Driver Heaven Mobility Modder.net Public Beta V 0.8.8.0 - XP and Vista Support!

micsimms · Apr 5, 2008, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seige57

Hi, thanks so much for your great work!

Sadly, I am one of those poor souls with the DirectDraw and Direct3D failure. I have a Toshiba Satellite A70 PSA70C-00V00E with a Radeon 9100 IGP.

I used MM on the following Catalyst install: hotfix_xp32_8-471-1-1-080324b-61196.exe

I would just like to verify that I selected the correct one, the step-by-step told me to get the latest DESKTOP Catalyst, but it seems awfully strange downloading that instead of the Catalyst for chips integrated with the motherboard.

I think I can still emulate Pokemon Pearl with OpenGL, but I need Direct3D to run Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne, so I would appreciate hearing about this problem the INSTANT someone figures it out.

Other information about my system that may help:
Up until earlier today I used Omega 3.8.252 Drivers and encountered the exact same DirectDraw and Direct3D problems. I first noticed this problem yesterday during a strange problem with my Sound Card displaying greyed out Control Panel controls (as if no driver was installed) -- even though Realtek AC97 was still sitting in the Device Manager list with no errors, same as always.

I fiddled with things and went to sleep frustrated and woke up with that problem magically solved all by itself, but the Direct3D problems I noticed yesterday still remain.

Someone solve the riddle! And email me the fix! Haaalp!

Try the one i linked to from sapphire instead it may vary slightly. The desktop package is the one to go for if you are downloading from game.amd.com. However, ATI do supply a mobility package for XP so I can see your confusion here. The mod tool is designed for use with the desktop version though. Hope this helps. If you still get the direct3d problems then i guess this fix only works for desktop boards. The same annoying issue though!

The alternative is to use version 7.12 which does not suffer this problem. You can download it from the driverheaven mirror for ATI here:
http://www.driverheavendownloads.net/ati.htm

Fiah · Apr 6, 2008, 09:18 PM

I'd like to extend my gratitude to those responsible for the development of this fine utility. It helped me solve an issue that I had with the 'official' Catalyst Mobility drivers, which caused a BSOD every time I restarted my Asus F3Ja laptop with an X1600. Details for anyone Googling this issue: BAD_POOL_CALLER, 0x000000c2.

Simply installing the desktop drivers after modding them with this mod tool made me a happy camper

ed_co · Apr 9, 2008, 04:55 PM

Hi, any chance with firegl v5600? This is the only graphic card of this generation that is not supported here.

Thank you.

**Spike** · Apr 10, 2008, 08:14 AM

Will search for the driver and settings and add the v5600.

ed_co · Apr 12, 2008, 04:09 AM

Thank you Spike, fyi this card is in the model hp compaq 8510w and is based on hd 2600 with gl settings (like v5200 y based on x1600).

blindwrite · Apr 12, 2008, 08:58 PM

how about the compatibilty with mobilty radeon hd3650??
we have to wait the next relase??

JoeeMama · Apr 13, 2008, 02:27 PM

I'm having some trouble.

First, I get an error when I try to open Mobility Modder. It says unhandled exception... system reflection target invocation exception and goes on and on.

Second, I don't understand step 3 in the step by step guide..
[Download the newest desktop drivers from www.ati.com (or get them from Driver Heaven Downloads). If you are using Windows XP make sure to download .net framework from Microsoft (this is built into Windows Vista so there is no need to install it).]

I have mobility radeon 9700. Is that step telling me to go to ATI.com and download that thing to check if my computer is compatible for catalyst,? Please fill me in.

After looking hours and hours for this damn driver, I finally decided to use the omega driver 3.8.442 which I have no clue what it is. I tried playing counter-strike but it won't let me play in open GL so i have to play in D3D. Can someone tell me the difference between an omega driver and the normal ATI one?

btw, do i need SP2 for mobility modder?

Thanks

**temeteus82** · Apr 13, 2008, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeeMama

I'm having some trouble.

First, I get an error when I try to open Mobility Modder. It says unhandled exception... system reflection target invocation exception and goes on and on.

Second, I don't understand step 3 in the step by step guide..
[Download the newest desktop drivers from www.ati.com (or get them from Driver Heaven Downloads). If you are using Windows XP make sure to download .net framework from Microsoft (this is built into Windows Vista so there is no need to install it).]

