DriverHeaven - Driver Cleaner Professional Edition 1.0

**Spike** · Jan 29, 2005, 10:48 AM

Vany7777 if you cleaned with all the cleaning files then the problem is there. The files nForce and ATI IGP, should only be run if you have any of those and did uninstall it. The problems with those is that it also uses things that are on other motherboards. like raid chips and such. Also in the help file there is a FAQ there you can find a list what cleaning file is for what. So you problem is indeed a user error, you cleaned your system to much with filters that are not needed.

war59312 fow that hide and show details that should be possible to add, but for the more cleaning filters i have to look.

Vany7777 · Jan 29, 2005, 12:04 PM

Well, then it would seem the ATI IGP cleaning was what did my PC in. Thank you for the clarification!

soldier2nd · Jan 29, 2005, 09:37 PM

tried it and works wonderfuly
maybe in the next version you could add a feature to the live update that would tell you what new updated files there are instead of just listing that there are say 3 updates and maybe have the backup features on by default or on startup when you run the app for the first time to ask if you want to enable all the backup features or turn them off, also about the live update include an option of auto updating and inform you that there are updates instead of you having to do a manual update or add a feature to check for auto updates every xxx days or have the ability to turn it off.

crlorentzen · Jan 29, 2005, 09:45 PM

I agree I would like to see what the updates are actually, if new remover def. updated def. or if it is something else...

**Spike** · Jan 29, 2005, 10:38 PM

Ok i see some good ideas from all of you. I will work on a plan for me and see if it is possible to realize it. If it is possible i will implent them, but that will take some time, because i need to update the language files then also.

war59312 · Jan 29, 2005, 10:56 PM

All right spike thanks a lot.

Will

Redstone · Jan 30, 2005, 10:51 PM

[color=white]Well I downloaded it last night and used it during an upgrade from omega's 4.9 to 4.12. Not sure if 4.12 loads easier or of this program is better, but that was the smoothest driver upgrade that I can remember. [/color]
[color=white][/color]
[color=white]Thanks for your efforts by providing us with this neat updatable, non-intrustive utility.[/color]

Ferdinand_L · Jan 31, 2005, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferdinand_L

Great utility, I've been using it for some time now. However, I had to do a Windows XP reinstall and since that time, the Cab cleaner hangs and I have to do a hard reboot. I run it in safe mode and it runs for a while extracting file (I can tell by the hard disk light) and then it hangs. No cursor movement, can't Ctrl-Alt-Dlt out, nothing. I downloaded the new professional version and same thing. The driver cleaner part works great.

I know its not much info to go on but do you have any ideas?

Sys specs:

P4 3.4 Northwood OC 3.7
1 gig OCZ 3500
ABit IC-7 (intel 765 P chipset)
Maxtor 120 MB SATA
Sapphire ATI x800 XT
Windows Xp with SP1

Thanks, Ferd

UPDATE-

I ended up running cab cleaner in normal windows mode (I know I'm not supposed to do that). It completed normally, I then rebooted into safe mode and ran cab cleaner and it completed normally. I cleaned drivers, reinstalled new drivers, etc. and eveything seems to be working.

Thanks for your help and this great tool!

Ferd-

**Spike** · Jan 31, 2005, 07:18 PM

Ferdinand_L thank you for reporting that it works ok, maybe it was something that windows did and that it locked up. Glad it works now.

