Opetron or A64??

**temeteus82** · Oct 15, 2005, 08:36 AM

Hi!
Whats the difference with Opetron and Athlon 64 cpu's???

CDsDontBurn · Oct 15, 2005, 09:20 AM

opteron = server PC

A64 = desktop PC

**temeteus82** · Oct 15, 2005, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

opteron = server PC

A64 = desktop PC

Yeah, but is there any performance difference ...

Lowfat · Oct 15, 2005, 03:08 PM

The Opteron's 1 series use a San Diego core used in A64 3700+ and 4000+ . The difference between Those and Venice cores (3000+ - 3800+ ) is they have twice the cache.

Are you thinking about an opteron 146 socket 939? If supported by your motherboard, it would make a very good cpu, as all it is, is a declocked 3700+, and it isn't any more than a 3000+.

No_Style · Oct 15, 2005, 03:38 PM

Also, Opterons have HTT links which allow direct/efficient connections with other CPUs for multi-cpu setups. Hardcore multi-tasker should get 2 x dual core Opterons for 4 cores of multi-tasking goodness.

hawk16 · Oct 15, 2005, 04:12 PM

Yea, operton is good for servers. A64 is good for everything else besides servers.

Lowfat · Oct 15, 2005, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by hawk16

Yea, operton is good for servers. A64 is good for everything else besides servers.

I'd take a opteron 146 over and A64 cpu up to 3700+.

**temeteus82** · Oct 15, 2005, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tulcakelume

The Opteron's 1 series use a San Diego core used in A64 3700+ and 4000+ . The difference between Those and Venice cores (3000+ - 3800+ ) is they have twice the cache.

Are you thinking about an opteron 146 socket 939? If supported by your motherboard, it would make a very good cpu, as all it is, is a declocked 3700+, and it isn't any more than a 3000+.

Yeah. I was thiking to get that opetron 146...

Partizan · Oct 20, 2005, 03:34 PM

I will get my Opteron 144 on tuesday next week as a replacement for my A64 3000+ Venice.

Will post the results.

Regards, Partizan

Lowfat · Oct 20, 2005, 09:10 PM

looking foward to it.. I don't think there has been a lot of people that have tried this out yet.

Partizan · Oct 25, 2005, 08:19 PM

Well, I got my Opteron 144 (9x200) 1.8 GHz. It currently runs at (267x9) 2.4 GHz @ 1.4V.

Will try more...

Regards, Partizan

Lowfat · Oct 26, 2005, 03:34 AM

thats pretty good. Did you have to flash your bios or anything to get it to work?

Partizan · Oct 26, 2005, 06:14 AM

I didn't even revert to biso defaults. I just lowered the voltage, and the CPU was recognized by the mainboard. It runs 2 degrees celsius hotter, but it runs smooth

My two buddies and I bought three of them together. Even their serial numbers are consecutive. My buddy has his at 2.7 GHz @ 1.55V. I have stability problems with anything higher than 2.5 GHz, probably because of my cheap, shitty memory.

Regards, Partizan

Lowfat · Oct 26, 2005, 04:34 PM

still higher than 3700+ san diego clocks at a much cheaper price.

Partizan · Nov 3, 2005, 12:00 PM

well it runs at 312x9 the whopping 2.81 GHz on air. Alas only with my buddies memory. My memory sucks.

Regards, Partizan

Lowfat · Nov 3, 2005, 02:02 PM

thats damn good for such a cheap processor and on air yet.

Asmoday · Nov 3, 2005, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Tulcakelume

thats damn good for such a cheap processor and on air yet.

Yes it really is, I'm seriously considering picking one up for my self..

Judas · Nov 3, 2005, 10:47 PM

imo... enless your interested in overclocking the 939 variant of the opteron, it's really quite pointless as you can't take advantage of what it was built for. Until you slap it in a 940 chipset with at least another cpu socket... and then get them dual core... that's when you'll see what the opterons server/multitasking abilities start to really show up. Like no Style mentioned.

IMO, better have a fat wallet.... running a 940 setup isn't cheap at all specially diving into an dual core cpu set. however, i doubt you'll run out of preformance for SEVERAL years

Lowfat · Nov 4, 2005, 12:03 AM

If you want a single core AMD CPU, Opteron's are without a doubt the best price/performance ratio.

Judas · Nov 4, 2005, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Tulcakelume

If you want a single core AMD CPU, Opteron's are without a doubt the best price/performance ratio.

they have x2 variants of the opterons...

Lowfat · Nov 5, 2005, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Judas

they have x2 variants of the opterons...

I don't think they have Socket 939 variants of it. I mean the 1 series opterons.

Judas · Nov 5, 2005, 02:11 AM

i wouldn't be surprised if they have a 939 series 1 dual core varation on the way though....

swimtech · Nov 5, 2005, 04:09 AM

The dual core 1 series socket 939's are out - but they'z not cheap...

Partizan · Nov 11, 2005, 03:58 PM

Exactly. Single core Opteron for socket 939 is the way to go! With my crappy memory My baby rocks stable at the whopping 2.7 GHz. I have to get my hands on a good stepping Opteron 146. Oh, my results can be viewed here.

Regards, Partizan

Lowfat · Nov 11, 2005, 11:42 PM

crappy memory @ 300HTT??!! Or are you running a divider, if not why not try one?

2.7GHz isn't anything to complain about either, definately for the price of the cpu.

Partizan · Nov 12, 2005, 08:33 AM

Of course I am running a divider ( 300 x 7/10 = 210 MHz). Unfortunately I got the cheapest memory available on the market. Thankfuly I can run them at least at 1T and a bit tighter timings 2.5-3-3-7 (default 2.5-3-3-8).