I have mobility radeon 9700. Is that step telling me to go to ATI.com and download that thing to check if my computer is compatible for catalyst,? Please fill me in.

After looking hours and hours for this damn driver, I finally decided to use the omega driver 3.8.442 which I have no clue what it is. I tried playing counter-strike but it won't let me play in open GL so i have to play in D3D. Can someone tell me the difference between an omega driver and the normal ATI one?

btw, do i need SP2 for mobility modder?

Thanks

Hi there and welcome to DriverHeaven!

First you are using XP or Vista? If you have XP make sure that you have .NET Framework 2.0 installed on your system.

You need to download the Desktop version of the drivers not the mobile/IGP driver.
Difference in Omga's is that the .inf files have been modified to support older cards and Omega turned on some tweaks that are normally turned off. As for OpenGL issues there has been a ton of those with mobility chipset users using Omegas and the drivers that has been modded with the mod tool.

I think SP2 is not needed but highly recommended!

JoeeMama · Apr 13, 2008, 03:13 PM

Thanks for the quick reply.

I am using XP sp1. I did get the .NEt framework 2.0 and i still get that error. Maybe corrupted installation?

If I succesfully did get mobility modder to do its job, will I still have open GL problems like that?

**temeteus82** · Apr 13, 2008, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeeMama

Thanks for the quick reply.

I am using XP sp1. I did get the .NEt framework 2.0 and i still get that error. Maybe corrupted installation?

If I succesfully did get mobility modder to do its job, will I still have open GL problems like that?

Try to uninstall the mobility modder and then re-install it.
I think so that you would encounter issues with OpenGL. But I'm not 100% sure. I think that Spike the maker of the mod tool might have the correct answer to that.
[EDIT] Only way to know is just to test how it goes...

blindwrite · Apr 14, 2008, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blindwrite

how about the compatibilty with mobilty radeon hd3650??
we have to wait the next relase??

no idea?

Icelandic · Apr 15, 2008, 01:20 AM

Hello there

I'm trying to install Catalyst 8.3 to my Dell Inspiron 'Pile of Crap' 6000 (hehe) I have Radeon Mobility x300.

I have windows xp; the problem is, is that every time I reboot my computer, I'll get a BSoD...once I reboot once, it starts up correctly, but I'd rather not have one every time I need to restart

Also, I'm having the same issue many others reported in the DirectDraw/Direct 3D area.

Thanks for making this mod, and even more if you can help me to resolve these issues--I'll be forever in your debt! =D

ed_co · Apr 15, 2008, 09:24 AM

This modtool, looks like that is not for an old cards.

**temeteus82** · Apr 15, 2008, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icelandic

Hello there

I'm trying to install Catalyst 8.3 to my Dell Inspiron 'Pile of Crap' 6000 (hehe) I have Radeon Mobility x300.

I have windows xp; the problem is, is that every time I reboot my computer, I'll get a BSoD...once I reboot once, it starts up correctly, but I'd rather not have one every time I need to restart

Also, I'm having the same issue many others reported in the DirectDraw/Direct 3D area.

Thanks for making this mod, and even more if you can help me to resolve these issues--I'll be forever in your debt! =D

You might try some older drivers. You can found them at http://www.driverheavendownloads.net/ati.htm

**Spike** · Apr 15, 2008, 08:45 PM

These will be added in the next release

ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 2700
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 3450
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 3470
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 3650
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 3850

Found teh drivers for the FireGL V5600 so tha twill be added also.

ed_co · Apr 15, 2008, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike

These will be added in the next release

ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 2700
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 3450
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 3470
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 3650
ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 3850

Found teh drivers for the FireGL V5600 so tha twill be added also.

When will be released the next version of the modtools?

Thank you.

**Spike** · Apr 16, 2008, 09:18 AM

The new version will be released as soon as possible. Still need to check some things.

ed_co · Apr 16, 2008, 12:20 PM

Thank you spike. Only one thing fyi, if you found the v5600 firegl drivers from hp 8510w, I must say one thing, the drivers for hd 2600 (8510w) and the firegl v5600 (8510p) are the same with the same ID, because hp, patch the subsystem ID in the ati2mtag.sys to difference them. Be carefull. Then, that is both cards are the same at least in HP, only the subsystem id, difference each one have opengl capacities. Sorry for my english.

foutiti67 · Apr 16, 2008, 11:40 PM

The new catalyst is out !
But allways not support of my hd 2700 grrr...