Lester40 · Feb 3, 2005, 09:35 AM

Hi Spike,

I wanted to add a note about the new Driver cleaner PE. I have used the last two versions of driver cleaner without any problems. As a matter of fact I thought my monitor was dying before I used Driver cleaner 3 for the first time. I had so many old ATI files its a wonder my display looked as good as it did. It must have been around the third week in January when the new cats from ati came out. Thats when I checked DH and saw that you had a new version of Driver cleaner. I downloaded Driver cleaner PE, installed it and used it like the previous Driver cleaner 3. Maybe that was my mistake in thinking it was to be used the same as the DC-3 version. But it missed up my computer. I did not have to do a Windows XP reinstall however. I did have to restore back from before I installed it. I then re-downloaded Driver Cleaner 3.3, after I made sure that Driver cleaner PE was uninstalled. Everthing worked just great after using Driver Cleaner 3.3. But useing the Pro version it missed me up. Since I am a novice I am sure this was my error. I read all the post and maybe it had something to do with the ATI IGP. Not sure, but I think I checked all the Ati files in the pro version so that must have been the problem. My question is, should I stick with Driver Cleaner 3.3 since it works so good for me or should I give PE another try? I think I download the Pro the first day it was out so what ever was the problem, is it fixed now? If there was no problem on day one of PE then I must have done something wrong. If the only difference in the Pro version and the 3.3 version is minmial I think i will stick with the 3.3 version since it worked like a dream. Thanks for any suggestions you or anybody can give.

**Spike** · Feb 3, 2005, 09:47 AM

Lester40 if you also selected ATI IGP then that could be the problem. ATI IGP is for motherboards that have an ati igp chipset and that should only be used if you want to remove the ati igp drivers. It removes also raid drivers and it can mess up other motherboard drivers, because some of the drivers are the same as by other motherboard brands. So if you would use it and not select that then it is good. ATI IGP was never in 3.3 so that is why you don't have the problem there.

The difference between 3.3 and PE is big. PE has a better code and better cleaning files and it can be updated with the live update.

Maybe you can give it another try and not select the ATI IGP then.

Lester40 · Feb 4, 2005, 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike

Lester40 if you also selected ATI IGP then that could be the problem. ATI IGP is for motherboards that have an ati igp chipset and that should only be used if you want to remove the ati igp drivers. It removes also raid drivers and it can mess up other motherboard drivers, because some of the drivers are the same as by other motherboard brands. So if you would use it and not select that then it is good. ATI IGP was never in 3.3 so that is why you don't have the problem there.

The difference between 3.3 and PE is big. PE has a better code and better cleaning files and it can be updated with the live update.

Maybe you can give it another try and not select the ATI IGP then.

Thanks Spike

. Thats what I will do. If ATI IGP is the only difference between the two, then that is what happened. I did not read the read me for the pro version cause I figured they where the same. I will not do that again. I always read the read me on everthing I install. But this time I did not and it missed me up. I learned from my mistake. I thought that the only difference between the Driver Cleaner 3.3 and the Pro version was that you could check all the Ati files at once and clean them instead of checking each one, one at a time and cleaning them. There again I learn from not reading the read me. If you dont mind I have a question about Driver Cleaner PE. Do you use it exactly like version 3.3, except for me not checking ATI IGP? Also, the way I was using version 3.3 was I was cleaning the Driver.cab files and the SP2 cab files each time I used the Driver cleaner. Is this ok to do and is it reconmended. Each time there seems to be more cab files cleaned. I thought I read that you only needed to clean the cab files once and thats it. But does it hurt to clean them every time? Thanks Spike for an excellent product and thanks so much for your help.

**Spike** · Feb 4, 2005, 10:31 AM

Lester40 the usage of Driver Cleaner 3.3 and PE is the same so the steps did not change. For Cab Cleaner you only need to run it 1 time, but it does not hurt to run it everytime.

soldier2nd · Feb 4, 2005, 06:50 PM

but run it it safe mode
not normal mode.

aaronbond · Feb 4, 2005, 07:43 PM

Hey Spike,

I was wondering if WFP (Windows File Protection) effects removal of files in Drivercleaner?

http://www.techspot.com/tweaks/wfp/index.shtml - Describes WFP
http://www.tcmagazine.info/comments.php?shownews=8032 - TC's program to disable and re-enable (umm not sure how the relationship is with TCMag here, but it's not to hot on guru3d so I apologize if you don't care for the link)

BTW program worked fine for me with Nforce drivers and Nvidia display drivers. I always have WFP off though so d/k if that might explain war59312 issue.

**Spike** · Feb 4, 2005, 09:45 PM

aaronbond thanks for the tip, i will read the articles and see what i can do and if it is needed to put something like this in DC PE.

Full Throttle · Feb 5, 2005, 06:22 AM

HI guys.

