New mouse?

e!i · Jan 5, 2006, 09:49 PM

I have a microsoft intelli optical, i think its 125Mhz, polling rate 100/200, not sure lol, im thinking of buying a new mouse, g5, mx 518, should i? What benefits would i get, i mean cant i just turn up the sensitivity on my current mouse and get the same effect as 1600 dpi?!
I play fps alot, mohaa sniper, and i have css, but not got into it yet, so would one of those newer 'gaming' mice aid me, or is it just more fools gold?

Grace · Jan 6, 2006, 12:36 AM

If you play many FPS games, do yourself a favor and buy a G5.

Advantages could be:

Better handling. (much better mouse design and sliding)
Better accurancy. (WAY better than your current mouse)
You can change the DPI, hence the speed, on-the-fly. Thus you can change the mouse speed in-game, depending on what you are currently doing at the time.
You can adjust the weight of the mouse. (That's somewhat silly)

I see no disadvantage, except the 'learning' period that your hand will need to adjust.

Zelig · Jan 6, 2006, 02:35 AM

If you turn the sensitivity up on your mouse, it skips pixels.

For windows sense outside of games:
minimum = 1 pixel of movement per 2 mouse inputs
half-way = 1 pixel of movement per mouse input
maximum = 2 pixels of movement per mouse input

The only way to get around this inability for precision at low speeds is by using acceleration, which many gamers tend not to favour.

Your choice, I really prefer the feel of nice mice, but your best bet is probably to get a chance to try it out yourself and see if it's worth it, if you go to a large store, some salesman should be happy to oblige you and let you try one out.

cheese_thief · Jan 6, 2006, 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zelig

If you turn the sensitivity up on your mouse, it skips pixels.

For windows sense outside of games:
minimum = 1 pixel of movement per 2 mouse inputs
half-way = 1 pixel of movement per mouse input
maximum = 2 pixels of movement per mouse input

I recommend setting it at the halfway point for any mouse, as some games don't use DirectInput, and that means that Windows mouse sensitivity will affect the game's mouse movement. That can create anomalies when you have Windows sensitivity at anything but halfway or all the way (10 & 20 in the registry at HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Mouse\MouseSensitivity).

I went from a IME1.0a to a 1600dpi Diamondback (with a FUNC pad

) and I would never consider going back to a non-gaming mouse. You can turn the sensitivity down and make fast wide movents with lots of precision.

Logitech and Razer make the gaming mouses worth buying (IME3 is great, but it's slightly old and technology has passed it by).

soloz2 · Jan 7, 2006, 09:09 PM

yeah, when gaming you will notice a huge difference bt/wn a 'regular' optical mouse and a gaming mouse. I stepped up from a microsoft intellimouse to a logitech mx700 and saw a differene (neither gaming grade) and then I went from the mx700 to a mx518 and will never go back... it's all gaming grademice for me from now on.

e!i · Jan 7, 2006, 10:24 PM

Yes, i bought the mx518 and im very happy. When i tracked from point a to b with the intelli, it would take 5 movements, with the 518 its more than doubled, therefore crosshair precision has increased, needless to say im a happy bunny.

ronnn · Feb 19, 2006, 10:46 AM

Well I am in the same place, G5 or MX518. So which is best and is there a noticable difference? The MX518 is a $20.00 canadian cheaper. Also are these things bright? I ask as the gaming mouse will sit off to the side often and I will use my cheap cordless for other stuff.

edit: Just noticed the G5 is on sale for $5.00 more. The G7 is $35.00 more.

Necrosis · Feb 20, 2006, 05:46 AM

I say G5 over the MX518. Once you update the firmware just about nothing can touch it. If you want the cordless feel pick up a Mouse Bungee or one of those mouse weights.

