New Computer

NinjaFrag · Dec 12, 2005, 08:10 PM

I dont know if this is the right place or 2 post this
This seemed 2 be the closest forum 4 it so im sorry if i post in the wrong place.

Im going 2 get a new comp and need 2 know if this new comp will
Have more power be4 i buy it.

My current comp is
Gateway Brand
2.0Ghz
P4
512Ram
Geforce 5500 FX OC APG
40GB Hard Drive
Windows XP Home Edition
This is all i know about my comp

The New comp im looking at is
Emachine Brand T6524
CPU-AMD Athlon 64 3500+Processor (64-bit with AMD64 Technology)
(512KB L2 cache,2.20Ghz,2000Mhz FSB)
OS-Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005
ChipSet-ATI RS482
Memory-1024MB DDR (2x512MB),400MHZ Dual Channel
Expandable to 4GB
HardDrive-200GB (7200 RPM,2MB cache)

Heres the URL 4 it
http://emachines.com/products/produc...Machines_T6524#
If it is better can you give me a percent on how faster it will be?

Only games i play are
UT99,Diablo2LoD and KnightsOnline

Ty 4 your time

Rasta Monsta · Dec 12, 2005, 08:21 PM

Hi NF, welcome to DH.

It's time for you to learn to build your own computer. Don't buy from E-Machines, gather good quality components and build a rig for yourself. You will get a better rig, for cheaper, and the satisfaction of having be your own creation. If you need any help with your project, you have come to the right place, people around here are extremely helpful.

How much are you looking to spend?

rasta

Vikingod · Dec 12, 2005, 08:22 PM

well, the emachines one only has onboard video, so that would hit the games quite a bit. There is however a pci express slot available, so you can always buy another video card. As far as a percentage goes... no idea (probably wont get one, very hard to do). With the games you pay, I doubt you will see any read improvement, as those games run very well (I assume) on the machine you currently have. For future games, a decent video card would get you playing just about anything you want for a while.

edit: I also agree with Rasta, its always better to build your own machine. Its easy as pie, and saves you loads of cash.

Rasta Monsta · Dec 12, 2005, 08:58 PM

Here is a parts list that may suit you (there is no optical drive, as I thought that could come out of your current rig):

Antec Black Case 400W, Model #: TX640B $98.99
ABIT AN8-ULTRA $114.00
GIGABYTE X800XL $254.00
AMD Athlon 64 3500+ - Retail $202.00
OCZ Performance 1GB (2 x 512MB) $114.43
HITACHI Deskstar 250GB Hard Drive $108.00
Microsoft Windows XP Pro $146.95

Subtotal: $1,038.37

You could make this cheaper with a cheaper video card, and your own copy of Windows. This is guaranteed to BURY that EMachines setup, and to be easily upgradable in the future, unlike many prebuilt units.

rasta

NinjaFrag · Dec 12, 2005, 09:35 PM

Ty 4 your posts

<<<Here is a parts list that may suit you (there is no optical drive, as I thought that could come out of your current rig):

Antec Black Case 400W, Model #: TX640B $98.99
ABIT AN8-ULTRA $114.00
GIGABYTE X800XL $254.00
AMD Athlon 64 3500+ - Retail $202.00
OCZ Performance 1GB (2 x 512MB) $114.43
HITACHI Deskstar 250GB Hard Drive $108.00
Microsoft Windows XP Pro $146.95

Subtotal: $1,038.37>>>

Ill wait 4 my income tax 2 get that

At this time i only got $500-550 4 a Comp
Yes my PC right now flys on the games i play
I get around 115-120 fps on UT

with the Dh drivers

Mabey ill get my bro a new comp
I dont know much about Cumputers cause when P4 came out thats when i got my comp lol
I was like P4!!!!!!
But my bros comp i think is slower then mine here is his specs

E-Machine
Intel Celaron 2.6Ghz(Or its 2.4Ghz i dont really know lol)
40GB HardDrive
512Ram
ATI 9250 PCI 128MB
Windows XP Home Edition

