SATA vs SATA II

TJ- · Feb 7, 2006, 05:22 AM

what the difference ?

im thinking of getting this

Western Digital 250G SATAII 7200 rpm HDD
Model #: WD2500JS

$50 more than SATA

Tipstaff · Feb 7, 2006, 05:48 AM

Here's something you might be interested in. CDRinfo did a comparison of SATA vs SATAII which you can read HERE. Specfically, they tested the WD2500JS SATAII drive vs the WD3000JD SATA drive.

In short, you may or may not notice it, but from the tests SATAII is "theoretically" faster in some cases. However, one thing of interest is that your board has to support SATAII. Otherwise the SATAII drive will work as a SATA drive.

One suggestion: if you can afford to pay a little more I would pickup the WD2500KS instead since it has a 16MB buffer vs the WD2500JSs 8MB. With that extra 8MB buffer you should see a little performance increase even if you use in a SATA setup.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Feb 7, 2006, 05:49 AM

If you in the USA try newegg there is virtaully no price difference
Don't get the WD anyways look for a HITACHI Deskstar T7K250 250GB
if it going to be your OS drive other wise get the samsung 120P .

have a good read
http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/09/27/round/
http://www.storagereview.com/articles/200601/250_1.html

I read some others as well each time the samsung and hitachi win out
samsung for transfer rates, hitachi for gameing prefromance
due to better acess times...

I just order a HITACHI Deskstar yesterday...

(Raptors are still king but cost to much and don't have as much space)

Dyre Straits · Feb 7, 2006, 07:01 AM

I'm using 2 Samsung SATA 160 GB drives in my system. Although my system supports RAID, I'm not using them under a RAID array. One is simply my OS/System drive and the other is for storage. Both of these have been in my system now for about a year. I'm very happy with their performance.

TJ- · Feb 7, 2006, 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tipstaff

Here's something you might be interested in. CDRinfo did a comparison of SATA vs SATAII which you can read HERE. Specfically, they tested the WD2500JS SATAII drive vs the WD3000JD SATA drive.

I couldnt fint that model but they have this one which is 16mb and $40 more.

the hitachi are expensive, dont think i can afford a decent one

i got $150-170 AUS to spend on a minimum of 250gig

Tipstaff · Feb 7, 2006, 10:18 AM

I did a bit of checking, and the WD2500KS will run you about $200 AUS dollars. Saw it at a few places online such as i-Tek, MegaPC, and Nintek which are all Aussie stores, but as you said, it's above your price range.

Question for you: The J series only has 8mb buffer, while the K series has 16mb (there is also a Y series that has 16mb too), so is someone listing it as having 16mb? If so, it could be that they are misquoting the buffer size, or they are selling the WD2500KS ,and mistaking it for the WD2500JS. I'd double check with the seller just to make sure.

TJ- · Feb 8, 2006, 02:13 AM

this might be a stupid question but how do i know for sure if i need a sata drive or an ide one?

Im using a ASUS k8v se deluxe motherboard

davidnsibs · Feb 8, 2006, 02:22 AM

You'll have both SATA and IDE connections available, so choose depending on which drive you want / how much you want to spend. SATA isnt much more, but then isnt that much quicker really, i just love it because the cables are so small in comparison :-)

TJ- · Feb 8, 2006, 02:35 AM

ok so i think im getting this one the WD2500JS ( Western Digital 250G SATAII 7200 rpm HDD)

is it easy to put in or shall i just pay for it to be installed for $30?

The_Neon_Cowboy · Feb 8, 2006, 02:46 AM

SATA2 and SATA 150 there is little difference other then theatrical or bandwidth
from the drive to the system is increased. The drive it self it still the bottle neck.
Big thing about SATA2 is NCQ which seem to improve overall performance

If you can do SATA do it as PATA controllers use more resources / cpu.
Also the very old PATA design is inefficient by comparison with the way
signals are sent and received.

TJ- · Feb 8, 2006, 02:49 AM

i just ordered the JS Sata2 (http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Revi...rticleId=16014)

i will definatly be needing some help installing this bad boy though, never done it before.

