Judas

Got a few questions...

You know i ended up with count em, 2, yes 2 faulty 1100DF (Samsung) 21" monitors. (i confirmed that the shipment that i ended up getting the 2 out of were faulty...)

Anyways.... after putting the monitor though it's paces.. lots of moving it around for example (trips from the city to the farm and back again several times) it's now starting to show some more extreme problems.

Well the orginally problem was over volting with the first monitor.. second ended up with the same problem but also 2 dead (if you can call them that) pixels... (one is just slight above the center of the monitor.. .and one kinda down and to the left of it)

Well, with the deal i got with the monitor.. if it falls apart within the 3 years from the day i purchase it.. i can return it .. they can either fix it (VERY UNLIKELY as it's completely faulty) or replace it free of charge with the exact same model or something as comparible as possible (if nessary, upgraded).

So, seeing as the store neither can get the same montior in.. they no longer carry CRTs (that would even come close to matching the price value/ let alone specs this thing has)...

leaving the obvious : LCDs

I'm not really to much of a fan of LCDs just yet, every time i fire one up and use it for awhile, i get disappointed... it just ghosts a bit to much for my likeing (even when others say they don't notice it)... Plus the degree at which you look also effect ( occasionly play some games where 4 players... sitting at very sharp angles to the screen play)


Anyways.. taking a gander at the list they have of LCDs... i only found one model that even remotely comes close (although imo, not close enough.. for me... but may have to do)

Please check this monitor out. Let me know if you know anything about them. Are they a good choice? do they REALLY probably look good at a native 1600x1200 res? Color? Brightness? Sharpness in comparison to what i got? You probably know what i'm looking for... will this do? (gonna be sad because i'll miss my 4096x1536 desktop resolution)

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Judas

OH.. BTW..

take a look at the available list i have to choose from.. maybe theres something else i should look at (maybe give me a few other choices reguardless of price): http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/cla...=EN&catid=1006

Obviously i'll be 19" + on the lcd list (just clock to few all)

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Judas

yikes... i think i better disconnect my monitor now before something nasty happens and sends a spike of energy back through to the computer and fries something.

It's starting to pop occasionally with a really lound nasty staticiky. And the pictures keeps folding into itself every once awhile then comes back.

I just wanna make sure this thing pretty much packs er in.

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drwho

Hi Judas

I've looked at the link you've posted for the Future Shop but I can't really comment on any of the LCD monitors listed there, I've no familiarity with any of them. I recently purchased a 19" LCD from a local outlet near my house and have to say it has been one of my better computer purchases of late. I realize that a 19" monitor might be somewhat of a letdown after using a 21" CRT, but I really like this LCD monitor I bought. It's the Hyundai Imagequest L90D+. You might want to give it a look. Here's a link to the place where I bought mine. Good Luck on your search.



drwho

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Judas

unfortuneatly..... if it's not on the futureshop list... i can't get it.

I soley have a exchange warranty through this place... if something happens with my product within 3 of my purchase, i can take it back and get FREE OF CHARGE exchange/upgrade. ATM, i've no money free to even make even one of the cheapest purchases of a 15inch crt. I spent the extra money on the warranty and i'm going to put it to use like all the warranties i've bought and have thoroughly used.

Thanks for the link... looks like a fairly good monitor

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drwho

Well, sorry I couldn't be of more help, Judas. Good Luck, I hope you get your monitor problem worked out.



drwho

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Judas

yup.. thanks..

atm... so far this 204T lcd looks pretty damn good. Course i don't always trust customer reviews... one apparently seems to really like the 204T (for photo editing).. and points out that there was 3 dead pixels on it. However also mentions the corners appear a bit brighter.

I'm still on the fence for this one... ack, new swimtechs take on the monitor

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Judas

about 1 hour ago.. my monitor went poof...

but i think i got somewhat of the -_-end of the stick.

Although i had the monitor for over a year, i got my entire refund. Not exchange as they couldn't find another product anywhere near the same as my crt (um, they didn't even have a crt aside from a cheap pos 17" which still isn't even worth mentioning).... orginally thought i'd end up with an LCD.. but according to the agreement.. it doesn't fall in line quite right. So, i only ended up with one choice.. get a full refund. However... i didn't get it in cash.. i got it as a store credit.

So i'm still left with the above dicision.

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swimtech

Aw Man! What a nasty turn... The monitor's horizontal/high voltage stage shorted - the CRT itself is likely just fine though.

The 204T is a nice panel - the best you could have gotten at the store - and a nice purchase period - from what I read it is an 8bit panel (16.7 million colors) with excellent contrast and nice viewing angle. The quality of the panel is comparable to the Dell UltraSharp series of late. BTW, I'd also get Tipstaff's input on this LCD as he's very much in touch with both the technology that matters and has seen a bunch of them himself...

