High-end AMD or Intel?

Zarathustra · Jan 21, 2003, 11:37 PM

Ok guys I'm consolidating down to a single machine (don't ask why) and need to make a decision. Do I go high-end AMD or Intel? Right now I have a XP1600+@1800mhz in a Epox 8K3A+ (KT333). I was thinking of selling that and going with a Asus P4G8X Deluxe (Granite Bay) and then either a 2.4B or handpick a 1.8 C1 locally (would be the same price). Of course I could save some cash and just throw a 2600+ into my current mobo. Or I could wait till the Bartons come out. Or I could wait till HT is enabled in low speed P4s and get the Granite Bay combo then. Thoughts?

I don't want people to answer with things like "Intel sucks" or "P4", I want justification along with the comments. Such posts will be deleted

Ryoko · Jan 21, 2003, 11:55 PM

intel sucks.

you know your situation better than we do, and we all know that the longer you wait, the less you'll pay but the less you'll get.

if i were you, i'd get the faster athlon to tide you over until all the major hitters are released, and the prices for everyhing goes down.

p4.

Zardon · Jan 22, 2003, 12:35 AM

money no object P4 3 gig. highest performing CPU on the market.

if you want a bargain get a 2400 XP. overclock it to 2200mhz easy. get equivalent performance generally to a 2.8 gig P4.

WyreTheWolf · Jan 22, 2003, 01:34 AM

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Originally posted by Zardon
money no object P4 3 gig. highest performing CPU on the market.

if you want a bargain get a 2400 XP. overclock it to 2200mhz easy. get equivalent performance generally to a 2.8 gig P4.

agreed... Personally P4 is too much for my blood, a 3GHz P4 is around 600 dollars. I can get a new motherboard, ram, cpu from AMD for that.

Zarathustra · Jan 22, 2003, 03:04 AM

Well my problem is that I had to sell my pride and joy Xeon box, so I would really like to have a little SMP lovin' again. Dual Athlons are just not fast enough. So that leaves Intel. Dual Socket 603/604 Xeons aren't too expensive, but the corresponding motherboard is $400+! Enter Hyperthreading. Dual logical CPUs would satisfy me, but there's no way I'll throw down $600 for a 3.06. So that means waiting till someone figures out how to enable HT in other Northwoods or just wait till Intel releases the lower speed HT CPUs. I'm really in that mood where I want something NOW!

DriveEuro · Jan 22, 2003, 03:33 AM

Personally I'd buy a Intel 2.something....maybe the 2.4 and do a reasonable overclock on it. Maybe up to 3 GB.....that's sufficient.

nForcer · Jan 24, 2003, 06:45 AM

I know its cheesy, but - 'you get what you pay for' You'll make the right decision.

Marks · Jan 24, 2003, 02:46 PM

High Performance -> INTEL

DriveEuro · Jan 24, 2003, 04:11 PM

AMD = High performance too. So what is your point?

blackdog · Jan 24, 2003, 06:08 PM

Same situation looking seriously at 2.4 or 2.53 Intel. to replace my aging t-bird

mbeeston · Jan 25, 2003, 12:17 AM

high end is currently intel.. you want it.. go get it.. can i have one too?

WyreTheWolf · Jan 25, 2003, 12:43 AM

2800+, and 3000+ Barton cores will be out in the next few weeks. with 512KB of L2 Cache No longer will Intel hold that over AMD's head. Personally, I would wait and see the benchies.

ThA_Gr81 · Jan 25, 2003, 02:48 AM

intel

reno · Jan 25, 2003, 11:26 PM

A 2.533B is a great processor to buy right now, cheap, fast, overclocks like a mother with the latest stepping, PLUS, if you have DDR ram, a granite bay will save you TONS of money and perform as well in games and some apps as a PC1066 based system...if your sticks are matched.

I'd go with the Gigabyte GB though, faster, more stable, more overclockable, more features...but 20 bucks more expensive than ASUS.

If you go AMD, get a Tbred 2400+, OC it and get an nForce 2. Again, you save money on ram and it's hella fast.

reno · Jan 25, 2003, 11:26 PM

A 2.533B is a great processor to buy right now, cheap, fast, overclocks like a mother with the latest stepping, PLUS, if you have DDR ram, a granite bay will save you TONS of money and perform as well in games and some apps as a PC1066 based system...if your sticks are matched.

I'd go with the Gigabyte GB though, faster, more stable, more overclockable, more features...but 20 bucks more expensive than ASUS.

If you go AMD, get a Tbred 2400+, OC it and get an nForce 2. Again, you save money on ram and it's hella fast.

jp306 · Jan 25, 2003, 11:38 PM

AMD all the way. I would just get a new cpu for now.
AMD = good performance great price
Intel = good performance and bend over

DriveEuro · Jan 26, 2003, 12:02 AM

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Originally posted by jp306
Intel = good performance and bend over

What a great line.

WildChild · Jan 30, 2003, 12:47 AM

your paying for a name in my opinion...im runnin a xp 2700+ 2.17GHZ and ill match it speed for speed stock with a 2.5 pentium ...wait for the barton chips youll be happier in the end ...

