Some serious help needed (booting)

TJ- · Feb 22, 2005, 10:23 AM

i just deleted my linux partition with PM8 and merged the 2 existing partions together. Rebooted the comp and came up with this message from grub

i tried all possible commands and nothing seems to work...

did i just destroy my laptops hd because nothing is working... safe mode doesnt even work. I used the product recovery cds and it just came back to that message.

Only thing i havnt tried and dont want to try is reinstalling fedora core...

what shoud i do ???

UberLord · Feb 22, 2005, 01:34 PM

OK - it's a scary screen, but it's fixable. Here's a quick rundown on what you did wrong.

GRUB gets installed to the disks MBR - but only grub.
The grub.conf (or menu.lst) file that powers the grub menu is normally held inside your /boot/grub partition which was probably lost when you erased it!

Now - how to fix it?

Well, if you can remember how it was setup you just type the commands in

Code:

root(hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda6
boot

If you can't get it to work, you'll have to describe your hard drive layout

TJ- · Feb 22, 2005, 01:44 PM

im currenty installing fedora core 3 again and hopefully that will work...

if it doesnt and what u posted dont work how to i tell you my hd layout... what does that mean?

TJ- · Feb 22, 2005, 01:52 PM

sould i install fc3 again... im at the point where its no turning back.... i wait til i see what u say

UberLord · Feb 22, 2005, 01:53 PM

I meant the exact partition layout of the disk

You shouldn't have to re-install again.
At most, reboot using a recuse/live cd and chroot to your linux parition and do the following

Code:

grub
root (hd0,0)
setup (hd0)
quit
reboot

Should fix it

TJ- · Feb 22, 2005, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UberLord

I meant the exact partition layout of the disk

hmmmm

its a 40 gig and i split it in half 20/20

i just did the automatic install in fedora core setup, i dont dare mess with the ntfs, fat32 stuff...

when i merged them i deleted the fedora core and the swap file then merged them together....

anything else..?

md5 · Feb 22, 2005, 01:58 PM

Seems like grub can't find your linux partition

Try removing it from the MBR (Master Boot Record). You can do that via the Windows setup CD, by selecting the partition and choosing to "Fix" the Windows installation on it

If that doesn't work, you might want to use a rescue CD:
- build one using BartPE or 911 rescue CD
- try Winternals ERD Commander or
- try Winternals Administrator's Pak
- try a free rescue CD:
--- http://rescuecd.sourceforge.net/
--- http://www.sysresccd.org/
--- http://www.inside-security.de/insert_en.html

TJ- · Feb 22, 2005, 02:02 PM

i type grub and
-not recognized command
i type root and
-(hd0 ,1) File system type unknown, partition type 0x0
i type setup and
-unrecognisezed device string...

???

Quote:

Originally Posted by md5

Seems like grub can't find your linux partition

Try removing it from the MBR (Master Boot Record). You can do that via the Windows setup CD, by selecting the partition and choosing to "Fix" the Windows installation on it

If that doesn't work, you might want to use a rescue CD:
- build one using BartPE or 911 rescue CD
- try Winternals ERD Commander or
- try Winternals Administrator's Pak
- try a free rescue CD:
--- http://rescuecd.sourceforge.net/
--- http://www.sysresccd.org/
--- http://www.inside-security.de/insert_en.html

you do know this is a laptop...

all i have is 3 recovery cd's.. i used them rebooted and it wouldnt get past that menu i posted. I also cant use rescue cd cause i got nothing to rescure, the only thing i can do is go into bios...

i got a win xp cd from my desktop, would that work if i used that...???

UberLord · Feb 22, 2005, 02:06 PM

OK - you erased your entire linux partition.
I'm going to assume that whatever tool you used fscked up.

You'll need to reinstall FC3 then

TJ- · Feb 22, 2005, 02:08 PM

no chance in using a win xp cd...? not the recovery disks...

can you use them for laptops

UberLord · Feb 22, 2005, 02:12 PM

Well, your windows parition may be OK - if you installed windows XP first, here's how to boot to it from your grub

Code:

rootnoverify (hd0,0)
makeactive
chainloader +1
boot

But that only boots you into Windows - you'll still need to reinstall FC3

TJ- · Feb 22, 2005, 03:58 PM

problem fixed... heres what i did

put in a wix sp2 cd... ran the part where it reformats the hd and delets everything. Then when it asked me for my serial number while setting up windows i turned off the comp and loaded the recovery cds. And it worked. I know wasnt the smartest way but i need my lappy to work for tommorw so it was the quickest...

