Building a New Rig What should I do?

call · Jan 15, 2003, 12:26 AM

Wait for the Hammer or just go along with an Athlon XP.

I want to build a computer that THe only ugrade I would need in a few years is either Ram or A video card should I wait for Hammer or Go with an XP

ToshiroOC · Jan 15, 2003, 12:31 AM

If your current computer just doesn't cut it, I would suggest waiting until Prescott and Hammers are out in force and mature motherboards are out for both... the K7 proc (XP) is seeing it's sunset - it had a good run, but its starting to get somewhat dated... I would say Hammer...

tigerarmyAFI · Jan 15, 2003, 12:44 AM

i would wait till hammer chips had been out for at least a year before i bought one, id like to see some benchmarks and price drops before id commit to a whole new platform...

i dont beleive that anyone will really need anything more speed-wise than a high-end athlonXP for a few years yet, programs and games are just not that advanced, and are becoming more dependant on dedicaded hardware, such as video and audio processors.

my advice is that you go for a cheaper processor, such as an athonXP 2100+ and invest in a high-end graphics card and sound card.

DriveEuro · Jan 15, 2003, 02:50 AM

Look at it this way. Pick up an Athlon 2000 for under $100 and use it for about a year and then sell it. Buy a Hammer when it's cheap. Are you that psyched to buy a brand new processor at that high of a price...it'll be about $400. PLUS a motherboard.

Jeff · Jan 15, 2003, 04:06 AM

Thread moved..

Msm80 · Jan 15, 2003, 04:17 PM

I am waiting on the Hammer. My XP 1800 is working just fine. I will build a new system when Hammer prices come down and is proven to perform well.

Good luck.

JavaFox · Jan 15, 2003, 05:09 PM

Just overclock your 1800+ when it starts feeling slow.

jp306 · Jan 15, 2003, 10:19 PM

I would just buy an Athon xp 2000+ or higher MB combo for around $100 for now and the vid card of your choice and you should be good for a year or so and then do it again

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Krazach · Jan 16, 2003, 02:12 AM

I would definitely wait for the hammers. AMD is supposedly shooting for at least 2 GHz with their hammer release about a quarter from now, so it should be nice. I'm waiting through a 1.33 Tbird. It hasn't really seemed too slow yet, but I still can't wait for the hammers.

DriveEuro · Jan 16, 2003, 02:22 AM

What's the point in paying full price for a new processor? Wait like 4 months and get it cheaper.

dicchicora · Jan 16, 2003, 11:20 PM

Impulse buying is always in effect when buying computer related hardware. I did however, just buy an AthlonXP 2000+, and it was a big improvement over my Athlon T-Bird 1Ghz. As of right now, I have no plans on upgrading to a Hammer when they're available. Although, as I read the reviews, I'm sure I'll be drooling and wishing I had one.

ULtRaXP · Jan 17, 2003, 12:32 AM

Just get a system with a mobo that SUPPORTS a hammer.. but use an athlon XP with it.. This way, when hammers become mainstream, you'll be able to use it.

ToshiroOC · Jan 17, 2003, 12:43 AM

Er, Hammer is NOT going to be Socket A - it is going to have its own 753 pin socket, and you most definitely wouldn't be able to use an Athlon XP in a hammer board...

ULtRaXP · Jan 17, 2003, 01:01 AM

err..apologies for the mistake...just a conceptual suggestion

**Roadee** · Feb 4, 2003, 12:08 PM

If you really have your heart set on owning a Hammer, as it seems you do, wait for it. But if you need a little speed now, check out the prices for the varios parts that you may need, and build up something to tide you over. Then when the hammer comes out and is actually doing what it is expected to do, sell the temp system to a friend that needs an upgrade. Maybe your system is just what they need as a "step up".

Aspect · Feb 4, 2003, 12:40 PM

Im getting a 2600+ for my new rig this month. Its plenty to keep my going for a few yeard. By then the hammer should be out and cheaper.