Emachine Brand T6524
CPU-AMD Athlon 64 3500+Processor (64-bit with AMD64 Technology)
(512KB L2 cache,2.20Ghz,2000Mhz FSB)
OS-Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005
ChipSet-ATI RS482
Memory-1024MB DDR (2x512MB),400MHZ Dual Channel
Expandable to 4GB
HardDrive-200GB (7200 RPM,2MB cache)

So would this 1 be better 4 him?
Cause he is always saying he is lagging and his screen shakes
And On games he does warp around alot lol

Ty 4 your time

Vikingod · Dec 12, 2005, 09:38 PM

Again, the systems video card is lacking, so your brothers performance would probably not get any better in games. Yes the processor and RAm is better, but GPU is what matters in games.

NinjaFrag · Dec 13, 2005, 01:35 AM

Yes he was going 2 get a PCI-eX card 4 that new comp
I think he wanted a Geforce 256mb 6xxx line

GPU?? i have no idea what that is lol
Your talking 2 some1 who is Computer dumb

NinjaFrag · Dec 15, 2005, 04:36 AM

ok guys iv been looking at websites and everything 4 the last 2-3 days
trying 2 find a ok computer 2 buy 4 my bro.
Iv came up with this 1
http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/sh...#defaultAnchor
and im going 2 get a ATI x600 pro 256mb pci-e video card
my question is can this computer run that video card?
and will it run games like UT99,Diablo2 LoD and UT2k4?

and will it be better then his current pc
ill post his specs again if u dont want2 reread everything

His Current PC
512 Ram
2.6Ghz
Intel Celeron
9250 pci video card
40gb hard drive

im sorry if im repeating myself
i know if u make 1 your self its better
im thinking of making 1 in the near furture

btw this is going 2 be his xmis gift

Ty 4 your time

Rasta Monsta · Dec 15, 2005, 05:14 AM

What model of E-Machine? A CPU upgrade and some more RAM might give you a substantial boost...those P4-based Celerons are pretty weak.

rasta

NinjaFrag · Dec 15, 2005, 06:19 AM

W2646

i think thats it got it at walmart 4 like $300

CDsDontBurn · Dec 15, 2005, 06:28 AM

For $300, you can't get a whole lot. sure, it'll be better than what your brother has now, but it won't be anything fantastic. well, at least to today's standards. and like rasta has stated, see if you can build your own machine. it's not very hard to do so. you just gotta be careful on not to fubar anything up. if you like putting stuff together, then this would be right up your alley!

NinjaFrag · Dec 15, 2005, 06:35 AM

lol yeah at that time it was his 1st comp
and wanted 2 play UT with me

can some1 tell me what this is

Intel Pentium 4, 2000 MHz
100MHz external bus the external bus thing

CDsDontBurn · Dec 15, 2005, 07:43 AM

the external bus is more commonly known as the FSB (Front Side Bus). It is rather slow to today's P4 processors, as a large majority of them have 800Mhz FSB.

your processor has a 100Mhz FSB with a multiplier of 4 (effective 400Mhz FSB), but like i just said, today's CPUs are 800Mhz (200Mhz w/ multiplier of 4).

Rasta Monsta · Dec 15, 2005, 08:09 PM

That EMachines model has an i845g chipset motherboard, so it should support a 533 FSB PIV, which would run craploads faster than that celeron. I found suitable parts for you online.

YOU WILL NEED TO CALL EMACHINES & VERIFY THAT THESE PARTS WILL WORK!

1 GB Crucial PC2100 for $106.
2.53 Pentium 4 (Northwood) for $245.

That would give that little Pee Machine a huge boost.

rasta

NinjaFrag · Dec 16, 2005, 01:51 AM

ahh ty 4 the time u took 2 look into that

ill call them friday afternoon

HawgsHead · Dec 17, 2005, 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NinjaFrag

I dont know if this is the right place or 2 post this
This seemed 2 be the closest forum 4 it so im sorry if i post in the wrong place.

