So I was going to install Linux but....

MikeDaMan · Mar 6, 2003, 03:15 AM

Well I was going to install Redhat 8.0 on my comp last night but ran into a problem. I used Partition Magic to partition my hard drive for linux exactly how their website told me to. BTW I'm trying to make a dual boot with XP and Linux. I make all the partitioning changes and hit apply...restart the computer and partition magic comes on during the boot (like it should). However it doesn't go to work, I get an error telling me to make sure that my System32 Directory isn't corrupt or compacted. I've done a CHKDSK and Disk Defrag but keep getting the same error...any ideas? Thanks.

UberLord · Mar 6, 2003, 10:34 AM

Lemmie guess - you used the Boot Manager that comes with PQ Magic right?
That sucks

RH8 ships with GRUB which is a much better and easier to use boot manager imo.
I use PQ Magic 7 and there may be a newer one out - i cant speak for that.

However, I reckon that your XP partition is hosed

Nothing I can help with - sorry

raid517 · Mar 7, 2003, 01:38 AM

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Originally posted by MikeDaMan
Well I was going to install Redhat 8.0 on my comp last night but ran into a problem. I used Partition Magic to partition my hard drive for linux exactly how their website told me to. BTW I'm trying to make a dual boot with XP and Linux. I make all the partitioning changes and hit apply...restart the computer and partition magic comes on during the boot (like it should). However it doesn't go to work, I get an error telling me to make sure that my System32 Directory isn't corrupt or compacted. I've done a CHKDSK and Disk Defrag but keep getting the same error...any ideas? Thanks.

Go to your C: drive, navigate to your Windows folder, right click, select properties/advanced and look and see if you have encryption or compression enabled. If so disable it and select "apply to all sub folders and directories". Whether this works or not, this is what PM is telling you to do. Alternatively try Paragon Partition manager, I have had a lot of trouble in the past with Partition Magic, though others report no difficulty at all. RedHat also has its own partitioning software installed - but I confess I don't know much about that yet. Maybe UberLord can assist further?

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UberLord · Mar 7, 2003, 01:44 AM

If windows isn't booting, how is he going to get to the C: drive?

***craig5320*** · Mar 7, 2003, 01:46 AM

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Originally posted by UberLord
If windows isn't booting, how is he going to get to the C: drive?

mebbe your reading between the lines too much, maybe it jus' won't partition, maybe I should stop drinking lager and go to bed.

ToshiroOC · Mar 7, 2003, 01:50 AM

Boot disk of any flavor

UberLord · Mar 7, 2003, 01:54 AM

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Originally posted by ToshiroOC
Boot disk of any flavor

If it's compressed then it's NTFS.
Although you can get Linux boot floppies that read NTFS partitions, writing to them is very dodgy as it doesn't work to well.

There's also an NTFS read program for DOS.

Either way, he needs to "uncompress" the system32 folder if that really is the problem - which I doubt. And how you do that at a command prompt I've got no idea!

I think he's got 2 options.

1. Boot off the CD and try the recovery options
2. Reformant and re-install

Unless anyone else has some ideas..

ToshiroOC · Mar 7, 2003, 01:58 AM

Maybe booting into the Partition Magic whateveryoucallit, making a new OS partition, making it active, installing windows into there, decompressing the original windows system32 folder, making the old partition active, deleting the new partition and the temporary windows install, then hoping everything works and back to normal?

raid517 · Mar 7, 2003, 02:02 AM

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Originally posted by UberLord
If windows isn't booting, how is he going to get to the C: drive?

Lol. No Usually when PM can't do a job it just gives up and boots back into Windows. Not always though... Sometimes it can screw up big time... Ultimately though if you can get Linux installed it is extremely worthwhile. You have so much control over your system that you can wonder why Windows even exists. (Except for games - but then I have a bunch of games that play well natively in Linux too).

Don't give up! It is all worthwhile. It took me 2 months to learn Linux. But you have to be very determined. Mind you it took me over a year to learn XP, but it has so many quirks, it always throws something new at you.

I think your best option is to use the native RH partitioning software, though as I am still a bit of a Linux n00b, you may need someone else to help you there.

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UberLord · Mar 7, 2003, 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by raid517
Lol. No Usually when PM can't do a job it just gives up and boots back into Windows. Not always though... Sometimes it can screw up big time...

Raid, FSCKing read his post. He said he can't boot into Windows!! How many times do you have to be told!

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I think your best option is to use the native RH partitioning software, though as I am still a bit of a Linux n00b, you may need someone else to help you there.