AMD GAME Drivers And Utilities

**temeteus82** · Apr 16, 2008, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foutiti67

The new catalyst is out !
But allways not support of my hd 2700 grrr...

AMD GAME Drivers And Utilities

That is mobile chipset? If it is then there won't ever be official support for it from AMD.

micsimms · Apr 18, 2008, 08:39 PM

Just tried the new Catalyst 8.4 on an AGP desktop system with Sapphire Radeon X1600 Pro. No Direct3D problem any more it is running fine whereas with 8.1, 8.2 or 8.3 it didn't and required the hotfix. The same may now apply to the notebooks which have been suffering the issue as well. Worth a try. Seems AMD have not released a separate hotfix either this time round

so it may be possible for the affected users to recompose this package with the mod tool and create some decent up-to-date drivers at last.

**Spike** · Apr 18, 2008, 10:47 PM

thanx for telling this micsimms, because it is possible it was the driver all the time then and i was still looking why it happend. The new version is going good. Probally next week the new version will come.

ed_co · Apr 19, 2008, 02:46 AM

Thank you Spike. I hope see you soon.

Seige57 · Apr 19, 2008, 05:18 AM

Direct3D still won't work for me.

I'm the guy with the Radeon 9100 IGP one page back in this thread.

I tried everything I could think of tonight and still no satisfaction. This is the list of things I did that did NOT fix Direct3D:

Omega Drivers
8.3 Catalyst with Mob Mod
8.3 Hotfix with Mob Mod
8.4 Catalyst with Mob Mod
8.4 Hotfix with Mob Mod
Old stable 7.12 Catalyst (as per recommendation) with Mob Mod
Reinstalling DirectX 9.0c

Direct3D was working fine with the Omega drivers for about a year up until some point last week. I don't know what exactly caused it to fail, I was having trouble with my sound card and by the time that cleared up, Direct3D was gone.

Is this problem caused by some recent Windows Update? Why is this happening?

And a new question: I've been uninstalling drivers by selecting ATI - Software Uninstall Utility from the Add/Remove Programs list and then rebooting. Is that bad? I notice there's a "driver cleaner" program, do I need that? I got one blue-screen-of-death error while installing all these drivers. And I've noticed my No$GBA emulator has stopped working, which means no more Pokemon Pearl for me. Which is strange, as that was set up to use OpenGL... I'm hoping that problem will go away once I fix Direct3D and switch back to either 8.4 Catalyst (modded) or Omega.

Anyways, in conclusion, I currently have:

Toshiba Satellite A70
Radeon 9100IGP
Catalyst 7.12 with Mob Mod applied
Probably crap left all over my registry from all these driver installs/uninstalls
NO DIRECT3D CAPABILITY

Haaalp. Haaaaaaalp. Halp?

micsimms · Apr 19, 2008, 09:14 AM

Shame to hear the Direct3D issue has not been resolved for you. I still believe it has nothing whatsoever to do with the mod tool and is specific to the Catalyst packages 7.12 onwards (seige - my recommendation sorry, thought these would be ok as they worked on my legacy AGP desktop ok as per my post about 8.4). Which version of the DirectX Runtime do you have installed? March 2008? I know you can't uninstall DirectX but wonder if the updated runtimes have affected older products somehow too.

If you are selecting uninstall ALL ATI software you should be clearing the drivers and catalyst properly. However it is still possible there are residual files left on your system. DriverCleaner is probably the safest option to ensure your system is thoroughly purged after that many different installations.

**temeteus82** · Apr 19, 2008, 09:40 AM

Since you got so old card 9100IPG is rather old today's standards. I recomend using older driver like Omega's based on CAT 6.X. Recently I've fixed one laptop with 9000 mobility on it and installed Omegas based on CAT 6.5 and it works just fine. And there aren't any improvements for those older chips on the 7.X and 8.X series of CAT drivers.

ed_co · Apr 20, 2008, 02:44 AM

One question, is this modtool valid for xp/vista 64 bit?

**Spike** · Apr 20, 2008, 09:00 AM

For Vista 64bit it will only work if the driver signing is disabled. By Vista 64bit if the driver is not whql signed it will not install. I am not sure if that is the same on xp 64bit.

ed_co · Apr 20, 2008, 06:52 PM

Thank you Spike. I hope that you rode my last interesting post (#138).