Im going 2 get a new comp and need 2 know if this new comp will
Have more power be4 i buy it.

My current comp is
Gateway Brand
2.0Ghz
P4
512Ram
Geforce 5500 FX OC APG
40GB Hard Drive
Windows XP Home Edition
This is all i know about my comp

The New comp im looking at is
Emachine Brand T6524
CPU-AMD Athlon 64 3500+Processor (64-bit with AMD64 Technology)
(512KB L2 cache,2.20Ghz,2000Mhz FSB)
OS-Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005
ChipSet-ATI RS482
Memory-1024MB DDR (2x512MB),400MHZ Dual Channel
Expandable to 4GB
HardDrive-200GB (7200 RPM,2MB cache)

Heres the URL 4 it
http://emachines.com/products/produc...Machines_T6524#
If it is better can you give me a percent on how faster it will be?

Only games i play are
UT99,Diablo2LoD and KnightsOnline

Ty 4 your time

I second qwhat Rasta said!!!!I baught Alienware and Falcon NW systems for 7 to 8 years UNTIL I came here.I had built my own rig in less than 2 months after I started hanging out here.The rig was up and running in 4 hours!It's not hard at all.If you can build a fairly complex model car you can build youre own rig!And as Rasta said,You ARE at the right place.No one will laugh at you here!We might laugh WITH you but we will not laugh AT you. E-Bay that rig you have now,take the $$$ you were gonna spend on the new rig and build it youreself.Plus when you build youre rig youreself it's so easy to up-grade what you have in almost all cases which saves you even more $$$$$.....Good luck!

Rasta Monsta · Dec 17, 2005, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NinjaFrag

ahh ty 4 the time u took 2 look into that

ill call them friday afternoon

I just found that cpu for $140, BTW. . .

NinjaFrag · Dec 18, 2005, 08:21 PM

My inlaw bought a Gateway pc with a pci-e slot
and he just orderd a x300 ati card

i was looking at the specs 4 that card and it says somehting about
having pci express x16 lane native support
but on his comp it has pci-e dosent say 16x or anything
so would that card work 4 him?

also yes i bought the 2 thngs u posted about the emachine upgrades
cant wait 4 those parts

waterloo · Dec 18, 2005, 10:37 PM

DO NOT BUY FROM THOSE PEOPLE (DELL, HP, COMPAQ) etc.. THey are a pain in the ass when it comes to upgrading, and a pain in the ass for RMAs, problem solving etc. Build you own!

Pesticle · Dec 18, 2005, 11:40 PM

Yeah.

I bought a vaio.

Did a case transplant, and since then have upgraded the mobo and graphics.

All further upgrades are going to be a breeze now.

NinjaFrag · Dec 19, 2005, 04:18 AM

Yeah i will build my own when i get my income tax in

and i did tell my inlaw not 2 buy a Gateway cause i think they suck 4 games
but he did, also he bought a x300 from ebay
and im guessing it wont work cause it says you need a pci-e 16x slot
we dont even know what he has, just says pci-e lol

Kinyin · Dec 19, 2005, 08:54 PM

My family purchased 3 emachines and they all deteriorated rapidly. They have horrible support for their products and they are of poor quality IMO.

