XP2100 Palamino running hot....but not that hot?

DriveEuro · Jan 2, 2003, 07:17 AM

It won't hurt it so much that you shouldn't do it. Put it this way. I've read a normal CPU at stock speeds runs for 10 years, while a sufficiently (not excessive) overclocked CPU last about 5. I find it benficial to overclock. Look at it this way. Why buy a new CPU to just get hmmmm 200mhz. Most CPUs can overclock that. With this XP2100 I would not overclock it, the thing runs too damn hot already. Unlocked with a high FSB, that's all I want.

Rayder · Jan 2, 2003, 11:07 PM

Alrighty, I got that ThermalTake Volcano 7+ heatsink. It knocked 10c off of the the previous idle temp of 51.5c with the stock AMD heatsink to 41.5c with the Volcano 7+. I have it's fan set to high. If I set it to medium, it raises the temp about 2-4c. I'm probably going to use the medium setting, it's a noisy bastard when set to high.

So it is good, me thinks.

kinetic · Jan 2, 2003, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rayder
Alrighty, I got that ThermalTake Volcano 7+ heatsink. It knocked 10c off of the the previous idle temp of 51.5c with the stock AMD heatsink to 41.5c with the Volcano 7+. I have it's fan set to high. If I set it to medium, it raises the temp about 2c. I'm probably going to use the medium setting, it's a noisy bastard when set to high.

So it is good, me thinks.

Mine should be here tomorrow, I'm hoping for similar results!

DriveEuro · Jan 2, 2003, 11:22 PM

I have a better fan and heatsink that you do Raydar but my idle temps are still 50-52. That's with the fan at 4100-4200 rpm.

Rayder · Jan 2, 2003, 11:35 PM

When set to high, the rpm's are 6000 or so, medium is around 4800, low is on the mid-range of 3000 on this Volcano 7+. Maybe that has something to do with it. I also have an exaust fan right next to the CPU fan blowing out of the back of the tower.

I currently have the Volcano 7+ set to medium (until summertime anyway

) and I'm getting 44.5c.

Y2K3 · Jan 2, 2003, 11:50 PM

i've got a 2200+ cpu and it runs at 35 C idle and 44C and max load...using a coolermaster heat pipe

DriveEuro · Jan 3, 2003, 04:57 AM

Yeah, but the 2200 is the T-Bred core...it runs at least 10C cooler to begin with. The 2100 is a Palamino core...

Y2K3 · Jan 3, 2003, 09:13 AM

its a 2000+ overclocked to 2200+....its the normal heat cpu...

The_Neon_Cowboy · Jan 3, 2003, 11:18 AM

that is common check you core voltage alot of boards detect it wrong if you bio's lets you set it. Try setting it down just a notch or two. The real accurate cpu temp is supposed to be never above 50C (but most motherbard sensors are unacurate and must contact the cpu right to get a good reading)...after 50C you begin to experience errors, more crashes, running your cpu higher than that, even if it runs good, you risk frying your cpu's cache!!! 60C would be unacceptable. make sure you have a couple of case fans going two intakes in the front, exhaust in the back.. I have a 120 mm (80 cu ft) in the front and two 80 mm and 1 60 mm in the back mine runs about 36 to 38C with a volcano 5CU+ and arctic silver III . HERE'S AN INSANE TRICK!!! I never trust sensors> what I do is get my system running (case off) and run a 3d game reach in and carefully touch the side of your heatsink it should be cool ( if your lucky) or room temp, if hot or warm something's wrong (turn down your cpu voltage a little then try again make sure to make only small ajustments) Make sure not to touch anything else or you'll light up like a christmas tree.

WyreTheWolf · Jan 3, 2003, 02:25 PM

Guys a lot of utilities read the temps wrong. I have a MSI motherboard and the utility that it came with reads the temp of the CPU as 43*C idle... but in every single other program... They read it as 37*C 5 applications to 1 says that the MSI software reads the temps wrong. Try Mother Board Monitor, SpeedFan ... or some other program theat reads the chipset. Good Luck!

DriveEuro · Jan 3, 2003, 05:15 PM

I've tried all those programs and they all give me the same temps. And Y2K3...some XP2000 were also made with T-Bred core.

DaSnIpE · Jan 4, 2003, 04:05 AM

Here's the settings, http://forums.sudhian.com/messagevie...ighlight_key=y U need Wpcredit and the Kt266 PCR files tho

DaSnIpE · Jan 4, 2003, 04:06 AM

The stuff is here http://www.georgebreese.com/net/software/

Y2K3 · Jan 4, 2003, 08:46 AM

i've heard in many places around the net that AMD XP processors have a brown and greeen wafer.

the green wafer is supposed to be cooler when running than the brown one..

i've got the green one ...so that probably helps my temps

DaSnIpE · Jan 4, 2003, 04:40 PM

What? That makes no sense, the only diff is the location where they were manufactured, unless AMD is hiding something from everyone.