At least we sort of agree on something.

My strategy when dealing when a PC with Windows on is to use PM to resize windows down and create another primary partition for Linux. Then, let Linux create smaller virtual partitions inside the big primary partition you made for it.

raid517 · Mar 7, 2003, 09:23 PM

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Well I was going to install Redhat 8.0 on my comp last night but ran into a problem. I used Partition Magic to partition my hard drive for linux exactly how their website told me to. BTW I'm trying to make a dual boot with XP and Linux. I make all the partitioning changes and hit apply...restart the computer and partition magic comes on during the boot (like it should). However it doesn't go to work, I get an error telling me to make sure that my System32 Directory isn't corrupt or compacted. I've done a CHKDSK and Disk Defrag but keep getting the same error...any ideas? Thanks.

Well excuse me I'm sure... But where here does it specifically say he cant boot into Windows? With PM I have encountered both scenarios. Firstly something inexplicable happens after a reboot, the PM screen comes up, runs through a few basic checks and then gives up and then reboots into windows. The second scenario - and much more painful, is PM does its stuff, reboots, seems to run through some of its processes, encounters an error, gives up, and then totally hoses your windows install. It works more often than not though.

I may not be an expert when it comes to Linux (although I know enough) but PM and XP I know like the back of my hand. All I was doing is sharing my experiences since he didn't indicate which of these scenarios, if any applied. Don't you think this is the wrong place to be shouting people down? I was simply trying to be helpful.

The message PM gave made no sense, but at least a part of the message it gave could be understood. Since I could not tell if Windows was no longer booting for him, I couldn't tell if corruption was an issue. If it is though, I'm sure we can look at that too.

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Forge · Mar 7, 2003, 10:15 PM

Uberlord - You're jumping all over raid, but YOU made the mistake!

Reread the original post very carefully. He never said he was using Bootmagic, he said he rebooted for PartitionMagic to make changes, and when it came up (it being PM, not BM), it told him it couldn't work because system32 was compacted or corrupt. He THEN says he chkdsk'ed and defragged and tried again.

You have some boot floppy defragger that works on NTFS?

Anyways, why don't we all take a step back, breathe deep for a few, and come back at the problem instead of each other.

MikeDaMan - Can you try PartitionMagic again, and note the error number? PM usually says things like ' Error code 572 - YOur Winblows is teh suck'. The error message itself isn't always clear, but you can look up error code numbers on PM's site and get more info and solutions.

UberLord · Mar 7, 2003, 11:22 PM

Well, hopefully Mike can clarify the situation

MikeDaMan · Mar 9, 2003, 06:38 AM

Oh man, I didnt know this thread would blow up. I apologize if I wasn't clear enough so we shouldnt start smashing anyone. To clarify, I can boot into windows just couldnt partition without the error. I will look over these posts and let you guys know whats up. Thanks for all the replys

MikeDaMan · Mar 9, 2003, 08:19 PM

So I decided to install Linux on a second 4.7GB hard drive. As it turns out I have a bad disk. The ISO check says that the ISO is bad, and when i try to go ahead and install it freezes, So I just need to redownload the image and burn it to a cd right?

raid517 · Mar 9, 2003, 09:15 PM

Well yes, you could/perhaps should redown the ISO - but... consider first if your CD burner might be at fault. Try using different burning software and burning at a lower speed than before. It might save you the time of getting the CD again.

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Mar 6, 2003, 03:15 AM	#1
MikeDaMan DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 874 Rep Power: 0	So I was going to install Linux but.... Well I was going to install Redhat 8.0 on my comp last night but ran into a problem. I used Partition Magic to partition my hard drive for linux exactly how their website told me to. BTW I'm trying to make a dual boot with XP and Linux. I make all the partitioning changes and hit apply...restart the computer and partition magic comes on during the boot (like it should). However it doesn't go to work, I get an error telling me to make sure that my System32 Directory isn't corrupt or compacted. I've done a CHKDSK and Disk Defrag but keep getting the same error...any ideas? Thanks. __________________ DFI Lanpart UT 250GB motherboard. 1GB 2X512 Crucial Ballistix PC 3200. AMD Athlon 64 3400+. Retail ATI Radeon X850XT PE AGP

Mar 6, 2003, 10:34 AM	#2
UberLord A Legend in Underwear Join Date: May 2002 Location: Unknown Posts: 5,255 Rep Power: 0	Lemmie guess - you used the Boot Manager that comes with PQ Magic right? That sucks RH8 ships with GRUB which is a much better and easier to use boot manager imo. I use PQ Magic 7 and there may be a newer one out - i cant speak for that. However, I reckon that your XP partition is hosed Nothing I can help with - sorry __________________ Gentoo Linux - Developer (baselayout) Read my blog "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen Roberts