Feb 7, 2006, 05:22 AM	#1
TJ- DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Infinity Posts: 3,679 Rep Power: 0	SATA vs SATA II what the difference ? im thinking of getting this Western Digital 250G SATAII 7200 rpm HDD Model #: WD2500JS $50 more than SATA __________________ new sig comming soon

Feb 7, 2006, 05:48 AM	#2
Tipstaff HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Real capital of Canada: Torauna Posts: 6,773 Rep Power: 190 System Specs	Here's something you might be interested in. CDRinfo did a comparison of SATA vs SATAII which you can read HERE. Specfically, they tested the WD2500JS SATAII drive vs the WD3000JD SATA drive. In short, you may or may not notice it, but from the tests SATAII is "theoretically" faster in some cases. However, one thing of interest is that your board has to support SATAII. Otherwise the SATAII drive will work as a SATA drive. One suggestion: if you can afford to pay a little more I would pickup the WD2500KS instead since it has a 16MB buffer vs the WD2500JSs 8MB. With that extra 8MB buffer you should see a little performance increase even if you use in a SATA setup. __________________ Portal: The Flash Version _________________________________ Brain: So, you sacked the cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker? Mr. Sackett: The second cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker I've sacked since the sixth sitting sheet slitter got sick.

Feb 7, 2006, 05:49 AM	#3
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	If you in the USA try newegg there is virtaully no price difference Don't get the WD anyways look for a HITACHI Deskstar T7K250 250GB if it going to be your OS drive other wise get the samsung 120P . have a good read http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/09/27/round/ http://www.storagereview.com/articles/200601/250_1.html I read some others as well each time the samsung and hitachi win out samsung for transfer rates, hitachi for gameing prefromance due to better acess times... I just order a HITACHI Deskstar yesterday... (Raptors are still king but cost to much and don't have as much space) __________________

Feb 7, 2006, 10:18 AM	#6
Tipstaff HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Real capital of Canada: Torauna Posts: 6,773 Rep Power: 190 System Specs	I did a bit of checking, and the WD2500KS will run you about $200 AUS dollars. Saw it at a few places online such as i-Tek, MegaPC, and Nintek which are all Aussie stores, but as you said, it's above your price range. Question for you: The J series only has 8mb buffer, while the K series has 16mb (there is also a Y series that has 16mb too), so is someone listing it as having 16mb? If so, it could be that they are misquoting the buffer size, or they are selling the WD2500KS ,and mistaking it for the WD2500JS. I'd double check with the seller just to make sure. __________________ Portal: The Flash Version _________________________________ Brain: So, you sacked the cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker? Mr. Sackett: The second cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker I've sacked since the sixth sitting sheet slitter got sick. Last edited by Tipstaff; Feb 7, 2006 at 11:33 AM.

Feb 8, 2006, 02:13 AM	Thread Starter #7
TJ- DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Infinity Posts: 3,679 Rep Power: 0	this might be a stupid question but how do i know for sure if i need a sata drive or an ide one? Im using a ASUS k8v se deluxe motherboard __________________ new sig comming soon

Feb 7, 2006, 07:01 AM	#4
Dyre Straits HH Old Fuddy Duddy Join Date: May 2002 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 14,196 Rep Power: 216 System Specs	I'm using 2 Samsung SATA 160 GB drives in my system. Although my system supports RAID, I'm not using them under a RAID array. One is simply my OS/System drive and the other is for storage. Both of these have been in my system now for about a year. I'm very happy with their performance.

Feb 8, 2006, 02:22 AM	#8
davidnsibs 9500pro Forever Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Bath, UK Posts: 273 Rep Power: 0	You'll have both SATA and IDE connections available, so choose depending on which drive you want / how much you want to spend. SATA isnt much more, but then isnt that much quicker really, i just love it because the cables are so small in comparison :-) __________________ Goodbye 9500pro, you've been a faithful servant through Half life, Deus Ex, Unreal 2, Max Payne 1+2, Nolf 1+2, CoD, Far Cry, Civ IV, F.E.A.R and many more

Feb 8, 2006, 02:35 AM	Thread Starter #9
TJ- DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Infinity Posts: 3,679 Rep Power: 0	ok so i think im getting this one the WD2500JS ( Western Digital 250G SATAII 7200 rpm HDD) is it easy to put in or shall i just pay for it to be installed for $30? __________________ new sig comming soon

Feb 8, 2006, 02:46 AM	#10
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	SATA2 and SATA 150 there is little difference other then theatrical or bandwidth from the drive to the system is increased. The drive it self it still the bottle neck. Big thing about SATA2 is NCQ which seem to improve overall performance If you can do SATA do it as PATA controllers use more resources / cpu. Also the very old PATA design is inefficient by comparison with the way signals are sent and received. __________________

Feb 8, 2006, 02:49 AM	Thread Starter #11
TJ- DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Infinity Posts: 3,679 Rep Power: 0	i just ordered the JS Sata2 (http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Revi...rticleId=16014) i will definatly be needing some help installing this bad boy though, never done it before. __________________ new sig comming soon