Dec 12, 2005, 08:10 PM	#1
NinjaFrag DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	New Computer I dont know if this is the right place or 2 post this This seemed 2 be the closest forum 4 it so im sorry if i post in the wrong place. Im going 2 get a new comp and need 2 know if this new comp will Have more power be4 i buy it. My current comp is Gateway Brand 2.0Ghz P4 512Ram Geforce 5500 FX OC APG 40GB Hard Drive Windows XP Home Edition This is all i know about my comp The New comp im looking at is Emachine Brand T6524 CPU-AMD Athlon 64 3500+Processor (64-bit with AMD64 Technology) (512KB L2 cache,2.20Ghz,2000Mhz FSB) OS-Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 ChipSet-ATI RS482 Memory-1024MB DDR (2x512MB),400MHZ Dual Channel Expandable to 4GB HardDrive-200GB (7200 RPM,2MB cache) Heres the URL 4 it http://emachines.com/products/produc...Machines_T6524# If it is better can you give me a percent on how faster it will be? Only games i play are UT99,Diablo2LoD and KnightsOnline Ty 4 your time

Dec 12, 2005, 09:35 PM	Thread Starter #5
NinjaFrag DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	Ty 4 your posts <<<Here is a parts list that may suit you (there is no optical drive, as I thought that could come out of your current rig): Antec Black Case 400W, Model #: TX640B $98.99 ABIT AN8-ULTRA $114.00 GIGABYTE X800XL $254.00 AMD Athlon 64 3500+ - Retail $202.00 OCZ Performance 1GB (2 x 512MB) $114.43 HITACHI Deskstar 250GB Hard Drive $108.00 Microsoft Windows XP Pro $146.95 Subtotal: $1,038.37>>> Ill wait 4 my income tax 2 get that At this time i only got $500-550 4 a Comp Yes my PC right now flys on the games i play I get around 115-120 fps on UT with the Dh drivers Mabey ill get my bro a new comp I dont know much about Cumputers cause when P4 came out thats when i got my comp lol I was like P4!!!!!! But my bros comp i think is slower then mine here is his specs E-Machine Intel Celaron 2.6Ghz(Or its 2.4Ghz i dont really know lol) 40GB HardDrive 512Ram ATI 9250 PCI 128MB Windows XP Home Edition Emachine Brand T6524 CPU-AMD Athlon 64 3500+Processor (64-bit with AMD64 Technology) (512KB L2 cache,2.20Ghz,2000Mhz FSB) OS-Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 ChipSet-ATI RS482 Memory-1024MB DDR (2x512MB),400MHZ Dual Channel Expandable to 4GB HardDrive-200GB (7200 RPM,2MB cache) So would this 1 be better 4 him? Cause he is always saying he is lagging and his screen shakes And On games he does warp around alot lol Ty 4 your time

Dec 15, 2005, 06:28 AM	#11
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	For $300, you can't get a whole lot. sure, it'll be better than what your brother has now, but it won't be anything fantastic. well, at least to today's standards. and like rasta has stated, see if you can build your own machine. it's not very hard to do so. you just gotta be careful on not to fubar anything up. if you like putting stuff together, then this would be right up your alley! __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Dec 15, 2005, 07:43 AM	#13
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	the external bus is more commonly known as the FSB (Front Side Bus). It is rather slow to today's P4 processors, as a large majority of them have 800Mhz FSB. your processor has a 100Mhz FSB with a multiplier of 4 (effective 400Mhz FSB), but like i just said, today's CPUs are 800Mhz (200Mhz w/ multiplier of 4). __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Dec 18, 2005, 10:37 PM	#19
waterloo Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 337 Rep Power: 0	DO NOT BUY FROM THOSE PEOPLE (DELL, HP, COMPAQ) etc.. THey are a pain in the ass when it comes to upgrading, and a pain in the ass for RMAs, problem solving etc. Build you own! __________________ Motherboard: DFI Lan Party UT nF4 Ultra-D Modded to SLI Bios: 07/06/05 (File name - 704-2bt) CPU Cooler: Aritc Freezer 64 CPU: AMD 64 3800 Memory: OCZ 2GB Graphics Processor: ASUS EN6200GE Hard Drives: 2 X 160 IDE Western Digital, 320 SATA, 16GB SCSI Power Supply: Enermax Noisetaker 480 Watt Case:Antec CS600 Tower Case Sound Card: M-Audio Revolution 7.1/SB LIVE/SB X-FI Optical Drive: 2 X LG GSA-4167B