Jan 21, 2003, 11:37 PM	#1
Zarathustra Elite Bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Confederacy Posts: 841 Rep Power: 0	High-end AMD or Intel? Ok guys I'm consolidating down to a single machine (don't ask why) and need to make a decision. Do I go high-end AMD or Intel? Right now I have a XP1600+@1800mhz in a Epox 8K3A+ (KT333). I was thinking of selling that and going with a Asus P4G8X Deluxe (Granite Bay) and then either a 2.4B or handpick a 1.8 C1 locally (would be the same price). Of course I could save some cash and just throw a 2600+ into my current mobo. Or I could wait till the Bartons come out. Or I could wait till HT is enabled in low speed P4s and get the Granite Bay combo then. Thoughts? I don't want people to answer with things like "Intel sucks" or "P4", I want justification along with the comments. Such posts will be deleted

Jan 22, 2003, 03:33 AM	#6
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	Personally I'd buy a Intel 2.something....maybe the 2.4 and do a reasonable overclock on it. Maybe up to 3 GB.....that's sufficient. __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 24, 2003, 04:11 PM	#9
DriveEuro HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gurnee Illinois Posts: 4,677 Rep Power: 0	AMD = High performance too. So what is your point? __________________ [color=orange]ASUS P4P800 Deluxe [color=black]-[/color] 2.4C --> 3300mhz [color=black]-[/color] Mushkin PC3200 at 220 5-2-2-2 (cpu limited) [color=black]-[/color] BBAti 9800Pro at 430/375 [/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]01[/color] [color=black]3[/color][color=gray]D[/color]M[color=black]a[/color][color=gray]r[/color]k[color=yellow]03[/color] 16001200 12801024

Jan 25, 2003, 12:17 AM	#11
mbeeston HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: alberta, canada (thats north of the usa people) Posts: 1,037 Rep Power: 68 System Specs	high end is currently intel.. you want it.. go get it.. can i have one too? __________________ R.I.P Roadee - you will be missed T_T peace,love, and war... 3 things people look for... "if your going off the deep end, show off, do a cannon ball!" - me

Jan 25, 2003, 02:48 AM	#13
ThA_Gr81 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 29 Rep Power: 0	intel __________________

Jan 21, 2003, 11:55 PM	#2
Ryoko American Soldier Join Date: May 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA Posts: 1,725 Rep Power: 0	intel sucks. you know your situation better than we do, and we all know that the longer you wait, the less you'll pay but the less you'll get. if i were you, i'd get the faster athlon to tide you over until all the major hitters are released, and the prices for everyhing goes down. p4.

Jan 22, 2003, 12:35 AM	#3
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	money no object P4 3 gig. highest performing CPU on the market. if you want a bargain get a 2400 XP. overclock it to 2200mhz easy. get equivalent performance generally to a 2.8 gig P4.

Jan 22, 2003, 03:04 AM	Thread Starter #5
Zarathustra Elite Bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Confederacy Posts: 841 Rep Power: 0	Well my problem is that I had to sell my pride and joy Xeon box, so I would really like to have a little SMP lovin' again. Dual Athlons are just not fast enough. So that leaves Intel. Dual Socket 603/604 Xeons aren't too expensive, but the corresponding motherboard is $400+! Enter Hyperthreading. Dual logical CPUs would satisfy me, but there's no way I'll throw down $600 for a 3.06. So that means waiting till someone figures out how to enable HT in other Northwoods or just wait till Intel releases the lower speed HT CPUs. I'm really in that mood where I want something NOW!

Jan 24, 2003, 06:45 AM	#7
nForcer Twice the fun! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,404 Rep Power: 0	I know its cheesy, but - 'you get what you pay for' You'll make the right decision.

Jan 24, 2003, 02:46 PM	#8
Marks DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	High Performance -> INTEL

Jan 24, 2003, 06:08 PM	#10
blackdog HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Frozen North of 49 Posts: 104 Rep Power: 0	Same situation looking seriously at 2.4 or 2.53 Intel. to replace my aging t-bird

Jan 25, 2003, 12:43 AM	#12
WyreTheWolf Wolfish Bastard Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cave; Ozark Mountains Posts: 2,110 Rep Power: 0	2800+, and 3000+ Barton cores will be out in the next few weeks. with 512KB of L2 Cache No longer will Intel hold that over AMD's head. Personally, I would wait and see the benchies.

Jan 25, 2003, 11:26 PM	#14
reno Painlord of Ichor Join Date: May 2002 Location: bloinkin! Posts: 1,610 Rep Power: 0	dfg A 2.533B is a great processor to buy right now, cheap, fast, overclocks like a mother with the latest stepping, PLUS, if you have DDR ram, a granite bay will save you TONS of money and perform as well in games and some apps as a PC1066 based system...if your sticks are matched. I'd go with the Gigabyte GB though, faster, more stable, more overclockable, more features...but 20 bucks more expensive than ASUS. If you go AMD, get a Tbred 2400+, OC it and get an nForce 2. Again, you save money on ram and it's hella fast.

Jan 25, 2003, 11:38 PM	#16
jp306 DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 309 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	AMD all the way. I would just get a new cpu for now. AMD = good performance great price Intel = good performance and bend over __________________ "I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet." Rodney Dangerfield.

Jan 30, 2003, 12:47 AM	#18
WildChild I'm Still Watching Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Jersey,U.S.A. Posts: 1,068 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	intel ??? your paying for a name in my opinion...im runnin a xp 2700+ 2.17GHZ and ill match it speed for speed stock with a 2.5 pentium ...wait for the barton chips youll be happier in the end ...