DriveEuro · Jan 6, 2003, 10:48 PM

So I dunno.... I can't get this bitch to boot at all. What happens when you cut the bridges too deep? Does the cut contact ground itself and never boot? I am just so lost with this unlock. Tried 3 different method (except the L1 with the wire trick). I have already cut the L3 and L4 and I can't reconnect them and get the damn thing to boot. I think I'm gonna get a 2200 cuz I'm sick of this processor (i'm on my 1.33 Thunderbird now). THIS BLOWS. Anyone?

DaSnIpE · Jan 7, 2003, 04:55 AM

U can't reconnect? Did u follow the PC stats guide? If I were u get a 1800+ TbredA and oc that to 2 Ghz for cheap, or get a Tbred B 2200+ (make sure it's a Tbred B) if u get any 2200+

DriveEuro · Jan 7, 2003, 05:02 AM

Nah, I just bought a XP2000 about three hours ago online. I wanted to get the 2100 again...But unlocking it just involves toooooooo much work. Yes, I follow PC Stats, and I used a needle as did you. I just don't know whether I cut too deep or if I just have something shorting out. The CPU won't even post or anything now. I tried reversing everything...but I get nothing from it. Nothing any way. It sucks.

DaSnIpE · Jan 8, 2003, 12:36 AM

I didn't do the PC stats guide, but that's ok, well u got a 2000, hopefully u'll get a good core, lol.

tigerarmyAFI · Jan 8, 2003, 01:32 AM

im led to believe the AROIA core is the best (palomino) for overclocking (i got mine from OcUK) so look out for it

DaSnIpE · Jan 8, 2003, 05:55 PM

AGOIA Y is the best for palomino by far, AROIA is 2nd best

RIV@NVX · Jan 8, 2003, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DaSnIpE
The stuff is here http://www.georgebreese.com/net/software/

Thanks for this URL, I couldn't find it anywhere!

DaSnIpE · Jan 9, 2003, 01:46 AM

Np man, hehe, I had to go to the Sudian forums, lol

jp306 · Jan 14, 2003, 08:57 PM

Dude i have overclocked xp1700@ 1.613g and volcano 6+ 7000rpm and I idle at 37c and never runs more than 44c. get new heatsink fan combo

DriveEuro · Jan 14, 2003, 11:30 PM

Who? I have a Volcano 9 and it runs like a charm...I aint buying shit.

dicchicora · Jan 16, 2003, 11:27 PM

I was wondering if my CPU was running hot at 42c...however reding this thread has helped me realize it's not...I'm running an AthlonXP 2000+ with a Coolermaster Heat Pipe Copper HSF and thermal compound. Anyway, thanks for the helpful thread...

Jan 2, 2003, 07:17 AM	Thread Starter #31
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	It won't hurt it so much that you shouldn't do it. Put it this way. I've read a normal CPU at stock speeds runs for 10 years, while a sufficiently (not excessive) overclocked CPU last about 5. I find it benficial to overclock. Look at it this way. Why buy a new CPU to just get hmmmm 200mhz. Most CPUs can overclock that. With this XP2100 I would not overclock it, the thing runs too damn hot already. Unlocked with a high FSB, that's all I want. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 2, 2003, 11:07 PM	#32
Rayder Mostly lurking lately.... Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 2,161 Rep Power: 73	Alrighty, I got that ThermalTake Volcano 7+ heatsink. It knocked 10c off of the the previous idle temp of 51.5c with the stock AMD heatsink to 41.5c with the Volcano 7+. I have it's fan set to high. If I set it to medium, it raises the temp about 2-4c. I'm probably going to use the medium setting, it's a noisy bastard when set to high. So it is good, me thinks. Last edited by Rayder; Jan 2, 2003 at 11:30 PM.

Jan 2, 2003, 11:22 PM	Thread Starter #34
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	I have a better fan and heatsink that you do Raydar but my idle temps are still 50-52. That's with the fan at 4100-4200 rpm. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 2, 2003, 11:35 PM	#35
Rayder Mostly lurking lately.... Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 2,161 Rep Power: 73	When set to high, the rpm's are 6000 or so, medium is around 4800, low is on the mid-range of 3000 on this Volcano 7+. Maybe that has something to do with it. I also have an exaust fan right next to the CPU fan blowing out of the back of the tower. I currently have the Volcano 7+ set to medium (until summertime anyway ) and I'm getting 44.5c. Last edited by Rayder; Jan 2, 2003 at 11:41 PM.

