distorted reality

danjufo · Apr 27, 2005, 10:40 AM

been a long time..

heres a pic i just done, not sure on it. The concept is reasonable i guess, not sure i pulled it off though. Tell me what you think about everything - concept - colours - name - anything please.

Well here it is..

Dom · Apr 27, 2005, 10:47 AM

Nice.

daedal · Apr 27, 2005, 12:12 PM

Looks good, but I do have a few suggestions for ya.

1. Your tree is lacking shadows, especialy where your "Fairy island thing" is. Err, what I mean is that I think you should airbrush some shadows on the edges of your holes to create a sense of depth. Also try airbrushing some slight shadows behind the waterfall as it would usually obstruct a good ammount of light.

2. Your "fairy dust" uses some brush strokes that are slightly too big (star forms) and all in the same alignment. You can adjust this in the Stroke settings under Alignment and Size Jitter I believe, which will randomly choose a rotation degree and size as you stroke for a greater random effect. I would also add a very subtle outer glow to these for a more mystical effect.

3. Try and add a 1px white trim inside your border to seperate your border from your image as your background is the same color.

I see you're on DA; let me know if you need some space to host your website or something. You've got some nice skills. Great job, and awesome concept!

Falstaff · Apr 27, 2005, 01:09 PM

this reminds me of an acid trip man...very surreal, and I supose that was the intention...
I know you wanted to do something like it again, I enjoy your macarbe work, lets see more...woo hoo
oh and by the way...I never did acid really..........really........really.......really. ..........really.........
what?

Drakon · Apr 27, 2005, 02:14 PM

interesting, Dan

fireball · Apr 27, 2005, 03:46 PM

Nice work!

shortstuff · Apr 27, 2005, 10:32 PM

Nice work Dan.

Trunks0 · Apr 28, 2005, 10:19 AM

Vary cool and interesting image. Well done

Mr cairo · Apr 28, 2005, 11:51 AM

dont post in here much but i have to say i like that

pr0digal jenius · Apr 28, 2005, 02:31 PM

that's very cool, but I do agree with daedal on the shadowing.

Also, where the "hole" is, I might try a slight white glow coming out to make it look like light is coming out of it into the darkness, much how you see a ray of light through a window in a dark cathedral.

danjufo · Apr 29, 2005, 09:18 AM

i tried adding a glow but the cutting on the right was so small that the glow took away nearly all of the image beneath and made it hard to understand what was going on. i could have made the glow smaller but it wouldnt have looked good. I guess i could try to add some sun beam\strokes from within the tree holes. I will try, will have a refurbished version soon..

danjufo · Apr 29, 2005, 10:16 AM

I have given a go at the things mentioned before, such as shadows the dust and lighting. I can't do the lighting though, does anyone know a good tutorial? i can make the right shapes for abstract light beams and such it just never looks right \ realistic. here are my attempts till i gave up and cried lol -

pr0digal jenius · Apr 29, 2005, 01:38 PM

I like the one on the right

danjufo · Apr 29, 2005, 01:45 PM

what should i do about the lighting though?

The one you like with the little beams, they should come our from one whole side right? the smaller one looks alright but the other looks horrible, should it only come from the corner \ the whole side do you think?

Red_Death · May 8, 2005, 06:54 AM

I like the one on the bottom. It appears like there is one light source behind and in the center of the two holes in tree bark. Looks like the beams are coming from the right place on the second one but the angle is a little sharp. The first one is strange, can't identify what is making the light, looks like flashlights or something (more abstract). Second one is more realistic. Depends on what you're going for. If you want them more realistic, here's an idea to figure them out:

Experiment for determining light angle.
You might try getting a candle and placing it a foot or two behind a piece of paper that has 2 holes in it about the same size, shape, & location as the ones in you image. Turn the lights down or off. Then imagine that you have a piece of plexiglass in front of your face (vertical-straight up and down) and pretend you are tracing the lines that the light beams travel on (the beams made by the candle light coming through). The angle you would have seen on the plexiglass (if it wasn't imaginary) could be measured with protractor or just hold the protractor up like it was the plexiglass. Then you could type the angle you get on the protractor into the program.

What program(s) are you using?

Also you could try checking out info on Vanishing points.

Nice job on the tree bark and fairies. Looks magical. Nice aura.

Apr 27, 2005, 10:40 AM	#1
danjufo DH.Sig.Maker Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: england Posts: 1,231 Rep Power: 0	distorted reality been a long time.. heres a pic i just done, not sure on it. The concept is reasonable i guess, not sure i pulled it off though. Tell me what you think about everything - concept - colours - name - anything please. Well here it is.. __________________ [COLOR=dimgray]DeviantArt Gallery[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]How to add your signature image[/COLOR] [COLOR=white]Signature + Avatar Rules[/COLOR]

Apr 27, 2005, 12:12 PM	#3
daedal Uber Coffee Drinker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Gatineau, Quebec Posts: 2,250 Rep Power: 0	Looks good, but I do have a few suggestions for ya. 1. Your tree is lacking shadows, especialy where your "Fairy island thing" is. Err, what I mean is that I think you should airbrush some shadows on the edges of your holes to create a sense of depth. Also try airbrushing some slight shadows behind the waterfall as it would usually obstruct a good ammount of light. 2. Your "fairy dust" uses some brush strokes that are slightly too big (star forms) and all in the same alignment. You can adjust this in the Stroke settings under Alignment and Size Jitter I believe, which will randomly choose a rotation degree and size as you stroke for a greater random effect. I would also add a very subtle outer glow to these for a more mystical effect. 3. Try and add a 1px white trim inside your border to seperate your border from your image as your background is the same color. I see you're on DA; let me know if you need some space to host your website or something. You've got some nice skills. Great job, and awesome concept! __________________