Sorry for being a tool. Was wondering if you could give a fool a hand.

Ok, there's a lot of software out there. I'd just like to make one last statement in my own defense. Most of that software doesn't require much more than "Next", "Next", "Next".

Apparently yours isn't one of them.

So I hosed windows because I selected everything related to ATI and hit the cleaner button. Apparently I may be a victim of ATI IGP removal which in turn may have screwed my SATA drivers. I'm just not sure.

It's definitely due to using (Misusing) Driver Cleaner. Cuz the very next reboot - well I haven't booted fully since my restart.

Here's what I have:

Asus A7N8X Deluxe, AMD 2100+, 512 MB RAM, DVD Burner, DVD Player, FDD, 1 36GB SATA 10k RPM drive, 1 60GB 7200 RPM IDE drive, Windows XP SP2, ASUS X800 XT PE.

After I didn't read the instructions and proceeded to ruin everything I ended up with this:

Sometimes keyboard wouldn't load when I got to the F8 screen. Most of the time I'd get Non-system disk errors. Sometimes when I had the menu up and running I'd try safe mode. It would crash on asking me if I wanted to run a347bus.sys.

I traced a fix to correct the agp driver.

Could anyone explain how to repair whatever files might have been deleted in the removal process?

I tried windows recovery console as well. I didn't get very far with that.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

**Spike** · Feb 5, 2005, 04:42 PM

Full Throttle indeed my program is not 1 that is only next next next, it is impossible to make it like that (also i find that people should read the readme). The file a347bus.sys is used by alcohol for the virtual drive and Driver Cleaner does not touch that file with any of the cleaning files. Have you tried to go into safe mode and reinstall the sata drivers in the device manager?

Full Throttle · Feb 5, 2005, 06:18 PM

I have tried safe mode but it crashes.

what happens is that it reaches the point where it would like to use that file but when I say yes or no it simply bsods.

I found this interesting tidbit on alcohol's website:

http://forum.alcohol-soft.com/index....ic=14109&st=40

first post.

What would you suggest? Reinstalling the raid driver?

I would try to fix it with BartPE but I can't get my UFD to boot. I can't burn a disk because my laptop doesn't have a cd burner.

**Spike** · Feb 5, 2005, 08:27 PM

Yes the best thing is to reinstall the raid drivers. Maybe you can do that with starting from the windows disk and than in the console.

Here is a list of the raid drivers that are deleted if you choose ATI IGP
System32\SilSupp.cpl
System32\Drivers\SiISupp.vxd
System32\Drivers\SI3112.sys
System32\Drivers\SI3112r.sys
System32\Drivers\SiWinAcc.sys
System32\Drivers\SI3112.mpd

Maybe you can copy some of them back manually. It is possible that not all are used.

Full Throttle · Feb 6, 2005, 05:31 AM

sweet. thanks a bunch.

Now if my motherboard's bios flash had gone according to plan....

I'll let you know if this fixes anything -that is if I can reset my bios.

Full Throttle · Feb 6, 2005, 06:49 AM

wonder of wonders - resetting the bios worked.

I am now up to date on my bios version.

My pc still will not boot to UFD. oh well.

Ok so I copied some files but I didn't have them all.

All I have is

Si3112r.inf
Si3112r.mpd
Si3112r.sys
SIISUPP.VXD
TxtSetup.oem

I copied them over using the recovery console. Still no go. As you can see I didn't have them all.. trying to find the rest.

Going snowboarding for 2 days. be back Monday night / tuesday

**Spike** · Feb 6, 2005, 10:02 AM

Full Throttle it is no problem that you don't have them all. I think you should try to remove alcohol in some way.

MNDS · Feb 7, 2005, 05:42 AM

This has honestly got to be one of my favorite utilities I currently use. Its so nice to not feel the need to clean install between each driver update released. Its also nice for me as I tend to switch between my two video cards fairly often and it cleans up the mess I leave behind

Keep up the good work guys, this is truely an excellent utility!

soldier2nd · Feb 8, 2005, 01:00 PM

but as always run it in safe mode or you will have problems.

