939 Opterons going away

PandaZ3 · Dec 13, 2005, 01:53 AM

You can read the news

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=28250

The Opterons are like the Socket A mobiles were, I was late to the Mobile Movement, (I did get two 2600's) so I need to have at least one Opteron. I went immediately to ZipZoomFly and ordered a in stock 148 for $238 US with 2 day FedEx free.

ZZF has 146 and 165 (Dual Core) on backorder. 144,148,150,152 in stock.

But they have one less 148 now!

Monarch computers has them too.

Lowfat · Dec 13, 2005, 06:51 AM

I posted this in the news section 4 or so days ago

PandaZ3 · Dec 13, 2005, 01:12 PM

Sorry for the re-post... still it gets some exposure.... that might be helpful to someone.

swimtech · Dec 13, 2005, 01:26 PM

There's still some speculation on the whether and the why as of today...

For some interesting reading on the subject, head on over and read Ed Stroligo's commentary at

Overclockers

Remember, the articles are still speculation - I don't think AMD has come out and said 'no more'...

Drakon · Dec 13, 2005, 10:41 PM

Here's the thing. Is it really smart buying an opty since AMD is supposedly stopping production? I mean if you happen to buy one, it dies (heaven forbid) and AMD no longer makes it, then what would you get as a replacement? A X2 Processor of equivalent speeds?

Btw, how much of a performance boost does having 1MB of cache (on each processor for the dual core versions) give VS the 512K of cache on the X2 processors?

PandaZ3 · Dec 14, 2005, 01:07 AM

I saw a noticeable increase in smoothness with my Socket A Mobiles which I attributed (Perhaps wrongly) to the 512 vs the 256 L2 cache.

I am not sure, but I expect AMD hangs on to a supply of discontinued CPUs to support the market. I only had one CPU go bad and that was a XP2600 (Small Cache), AMD did replace it with a XP2700. I am not yet a dual core fan, maybe later.

swimtech · Dec 14, 2005, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Drakon

...Btw, how much of a performance boost does having 1MB of cache (on each processor for the dual core versions) give VS the 512K of cache on the X2 processors?

Probably quite a bit, look at the performance of the Pentium M processors (2M cache!) compared to performance for a desktop pentium 4 (512K or 1mb cache) - in certain applications the Pentium M can run with P4s that clock 500+ Mhz faster or more.

The 6xx series just released recently have 2mb cache as well now.

In theory, a large cache makes a larger difference in processors with deep pipelines, as the P4 series does (20+ stages deep). Athlon processors don't have pipes as deep - I think they are like 12 or 14 (one of those numbers sticks in my head from somewhere...) stages deep.

Lowfat · Dec 14, 2005, 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swimtech

Probably quite a bit, look at the performance of the Pentium M processors (2M cache!) compared to performance for a desktop pentium 4 (512K or 1mb cache) - in certain applications the Pentium M can run with P4s that clock 500+ Mhz faster or more.

Its not only the cache that helps with the Pentium M, it has a shorter pipeline which helps with certain tasks.

PandaZ3 · Dec 14, 2005, 08:38 PM

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...213122715.html

Well at least they got me to buy one!

Dec 13, 2005, 01:53 AM	#1
PandaZ3 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cornelius, Oregon Posts: 419 Rep Power: 0	939 Opterons going away You can read the news http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=28250 The Opterons are like the Socket A mobiles were, I was late to the Mobile Movement, (I did get two 2600's) so I need to have at least one Opteron. I went immediately to ZipZoomFly and ordered a in stock 148 for $238 US with 2 day FedEx free. ZZF has 146 and 165 (Dual Core) on backorder. 144,148,150,152 in stock. But they have one less 148 now! Monarch computers has them too. __________________ It has to be Plugged In? To electricity? Video cards in house, 5770, 4650, HD 3870, X1950 XTX, X1900 XTX, X1900 XT and X1900 Crossfire, 2 X1800 XT's, X850 Pro, X800 Pro, AIW 9600XT, 9600 Pro, 9550 SE, 9200, 7000. XFX 6800 GS

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Dec 13, 2005, 01:12 PM	Thread Starter #3
PandaZ3 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cornelius, Oregon Posts: 419 Rep Power: 0	Sorry for the re-post... still it gets some exposure.... that might be helpful to someone. __________________ It has to be Plugged In? To electricity? Video cards in house, 5770, 4650, HD 3870, X1950 XTX, X1900 XTX, X1900 XT and X1900 Crossfire, 2 X1800 XT's, X850 Pro, X800 Pro, AIW 9600XT, 9600 Pro, 9550 SE, 9200, 7000. XFX 6800 GS

Dec 13, 2005, 01:26 PM	#4
swimtech HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,040 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	There's still some speculation on the whether and the why as of today... For some interesting reading on the subject, head on over and read Ed Stroligo's commentary at Overclockers Remember, the articles are still speculation - I don't think AMD has come out and said 'no more'... __________________ It's not so much getting your way that matters or not - what matters is how you go about getting it.

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Drakon DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Floatin'... Posts: 4,957 Rep Power: 0	Here's the thing. Is it really smart buying an opty since AMD is supposedly stopping production? I mean if you happen to buy one, it dies (heaven forbid) and AMD no longer makes it, then what would you get as a replacement? A X2 Processor of equivalent speeds? Btw, how much of a performance boost does having 1MB of cache (on each processor for the dual core versions) give VS the 512K of cache on the X2 processors? Last edited by Drakon; Dec 13, 2005 at 10:51 PM.

Dec 14, 2005, 01:07 AM	Thread Starter #6
PandaZ3 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cornelius, Oregon Posts: 419 Rep Power: 0	I saw a noticeable increase in smoothness with my Socket A Mobiles which I attributed (Perhaps wrongly) to the 512 vs the 256 L2 cache. I am not sure, but I expect AMD hangs on to a supply of discontinued CPUs to support the market. I only had one CPU go bad and that was a XP2600 (Small Cache), AMD did replace it with a XP2700. I am not yet a dual core fan, maybe later. __________________ It has to be Plugged In? To electricity? Video cards in house, 5770, 4650, HD 3870, X1950 XTX, X1900 XTX, X1900 XT and X1900 Crossfire, 2 X1800 XT's, X850 Pro, X800 Pro, AIW 9600XT, 9600 Pro, 9550 SE, 9200, 7000. XFX 6800 GS

Dec 14, 2005, 08:38 PM	Thread Starter #9
PandaZ3 HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cornelius, Oregon Posts: 419 Rep Power: 0	http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...213122715.html Well at least they got me to buy one! __________________ It has to be Plugged In? To electricity? Video cards in house, 5770, 4650, HD 3870, X1950 XTX, X1900 XTX, X1900 XT and X1900 Crossfire, 2 X1800 XT's, X850 Pro, X800 Pro, AIW 9600XT, 9600 Pro, 9550 SE, 9200, 7000. XFX 6800 GS