Dec 12, 2005, 08:22 PM	#3
Vikingod Int'l Fish Liaison Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: By the light of lamp I sit and type... Posts: 16,197 Rep Power: 112 System Specs	well, the emachines one only has onboard video, so that would hit the games quite a bit. There is however a pci express slot available, so you can always buy another video card. As far as a percentage goes... no idea (probably wont get one, very hard to do). With the games you pay, I doubt you will see any read improvement, as those games run very well (I assume) on the machine you currently have. For future games, a decent video card would get you playing just about anything you want for a while. edit: I also agree with Rasta, its always better to build your own machine. Its easy as pie, and saves you loads of cash.

Dec 12, 2005, 09:38 PM	#6
Vikingod Int'l Fish Liaison Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: By the light of lamp I sit and type... Posts: 16,197 Rep Power: 112 System Specs	Again, the systems video card is lacking, so your brothers performance would probably not get any better in games. Yes the processor and RAm is better, but GPU is what matters in games.

Dec 13, 2005, 01:35 AM	Thread Starter #7
NinjaFrag DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	Yes he was going 2 get a PCI-eX card 4 that new comp I think he wanted a Geforce 256mb 6xxx line GPU?? i have no idea what that is lol Your talking 2 some1 who is Computer dumb

Dec 15, 2005, 04:36 AM	Thread Starter #8
NinjaFrag DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	ok guys iv been looking at websites and everything 4 the last 2-3 days trying 2 find a ok computer 2 buy 4 my bro. Iv came up with this 1 http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/sh...#defaultAnchor and im going 2 get a ATI x600 pro 256mb pci-e video card my question is can this computer run that video card? and will it run games like UT99,Diablo2 LoD and UT2k4? and will it be better then his current pc ill post his specs again if u dont want2 reread everything His Current PC 512 Ram 2.6Ghz Intel Celeron 9250 pci video card 40gb hard drive im sorry if im repeating myself i know if u make 1 your self its better im thinking of making 1 in the near furture btw this is going 2 be his xmis gift Ty 4 your time

Dec 15, 2005, 06:19 AM	Thread Starter #10
NinjaFrag DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	W2646 i think thats it got it at walmart 4 like $300

Dec 15, 2005, 06:35 AM	Thread Starter #12
NinjaFrag DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	lol yeah at that time it was his 1st comp and wanted 2 play UT with me can some1 tell me what this is Intel Pentium 4, 2000 MHz 100MHz external bus the external bus thing

Dec 16, 2005, 01:51 AM	Thread Starter #15
NinjaFrag DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	ahh ty 4 the time u took 2 look into that ill call them friday afternoon

Dec 18, 2005, 08:21 PM	Thread Starter #18
NinjaFrag DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	My inlaw bought a Gateway pc with a pci-e slot and he just orderd a x300 ati card i was looking at the specs 4 that card and it says somehting about having pci express x16 lane native support but on his comp it has pci-e dosent say 16x or anything so would that card work 4 him? also yes i bought the 2 thngs u posted about the emachine upgrades cant wait 4 those parts

Dec 18, 2005, 11:40 PM	#20
Pesticle DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 155 Rep Power: 0	Yeah. I bought a vaio. Did a case transplant, and since then have upgraded the mobo and graphics. All further upgrades are going to be a breeze now.

Dec 19, 2005, 04:18 AM	Thread Starter #21
NinjaFrag DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 32 Rep Power: 0	Yeah i will build my own when i get my income tax in and i did tell my inlaw not 2 buy a Gateway cause i think they suck 4 games but he did, also he bought a x300 from ebay and im guessing it wont work cause it says you need a pci-e 16x slot we dont even know what he has, just says pci-e lol

Dec 19, 2005, 08:54 PM	#22
Kinyin DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 31 Rep Power: 0	My family purchased 3 emachines and they all deteriorated rapidly. They have horrible support for their products and they are of poor quality IMO.