Drakon · Feb 20, 2006, 06:03 AM

The G5 looks like a really nice mouse, but since it's only got one side button, that's a big minus for me. That 2nd button comes in really handy in gaming, so my vote goes to the MX518

Razgriz · Feb 20, 2006, 06:14 AM

Indeed, i love having the second mouse button on the right side, i usually bind em to reload and switch fire rate

pr0digal jenius · Feb 20, 2006, 06:21 AM

I'm happy with my mx1000 laser mouse, but the G5 is very nice as well....i still think the mx1000 is much better for those like me with big hands from an ergonomics standpoint

ronnn · Feb 20, 2006, 06:56 AM

Was ready to pull the plug for the G5, but now am thinking about those extra buttons - that I may or may not ever use.

Drakon · Feb 20, 2006, 07:04 AM

The extra buttons come in handy for gaming as I can assign frequently used actions to them. Plus when browsing the net, it's pretty cool to go forward or backward on the fly. I just don't see the sense in having one back button, but no forward button.

ronnn · Feb 21, 2006, 06:13 AM

Ok, I got the G5 - as a good price happened. Hope I don't get buyer's remorse. Thanks for the responses.

ronnn · Feb 21, 2006, 06:43 AM

On my search the other day, I found a post alluding to Zardon's reccomended settings for gaming. Can't find it now, can anyone point me to it? Thanks

Jan 5, 2006, 09:49 PM	#1
e!i DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: London Posts: 138 Rep Power: 0	New mouse? I have a microsoft intelli optical, i think its 125Mhz, polling rate 100/200, not sure lol, im thinking of buying a new mouse, g5, mx 518, should i? What benefits would i get, i mean cant i just turn up the sensitivity on my current mouse and get the same effect as 1600 dpi?! I play fps alot, mohaa sniper, and i have css, but not got into it yet, so would one of those newer 'gaming' mice aid me, or is it just more fools gold?

Jan 6, 2006, 02:35 AM	#3
Zelig HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,187 Rep Power: 71 System Specs	If you turn the sensitivity up on your mouse, it skips pixels. For windows sense outside of games: minimum = 1 pixel of movement per 2 mouse inputs half-way = 1 pixel of movement per mouse input maximum = 2 pixels of movement per mouse input The only way to get around this inability for precision at low speeds is by using acceleration, which many gamers tend not to favour. Your choice, I really prefer the feel of nice mice, but your best bet is probably to get a chance to try it out yourself and see if it's worth it, if you go to a large store, some salesman should be happy to oblige you and let you try one out. __________________ --

Jan 7, 2006, 09:09 PM	#5
soloz2 DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 362 Rep Power: 0	yeah, when gaming you will notice a huge difference bt/wn a 'regular' optical mouse and a gaming mouse. I stepped up from a microsoft intellimouse to a logitech mx700 and saw a differene (neither gaming grade) and then I went from the mx700 to a mx518 and will never go back... it's all gaming grademice for me from now on. __________________ [COLOR=gray][COLOR=red]CPU:[/COLOR] AMD Opteron 165 CCBBE @ 2.8Ghz [/COLOR] [COLOR=gray][COLOR=red]Motherboard:[/COLOR] DFI nF4 SLI-DR Expert [COLOR=red]Memory:[/COLOR] 2gb G.Skill F1-4000USU2-2 [COLOR=red]Video:[/COLOR] Asus 7900GT TOP @ 700/1700 [COLOR=red]Sound:[/COLOR] Modded X-Fi Elite Pro [COLOR=red]HD:[/COLOR] 2x Seagate 250Gb RAID 0, 1 Seagate 320Gb [COLOR=red]Optical Drives:[/COLOR] Sony DVD-Rom, Plextor 16x DVD DL RW [COLOR=red]Case:[/COLOR] CM Stacker [COLOR=red]PSU:[/COLOR] PC Power & Cooling Silencer 610 [COLOR=red]Cooling:[/COLOR] Custom Water [COLOR=yellow][COLOR=red]Keyboard/Mouse:[/COLOR] [/COLOR]Saitec Eclipse & Logitech MX518 with a Razer ExactMat mouse pad [COLOR=red]Sound:[/COLOR] Modded X-fi > Soloz Audio Silver IC > Maxed PIMETA > Beyer DT 770 Pro/80 cans [COLOR=red]HTPC:[/COLOR] [/COLOR][COLOR=gray]AMD 3800X2[/COLOR][COLOR=gray], Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe, G.Skill 2GB DDR400, MSI 6600GT, Haupauge PVR150, SB [/COLOR][COLOR=gray]Audigy 2ZS[/COLOR][COLOR=gray], Samsung 16x DVD DL RW, Sunbeam Nuuo PSU, Antec P180 case, AC Freezer64 Pro, Viewsonic N2750w LCD HDTV Heatware eBay [/COLOR]