Apr 27, 2005, 01:09 PM	#4
Falstaff Old Codger Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: USAFA Posts: 19,048 Rep Power: 207	this reminds me of an acid trip man...very surreal, and I supose that was the intention... I know you wanted to do something like it again, I enjoy your macarbe work, lets see more...woo hoo oh and by the way...I never did acid really..........really........really.......really. ..........really......... what? __________________ "Inspiration is always a surprising visitor."

Apr 27, 2005, 03:46 PM	#6
fireball HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,899 Rep Power: 0	Nice work! __________________ [color=gray][/color]

Apr 27, 2005, 10:32 PM	#7
shortstuff Sweetness Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,835 Rep Power: 0	Nice work Dan. __________________ [color=Indigo]Joe "Roadee" Dawson R.I.P my friend. You will be missed [/color] If we keep doing what we've always done, we'll keep getting what we've always got.

Apr 27, 2005, 10:47 AM	#2
Dom DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 12,940 Rep Power: 0	Nice.

Apr 27, 2005, 02:14 PM	#5
Drakon DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Floatin'... Posts: 4,957 Rep Power: 0	interesting, Dan

Apr 28, 2005, 10:19 AM	#8
Trunks0 Keeping an open mind Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver,B.C.,Canada Posts: 552 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Vary cool and interesting image. Well done __________________

Apr 28, 2005, 11:51 AM	#9
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Apr 28, 2005, 02:31 PM	#10
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	that's very cool, but I do agree with daedal on the shadowing. Also, where the "hole" is, I might try a slight white glow coming out to make it look like light is coming out of it into the darkness, much how you see a ray of light through a window in a dark cathedral.

Apr 29, 2005, 09:18 AM	Thread Starter #11
danjufo DH.Sig.Maker Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: england Posts: 1,231 Rep Power: 0	i tried adding a glow but the cutting on the right was so small that the glow took away nearly all of the image beneath and made it hard to understand what was going on. i could have made the glow smaller but it wouldnt have looked good. I guess i could try to add some sun beam\strokes from within the tree holes. I will try, will have a refurbished version soon.. __________________ [COLOR=dimgray]DeviantArt Gallery[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]How to add your signature image[/COLOR] [COLOR=white]Signature + Avatar Rules[/COLOR]

Apr 29, 2005, 10:16 AM	Thread Starter #12
danjufo DH.Sig.Maker Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: england Posts: 1,231 Rep Power: 0	I have given a go at the things mentioned before, such as shadows the dust and lighting. I can't do the lighting though, does anyone know a good tutorial? i can make the right shapes for abstract light beams and such it just never looks right \ realistic. here are my attempts till i gave up and cried lol - __________________ [COLOR=dimgray]DeviantArt Gallery[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]How to add your signature image[/COLOR] [COLOR=white]Signature + Avatar Rules[/COLOR]

Apr 29, 2005, 01:38 PM	#13
pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	I like the one on the right

Apr 29, 2005, 01:45 PM	Thread Starter #14
danjufo DH.Sig.Maker Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: england Posts: 1,231 Rep Power: 0	what should i do about the lighting though? The one you like with the little beams, they should come our from one whole side right? the smaller one looks alright but the other looks horrible, should it only come from the corner \ the whole side do you think? __________________ [COLOR=dimgray]DeviantArt Gallery[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]How to add your signature image[/COLOR] [COLOR=white]Signature + Avatar Rules[/COLOR]

May 8, 2005, 06:54 AM	#15
Red_Death DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MO Posts: 218 Rep Power: 0	I like the one on the bottom. It appears like there is one light source behind and in the center of the two holes in tree bark. Looks like the beams are coming from the right place on the second one but the angle is a little sharp. The first one is strange, can't identify what is making the light, looks like flashlights or something (more abstract). Second one is more realistic. Depends on what you're going for. If you want them more realistic, here's an idea to figure them out: Experiment for determining light angle. You might try getting a candle and placing it a foot or two behind a piece of paper that has 2 holes in it about the same size, shape, & location as the ones in you image. Turn the lights down or off. Then imagine that you have a piece of plexiglass in front of your face (vertical-straight up and down) and pretend you are tracing the lines that the light beams travel on (the beams made by the candle light coming through). The angle you would have seen on the plexiglass (if it wasn't imaginary) could be measured with protractor or just hold the protractor up like it was the plexiglass. Then you could type the angle you get on the protractor into the program. What program(s) are you using? Also you could try checking out info on Vanishing points. Nice job on the tree bark and fairies. Looks magical. Nice aura. __________________ [color=Red]Shawnna[/color] \| [color=Red]RED DEATH[/color] \| [color=Red] Darkness and Decay and the[/color] \| [color=Red]RED DEATH[/color] \| [color=Red]held Illimitable Dominion Over All!!![/color] Last edited by Red_Death; May 8, 2005 at 07:02 AM.