

Kemal · Dec 29, 2002, 05:32 AM

ok, frick. now teres nutin i know what to do. i tried to reinstall windows and setup told me it oculd not find any previous installation of windows on my computer, so it wont let me reinstall. ( i have teh upgrade version) -sigh- i dont even know what the heck i did to it.

Kemal · Dec 29, 2002, 05:56 AM

W00T!
I FIXED IT!
I had my bios do a reset all settings to default. Changed a few things (set agp graphics card as default for example) bootup, windows checked both drives for consistancy, ans booted right up. i -think- the problem may have been that one thing i noticed in bios
"use plug and play OS" was disabled. i turned it on after loading setup defaults. ok im off to tinker with the bios to get things back to normal (currently my agp arperture size is 32mb for example) thanks for all your suggestions and help. i love you guys

JCLW · Dec 29, 2002, 05:57 AM

I'm glad you got it sorted

- JW

Kemal · Dec 29, 2002, 06:08 AM

Not sorted no more. Changed a few thigns back to the way they were in bios and problem came right back. The thingsi changed were- UW>USWC mode, AGP size from 32>256, and AGP Fast Write to On. Ive got it narrowed down to the AGP Arperture size. Going to see how high i can get it without having errors. Ill post my findings.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Dec 29, 2002, 07:24 AM

lamo

DriveEuro · Dec 29, 2002, 08:27 AM

Dork........only you could mess up your own comp and not know how to fix it....jk

JavaFox · Dec 29, 2002, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kemal
ok, frick. now teres nutin i know what to do. i tried to reinstall windows and setup told me it oculd not find any previous installation of windows on my computer, so it wont let me reinstall. ( i have teh upgrade version) -sigh- i dont even know what the heck i did to it.

For future reference:

It is a commonly held misconception that Upgrade CDs somehow lack something that is present on the full versions of the OS, and that the only way to install using an Upgrade CD is to have a previous OS already installed on the drive. Both are false. In reality, the only difference between an Upgrade CD and a Full Version CD is the fact that the Upgrade CD demands that you prove you own a previous version of the OS. And you can do this even if your HDD has been wiped clean. Simply by inserting, say, a Win98 CD is proof enough.

Hog54 · Dec 29, 2002, 02:46 PM

Get rid of norton!the only time i ever had system crashes and any kind of problems on my computer is when i had norton installed.i took out norton and everything went away.

I dont care what anybody tells you but the biggest bunch of bull is antivirus software.I dont run any and have never gotten a virus.in fact i never got a virus until i installed norton,then i got 7 of them a day!A good antivirus app is your brain.DONT OPEN EMAILS THAT YOU DONT KNOW WHO THEY ARE and youll never have a problem.

Chaos · Dec 29, 2002, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hog54

I dont care what anybody tells you but the biggest bunch of bull is antivirus software.I dont run any and have never gotten a virus.in fact i never got a virus until i installed norton,then i got 7 of them a day!A good antivirus app is your brain.DONT OPEN EMAILS THAT YOU DONT KNOW WHO THEY ARE and youll never have a problem. [/B]

Don't take this advice to heart, Hog will be back here wimpering about damm virus's once he get's infected. I do agree with ( DONT OPEN EMAILS THAT YOU DONT KNOW WHO THEY ARE ) that part of his statment but I "DO" recommend using anti-virus software.

Kemal · Dec 29, 2002, 05:03 PM

I dont even know exactly how it happened. I guess my 9700pro doesnt like 256 arperture size.

Kemal · Dec 29, 2002, 05:48 PM

Confirmed. With my 9700pro windows will only boot up w/o errors if I use 32mb AGP Arperature size. Go figure...Oh, and my WinME and Win98 cds are at my other house 2 hours away or else i would have used them =/

reno · Dec 29, 2002, 06:54 PM

It's not your card, you should run a 128MB arpeture, you must have 256MB of RAM in your computer. US/UWSC mode switching has caused many problems with ATI's. change it to default AGAIN, then DO NOT CHANGE THIS SETTING.

That SHOULD work, I don't have an ATI, but I know one of those modes does not hardly work with ATI cards, or Nvidia cards for that matter.

Kemal · Dec 29, 2002, 07:07 PM

-shrugs- ok, ill mess with it some more. But the -only- time ive gotten it to boot up is with 32mb setting.

Kemal · Dec 29, 2002, 07:16 PM

Your my god. It works now, loaded defaults and did not change that setting. Ive got 256mb running now. Hopefull next time i reboot it wont happen again.

reno · Jan 2, 2003, 02:53 AM

glad to see it worked

Kemal · Jan 2, 2003, 04:04 AM

Well the next time i booted i got into windows and was told that i had lost all texture acceleration. Next boot got me the same errors when trying to get into windows. I got a new power supply and a new cpu fan, reinstalled the 9700, everything is working 200% better then before. I dont think i had enough power for my 9700. Thanks for all your help guys.

