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Old Feb 26, 2009, 11:50 AM   #1
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OEM or not?

I've been thinking.

Will I benefit performance wise if I install a normal Vista and manually install hardware drivers instead of keeping this OEM installation?
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Old Feb 26, 2009, 12:48 PM   #2
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Re: OEM or not?

I have no idea what your question is. Please elaborate.
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Re: OEM or not?

Not sure on the mobile drivers but on my last install of Vista on the new machine I found the Vista loaded drivers were way out of date and you may find that with your OEM installation.
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Re: OEM or not?

OEM operating system should be the same as retail, but the driver package would be different. I've been running an OEM XP on a "non-oem" machine for years, and have two retail versions on other machines...... there's no difference in the OS.... except with oem microsoft won't give you support...... they pass that off to the "original manufacturer".

I know you are talking about vista, but I would imagine things to be the same.
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Re: OEM or not?

I'm guessing by the question...

the question is

OEM Windows Vista

vs

Retail Windows Vista

And by oem, your referring to the copy of vista that is likely already preinstalled on your computer

Cause remember there is a difference between:

OEM Preinstalled Windows Vista

OEM Microsoft Supplied Windows Vista

Retail Windows Vista

There is no difference between the microsoft oem and retail aside from being limited on the transfer of that copy of windows to another machine (OEM basically states that you cannot move it to another machine, and under specific circumstances, you can only move it once) where as retail you can move an number of times.

Now if you can find an unmodified or non recovery style orginal Vista OEM disk, you can install that.. use the OEM cd key with it... and volla your set, don't have to buy a new copy of windows or anything.
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Re: OEM or not?

Ok, so what I mean is if I would see a difference in performance if I would install a clean Vista instead of the pre-installed one and only install whatever utilities I want and not use the pre-installed ones that came with the laptop. I gather there's a lot of crap installed here considering that it took 3 DVD's to create the recovery discs.

All depending if I can find relevant drivers of course. As far as I can tell when I check the support site the drivers that are downloadable from Fujitsu-Siemens there's no newer ones avaliable.

My question is not about OEM vs retail.
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Re: OEM or not?

If you uninstall all the software you don't need, you should in theory be fine.
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Re: OEM or not?

In theory yes but I know how it is with these things. I doubt vista is any different than xp in this fashion.
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Re: OEM or not?

in theory...

toshiba's laptops tend to leave a wack of garbage in their wake of uninstalling.... dell and hp are just as bad...

you can sit there sometimes for an hour just uninstalling the crap only to find tons of it's feices laying around the system... Or leaving the system in a swiss cheese state due to the uninstalled components not reinserting the orginal windows supplied services and components.
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Re: OEM or not?

Precisely my point Judas. That's why I wonder if I would benefit from a clean installation instead, as long as I can find all relevant drivers.
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Re: OEM or not?

yeah laptop manufacturers can be a pain when it comes to the more unique manufacturers devices that they change the IDs on making it nearly impossible for windows or standard refference drivers to figure out what it is...

toshiba is bad for that...
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Re: OEM or not?

Toshiba's european driver site is pretty good, I managed to find all the drivers for my Tecra A4 there, you can find it here
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Re: OEM or not?

That's all good but I don't have a Toshiba.

I can find all drivers on Fujitsu-Siemens but they are all fairly old. At least when it comes to the gfx driver they seem to have altered it somehow because I tried to mod the latest and installed it with no luck. I fear it might be the same with other drivers as well so when it comes to that bit it seems I won't be able to get things snappier. It's all those extra apps that are preinstalled, and things like a trial version of Office that I don't want or need. But as Judas said, even if I uninstall these things now they leave holes that makes the system run a bit slower.
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