MS get questioned by shareholders about Apple

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Our moles have told us that the yearly shareholders meeting with CEO Steve Balmer was quite intense this year with him being questioned on 'a real bad image'

BlueMak

That's one tough crowd there. Apart from his money, I wouldn't want to be in his shoes for that meeting.

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Cow_160483

It's hard to please everyone am sure that even if they had 99.99% of the market share they would sill have been complaining about that 0.01%

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procupine14

of course they would. The way that I have always perceived Microsoft is that they are only happy if their competitors are only big enough to keep them from being considered a monopoly. If they are any bigger than that all of the share holders throw a fit (which is basically all the time)

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ExitiosuS

From what I understand, almost everyone 12-17 that uses a Mac usually just regurgitate the ads that they see. "It just works", "PCs crash a lot", "NO viruses on a Mac / never need an antivirus", and so on.

It's rare that someone has a genuine perception of Mac... even more disappointing, is when someone is comtemplating purchasing a computer, Mac buyers are somewhat of a secret community that pounces at the thought immediately suggesting, "GET A MAC!" When they talk about the performance of a Dell, an HP, etc... oftentimes, they turn snobby and upset as if they have just been wronged. "Oh, that perform nearly as well as a Mac," and so on.

It's very intelligent advertising that Mac has employed. Though it is far fetched, oftentimes wrong to a disgusting degree, they have managed to, with ads playing every 15-20 commercials, brainwash a large portion of the generation that they're targetting.

I really dislike Mac ads and worse yet, I dislike when people regurgitate the filth that they hear in a Mac ad as if it's fact.

How often, save for Mac ads, do you see people quoting a commercial as if it's personal belief? It's just like political advertising -- they quote it, but they don't understand where the data is (or what data they used) that they're taking an assumption from.

SeraphicSorcerer

They don't have to quote it, Blue screens at one time, were common.

Windows 98 first Edition, Windows me, etc etc. Even Windows XP had disgusting blue screens, and sorry but those blue screen memories don't simply vanish.

Apple actually does have fantastic support, And alot of their call centers are based in The U.S For (american support)

It doesn't matter if Windows 7 does not blue screen (Which in fact, it still does - but that's another matter) It's a image perception.

Yes. I've seen Kernel Panics in Mac OS X when hardware goes faulty, or someone messed up the Darwin kernal, etc.
And btw, the reason you don't "need" a anti-virus for a mac is because a mac will never ever launch a virus on its own. Ever. the user absolutely has to launch it in order for it to execute. Windows has the image of being virus ridden because Ilove you, Melissa, the wonderful lsass worm (WHICH STILL propagates the internet).

The fact of the matter remains the same, When you own 96% of the world's desktops and you crash, people are going to root for the underdog, If apple had completed it's world domination, it would be PC everyone would be rooting for and calling crash free, etc.

Mac Ads successfully play on that.

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Mousey

The most likely reason is because unlike Apple, Microsoft don't need to launch a smear campaign to sell their product.
Whilst i do agree macs are good for strictly work computers since they're the industry standard i don't like the way they're marketed. Apple's site and it's design is so professional but the ads feel like they're done by a fanboy.

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dawgXdenta

You said it all

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ExitiosuS

While I agree that blue screens, at one time, in a Windows long ago may have been common... for the generation that MAC is advertising to these are distant memories or simply non-existent memories.

The teenagers of today were 6-12 years old when Windows 98 was out, providing very little support for the blue screen travesties they may have experienced playing Reader Rabbit causing irreperable scarring leading to a change in company.

Windows XP, an operating system in which they are more familiar with, is an operating system that, after SP1, has had people clinging to for dear life due to its familiarity and trust in its performance and their present hardware configuration. (Though, naturally, I'm aware some people have downgraded from Vista to XP in an effort to stick to what they trust)

Though your statements suggest why the 25-35 year old technically literate and peeved people would convert to MAC, they don't explain why 15-21 year olds that are not computer literate, nor care much for computers in a large way, are hardcore about MAC -- except for the idea that they buy into the advertising / someone has convinced them that MAC is synonymous to GOD (that is, the epitome of computing and programming perfection... as the ads would have you believe).

Very few individuals actually pay attention to where the call centres are based, very few actually open a Consumer Reports magazine and take a look at the pros and cons of various hardware configurations as best suited to one's lifestyle / bang for the dollar ratio / longevity analysis -- in which MAC is usually around the 11%-14% Failure Rate mark (which is great, but suggests that it simply doesn't just work as the advertising will have you believe).

At 94% of the market share, and the ability to work on nearly every consumer viable option of hardware configurations, MAC adverts play unfairly on the fact that Microsoft has created an operating system that has the capability of running on an extremely vast number of hardware configurations and, every once in awhile, suffers some kind of an error somewhere down the road.

It's not like MAC hasn't had its share of technical support woes, replicating WinME with their Snow Leopard.

I don't know, it seems silly to assume people are rooting for an underdog when speaking of MAC -- I would hardly refer to it as rooting for an underdog. When people watch MAC ads and comment on them, they're not thinking to themselves, "This is a tiny company that is getting beat up by Microsoft."

Most people, as I'm arguing, don't understand the usage percentages.
Though your technical knowledge may be profound, I believe you're overlooking my point that the average Mac user that I brought up that uses a Mac... seems to be technically inapt, at best, and buying into advertising that I believe is long expired and simply a replication of tired political smear campaigns that enjoy bringing up news of 25 years ago that no one really cares about.

Maybe someone should bring up Apple's past? It's very colourful.