Dec 29, 2002, 04:37 AM	#1
Kemal DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 166 Rep Power: 0	I think I just KILLED my computer....need help (as usual) So, today, glorious day, I finally get my 9700pro. Works like a dream (see my post on ati benchmark forum) I turn off the computer and head out to see Gangs Of New York (great movie, go see it) Come home 3 hours later, turn on the computer. After teh XP bootup screen, strange colors flash across the screen. It then goes right to the "Welcome" screen. From there it begins SPEWING out "Delayed Write Function" errors. Saying how it could not write to nearly every folder on the computer due to it being lost or misplaced, including the roots of both my drives. (C:\ and D:\) Im totally going insane over here. Im on the downstairs crap computer right now. Any ideas greatly appreciated.

Dec 29, 2002, 04:47 AM	Thread Starter #3
Kemal DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 166 Rep Power: 0	I am using DX9 Cat 3.0 and Rage 3D Tweak. __________________ ASUS A7N8X Rev 2.0 AMD Athlon XP 3000+ 1gb PC3200 DDR (512mb PC3200x2) + 256mb Radeon X800 Pro Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Windows XP SP 2

Dec 29, 2002, 05:04 AM	Thread Starter #7
Kemal DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 166 Rep Power: 0	No, nothing is overclocked, in fact my c[pu is underclocked since i dont have a suitable fan. (note: i just grabbed a giant room fan and stuck it right upto the computer with teh case off to keep it cool in case that was the problem, cpu is much cooler now still have errors) __________________ ASUS A7N8X Rev 2.0 AMD Athlon XP 3000+ 1gb PC3200 DDR (512mb PC3200x2) + 256mb Radeon X800 Pro Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Windows XP SP 2

Dec 29, 2002, 05:05 AM	#8
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	hey kemal Hey bro, Is there anything else on besides Rage 3d? I have had to uninstall rage3d and reinstall after I installed new drivers with the exception of any of the Omega drivers, Did you force your refresh rate above what you would consider normal? need more information, I have never had a real problem with an ATI card unless I did something and missed a step...The bios is a place I sure would check as well, use omegas template for setting the recommended settings in the bios of your motherboard...

Dec 29, 2002, 05:07 AM	Thread Starter #9
Kemal DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 166 Rep Power: 0	Nope, i did a super clean install of everything using the guide in the driver forum. i did not change the refresh above 60hz or anything. Im going to check omegas template now, thanks. Also alot of forums im reading state that the error is due to a problem in a home/business network, which i am running a h ome network via a linksys router. However all of thsoe probles occour from inside windows, which i cannot seem to reach... __________________ ASUS A7N8X Rev 2.0 AMD Athlon XP 3000+ 1gb PC3200 DDR (512mb PC3200x2) + 256mb Radeon X800 Pro Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Windows XP SP 2

Dec 29, 2002, 04:45 AM	#2
JavaFox E Pluribus Unum Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,203 Rep Power: 0	Did you install any registry tweaks, or nonstandard ATi drivers?

Dec 29, 2002, 04:55 AM	#4
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	This is a lot to ask but what software do you have installed on your computer? List anything that would have to do with files, like Norton, and/or any system OS type software. It sounds like to me it's something messed up with Window's File Protection.

Dec 29, 2002, 04:59 AM	Thread Starter #5
Kemal DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 166 Rep Power: 0	I have Norton Sys Works 2k3 installed... Other system software umm im trying to think...i have RegEdit installed... im not sure, but i found this on a forum via a google search, someone getting the same error when they tried to do debug something in side of windows- Data that a filesystem previously wrote to cache is now being committed to physical media. If the write IRP to the disk driver fails repeatedly, this dialog is displayed. This leads to file and/or filesystem corruption. Ultimately, the disk driver has to satisfy its I/O IRPs by sending SRBs to the SCSI port driver. So, your driver is likely failing SRBs for SCSI write commands. If there is a true hardware error, there is nothing you can do; but consider the possibility that your driver is faulty. Failure to complete an SRB can lead to behavior like this as well: after the SRB timeout period (specified by the disk class driver) elapses, SCSIPORT will return it to the class driver as failed. As to what THAT means, i know not. Im going nuts here... -sob-...should i try and reinstall windows? or put my 8500 back in?

Dec 29, 2002, 05:03 AM	#6
JCLW Long Live The P6! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Great White North Posts: 119 Rep Power: 0	Is your PCI bus overclocked? Can your drive be read from another computer? - JW

Dec 29, 2002, 05:32 AM	Thread Starter #10
Kemal DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 166 Rep Power: 0	ok, frick. now teres nutin i know what to do. i tried to reinstall windows and setup told me it oculd not find any previous installation of windows on my computer, so it wont let me reinstall. ( i have teh upgrade version) -sigh- i dont even know what the heck i did to it. __________________ ASUS A7N8X Rev 2.0 AMD Athlon XP 3000+ 1gb PC3200 DDR (512mb PC3200x2) + 256mb Radeon X800 Pro Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Windows XP SP 2

Dec 29, 2002, 05:56 AM	Thread Starter #11
Kemal DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 166 Rep Power: 0	W00T! I FIXED IT! I had my bios do a reset all settings to default. Changed a few things (set agp graphics card as default for example) bootup, windows checked both drives for consistancy, ans booted right up. i -think- the problem may have been that one thing i noticed in bios "use plug and play OS" was disabled. i turned it on after loading setup defaults. ok im off to tinker with the bios to get things back to normal (currently my agp arperture size is 32mb for example) thanks for all your suggestions and help. i love you guys