Greetings.

scaramonga · Apr 20, 2008, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by micsimms

Thanks for the excellent modding tool though. Works a treat on my new notebook the ASUS F3Sr-AP725C with Mobility Radeon HD2400 GPU, keep up the excellent work!

Don't work for me

I have same lappy as yourself - HD2400 on Vista 32.

When trying to mod drivers 8.4, I keep getting this error?

'xml2msi.exe has stopped working'

Any ideas guys?

Apr 9, 2008, 04:55 PM	#123
ed_co DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	firegl v5600 Hi, any chance with firegl v5600? This is the only graphic card of this generation that is not supported here. Thank you.

Apr 10, 2008, 08:14 AM	#124
Spike Driver Cleaner Maker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Netherlands Posts: 2,085 Rep Power: 69 System Specs	Will search for the driver and settings and add the v5600. __________________

Apr 15, 2008, 08:45 PM	#135
Spike Driver Cleaner Maker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Netherlands Posts: 2,085 Rep Power: 69 System Specs	These will be added in the next release ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 2700 ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 3450 ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 3470 ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 3650 ATI MOBILITY RADEON HD 3850 Found teh drivers for the FireGL V5600 so tha twill be added also. __________________

Apr 16, 2008, 09:18 AM	#137
Spike Driver Cleaner Maker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Netherlands Posts: 2,085 Rep Power: 69 System Specs	The new version will be released as soon as possible. Still need to check some things. __________________

Apr 18, 2008, 08:39 PM	#141
micsimms DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	New Catalyst 8.4 - Direct3D fixed? Just tried the new Catalyst 8.4 on an AGP desktop system with Sapphire Radeon X1600 Pro. No Direct3D problem any more it is running fine whereas with 8.1, 8.2 or 8.3 it didn't and required the hotfix. The same may now apply to the notebooks which have been suffering the issue as well. Worth a try. Seems AMD have not released a separate hotfix either this time round so it may be possible for the affected users to recompose this package with the mod tool and create some decent up-to-date drivers at last.

Apr 6, 2008, 09:18 PM	#122
Fiah DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	I'd like to extend my gratitude to those responsible for the development of this fine utility. It helped me solve an issue that I had with the 'official' Catalyst Mobility drivers, which caused a BSOD every time I restarted my Asus F3Ja laptop with an X1600. Details for anyone Googling this issue: BAD_POOL_CALLER, 0x000000c2. Simply installing the desktop drivers after modding them with this mod tool made me a happy camper

Apr 12, 2008, 04:09 AM	#125
ed_co DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	Thank you Spike, fyi this card is in the model hp compaq 8510w and is based on hd 2600 with gl settings (like v5200 y based on x1600).

Apr 12, 2008, 08:58 PM	#126
blindwrite DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	how about the compatibilty with mobilty radeon hd3650?? we have to wait the next relase??

Apr 13, 2008, 02:27 PM	#127
JoeeMama DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	I'm having some trouble. First, I get an error when I try to open Mobility Modder. It says unhandled exception... system reflection target invocation exception and goes on and on. Second, I don't understand step 3 in the step by step guide.. [Download the newest desktop drivers from www.ati.com (or get them from Driver Heaven Downloads). If you are using Windows XP make sure to download .net framework from Microsoft (this is built into Windows Vista so there is no need to install it).] I have mobility radeon 9700. Is that step telling me to go to ATI.com and download that thing to check if my computer is compatible for catalyst,? Please fill me in. After looking hours and hours for this damn driver, I finally decided to use the omega driver 3.8.442 which I have no clue what it is. I tried playing counter-strike but it won't let me play in open GL so i have to play in D3D. Can someone tell me the difference between an omega driver and the normal ATI one? btw, do i need SP2 for mobility modder? Thanks

Apr 13, 2008, 03:13 PM	#129
JoeeMama DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Thanks for the quick reply. I am using XP sp1. I did get the .NEt framework 2.0 and i still get that error. Maybe corrupted installation? If I succesfully did get mobility modder to do its job, will I still have open GL problems like that?

Apr 15, 2008, 01:20 AM	#132
Icelandic DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Hello there I'm trying to install Catalyst 8.3 to my Dell Inspiron 'Pile of Crap' 6000 (hehe) I have Radeon Mobility x300. I have windows xp; the problem is, is that every time I reboot my computer, I'll get a BSoD...once I reboot once, it starts up correctly, but I'd rather not have one every time I need to restart Also, I'm having the same issue many others reported in the DirectDraw/Direct 3D area. Thanks for making this mod, and even more if you can help me to resolve these issues--I'll be forever in your debt! =D

Apr 15, 2008, 09:24 AM	#133
ed_co DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	This modtool, looks like that is not for an old cards.