Full Throttle · Feb 8, 2005, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike

Full Throttle it is no problem that you don't have them all. I think you should try to remove alcohol in some way.

Ok, pretty sure I can do that in recovery console. I can just disable it on boot.

However, on the alchohol website that didn't seem to solve the issue. Either way, again, I'll give it a shot and let you know if it's fixed.

BWX · Feb 8, 2005, 08:00 PM

I love the live update feature. Awesome work!

**Spike** · Feb 8, 2005, 11:16 PM

Full Throttle i know the problem you have is because the raid drivers are gone. You need to try to put them back in some way or a way to get into safe mode so you can install them again. If all failes then the only solution is to reinstall windows. I am also working on things to split the raid removal of nforce and ATI IGP in new files with the name Raid in it, i hope it will be more clear to people then.

argarc · Feb 9, 2005, 02:11 AM

hey spike, I've dled DC pro and wanted to ask a question about uninstalling nvidia drivers on a sp2 installed XP Profressional. I've made a clean installation of xp pro and after the installation of sp2, there isn't any entry about nvidia display adapters in "add/remove programs" although the system indicates the display adapter as GeForce4 MX 440 . Windows might have installed the drivers via sp2 (I hadn't installed any display adapter drivers before the installation of sp2) and now I want to know the most efficient way of uninstalling the drivers since there isn't any entry about "Nvidia Display Adapter" in "add/remove programs".

Also if you could explain "cab cleaner" and the way I should use it, it would be helpfull.

Good luck on your work. I'll be glad for your help. (My graphic card is Leadtek 64mb ddr geforce4 mx440 and as i said, i didn't install any nvidia drivers prior to the installation of sp2)

**Spike** · Feb 9, 2005, 09:17 PM

argarc

Make sure there is no way that the PC can connect to the internet so unplug your utp cable or the cable in your network card or something like that.

Goto safe mode.

run cab cleaner. It just needs to be run 1 time select driver.cab and when it is done select sp2.cab

Then in safe mode goto Control Panel > System > Hardware > Device Manager. By the Display Adapters right click on GeForce4 MX 440 and select Uninstall. Then when it is finished reboot and goto safe mode again. Run Driver Cleaner Pro and select nVidia. When it is done reboot and now you can goto Windows. If windows asks to install new drivers press cancel. You can now install the drivers you want.

Jan 29, 2005, 10:48 AM	Thread Starter #61
Spike Driver Cleaner Maker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Netherlands Posts: 2,085 Rep Power: 69 System Specs	Vany7777 if you cleaned with all the cleaning files then the problem is there. The files nForce and ATI IGP, should only be run if you have any of those and did uninstall it. The problems with those is that it also uses things that are on other motherboards. like raid chips and such. Also in the help file there is a FAQ there you can find a list what cleaning file is for what. So you problem is indeed a user error, you cleaned your system to much with filters that are not needed. war59312 fow that hide and show details that should be possible to add, but for the more cleaning filters i have to look. __________________

Jan 29, 2005, 09:45 PM	#64
crlorentzen DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 1,201 Rep Power: 0	I agree I would like to see what the updates are actually, if new remover def. updated def. or if it is something else... __________________

Jan 29, 2005, 10:38 PM	Thread Starter #65
Spike Driver Cleaner Maker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Netherlands Posts: 2,085 Rep Power: 69 System Specs	Ok i see some good ideas from all of you. I will work on a plan for me and see if it is possible to realize it. If it is possible i will implent them, but that will take some time, because i need to update the language files then also. __________________

Jan 29, 2005, 10:56 PM	#66
war59312 God Bless The U.S.A Join Date: May 2002 Location: USA Posts: 101 Rep Power: 0	All right spike thanks a lot. Will __________________ God Bless The U.S.A Thank You For Your Support.

Jan 30, 2005, 10:51 PM	#67
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Jan 29, 2005, 12:04 PM	#62
Vany7777 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 37 Rep Power: 0	Well, then it would seem the ATI IGP cleaning was what did my PC in. Thank you for the clarification!