Jan 15, 2003, 12:26 AM	#1
call DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	Building a New Rig What should I do? Wait for the Hammer or just go along with an Athlon XP. I want to build a computer that THe only ugrade I would need in a few years is either Ram or A video card should I wait for Hammer or Go with an XP

Jan 15, 2003, 12:31 AM	#2
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	If your current computer just doesn't cut it, I would suggest waiting until Prescott and Hammers are out in force and mature motherboards are out for both... the K7 proc (XP) is seeing it's sunset - it had a good run, but its starting to get somewhat dated... I would say Hammer... __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Jan 15, 2003, 12:44 AM	#3
tigerarmyAFI DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: England Posts: 111 Rep Power: 0	i would wait till hammer chips had been out for at least a year before i bought one, id like to see some benchmarks and price drops before id commit to a whole new platform... i dont beleive that anyone will really need anything more speed-wise than a high-end athlonXP for a few years yet, programs and games are just not that advanced, and are becoming more dependant on dedicaded hardware, such as video and audio processors. my advice is that you go for a cheaper processor, such as an athonXP 2100+ and invest in a high-end graphics card and sound card. __________________ AMD AthlonXP 1800+ ThoroughBred B JIUHB @ 2137MHz Geforce4 Ti 4200 128Mb @ 310/600 (ASUS V8420) ABIT KX-7 333 v1.1 512Mb Micron PC2700 DDR Creative Live! 5.1 Aircooled (45c Full load)

Jan 15, 2003, 02:50 AM	#4
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Look at it this way. Pick up an Athlon 2000 for under $100 and use it for about a year and then sell it. Buy a Hammer when it's cheap. Are you that psyched to buy a brand new processor at that high of a price...it'll be about $400. PLUS a motherboard. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 15, 2003, 04:06 AM	#5
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Jan 15, 2003, 04:17 PM	#6
Msm80 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 31 Rep Power: 0	I am waiting on the Hammer. My XP 1800 is working just fine. I will build a new system when Hammer prices come down and is proven to perform well. Good luck.

Jan 15, 2003, 05:09 PM	#7
JavaFox E Pluribus Unum Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,203 Rep Power: 0	Just overclock your 1800+ when it starts feeling slow.

Jan 15, 2003, 10:19 PM	#8
jp306 DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 309 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I would just buy an Athon xp 2000+ or higher MB combo for around $100 for now and the vid card of your choice and you should be good for a year or so and then do it again ECS K7s5a MB AMD Xp1700 @1.613Ghz 256meg of SDram PC133 Geforce4 ti4200 at 275/575 19" NEC Multisync FE950 SB Live value 30Gig WD 7200rmp ATA 100 harddrive Bios Honey X 021029 set @ 147/147 Volcano 6cu+ cooler 7000rpm 465watt psu

Jan 16, 2003, 02:12 AM	#9
Krazach DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	I would definitely wait for the hammers. AMD is supposedly shooting for at least 2 GHz with their hammer release about a quarter from now, so it should be nice. I'm waiting through a 1.33 Tbird. It hasn't really seemed too slow yet, but I still can't wait for the hammers. __________________ -Krazach

Jan 16, 2003, 02:22 AM	#10
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	What's the point in paying full price for a new processor? Wait like 4 months and get it cheaper. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 16, 2003, 11:20 PM	#11
dicchicora DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	Impulse buying is always in effect when buying computer related hardware. I did however, just buy an AthlonXP 2000+, and it was a big improvement over my Athlon T-Bird 1Ghz. As of right now, I have no plans on upgrading to a Hammer when they're available. Although, as I read the reviews, I'm sure I'll be drooling and wishing I had one.

Jan 17, 2003, 12:32 AM	#12
ULtRaXP DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: KJ Selangor Malaysia Posts: 36 Rep Power: 0	Just get a system with a mobo that SUPPORTS a hammer.. but use an athlon XP with it.. This way, when hammers become mainstream, you'll be able to use it.

Jan 17, 2003, 12:43 AM	#13
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	Er, Hammer is NOT going to be Socket A - it is going to have its own 753 pin socket, and you most definitely wouldn't be able to use an Athlon XP in a hammer board... __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Jan 17, 2003, 01:01 AM	#14
ULtRaXP DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: KJ Selangor Malaysia Posts: 36 Rep Power: 0	err..apologies for the mistake...just a conceptual suggestion

Feb 4, 2003, 12:08 PM	#15
Roadee Never forgotten Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Rest In peace, Joe. Posts: 2,198 Rep Power: 69	If you really have your heart set on owning a Hammer, as it seems you do, wait for it. But if you need a little speed now, check out the prices for the varios parts that you may need, and build up something to tide you over. Then when the hammer comes out and is actually doing what it is expected to do, sell the temp system to a friend that needs an upgrade. Maybe your system is just what they need as a "step up". __________________ We are born naked, wet, and hungry. Then things get worse.

Feb 4, 2003, 12:40 PM	#16
Aspect "Amusing Comment Here" Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Birmingham UK Posts: 232 Rep Power: 0	Im getting a 2600+ for my new rig this month. Its plenty to keep my going for a few yeard. By then the hammer should be out and cheaper. __________________