Dec 29, 2002, 05:57 AM	#12
JCLW Long Live The P6! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Great White North Posts: 119 Rep Power: 0	I'm glad you got it sorted - JW

Dec 29, 2002, 06:08 AM	Thread Starter #13
Kemal DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 166 Rep Power: 0	Not sorted no more. Changed a few thigns back to the way they were in bios and problem came right back. The thingsi changed were- UW>USWC mode, AGP size from 32>256, and AGP Fast Write to On. Ive got it narrowed down to the AGP Arperture size. Going to see how high i can get it without having errors. Ill post my findings. __________________ ASUS A7N8X Rev 2.0 AMD Athlon XP 3000+ 1gb PC3200 DDR (512mb PC3200x2) + 256mb Radeon X800 Pro Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Windows XP SP 2

Dec 29, 2002, 07:24 AM	#14
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Dec 29, 2002, 02:46 PM	#17
Hog54 HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2002 Location: Boston Posts: 164 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Get rid of norton!the only time i ever had system crashes and any kind of problems on my computer is when i had norton installed.i took out norton and everything went away. I dont care what anybody tells you but the biggest bunch of bull is antivirus software.I dont run any and have never gotten a virus.in fact i never got a virus until i installed norton,then i got 7 of them a day!A good antivirus app is your brain.DONT OPEN EMAILS THAT YOU DONT KNOW WHO THEY ARE and youll never have a problem. __________________ AMD PHENOM II 965 BE ASUS M3N72-D 4 GIGs GSKILL PC-8500 EVGA GTX460 SC 1GB WINDOWS 7 X64 Ultimate Last edited by Hog54; Dec 29, 2002 at 02:52 PM.

Dec 29, 2002, 05:03 PM	Thread Starter #19
Kemal DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 166 Rep Power: 0	I dont even know exactly how it happened. I guess my 9700pro doesnt like 256 arperture size. __________________ ASUS A7N8X Rev 2.0 AMD Athlon XP 3000+ 1gb PC3200 DDR (512mb PC3200x2) + 256mb Radeon X800 Pro Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Windows XP SP 2

Dec 29, 2002, 05:48 PM	Thread Starter #20
Kemal DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 166 Rep Power: 0	Confirmed. With my 9700pro windows will only boot up w/o errors if I use 32mb AGP Arperature size. Go figure...Oh, and my WinME and Win98 cds are at my other house 2 hours away or else i would have used them =/ __________________ ASUS A7N8X Rev 2.0 AMD Athlon XP 3000+ 1gb PC3200 DDR (512mb PC3200x2) + 256mb Radeon X800 Pro Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Windows XP SP 2

Dec 29, 2002, 06:54 PM	#21
reno Painlord of Ichor Join Date: May 2002 Location: bloinkin! Posts: 1,610 Rep Power: 0	fdg It's not your card, you should run a 128MB arpeture, you must have 256MB of RAM in your computer. US/UWSC mode switching has caused many problems with ATI's. change it to default AGAIN, then DO NOT CHANGE THIS SETTING. That SHOULD work, I don't have an ATI, but I know one of those modes does not hardly work with ATI cards, or Nvidia cards for that matter.

Dec 29, 2002, 07:07 PM	Thread Starter #22
Kemal DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 166 Rep Power: 0	-shrugs- ok, ill mess with it some more. But the -only- time ive gotten it to boot up is with 32mb setting. __________________ ASUS A7N8X Rev 2.0 AMD Athlon XP 3000+ 1gb PC3200 DDR (512mb PC3200x2) + 256mb Radeon X800 Pro Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Windows XP SP 2

Dec 29, 2002, 07:16 PM	Thread Starter #23
Kemal DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 166 Rep Power: 0	Your my god. It works now, loaded defaults and did not change that setting. Ive got 256mb running now. Hopefull next time i reboot it wont happen again. __________________ ASUS A7N8X Rev 2.0 AMD Athlon XP 3000+ 1gb PC3200 DDR (512mb PC3200x2) + 256mb Radeon X800 Pro Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Windows XP SP 2

Jan 2, 2003, 02:53 AM	#24
reno Painlord of Ichor Join Date: May 2002 Location: bloinkin! Posts: 1,610 Rep Power: 0	ry glad to see it worked

Jan 2, 2003, 04:04 AM	Thread Starter #25
Kemal DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 166 Rep Power: 0	Well the next time i booted i got into windows and was told that i had lost all texture acceleration. Next boot got me the same errors when trying to get into windows. I got a new power supply and a new cpu fan, reinstalled the 9700, everything is working 200% better then before. I dont think i had enough power for my 9700. Thanks for all your help guys. __________________ ASUS A7N8X Rev 2.0 AMD Athlon XP 3000+ 1gb PC3200 DDR (512mb PC3200x2) + 256mb Radeon X800 Pro Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Windows XP SP 2