Jan 29, 2005, 09:37 PM	#63
soldier2nd DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0	tried it and works wonderfuly maybe in the next version you could add a feature to the live update that would tell you what new updated files there are instead of just listing that there are say 3 updates and maybe have the backup features on by default or on startup when you run the app for the first time to ask if you want to enable all the backup features or turn them off, also about the live update include an option of auto updating and inform you that there are updates instead of you having to do a manual update or add a feature to check for auto updates every xxx days or have the ability to turn it off.

Jan 31, 2005, 07:18 PM	Thread Starter #69
Spike Driver Cleaner Maker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Netherlands Posts: 2,085 Rep Power: 69 System Specs	Ferdinand_L thank you for reporting that it works ok, maybe it was something that windows did and that it locked up. Glad it works now. __________________

Feb 3, 2005, 09:35 AM	#70
Lester40 HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Alabama, USA Posts: 21 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	I Had Problems With Driver Cleaner Pro Hi Spike, I wanted to add a note about the new Driver cleaner PE. I have used the last two versions of driver cleaner without any problems. As a matter of fact I thought my monitor was dying before I used Driver cleaner 3 for the first time. I had so many old ATI files its a wonder my display looked as good as it did. It must have been around the third week in January when the new cats from ati came out. Thats when I checked DH and saw that you had a new version of Driver cleaner. I downloaded Driver cleaner PE, installed it and used it like the previous Driver cleaner 3. Maybe that was my mistake in thinking it was to be used the same as the DC-3 version. But it missed up my computer. I did not have to do a Windows XP reinstall however. I did have to restore back from before I installed it. I then re-downloaded Driver Cleaner 3.3, after I made sure that Driver cleaner PE was uninstalled. Everthing worked just great after using Driver Cleaner 3.3. But useing the Pro version it missed me up. Since I am a novice I am sure this was my error. I read all the post and maybe it had something to do with the ATI IGP. Not sure, but I think I checked all the Ati files in the pro version so that must have been the problem. My question is, should I stick with Driver Cleaner 3.3 since it works so good for me or should I give PE another try? I think I download the Pro the first day it was out so what ever was the problem, is it fixed now? If there was no problem on day one of PE then I must have done something wrong. If the only difference in the Pro version and the 3.3 version is minmial I think i will stick with the 3.3 version since it worked like a dream. Thanks for any suggestions you or anybody can give. __________________ Take Care, Lester40 Dell Studio XPS 9100 i7-980X (12MB Cache, 3.33GHz), 12GB Tri Channel DDR3 SDRAM@1333MHz, 1TB SATA 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache, ATI Radeon HD5670 1GB GDDR5, Dell 2407WFP (Digital) Monitor, 16x DVD+/- RW, Windows 7 Ultimate, 64 bit.

Feb 3, 2005, 09:47 AM	Thread Starter #71
Spike Driver Cleaner Maker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Netherlands Posts: 2,085 Rep Power: 69 System Specs	Lester40 if you also selected ATI IGP then that could be the problem. ATI IGP is for motherboards that have an ati igp chipset and that should only be used if you want to remove the ati igp drivers. It removes also raid drivers and it can mess up other motherboard drivers, because some of the drivers are the same as by other motherboard brands. So if you would use it and not select that then it is good. ATI IGP was never in 3.3 so that is why you don't have the problem there. The difference between 3.3 and PE is big. PE has a better code and better cleaning files and it can be updated with the live update. Maybe you can give it another try and not select the ATI IGP then. __________________

Feb 4, 2005, 10:31 AM	Thread Starter #73
Spike Driver Cleaner Maker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Netherlands Posts: 2,085 Rep Power: 69 System Specs	Lester40 the usage of Driver Cleaner 3.3 and PE is the same so the steps did not change. For Cab Cleaner you only need to run it 1 time, but it does not hurt to run it everytime. __________________

Feb 4, 2005, 06:50 PM	#74
soldier2nd DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0	but run it it safe mode not normal mode.

