which linux for data recovery?

CDsDontBurn · Apr 30, 2006, 11:44 PM

i'm currently d/ling knoppix live and ubuntu live to hopefully be able to retrieve some data off of a friend's laptop i'm fixing. now my question is, will i be able to network the laptop to my network here at home in able to retrieve the data?

for the details (i don't want to start 2 threads of the same thing), whenever i try to boot up the laptop, i get an "unmountable_bood_volume" blue screen, so i thought, taking the drive out and putting it inside an external enclosure would allow me to extract the data, but it didn't. it appears that the partition on the laptop has been deleted so on my machine windows, recognizes the laptop drive as a "RAW" partition and "0 bytes" on the drive. but i'm pretty sure that since the machine still tries to boot into windows, that the data on the drive is still there.

i've seen this done before, but the data was put on a flash drive, not transfered over a network.

PangingJr · May 1, 2006, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

for the details (i don't want to start 2 threads of the same thing), whenever i try to boot up the laptop, i get an

"unmountable_bood_volume"

blue screen,

you mean "unmountable_boot_volume" ?

if so, google unmountable_boot_volume, and you might be able to fix the booting problem on the problem system.

and this below link take you to the serch results from support.microsoft.com.
http://www.google.com/search?as_q=un....microsoft.com

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Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

so i thought, taking the drive out and putting it inside an external enclosure would allow me to extract the data, but it didn't.

anyway, since you can do that, and you cannot get the system to boot into Windows, you might want to try recovering the data off the laptop's drive by using data recovery program within one of a working Windows system?
you'll need to locate a data recovery program that can do the works with an external drive?

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Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

i'm currently d/ling knoppix live and ubuntu live to hopefully be able to retrieve some data off of a friend's laptop i'm fixing. now my question is, will i be able to network the laptop to my network here at home in able to retrieve the data?

you might not be able to network the two computer systems, the Linux's and the dead (or corrupted partition of filesystem) Windows.

sorry, you want to run the Linux live CD under the problem system. but anyway, you might want to consider using a Bart's PE boot CD.

get a data recovery program plugin, and then boot the problem system with the CD and run the program under the Bart's PE.

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CDsDontBurn · May 1, 2006, 04:17 AM

sorry for the typo, yes, it's boot, not bood

after looking at MSFT's website, i remembered something i did not mention. i already tried to do the windows recovery, but it didn't work. reason for it, is because the machine is a Dell, and apparently, Dell placed an administrator password, preventing me from continuing the recovery process.

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5. At the command prompt, on the drive where Windows is installed, type chkdsk /r, and then press ENTER.

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Originally Posted by Pangin Jr.

you might not be able to network the two computer systems, the Linux's and the dead (or corrupted partition of filesystem) Windows.

sorry, you want to run the Linux live CD under the problem system.

i'm looking all over the place to get this thing networked, but i'm not coming to any results. it might also help if the version of knoppix i d/led was in english or even spanish

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and yes, i'm running the live disc on the laptop (corruped machine), not any other machine

oh yea, i tried to copy the information over to my flash drive, but it wouldn't let me, it gave me an error (and since it's in german, i don't know what it says) my guess is that i have to unlock my flash drive before i can copy anything onto it?

PangingJr · May 1, 2006, 04:21 AM

i forgot about this earlier... you might also want to create a all sectors 1:1 image of the problem drive/partition and try recovering the needed files using the disk/partition imaging program's image or partition explorer.

this is all depends... you might be able to get all the files back easier than you think, and you can do it in any working Windows system. you need a lot of free hard drive space on a network machine or some of the empty CDs/DVDs, and a disk/partition imaging program that also has an ability to view and export the files from the image file(s).

CDsDontBurn · May 3, 2006, 02:03 AM

that's one thing i don't have alot of is space. the amount of data to be recovered is about 40Gb, and on my machine, i have appx. 25Gb free total. i will have to use my sister's machine to finish the data transfer.

PangingJr · May 3, 2006, 02:32 AM

depending on the program you are using... if you happen to have Paragon Drive Backup,
when the Drive Backup works in the sector-to-sector copying mode, it bypasses the analysis of used partitioning scheme, file system types and file system consistency of all partitions. it saves all sectors to the image. however, the use of the compression function will reduce the image size.

CDsDontBurn · May 3, 2006, 09:33 PM

yea...that's the thing, i don't have Paragon Drive Backup. if it happens to be freeware, where can i find it, or where can i purchase it. or is there another program like it that will do the same thing? I have partition magic 7.0, but i don't think it will do anything near compared to what Paragon Drive Backup program does according to what you have said.

PangingJr · May 4, 2006, 02:38 AM

i did mention that you need to use a disk/partition imaging program...
partition magic 7.0 is not a disk/partition imaging program. it cannot make a disk/partition image, i'm sure if it can export the files after its copy disk operation either. i guess i'm out of an idea to help you.

