Check out this HDtach3 result... Think this drive is bad

The_Neon_Cowboy · Feb 12, 2006, 03:16 AM

Befoe I had posted about an exterme "dip" now after wipeing
and formating drive, I put in a 160GB pulled out the 120GB in
my second system did a HD tach test look at this result, remember
this is with out an ANti virus or nothing running period

I think this drive is toast

glad I got the data off......

New IDE cable = same result
Hmm have to wait till monday and I can check it with my
rig just to be sure that its not the secondary ata controler
on this board.. but it s probubly the drive.... it feels a bit warm
and every so ofen durung a test I can feel like a "griding..."
funny thing is self diagnostic and smart check OK ... lol

Matth · Feb 12, 2006, 04:27 PM

Can you get SMART stats from it with something?

Replaced sectors can often result in a drop in speed.

Another utility to try would be MHDD32 http://hddguru.com/content/en/software/2005.10.02-MHDD/

When it finds a lot of "slow" sectors, the drive is usually in a pretty bad way

The_Neon_Cowboy · Feb 12, 2006, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matth

Can you get SMART stats from it with something?

Replaced sectors can often result in a drop in speed.

Another utility to try would be MHDD32 http://hddguru.com/content/en/software/2005.10.02-MHDD/

When it finds a lot of "slow" sectors, the drive is usually in a pretty bad way

I used seagates tools it say the drive is fine even checks the smart status
but this is what speed fan just told me when i checked the smart staus:

Warning: Raw Read Error Rate is below the average limits (55-75).
Warning: Hardware ECC Recovered is below the average limits (55-75).
the other start look or are are boader this is fresh from boot up and nothing
has really done anything sine this is a secondary drive I ran HDtach afew
time on the drive and.... loaded a 2 GB file then deleted it now..

But When I hdtack the result was more normal but then again my previous
test the drive was rather warm from a long period of writeing (formating)

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NOTE : your hard disk has 17 reallocated sectors. Hard disks do have spare sectors (usually from 256 up to 1024) used to replace bad ones. This remapping operation is transparent to the end user. Anyway, this can lead to degradated performances (because remapped sectors are in different places of the disk than the original ones and the head needs additional moving). If reallocated sectors grow over time, you might encounter some serious troubles. A backup of the most important data is suggested anyway.

The overall fitness for this drive is 79%.
The overall performance for this drive is 79%.
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ummmm I think this drive is ppppt!!!

I'm going to do a zero fill see if that clears things up....

Matth · Feb 13, 2006, 03:52 PM

MHDD32 has several options useful for "proving" a drive, though the more powerful options are data destructive.

It can read scan with "erase waits", so that any poorly responding areas are given a workthrough to try to clear or break them. It can also scan with replacement enabled, though there is no way to force a replacement, even of the worst unless they reach failure point.

I finally learnt how to read SMART, and it's a bit of a mess....

The RAW figure is the actual data, so for most counted parameters, will increase over time, with high numbers being bad.

This is transformed (unknown calculation) into actual and worst values, with higher numbers being better, and a SMART warning if it drops below threshold. A threshold of 0 indicates an informational parameter, as it will always report as OK.

Either it's untrustworthy and on it's way out, or it needs some better cooling.

One thing to watch for (in MHDD32) if it shows a lot of slows around the mid point of a drive that has been used in NTFS, that indicates that the area with the steady workload of the MFT is deteriorating. if it's mild, then stuffing the start of the drive with a 10GB unused partition may move the MFT out of the overworked area.

Just depends - if it seems to have "come back", then maybe it was just overheated, but those block replacements make me nervous - they could represent a single defect being mapped out, or the start of a progressive decay.

Feb 12, 2006, 03:16 AM	#1
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	Check out this HDtach3 result... Think this drive is bad Befoe I had posted about an exterme "dip" now after wipeing and formating drive, I put in a 160GB pulled out the 120GB in my second system did a HD tach test look at this result, remember this is with out an ANti virus or nothing running period I think this drive is toast glad I got the data off...... New IDE cable = same result Hmm have to wait till monday and I can check it with my rig just to be sure that its not the secondary ata controler on this board.. but it s probubly the drive.... it feels a bit warm and every so ofen durung a test I can feel like a "griding..." funny thing is self diagnostic and smart check OK ... lol __________________ Last edited by The_Neon_Cowboy; Feb 12, 2006 at 03:56 AM.

Feb 12, 2006, 04:27 PM	#2
Matth Flash Banner Hater Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: UK Posts: 3,426 Rep Power: 93 System Specs	Can you get SMART stats from it with something? Replaced sectors can often result in a drop in speed. Another utility to try would be MHDD32 http://hddguru.com/content/en/software/2005.10.02-MHDD/ When it finds a lot of "slow" sectors, the drive is usually in a pretty bad way

Feb 13, 2006, 03:52 PM	#4
Matth Flash Banner Hater Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: UK Posts: 3,426 Rep Power: 93 System Specs	MHDD32 has several options useful for "proving" a drive, though the more powerful options are data destructive. It can read scan with "erase waits", so that any poorly responding areas are given a workthrough to try to clear or break them. It can also scan with replacement enabled, though there is no way to force a replacement, even of the worst unless they reach failure point. I finally learnt how to read SMART, and it's a bit of a mess.... The RAW figure is the actual data, so for most counted parameters, will increase over time, with high numbers being bad. This is transformed (unknown calculation) into actual and worst values, with higher numbers being better, and a SMART warning if it drops below threshold. A threshold of 0 indicates an informational parameter, as it will always report as OK. Either it's untrustworthy and on it's way out, or it needs some better cooling. One thing to watch for (in MHDD32) if it shows a lot of slows around the mid point of a drive that has been used in NTFS, that indicates that the area with the steady workload of the MFT is deteriorating. if it's mild, then stuffing the start of the drive with a 10GB unused partition may move the MFT out of the overworked area. Just depends - if it seems to have "come back", then maybe it was just overheated, but those block replacements make me nervous - they could represent a single defect being mapped out, or the start of a progressive decay.