Mar 7, 2003, 01:44 AM	#4
UberLord A Legend in Underwear Join Date: May 2002 Location: Unknown Posts: 5,255 Rep Power: 0	If windows isn't booting, how is he going to get to the C: drive? __________________ Gentoo Linux - Developer (baselayout) Read my blog "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen Roberts

Mar 7, 2003, 01:50 AM	#6
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	Boot disk of any flavor __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Mar 7, 2003, 01:58 AM	#8
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	Maybe booting into the Partition Magic whateveryoucallit, making a new OS partition, making it active, installing windows into there, decompressing the original windows system32 folder, making the old partition active, deleting the new partition and the temporary windows install, then hoping everything works and back to normal? __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Mar 7, 2003, 10:15 PM	#12
Forge DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2002 Location: King of Prussia, PA, USA Posts: 107 Rep Power: 0	Uberlord - You're jumping all over raid, but YOU made the mistake! Reread the original post very carefully. He never said he was using Bootmagic, he said he rebooted for PartitionMagic to make changes, and when it came up (it being PM, not BM), it told him it couldn't work because system32 was compacted or corrupt. He THEN says he chkdsk'ed and defragged and tried again. You have some boot floppy defragger that works on NTFS? Anyways, why don't we all take a step back, breathe deep for a few, and come back at the problem instead of each other. MikeDaMan - Can you try PartitionMagic again, and note the error number? PM usually says things like ' Error code 572 - YOur Winblows is teh suck'. The error message itself isn't always clear, but you can look up error code numbers on PM's site and get more info and solutions. __________________ [COLOR=lightgreen] Vargr64[/COLOR]: Core 2 Q9450@3.2 [COLOR=red]\|[/COLOR] OCZ Dominator [COLOR=red]\|[/COLOR] 4GB G.Skill 800MHz [COLOR=red]\|[/COLOR] eVGA GeForce 9800GT [COLOR=red]\|[/COLOR] Raptor150+Seag750+Seag640+Seag320+Seag320 [COLOR=red]\|[/COLOR] Liteon LH-20A1H [COLOR=red]\|[/COLOR] Liteon LH-20A1S [COLOR=Red]\|[/COLOR] TT Armor+ [COLOR=red]\|[/COLOR] Corsair TX750W [COLOR=red]\|[/COLOR] Gigabyte EP35-DS4 [COLOR=red]\|[/COLOR] Logitech Z-680 [COLOR=Red]\|[/COLOR] Vista64 Ultimate SP1 [COLOR=Red]\|[/COLOR] Ubuntu 8.10 x64

Mar 7, 2003, 11:22 PM	#13
UberLord A Legend in Underwear Join Date: May 2002 Location: Unknown Posts: 5,255 Rep Power: 0	Well, hopefully Mike can clarify the situation __________________ Gentoo Linux - Developer (baselayout) Read my blog "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen Roberts

Mar 9, 2003, 06:38 AM	Thread Starter #14
MikeDaMan DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 874 Rep Power: 0	Oh man, I didnt know this thread would blow up. I apologize if I wasn't clear enough so we shouldnt start smashing anyone. To clarify, I can boot into windows just couldnt partition without the error. I will look over these posts and let you guys know whats up. Thanks for all the replys __________________ DFI Lanpart UT 250GB motherboard. 1GB 2X512 Crucial Ballistix PC 3200. AMD Athlon 64 3400+. Retail ATI Radeon X850XT PE AGP

Mar 9, 2003, 08:19 PM	Thread Starter #15
MikeDaMan DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 874 Rep Power: 0	So I decided to install Linux on a second 4.7GB hard drive. As it turns out I have a bad disk. The ISO check says that the ISO is bad, and when i try to go ahead and install it freezes, So I just need to redownload the image and burn it to a cd right? __________________ DFI Lanpart UT 250GB motherboard. 1GB 2X512 Crucial Ballistix PC 3200. AMD Athlon 64 3400+. Retail ATI Radeon X850XT PE AGP

Mar 9, 2003, 09:15 PM	#16
raid517 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,518 Rep Power: 0	Well yes, you could/perhaps should redown the ISO - but... consider first if your CD burner might be at fault. Try using different burning software and burning at a lower speed than before. It might save you the time of getting the CD again. Q