Jan 3, 2003, 04:57 AM	Thread Starter #37
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Yeah, but the 2200 is the T-Bred core...it runs at least 10C cooler to begin with. The 2100 is a Palamino core... __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 2, 2003, 11:50 PM	#36
Y2K3 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: uk Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	i've got a 2200+ cpu and it runs at 35 C idle and 44C and max load...using a coolermaster heat pipe

Jan 3, 2003, 09:13 AM	#38
Y2K3 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: uk Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	its a 2000+ overclocked to 2200+....its the normal heat cpu...

Jan 3, 2003, 11:18 AM	#39
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	I got your answer !!!!!! that is common check you core voltage alot of boards detect it wrong if you bio's lets you set it. Try setting it down just a notch or two. The real accurate cpu temp is supposed to be never above 50C (but most motherbard sensors are unacurate and must contact the cpu right to get a good reading)...after 50C you begin to experience errors, more crashes, running your cpu higher than that, even if it runs good, you risk frying your cpu's cache!!! 60C would be unacceptable. make sure you have a couple of case fans going two intakes in the front, exhaust in the back.. I have a 120 mm (80 cu ft) in the front and two 80 mm and 1 60 mm in the back mine runs about 36 to 38C with a volcano 5CU+ and arctic silver III . HERE'S AN INSANE TRICK!!! I never trust sensors> what I do is get my system running (case off) and run a 3d game reach in and carefully touch the side of your heatsink it should be cool ( if your lucky) or room temp, if hot or warm something's wrong (turn down your cpu voltage a little then try again make sure to make only small ajustments) Make sure not to touch anything else or you'll light up like a christmas tree. __________________

Jan 3, 2003, 02:25 PM	#40
WyreTheWolf Wolfish Bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cave; Ozark Mountains Posts: 2,110 Rep Power: 0	Guys a lot of utilities read the temps wrong. I have a MSI motherboard and the utility that it came with reads the temp of the CPU as 43C idle... but in every single other program... They read it as 37C 5 applications to 1 says that the MSI software reads the temps wrong. Try Mother Board Monitor, SpeedFan ... or some other program theat reads the chipset. Good Luck!

Jan 3, 2003, 05:15 PM	Thread Starter #41
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	I've tried all those programs and they all give me the same temps. And Y2K3...some XP2000 were also made with T-Bred core. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 4, 2003, 04:05 AM	#42
DaSnIpE Driverage Snipe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal, Canada or NYC, USA Posts: 372 Rep Power: 0	Here's the settings, http://forums.sudhian.com/messagevie...ighlight_key=y U need Wpcredit and the Kt266 PCR files tho __________________ Antec SX1030 Case - Enermax 431 W Whisper PS - 4 Case Fans -ThermalRight AX-7 With Panaflo Ultra Fan - Sb Audigy / Logitech Z-560 Speakers / Sennheiser HD497 Headphones WD 80GB 7200 rpm HD - Samsung SyncMaster 955DF - LG 16x10x40x Burner / Pionner 16x Slot DVD View my rig http://nl.dodhq.net/Rig/

Jan 4, 2003, 04:06 AM	#43
DaSnIpE Driverage Snipe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal, Canada or NYC, USA Posts: 372 Rep Power: 0	The stuff is here http://www.georgebreese.com/net/software/ __________________ Antec SX1030 Case - Enermax 431 W Whisper PS - 4 Case Fans -ThermalRight AX-7 With Panaflo Ultra Fan - Sb Audigy / Logitech Z-560 Speakers / Sennheiser HD497 Headphones WD 80GB 7200 rpm HD - Samsung SyncMaster 955DF - LG 16x10x40x Burner / Pionner 16x Slot DVD View my rig http://nl.dodhq.net/Rig/

Jan 4, 2003, 08:46 AM	#44
Y2K3 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: uk Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	i've heard in many places around the net that AMD XP processors have a brown and greeen wafer. the green wafer is supposed to be cooler when running than the brown one.. i've got the green one ...so that probably helps my temps

Jan 4, 2003, 04:40 PM	#45
DaSnIpE Driverage Snipe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal, Canada or NYC, USA Posts: 372 Rep Power: 0	What? That makes no sense, the only diff is the location where they were manufactured, unless AMD is hiding something from everyone. __________________ Antec SX1030 Case - Enermax 431 W Whisper PS - 4 Case Fans -ThermalRight AX-7 With Panaflo Ultra Fan - Sb Audigy / Logitech Z-560 Speakers / Sennheiser HD497 Headphones WD 80GB 7200 rpm HD - Samsung SyncMaster 955DF - LG 16x10x40x Burner / Pionner 16x Slot DVD View my rig http://nl.dodhq.net/Rig/