I thought of replacing them for some good modules, but then again I rather buy another 2 x 512 of the same crappy memory and have 2 gigs.

Regards, Partizan

dipstick · Nov 15, 2005, 04:14 AM

The dual core Opterons run on lower voltage than the X2's(1.30-1.35v for Opteron and 1.35-1.4v for X2). Same probably goes for the single core cpu's and is probably why they are better OC'ers.

Oct 15, 2005, 09:20 AM	#2
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Oct 15, 2005, 03:08 PM	#4
Lowfat Xtreme Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can Posts: 4,254 Rep Power: 101	The Opteron's 1 series use a San Diego core used in A64 3700+ and 4000+ . The difference between Those and Venice cores (3000+ - 3800+ ) is they have twice the cache. Are you thinking about an opteron 146 socket 939? If supported by your motherboard, it would make a very good cpu, as all it is, is a declocked 3700+, and it isn't any more than a 3000+. __________________

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No_Style Styleless Wonder Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 6,034 Rep Power: 0	Also, Opterons have HTT links which allow direct/efficient connections with other CPUs for multi-cpu setups. Hardcore multi-tasker should get 2 x dual core Opterons for 4 cores of multi-tasking goodness. __________________ "The Best Style Is No Style" Specifications Here

Oct 20, 2005, 03:34 PM	#9
Partizan Fun loving criminal Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Slovenia Posts: 1,182 Rep Power: 62 System Specs	I will get my Opteron 144 on tuesday next week as a replacement for my A64 3000+ Venice. Will post the results. Regards, Partizan __________________ Live and let live!

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Lowfat Xtreme Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can Posts: 4,254 Rep Power: 101	looking foward to it.. I don't think there has been a lot of people that have tried this out yet. __________________

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hawk16 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 22 Rep Power: 0	Yea, operton is good for servers. A64 is good for everything else besides servers.

Oct 25, 2005, 08:19 PM	#11
Partizan Fun loving criminal Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Slovenia Posts: 1,182 Rep Power: 62 System Specs	Well, I got my Opteron 144 (9x200) 1.8 GHz. It currently runs at (267x9) 2.4 GHz @ 1.4V. Will try more... Regards, Partizan __________________ Live and let live!

Oct 26, 2005, 03:34 AM	#12
Lowfat Xtreme Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can Posts: 4,254 Rep Power: 101	thats pretty good. Did you have to flash your bios or anything to get it to work? __________________

Oct 26, 2005, 06:14 AM	#13
Partizan Fun loving criminal Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Slovenia Posts: 1,182 Rep Power: 62 System Specs	I didn't even revert to biso defaults. I just lowered the voltage, and the CPU was recognized by the mainboard. It runs 2 degrees celsius hotter, but it runs smooth My two buddies and I bought three of them together. Even their serial numbers are consecutive. My buddy has his at 2.7 GHz @ 1.55V. I have stability problems with anything higher than 2.5 GHz, probably because of my cheap, shitty memory. Regards, Partizan __________________ Live and let live!

Oct 26, 2005, 04:34 PM	#14
Lowfat Xtreme Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can Posts: 4,254 Rep Power: 101	still higher than 3700+ san diego clocks at a much cheaper price. __________________

Nov 3, 2005, 12:00 PM	#15
Partizan Fun loving criminal Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Slovenia Posts: 1,182 Rep Power: 62 System Specs	well it runs at 312x9 the whopping 2.81 GHz on air. Alas only with my buddies memory. My memory sucks. Regards, Partizan __________________ Live and let live!

Nov 3, 2005, 02:02 PM	#16
Lowfat Xtreme Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can Posts: 4,254 Rep Power: 101	thats damn good for such a cheap processor and on air yet. __________________

Nov 4, 2005, 12:03 AM	#19
Lowfat Xtreme Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can Posts: 4,254 Rep Power: 101	If you want a single core AMD CPU, Opteron's are without a doubt the best price/performance ratio. __________________

Nov 5, 2005, 04:09 AM	#23
swimtech HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,040 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	The dual core 1 series socket 939's are out - but they'z not cheap... __________________ It's not so much getting your way that matters or not - what matters is how you go about getting it.

Nov 11, 2005, 03:58 PM	#24
Partizan Fun loving criminal Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Slovenia Posts: 1,182 Rep Power: 62 System Specs	Exactly. Single core Opteron for socket 939 is the way to go! With my crappy memory My baby rocks stable at the whopping 2.7 GHz. I have to get my hands on a good stepping Opteron 146. Oh, my results can be viewed here. Regards, Partizan __________________ Live and let live!

Nov 11, 2005, 11:42 PM	#25
Lowfat Xtreme Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can Posts: 4,254 Rep Power: 101	crappy memory @ 300HTT??!! Or are you running a divider, if not why not try one? 2.7GHz isn't anything to complain about either, definately for the price of the cpu. __________________

Nov 12, 2005, 08:33 AM	#26
Partizan Fun loving criminal Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Slovenia Posts: 1,182 Rep Power: 62 System Specs	Of course I am running a divider ( 300 x 7/10 = 210 MHz). Unfortunately I got the cheapest memory available on the market. Thankfuly I can run them at least at 1T and a bit tighter timings 2.5-3-3-7 (default 2.5-3-3-8). I thought of replacing them for some good modules, but then again I rather buy another 2 x 512 of the same crappy memory and have 2 gigs. Regards, Partizan __________________ Live and let live!

Nov 15, 2005, 04:14 AM	#27
dipstick HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,609 Rep Power: 71 System Specs	The dual core Opterons run on lower voltage than the X2's(1.30-1.35v for Opteron and 1.35-1.4v for X2). Same probably goes for the single core cpu's and is probably why they are better OC'ers.