But about your CRTs - don't you have recourse with Samsung Canada (directly) for repair of the monitors under warranty (1-800-SAMSUNG). Those puppies are great monitors and only a year or so old - Samsung likely has a factory repair center that might be worthwhile to ship to. They'll probably repair the chassis (or put a replacement in it...), align the CRT, and return it to you - should last years yet...

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Judas

actually, from what i understood... they serveyed my crt and basically said it'll cost more to fix then to replace...

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PangingJr

i think, even you have to spend a few more for the replacements it's really the time for you to get LCDs

Judas

i like my CRTs so much... they just don't compare to anything LCD has provided.. enless i spend 2k?

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PangingJr

you mean it's too good to forget. that both monitors are too for almost everythings, including... heavy, etc, etc. it's time, unless you can't really live with LCDs.

Judas

Well the thing is... i have no real need for LCDs in the first place.... the only thing i may be saving is a smidge amount of energy.

I've the Desktop space, i don't really mind the weight (good excersize for me), and they just preform and look great Sharp.. true to life... crisp clear pictures.

Unlike most LCDs which enless you dump what it would cost to build an entire computer, into a single LCD display that preforms excellently.

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swimtech

I don't get that response from the store, doesn't sound right - shouldn't cost you a cent but for shipping - it's under warranty - unless they're not an authorized dealer and Samsung won't stand behind it because of the store that sold it to you - a phone call to Samsung with humble pleading about the quality you'll be so disappointed to leave behind might persuade them... Of course, now you would have to get the 1100 back from the store - I'm guessing you left it with them when you got your LCD...

I've seen it a lot. The money you spent speaks to Samsung. It will make a large difference to them if you contact them - the end user calling often makes a big difference. Unless, you think it would jeopardize the relationship you have with the store you (no doubt...) often purchase from.

Again though, on the flip side, the 204T is a nice panel.

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PangingJr

a full refund as a store credit? well, i say that's really their best offer.
you probably don't want to spend more money than you already have. but if you don't really want to get the LCDs at the store you just have to decide what to get from them. or ask the store manager if he could give you a voucher so you can come back for the store credit at later time. and go buy your new monitors from somewhere else.

Judas

I'll check into it Swimtech, (i didn't end up with the LCD.. they gave me a full refund), thinking about it now.... it wouldn't have costed me a sent as it's under there warranty and still under manufacturers warranty. Course i didn't really care for the costumer surface person there at the time. (kinda acted like she new to much and i didn't know a damn thing)...

Anyways, yes, left it at the place, they don't throw things out to quickly but i'll check into the whole ordeal.

Yes i got a full blown refund from the place. Instead of an LCD (they couldn't make the upgrade/exchange on this product due tot he terms not being able to be met at all).... every cent i spent on it, i've gotten returned to me. (tax and all)

Considering that the monitor can now be bought for slightly cheaper now.. (just not availble anywhere here in the city however), i think i got a reasonable deal out of it.

I mean, Manufacturers are going to stop making CRTs almost all together right swimtech? isn't it starting to get to the point that an LCD is very close to being as good as a CRT will ever been in responce times/clarity/sharpness/crispness/ you name it?

At some point i would have to go for an LCD anyways, plus, seeing as alot of stores around here are no long holding any CRTs (except for the EXCESSIVELY cheap ones that are garbage) i don't think i really have much of a choice.

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swimtech

Honestly Judas, if you want to stick with an LCD bought locally, that Samsung is a good one to stick with - today.

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Judas

ok... i'm confident in that... soon as i know i can afford it.. i'll pick it up...

Or perhaps... what are those more expensive ones like? the thought "widescreen" has now crossed my mind due to finding more and more games that benifit from the widescreen prospective.. Good with movies to...

anything there that look good? Or would you suggest i wait a while if i'm getting a widescreen?

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swimtech

Widescreen wise - there are plusses and minuses... Seems only the latest games support the native resolution of 1680x1050 that the widescreen 20" displays provide - as you noted, and only a few manufacturers make them. Your older games won't fill the screen or will be scaled. Samsung hasn't gotten into the 20" market yet with a really good panel, and price/performance will no doubt get better overall when they do.

The Dell 2005FPW is a really good unit, when you get a good sample (you have no doubt read about their backlight bleedthrough problem) and the Phillips 200W6CB likely uses the same panel. They are the top contenders below $1000 (US).

That being said, your particular rig will allow you to play the latest games at native resolution very smoothly and look outstanding. That nice W I D E screen will look great, and give you a whole different perspective on your viewing capabilities - those units can do multiple inputs simultaneously...

You were spoiled by that 1100DF though, I know...

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Judas

.......... indeed....... anything i look at now is going to cost twice as much for about 1/4 the quality.. it's quite depressing

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