CDsDontBurn · May 4, 2006, 07:07 AM

well, i know you've been helping me the best you can, and i appreciate it.

the version of knoppix i have can view all the files that are on the hard drive, i just need to transfer them onto a working windows machine before i format the drive.

the dysfunctional drive is NTFS free

RIV@NVX · May 4, 2006, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

well, i know you've been helping me the best you can, and i appreciate it.

the version of knoppix i have can view all the files that are on the hard drive, i just need to transfer them onto a working windows machine before i format the drive.

the dysfunctional drive is NTFS free

So, you just need to make Samba working so you can transfer the files or is there anything else?

CDsDontBurn · May 4, 2006, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RIV@NVX

So, you just need to make Samba working so you can transfer the files or is there anything else?

that is basically it. i have knoppix, not samba although i am open to any other versions of linux such as samba

RIV@NVX · May 5, 2006, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

that is basically it. i have knoppix, not samba although i am open to any other versions of linux such as samba

No, Samba is not a distribution, but instead an implementation of compatibility layer with Microsoft's SMB networking protocol

Can you describe how do you want to back up recovered data?

CDsDontBurn · May 6, 2006, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by RIV@NVX

No, Samba is not a distribution, but instead an implementation of compatibility layer with Microsoft's SMB networking protocol

Can you describe how do you want to back up recovered data?

pretty

i just want to be able to connect the lappy to my network and be able to transfer everything by saying "copy" then "paste"

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that would be ideal

RIV@NVX · May 6, 2006, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

pretty

i just want to be able to connect the lappy to my network and be able to transfer everything by saying "copy" then "paste"

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that would be ideal

Well, that's no problem.

I just want to know what your backup destination is, HDD, USB flash drive, network?

CDsDontBurn · May 6, 2006, 09:41 PM

lol....all of the above!

. i'll have to use my space on my rig, and anything that doesnt fit will go on my sister's rig.

CDsDontBurn · May 10, 2006, 12:02 AM

bump

UberLord · May 10, 2006, 04:13 PM

Why are you bumping? Are you wanting to know how to mount a windows share? If so, then it's like so

mount -t cifs -o username=foo,password=bar //computer/share /mount/it/here

You may have to replace cifs with smbfs depending on kernel version/options

CDsDontBurn · May 10, 2006, 08:00 PM

yes that is what i was bumping. i'm a total linux noob so i needed help

RIV@NVX · May 11, 2006, 09:13 AM

Did you succed with it?

CDsDontBurn · May 11, 2006, 09:50 AM

i haven't tried it yet. i've been busy taking care of school and other things

CDsDontBurn · May 16, 2006, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by UberLord

Why are you bumping? Are you wanting to know how to mount a windows share? If so, then it's like so

mount -t cifs -o username=foo,password=bar //computer/share /mount/it/here

You may have to replace cifs with smbfs depending on kernel version/options

tried both options, i get the message saying "only root can do that"

UberLord · May 16, 2006, 12:34 PM

So login as root, or prefix the command with sudo :P

RIV@NVX · May 16, 2006, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

tried both options, i get the message saying "only root can do that"

You can probably use your file browser (Nautilus or Konqueror) and type smb:// or smb:/ (respectively), and you will get the same thing.

UberLord · May 16, 2006, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RIV@NVX

You can probably use your file browser (Nautilus or Konqueror) and type smb:// or smb:/ (respectively), and you will get the same thing.

My way only requires cifs/smbfs support in the kernel - yours requires that samba is installed and that nautilus or konq is compiled for it. Which is probably is in most binary distros

CDsDontBurn · May 16, 2006, 08:01 PM

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never used linux before so i'm kinda just winging it here

. i just want to be able to transfer some files over from the HDD before i gotta reinstall windows back onto it. is it really going to be that hard using linux live?

UberLord · May 17, 2006, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by CDsDontBurn

is it really going to be that hard using linux live?

Yes and know - depends on which distro you use and what you know / how technical you are.

I'm a very technical person, I write software that is used by everyone who uses Gentoo (baselayout ties all the unix programs together that boots your box and manages services like apache, ssh, etc) so I mainly use the command line todo stuff.

Other prefer a GUI approach.

At least with linux you have a choice about how easy or hard it is todo things

CDsDontBurn · May 18, 2006, 04:57 AM

ok....how about using a GUI format? that's more my style

UberLord · May 18, 2006, 09:37 AM

As Riva said .....