Feb 4, 2005, 07:43 PM	#75
aaronbond DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: FL USA Posts: 86 Rep Power: 0	yeah Hey Spike, I was wondering if WFP (Windows File Protection) effects removal of files in Drivercleaner? http://www.techspot.com/tweaks/wfp/index.shtml - Describes WFP http://www.tcmagazine.info/comments.php?shownews=8032 - TC's program to disable and re-enable (umm not sure how the relationship is with TCMag here, but it's not to hot on guru3d so I apologize if you don't care for the link) BTW program worked fine for me with Nforce drivers and Nvidia display drivers. I always have WFP off though so d/k if that might explain war59312 issue. __________________ Windows® XP Pro w/ SP2 // Athlon 64® Venice 3500+ E3 2.2Ghz w/ MSI Neo2 Pro Plat // BFG 6800GT OC @ stock // ASUS K8N // 2GB Corsair Perf. 2.5-2-3-6 // 74GB WD Raptor // Creative Audigy2 Value Good Times!

Feb 4, 2005, 09:45 PM	Thread Starter #76
Spike Driver Cleaner Maker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Netherlands Posts: 2,085 Rep Power: 69 System Specs	aaronbond thanks for the tip, i will read the articles and see what i can do and if it is needed to put something like this in DC PE. __________________

Feb 5, 2005, 06:22 AM	#77
Full Throttle DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Boston Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	Oops HI guys. Sorry for being a tool. Was wondering if you could give a fool a hand. Ok, there's a lot of software out there. I'd just like to make one last statement in my own defense. Most of that software doesn't require much more than "Next", "Next", "Next". Apparently yours isn't one of them. So I hosed windows because I selected everything related to ATI and hit the cleaner button. Apparently I may be a victim of ATI IGP removal which in turn may have screwed my SATA drivers. I'm just not sure. It's definitely due to using (Misusing) Driver Cleaner. Cuz the very next reboot - well I haven't booted fully since my restart. Here's what I have: Asus A7N8X Deluxe, AMD 2100+, 512 MB RAM, DVD Burner, DVD Player, FDD, 1 36GB SATA 10k RPM drive, 1 60GB 7200 RPM IDE drive, Windows XP SP2, ASUS X800 XT PE. After I didn't read the instructions and proceeded to ruin everything I ended up with this: Sometimes keyboard wouldn't load when I got to the F8 screen. Most of the time I'd get Non-system disk errors. Sometimes when I had the menu up and running I'd try safe mode. It would crash on asking me if I wanted to run a347bus.sys. I traced a fix to correct the agp driver. Could anyone explain how to repair whatever files might have been deleted in the removal process? I tried windows recovery console as well. I didn't get very far with that. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Feb 5, 2005, 04:42 PM	Thread Starter #78
Spike Driver Cleaner Maker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Netherlands Posts: 2,085 Rep Power: 69 System Specs	Full Throttle indeed my program is not 1 that is only next next next, it is impossible to make it like that (also i find that people should read the readme). The file a347bus.sys is used by alcohol for the virtual drive and Driver Cleaner does not touch that file with any of the cleaning files. Have you tried to go into safe mode and reinstall the sata drivers in the device manager? __________________

Feb 5, 2005, 06:18 PM	#79
Full Throttle DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Boston Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	I have tried safe mode but it crashes. what happens is that it reaches the point where it would like to use that file but when I say yes or no it simply bsods. I found this interesting tidbit on alcohol's website: http://forum.alcohol-soft.com/index....ic=14109&st=40 first post. What would you suggest? Reinstalling the raid driver? I would try to fix it with BartPE but I can't get my UFD to boot. I can't burn a disk because my laptop doesn't have a cd burner.

Feb 5, 2005, 08:27 PM	Thread Starter #80
Spike Driver Cleaner Maker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Netherlands Posts: 2,085 Rep Power: 69 System Specs	Yes the best thing is to reinstall the raid drivers. Maybe you can do that with starting from the windows disk and than in the console. Here is a list of the raid drivers that are deleted if you choose ATI IGP System32\SilSupp.cpl System32\Drivers\SiISupp.vxd System32\Drivers\SI3112.sys System32\Drivers\SI3112r.sys System32\Drivers\SiWinAcc.sys System32\Drivers\SI3112.mpd Maybe you can copy some of them back manually. It is possible that not all are used. __________________

Feb 6, 2005, 05:31 AM	#81
Full Throttle DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Boston Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	sweet. thanks a bunch. Now if my motherboard's bios flash had gone according to plan.... I'll let you know if this fixes anything -that is if I can reset my bios.