Feb 19, 2006, 10:46 AM	#7
ronnn DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 617 Rep Power: 0	Well I am in the same place, G5 or MX518. So which is best and is there a noticable difference? The MX518 is a $20.00 canadian cheaper. Also are these things bright? I ask as the gaming mouse will sit off to the side often and I will use my cheap cordless for other stuff. edit: Just noticed the G5 is on sale for $5.00 more. The G7 is $35.00 more. Last edited by ronnn; Feb 19, 2006 at 06:29 PM.

Jan 6, 2006, 12:36 AM	#2
Grace HH's Tomboy Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Anywhere but in my house! Posts: 776 Rep Power: 56	If you play many FPS games, do yourself a favor and buy a G5. Advantages could be: Better handling. (much better mouse design and sliding) Better accurancy. (WAY better than your current mouse) You can change the DPI, hence the speed, on-the-fly. Thus you can change the mouse speed in-game, depending on what you are currently doing at the time. You can adjust the weight of the mouse. (That's somewhat silly) I see no disadvantage, except the 'learning' period that your hand will need to adjust.

Jan 7, 2006, 10:24 PM	Thread Starter #6
e!i DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: London Posts: 138 Rep Power: 0	Yes, i bought the mx518 and im very happy. When i tracked from point a to b with the intelli, it would take 5 movements, with the 518 its more than doubled, therefore crosshair precision has increased, needless to say im a happy bunny.

Feb 20, 2006, 05:46 AM	#8
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,838 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	I say G5 over the MX518. Once you update the firmware just about nothing can touch it. If you want the cordless feel pick up a Mouse Bungee or one of those mouse weights.

Feb 20, 2006, 06:03 AM	#9
Drakon DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Floatin'... Posts: 4,957 Rep Power: 0	The G5 looks like a really nice mouse, but since it's only got one side button, that's a big minus for me. That 2nd button comes in really handy in gaming, so my vote goes to the MX518

Feb 20, 2006, 06:14 AM	#10
Razgriz Intelligence? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: On the edge of insanity Posts: 1,183 Rep Power: 55	Indeed, i love having the second mouse button on the right side, i usually bind em to reload and switch fire rate

Feb 20, 2006, 06:21 AM	#11
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	I'm happy with my mx1000 laser mouse, but the G5 is very nice as well....i still think the mx1000 is much better for those like me with big hands from an ergonomics standpoint

Feb 20, 2006, 06:56 AM	#12
ronnn DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 617 Rep Power: 0	Was ready to pull the plug for the G5, but now am thinking about those extra buttons - that I may or may not ever use.

Feb 20, 2006, 07:04 AM	#13
Drakon DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Floatin'... Posts: 4,957 Rep Power: 0	The extra buttons come in handy for gaming as I can assign frequently used actions to them. Plus when browsing the net, it's pretty cool to go forward or backward on the fly. I just don't see the sense in having one back button, but no forward button.

Feb 21, 2006, 06:13 AM	#14
ronnn DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 617 Rep Power: 0	Ok, I got the G5 - as a good price happened. Hope I don't get buyer's remorse. Thanks for the responses.

Feb 21, 2006, 06:43 AM	#15
ronnn DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 617 Rep Power: 0	On my search the other day, I found a post alluding to Zardon's reccomended settings for gaming. Can't find it now, can anyone point me to it? Thanks