Apr 16, 2008, 12:20 PM	#138
ed_co DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	Thank you spike. Only one thing fyi, if you found the v5600 firegl drivers from hp 8510w, I must say one thing, the drivers for hd 2600 (8510w) and the firegl v5600 (8510p) are the same with the same ID, because hp, patch the subsystem ID in the ati2mtag.sys to difference them. Be carefull. Then, that is both cards are the same at least in HP, only the subsystem id, difference each one have opengl capacities. Sorry for my english.

Apr 16, 2008, 11:40 PM	#139
foutiti67 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	The new catalyst is out ! But allways not support of my hd 2700 grrr... AMD GAME Drivers And Utilities

Apr 18, 2008, 10:47 PM	#142
Spike Driver Cleaner Maker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Netherlands Posts: 2,085 Rep Power: 69 System Specs	thanx for telling this micsimms, because it is possible it was the driver all the time then and i was still looking why it happend. The new version is going good. Probally next week the new version will come. __________________

Apr 19, 2008, 02:46 AM	#143
ed_co DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	Thank you Spike. I hope see you soon.

Apr 19, 2008, 05:18 AM	#144
Seige57 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Direct3D still won't work for me. I'm the guy with the Radeon 9100 IGP one page back in this thread. I tried everything I could think of tonight and still no satisfaction. This is the list of things I did that did NOT fix Direct3D: Omega Drivers 8.3 Catalyst with Mob Mod 8.3 Hotfix with Mob Mod 8.4 Catalyst with Mob Mod 8.4 Hotfix with Mob Mod Old stable 7.12 Catalyst (as per recommendation) with Mob Mod Reinstalling DirectX 9.0c Direct3D was working fine with the Omega drivers for about a year up until some point last week. I don't know what exactly caused it to fail, I was having trouble with my sound card and by the time that cleared up, Direct3D was gone. Is this problem caused by some recent Windows Update? Why is this happening? And a new question: I've been uninstalling drivers by selecting ATI - Software Uninstall Utility from the Add/Remove Programs list and then rebooting. Is that bad? I notice there's a "driver cleaner" program, do I need that? I got one blue-screen-of-death error while installing all these drivers. And I've noticed my No$GBA emulator has stopped working, which means no more Pokemon Pearl for me. Which is strange, as that was set up to use OpenGL... I'm hoping that problem will go away once I fix Direct3D and switch back to either 8.4 Catalyst (modded) or Omega. Anyways, in conclusion, I currently have: Toshiba Satellite A70 Radeon 9100IGP Catalyst 7.12 with Mob Mod applied Probably crap left all over my registry from all these driver installs/uninstalls NO DIRECT3D CAPABILITY Haaalp. Haaaaaaalp. Halp?

Apr 19, 2008, 09:14 AM	#145
micsimms DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	Shame to hear the Direct3D issue has not been resolved for you. I still believe it has nothing whatsoever to do with the mod tool and is specific to the Catalyst packages 7.12 onwards (seige - my recommendation sorry, thought these would be ok as they worked on my legacy AGP desktop ok as per my post about 8.4). Which version of the DirectX Runtime do you have installed? March 2008? I know you can't uninstall DirectX but wonder if the updated runtimes have affected older products somehow too. If you are selecting uninstall ALL ATI software you should be clearing the drivers and catalyst properly. However it is still possible there are residual files left on your system. DriverCleaner is probably the safest option to ensure your system is thoroughly purged after that many different installations. Last edited by micsimms; Apr 19, 2008 at 09:20 AM.

Apr 20, 2008, 02:44 AM	#147
ed_co DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	One question, is this modtool valid for xp/vista 64 bit? Last edited by ed_co; Apr 20, 2008 at 02:49 AM.

Apr 20, 2008, 09:00 AM	#148
Spike Driver Cleaner Maker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Netherlands Posts: 2,085 Rep Power: 69 System Specs	For Vista 64bit it will only work if the driver signing is disabled. By Vista 64bit if the driver is not whql signed it will not install. I am not sure if that is the same on xp 64bit. __________________

Apr 20, 2008, 06:52 PM	#149
ed_co DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	Thank you Spike. I hope that you rode my last interesting post (#138). Greetings.