AMD Roundup November 2009 @ DH

***craig5320*** · Nov 4, 2009, 06:08 PM

AMD Roundup November 2009
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Today we look at the new AMD processors - the revised Phenom II 965 Black Edition and the Athlon II X3 435. We also look at the DFI DK-790FXB-M3H5 and the stunning new Sapphire Vapor X 5870 and watercooled Powercolor 5870 LCS.

comp_ali · Nov 4, 2009, 06:36 PM

Thanks for this well made review , I liked the theme as well. The new "Lowest FPS" design is a little hard to figure , I found the last one better.

For the cards I find they are a bit expensive for me but they are gorgeous in performance.

Zardon · Nov 4, 2009, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by comp_ali

Thanks for this well made review , I liked the theme as well. The new "Lowest FPS" design is a little hard to figure , I found the last one better.

why is that? the FPS is on the left and its moving up as down as the game progresses almost in real time. its massively more detailed than the last one......

Knew this would happen !

(if anyone else hates it please post in feedback forum, lets keep this thread to the products).

IvanV · Nov 4, 2009, 09:57 PM

A nice roundup with all of the components worth attention.

It was nice to see these custom cooled 5870s, s good to see that manufacturers are trying to improve the currently best graphics solution while keeping the price increase reasonable.

Also, I was curious about the new Athlon X3 and it didn't disappoint. As for the new 965, I was slightly surprised to see it again, but lowered TDP means that it's now an option for a much wider audience as there are many fine boards that only support CPUs up to 125W so it's good that DH keeps their eyes peeled and that AMD is working on such minor things.

And finally, the board also left a good impression. I won't be building a new system soon, but if I were, this piece from DFI would be on my short-list.

P.S. Min fps graphs are a nice addition.

For some reason, I found the original version somewhat better looking, although I can't really say that they were better and find the new ones just fine.

**kris23** · Nov 5, 2009, 03:36 AM

i actually like the min FPS graph.....

as for the review.... excellent.....

AMD...... excellent price to performance as usual

ET3D · Nov 5, 2009, 06:53 AM

I like these roundups. I did feel that the min FPS graphs were like watching virtual paint dry. I hate waiting to see the complete picture. (That's my main gripe with any Flash graphs, but it's a longer wait in this particular instance.)

I'm impressed by the PowerColor card. Slightly faster overclock than the Sapphire at a considerably lower temperature.

SeraphicSorcerer · Nov 5, 2009, 06:55 AM

Good review, I am thinking of getting the C3 stepping lower TDP

Kein · Nov 5, 2009, 11:02 PM

I like the options available today in the sub $100 market, thanks to AMD. The x3 435 doesn't make much sense when the x4 620 is just $10 more though.

Bolletje · Nov 5, 2009, 11:09 PM

Nice roundup

Overclock on that X3 435 is quite low ... :o

Btw, maybe a tutorial/review about the unlocking of the cores of AMD CPU's is nice? Like the Sempron 140, the Athlon II 240 and Phenom II 550 BE. And the cache of course from the X4 620.
You already have a motherboard with a SB750

Or am I the only one that likes those kind of features :P?

SeraphicSorcerer · Nov 9, 2009, 06:25 AM

I do like the new graphs actually just took an extra second to get use to em.

I really am hoping to get a C3 with my X2 5870. But we'll see.

isaak · Nov 9, 2009, 07:01 AM

I take it the X-axis of the graph represents frame number? (i skipped the first page sorry

, may want to label it for people like me)

very comprehensive review, thanks

ps congrats seraphic 1000 posts

edit: may want to consider changing the X-axis scale for the DVD upscaling graphs to make them a bit clearer? 0.1% on a graph that goes up in 10% increments is a bit hard to see

Nov 4, 2009, 06:08 PM	#1
*craig5320* HH Administrator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 8,568 Rep Power: 445 System Specs	AMD Roundup November 2009 @ DH AMD Roundup November 2009 _________________________ Today we look at the new AMD processors - the revised Phenom II 965 Black Edition and the Athlon II X3 435. We also look at the DFI DK-790FXB-M3H5 and the stunning new Sapphire Vapor X 5870 and watercooled Powercolor 5870 LCS. __________________ HardwareHeaven on Facebook