Jan 6, 2003, 10:48 PM	Thread Starter #46
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	So I dunno.... I can't get this bitch to boot at all. What happens when you cut the bridges too deep? Does the cut contact ground itself and never boot? I am just so lost with this unlock. Tried 3 different method (except the L1 with the wire trick). I have already cut the L3 and L4 and I can't reconnect them and get the damn thing to boot. I think I'm gonna get a 2200 cuz I'm sick of this processor (i'm on my 1.33 Thunderbird now). THIS BLOWS. Anyone? __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 8, 2003, 01:32 AM	#50
tigerarmyAFI DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: England Posts: 111 Rep Power: 0	im led to believe the AROIA core is the best (palomino) for overclocking (i got mine from OcUK) so look out for it __________________ AMD AthlonXP 1800+ ThoroughBred B JIUHB @ 2137MHz Geforce4 Ti 4200 128Mb @ 310/600 (ASUS V8420) ABIT KX-7 333 v1.1 512Mb Micron PC2700 DDR Creative Live! 5.1 Aircooled (45c Full load)

Jan 7, 2003, 04:55 AM	#47
DaSnIpE Driverage Snipe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal, Canada or NYC, USA Posts: 372 Rep Power: 0	U can't reconnect? Did u follow the PC stats guide? If I were u get a 1800+ TbredA and oc that to 2 Ghz for cheap, or get a Tbred B 2200+ (make sure it's a Tbred B) if u get any 2200+ __________________ Antec SX1030 Case - Enermax 431 W Whisper PS - 4 Case Fans -ThermalRight AX-7 With Panaflo Ultra Fan - Sb Audigy / Logitech Z-560 Speakers / Sennheiser HD497 Headphones WD 80GB 7200 rpm HD - Samsung SyncMaster 955DF - LG 16x10x40x Burner / Pionner 16x Slot DVD View my rig http://nl.dodhq.net/Rig/

Jan 7, 2003, 05:02 AM	Thread Starter #48
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Nah, I just bought a XP2000 about three hours ago online. I wanted to get the 2100 again...But unlocking it just involves toooooooo much work. Yes, I follow PC Stats, and I used a needle as did you. I just don't know whether I cut too deep or if I just have something shorting out. The CPU won't even post or anything now. I tried reversing everything...but I get nothing from it. Nothing any way. It sucks. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 8, 2003, 12:36 AM	#49
DaSnIpE Driverage Snipe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal, Canada or NYC, USA Posts: 372 Rep Power: 0	I didn't do the PC stats guide, but that's ok, well u got a 2000, hopefully u'll get a good core, lol. __________________ Antec SX1030 Case - Enermax 431 W Whisper PS - 4 Case Fans -ThermalRight AX-7 With Panaflo Ultra Fan - Sb Audigy / Logitech Z-560 Speakers / Sennheiser HD497 Headphones WD 80GB 7200 rpm HD - Samsung SyncMaster 955DF - LG 16x10x40x Burner / Pionner 16x Slot DVD View my rig http://nl.dodhq.net/Rig/

Jan 8, 2003, 05:55 PM	#51
DaSnIpE Driverage Snipe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal, Canada or NYC, USA Posts: 372 Rep Power: 0	AGOIA Y is the best for palomino by far, AROIA is 2nd best __________________ Antec SX1030 Case - Enermax 431 W Whisper PS - 4 Case Fans -ThermalRight AX-7 With Panaflo Ultra Fan - Sb Audigy / Logitech Z-560 Speakers / Sennheiser HD497 Headphones WD 80GB 7200 rpm HD - Samsung SyncMaster 955DF - LG 16x10x40x Burner / Pionner 16x Slot DVD View my rig http://nl.dodhq.net/Rig/

Jan 9, 2003, 01:46 AM	#53
DaSnIpE Driverage Snipe Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal, Canada or NYC, USA Posts: 372 Rep Power: 0	Np man, hehe, I had to go to the Sudian forums, lol __________________ Antec SX1030 Case - Enermax 431 W Whisper PS - 4 Case Fans -ThermalRight AX-7 With Panaflo Ultra Fan - Sb Audigy / Logitech Z-560 Speakers / Sennheiser HD497 Headphones WD 80GB 7200 rpm HD - Samsung SyncMaster 955DF - LG 16x10x40x Burner / Pionner 16x Slot DVD View my rig http://nl.dodhq.net/Rig/

Jan 14, 2003, 08:57 PM	#54
jp306 DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 309 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Dude i have overclocked xp1700@ 1.613g and volcano 6+ 7000rpm and I idle at 37c and never runs more than 44c. get new heatsink fan combo

Jan 14, 2003, 11:30 PM	Thread Starter #55
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Who? I have a Volcano 9 and it runs like a charm...I aint buying shit. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 16, 2003, 11:27 PM	#56
dicchicora DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	I was wondering if my CPU was running hot at 42c...however reding this thread has helped me realize it's not...I'm running an AthlonXP 2000+ with a Coolermaster Heat Pipe Copper HSF and thermal compound. Anyway, thanks for the helpful thread...