On Konqueror I can type this in the URL bar

smb://ds01

And it will show the windows shares on the computer ds01 that I can drill downto like in Windows Explorer

Apr 30, 2006, 11:44 PM	#1
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	which linux for data recovery? i'm currently d/ling knoppix live and ubuntu live to hopefully be able to retrieve some data off of a friend's laptop i'm fixing. now my question is, will i be able to network the laptop to my network here at home in able to retrieve the data? for the details (i don't want to start 2 threads of the same thing), whenever i try to boot up the laptop, i get an "unmountable_bood_volume" blue screen, so i thought, taking the drive out and putting it inside an external enclosure would allow me to extract the data, but it didn't. it appears that the partition on the laptop has been deleted so on my machine windows, recognizes the laptop drive as a "RAW" partition and "0 bytes" on the drive. but i'm pretty sure that since the machine still tries to boot into windows, that the data on the drive is still there. i've seen this done before, but the data was put on a flash drive, not transfered over a network. __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

May 1, 2006, 04:21 AM	#4
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	i forgot about this earlier... you might also want to create a all sectors 1:1 image of the problem drive/partition and try recovering the needed files using the disk/partition imaging program's image or partition explorer. this is all depends... you might be able to get all the files back easier than you think, and you can do it in any working Windows system. you need a lot of free hard drive space on a network machine or some of the empty CDs/DVDs, and a disk/partition imaging program that also has an ability to view and export the files from the image file(s). Last edited by PangingJr; May 1, 2006 at 04:28 AM.

May 3, 2006, 02:03 AM	Thread Starter #5
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	that's one thing i don't have alot of is space. the amount of data to be recovered is about 40Gb, and on my machine, i have appx. 25Gb free total. i will have to use my sister's machine to finish the data transfer. __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

May 3, 2006, 09:33 PM	Thread Starter #7
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	yea...that's the thing, i don't have Paragon Drive Backup. if it happens to be freeware, where can i find it, or where can i purchase it. or is there another program like it that will do the same thing? I have partition magic 7.0, but i don't think it will do anything near compared to what Paragon Drive Backup program does according to what you have said. __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

May 4, 2006, 07:07 AM	Thread Starter #9
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	well, i know you've been helping me the best you can, and i appreciate it. the version of knoppix i have can view all the files that are on the hard drive, i just need to transfer them onto a working windows machine before i format the drive. the dysfunctional drive is NTFS free __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

May 3, 2006, 02:32 AM	#6
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	depending on the program you are using... if you happen to have Paragon Drive Backup, when the Drive Backup works in the sector-to-sector copying mode, it bypasses the analysis of used partitioning scheme, file system types and file system consistency of all partitions. it saves all sectors to the image. however, the use of the compression function will reduce the image size.

May 4, 2006, 02:38 AM	#8
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	i did mention that you need to use a disk/partition imaging program... partition magic 7.0 is not a disk/partition imaging program. it cannot make a disk/partition image, i'm sure if it can export the files after its copy disk operation either. i guess i'm out of an idea to help you.

May 6, 2006, 09:41 PM	Thread Starter #15
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	lol....all of the above! . i'll have to use my space on my rig, and anything that doesnt fit will go on my sister's rig. __________________ Her First Day \| A year later Last edited by CDsDontBurn; May 10, 2006 at 12:01 AM.

May 10, 2006, 12:02 AM	Thread Starter #16
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	bump __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

May 10, 2006, 04:13 PM	#17
UberLord A Legend in Underwear Join Date: May 2002 Location: Unknown Posts: 5,255 Rep Power: 0	Why are you bumping? Are you wanting to know how to mount a windows share? If so, then it's like so mount -t cifs -o username=foo,password=bar //computer/share /mount/it/here You may have to replace cifs with smbfs depending on kernel version/options __________________ Gentoo Linux - Developer (baselayout) Read my blog "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen Roberts

May 10, 2006, 08:00 PM	Thread Starter #18
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	yes that is what i was bumping. i'm a total linux noob so i needed help __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

May 11, 2006, 09:13 AM	#19
RIV@NVX Freedom is a feature. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Croatia, Rijeka Posts: 4,476 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Did you succed with it? __________________ -- Vedran

May 11, 2006, 09:50 AM	Thread Starter #20
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	i haven't tried it yet. i've been busy taking care of school and other things __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

May 16, 2006, 12:34 PM	#22
UberLord A Legend in Underwear Join Date: May 2002 Location: Unknown Posts: 5,255 Rep Power: 0	So login as root, or prefix the command with sudo :P __________________ Gentoo Linux - Developer (baselayout) Read my blog "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen Roberts

May 16, 2006, 08:01 PM	Thread Starter #25
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	<------- never used linux before so i'm kinda just winging it here . i just want to be able to transfer some files over from the HDD before i gotta reinstall windows back onto it. is it really going to be that hard using linux live? __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

May 18, 2006, 04:57 AM	Thread Starter #27
CDsDontBurn Lurking DriverHeaven Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,779 Rep Power: 235 System Specs	ok....how about using a GUI format? that's more my style __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

May 18, 2006, 09:37 AM	#28
UberLord A Legend in Underwear Join Date: May 2002 Location: Unknown Posts: 5,255 Rep Power: 0	As Riva said ..... On Konqueror I can type this in the URL bar smb://ds01 And it will show the windows shares on the computer ds01 that I can drill downto like in Windows Explorer __________________ Gentoo Linux - Developer (baselayout) Read my blog "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen Roberts