Nov 4, 2009, 06:36 PM	#2
comp_ali Sniper Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Egypt Posts: 10,469 Rep Power: 339 System Specs	Re: AMD Roundup November 2009 @ DH Thanks for this well made review , I liked the theme as well. The new "Lowest FPS" design is a little hard to figure , I found the last one better. For the cards I find they are a bit expensive for me but they are gorgeous in performance. __________________

Nov 4, 2009, 09:57 PM	#4
IvanV HH Assassin Guild Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,914 Rep Power: 333 System Specs	Re: AMD Roundup November 2009 @ DH A nice roundup with all of the components worth attention. It was nice to see these custom cooled 5870s, s good to see that manufacturers are trying to improve the currently best graphics solution while keeping the price increase reasonable. Also, I was curious about the new Athlon X3 and it didn't disappoint. As for the new 965, I was slightly surprised to see it again, but lowered TDP means that it's now an option for a much wider audience as there are many fine boards that only support CPUs up to 125W so it's good that DH keeps their eyes peeled and that AMD is working on such minor things. And finally, the board also left a good impression. I won't be building a new system soon, but if I were, this piece from DFI would be on my short-list. P.S. Min fps graphs are a nice addition. For some reason, I found the original version somewhat better looking, although I can't really say that they were better and find the new ones just fine. __________________ If anyone has Portal 2 and hasn't played the co-op and wants to do me a favour, let me know (PM me or whatever).

Nov 5, 2009, 03:36 AM	#5
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,018 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Re: AMD Roundup November 2009 @ DH i actually like the min FPS graph..... as for the review.... excellent..... AMD...... excellent price to performance as usual __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Nov 5, 2009, 06:53 AM	#6
ET3D Hopeless Dreamer Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Dreamland, near the pool of infinite graphics cards Posts: 3,057 Rep Power: 105 System Specs	Re: AMD Roundup November 2009 @ DH I like these roundups. I did feel that the min FPS graphs were like watching virtual paint dry. I hate waiting to see the complete picture. (That's my main gripe with any Flash graphs, but it's a longer wait in this particular instance.) I'm impressed by the PowerColor card. Slightly faster overclock than the Sapphire at a considerably lower temperature.

Nov 5, 2009, 06:55 AM	#7
SeraphicSorcerer HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 2,295 Rep Power: 156 System Specs	Re: AMD Roundup November 2009 @ DH Good review, I am thinking of getting the C3 stepping lower TDP __________________

Nov 5, 2009, 11:02 PM	#8
Kein HardwareHeaven Lover Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 103 Rep Power: 40	Re: AMD Roundup November 2009 @ DH I like the options available today in the sub $100 market, thanks to AMD. The x3 435 doesn't make much sense when the x4 620 is just $10 more though.

Nov 5, 2009, 11:09 PM	#9
Bolletje HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,224 Rep Power: 79 System Specs	Re: AMD Roundup November 2009 @ DH Nice roundup Overclock on that X3 435 is quite low ... :o Btw, maybe a tutorial/review about the unlocking of the cores of AMD CPU's is nice? Like the Sempron 140, the Athlon II 240 and Phenom II 550 BE. And the cache of course from the X4 620. You already have a motherboard with a SB750 Or am I the only one that likes those kind of features :P?

Nov 9, 2009, 06:25 AM	#10
SeraphicSorcerer HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 2,295 Rep Power: 156 System Specs	Re: AMD Roundup November 2009 @ DH I do like the new graphs actually just took an extra second to get use to em. I really am hoping to get a C3 with my X2 5870. But we'll see. __________________

Nov 9, 2009, 07:01 AM	#11
isaak HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 2,286 Rep Power: 112 System Specs	Re: AMD Roundup November 2009 @ DH I take it the X-axis of the graph represents frame number? (i skipped the first page sorry , may want to label it for people like me) very comprehensive review, thanks ps congrats seraphic 1000 posts edit: may want to consider changing the X-axis scale for the DVD upscaling graphs to make them a bit clearer? 0.1% on a graph that goes up in 10% increments is a bit hard to see __________________ The first step... shall be to lose the way. - Galway Kinnell Last edited by isaak; Nov 9, 2009 at 07:07 AM.