md5 · Feb 22, 2005, 08:08 PM

Ah well at least it's working now

Good news

Feb 22, 2005, 10:23 AM	#1
TJ- DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Infinity Posts: 3,679 Rep Power: 0	Some serious help needed (booting) i just deleted my linux partition with PM8 and merged the 2 existing partions together. Rebooted the comp and came up with this message from grub i tried all possible commands and nothing seems to work... did i just destroy my laptops hd because nothing is working... safe mode doesnt even work. I used the product recovery cds and it just came back to that message. Only thing i havnt tried and dont want to try is reinstalling fedora core... what shoud i do ??? __________________ new sig comming soon

Feb 22, 2005, 01:34 PM	#2
UberLord A Legend in Underwear Join Date: May 2002 Location: Unknown Posts: 5,255 Rep Power: 0	OK - it's a scary screen, but it's fixable. Here's a quick rundown on what you did wrong. GRUB gets installed to the disks MBR - but only grub. The grub.conf (or menu.lst) file that powers the grub menu is normally held inside your /boot/grub partition which was probably lost when you erased it! Now - how to fix it? Well, if you can remember how it was setup you just type the commands in Code: root(hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda6 boot If you can't get it to work, you'll have to describe your hard drive layout __________________ Gentoo Linux - Developer (baselayout) Read my blog "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen Roberts

Feb 22, 2005, 01:44 PM	Thread Starter #3
TJ- DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Infinity Posts: 3,679 Rep Power: 0	im currenty installing fedora core 3 again and hopefully that will work... if it doesnt and what u posted dont work how to i tell you my hd layout... what does that mean? __________________ new sig comming soon

Feb 22, 2005, 01:52 PM	Thread Starter #4
TJ- DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Infinity Posts: 3,679 Rep Power: 0	sould i install fc3 again... im at the point where its no turning back.... i wait til i see what u say __________________ new sig comming soon

Feb 22, 2005, 01:53 PM	#5
UberLord A Legend in Underwear Join Date: May 2002 Location: Unknown Posts: 5,255 Rep Power: 0	I meant the exact partition layout of the disk You shouldn't have to re-install again. At most, reboot using a recuse/live cd and chroot to your linux parition and do the following Code: grub root (hd0,0) setup (hd0) quit reboot Should fix it __________________ Gentoo Linux - Developer (baselayout) Read my blog "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen Roberts

Feb 22, 2005, 01:58 PM	#7
md5 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Inside DriverHeaven Posts: 856 Rep Power: 0	Seems like grub can't find your linux partition Try removing it from the MBR (Master Boot Record). You can do that via the Windows setup CD, by selecting the partition and choosing to "Fix" the Windows installation on it If that doesn't work, you might want to use a rescue CD: - build one using BartPE or 911 rescue CD - try Winternals ERD Commander or - try Winternals Administrator's Pak - try a free rescue CD: --- http://rescuecd.sourceforge.net/ --- http://www.sysresccd.org/ --- http://www.inside-security.de/insert_en.html __________________

Feb 22, 2005, 02:06 PM	#9
UberLord A Legend in Underwear Join Date: May 2002 Location: Unknown Posts: 5,255 Rep Power: 0	OK - you erased your entire linux partition. I'm going to assume that whatever tool you used fscked up. You'll need to reinstall FC3 then __________________ Gentoo Linux - Developer (baselayout) Read my blog "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen Roberts

Feb 22, 2005, 02:08 PM	Thread Starter #10
TJ- DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Infinity Posts: 3,679 Rep Power: 0	no chance in using a win xp cd...? not the recovery disks... can you use them for laptops __________________ new sig comming soon

Feb 22, 2005, 02:12 PM	#11
UberLord A Legend in Underwear Join Date: May 2002 Location: Unknown Posts: 5,255 Rep Power: 0	Well, your windows parition may be OK - if you installed windows XP first, here's how to boot to it from your grub Code: rootnoverify (hd0,0) makeactive chainloader +1 boot But that only boots you into Windows - you'll still need to reinstall FC3 __________________ Gentoo Linux - Developer (baselayout) Read my blog "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen Roberts

Feb 22, 2005, 03:58 PM	Thread Starter #12
TJ- DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Infinity Posts: 3,679 Rep Power: 0	problem fixed... heres what i did put in a wix sp2 cd... ran the part where it reformats the hd and delets everything. Then when it asked me for my serial number while setting up windows i turned off the comp and loaded the recovery cds. And it worked. I know wasnt the smartest way but i need my lappy to work for tommorw so it was the quickest... __________________ new sig comming soon

Feb 22, 2005, 08:08 PM	#13
md5 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Inside DriverHeaven Posts: 856 Rep Power: 0	Ah well at least it's working now Good news __________________