Feb 6, 2005, 06:49 AM	#82
Full Throttle DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Boston Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	wonder of wonders - resetting the bios worked. I am now up to date on my bios version. My pc still will not boot to UFD. oh well. Ok so I copied some files but I didn't have them all. All I have is Si3112r.inf Si3112r.mpd Si3112r.sys SIISUPP.VXD TxtSetup.oem I copied them over using the recovery console. Still no go. As you can see I didn't have them all.. trying to find the rest. Going snowboarding for 2 days. be back Monday night / tuesday

Feb 6, 2005, 10:02 AM	Thread Starter #83
Spike Driver Cleaner Maker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Netherlands Posts: 2,085 Rep Power: 69 System Specs	Full Throttle it is no problem that you don't have them all. I think you should try to remove alcohol in some way. __________________

Feb 7, 2005, 05:42 AM	#84
MNDS DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: NY Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	This has honestly got to be one of my favorite utilities I currently use. Its so nice to not feel the need to clean install between each driver update released. Its also nice for me as I tend to switch between my two video cards fairly often and it cleans up the mess I leave behind Keep up the good work guys, this is truely an excellent utility! __________________ Pentium D 830 2 x 512 Megs PC5400 Corsair XMS2 DDR2 Ram Biostar 945P Mobo eVGA PCI-Express 6800GT w/ NV5Silencer PCI SB X-Fi Xtreme Music

Feb 8, 2005, 01:00 PM	#85
soldier2nd DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0	but as always run it in safe mode or you will have problems.

Feb 8, 2005, 08:00 PM	#87
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,665 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	I love the live update feature. Awesome work! __________________

Feb 8, 2005, 11:16 PM	Thread Starter #88
Spike Driver Cleaner Maker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Netherlands Posts: 2,085 Rep Power: 69 System Specs	Full Throttle i know the problem you have is because the raid drivers are gone. You need to try to put them back in some way or a way to get into safe mode so you can install them again. If all failes then the only solution is to reinstall windows. I am also working on things to split the raid removal of nforce and ATI IGP in new files with the name Raid in it, i hope it will be more clear to people then. __________________

Feb 9, 2005, 02:11 AM	#89
argarc DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	hey spike, I've dled DC pro and wanted to ask a question about uninstalling nvidia drivers on a sp2 installed XP Profressional. I've made a clean installation of xp pro and after the installation of sp2, there isn't any entry about nvidia display adapters in "add/remove programs" although the system indicates the display adapter as GeForce4 MX 440 . Windows might have installed the drivers via sp2 (I hadn't installed any display adapter drivers before the installation of sp2) and now I want to know the most efficient way of uninstalling the drivers since there isn't any entry about "Nvidia Display Adapter" in "add/remove programs". Also if you could explain "cab cleaner" and the way I should use it, it would be helpfull. Good luck on your work. I'll be glad for your help. (My graphic card is Leadtek 64mb ddr geforce4 mx440 and as i said, i didn't install any nvidia drivers prior to the installation of sp2)

Feb 9, 2005, 09:17 PM	Thread Starter #90
Spike Driver Cleaner Maker Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Netherlands Posts: 2,085 Rep Power: 69 System Specs	argarc Make sure there is no way that the PC can connect to the internet so unplug your utp cable or the cable in your network card or something like that. Goto safe mode. run cab cleaner. It just needs to be run 1 time select driver.cab and when it is done select sp2.cab Then in safe mode goto Control Panel > System > Hardware > Device Manager. By the Display Adapters right click on GeForce4 MX 440 and select Uninstall. Then when it is finished reboot and goto safe mode again. Run Driver Cleaner Pro and select nVidia. When it is done reboot and now you can goto Windows. If windows asks to install new drivers press cancel. You can now install the drivers you want. __________________