Gentoo - yoiks!

UberLord · Sep 15, 2003, 02:58 PM

Well, I tried getting Gentoo on my laptop and it's a right old struggle.

I opted for the stage 3 tarball without GRP and it's having a major problem setting up linux-wlan-ng for my wifi card. Basically I just cannot get it to work for love nor money - it seems to be avoiding linux-wlan-ng and using something else as the card reports as eth1 instead of wlan0.

Any ideas?

UberLord · Sep 17, 2003, 12:44 AM

Well, I have this sorted out now

Just have a minor gripe with portage and that's the fact that package.unmask doesn't seem to have any effect. Ah well - unstable here I come!

UberLord · Sep 19, 2003, 10:55 AM

Decided to rebuild now with NPTL support to save loads and loads of recompiles.

Hope this works....

ToshiroOC · Sep 19, 2003, 11:39 AM

What wifi card are you using?

UberLord · Sep 19, 2003, 12:16 PM

SMC 2632W PCMCIA
I got it working in the end though

Interesting thing is with the mm-sources (2.6.0-test 5 with andrew mortons patchset) pcmcia devices are supposed to be broken - although a few gentoo users can get it to work.

I'll hopefully find out later on today as my emerge system is almost complete!

UberLord · Sep 23, 2003, 03:01 PM

Well, PCMCIA is working - but I had to build it using the old modutils instead of module-init-tools.

But it's not optimal - cardmgr cannot detect a card being removed and inserted which is a bummer

However, the 2.6.0-test5-mm3 kernel really r0x0r my b0x0r

It's very fast and slick. Compiling a mail client (evolution) and my GUI response is amazing - it's just like normal! Mucho better than under WindowsXP

RIV@NVX · Sep 23, 2003, 08:50 PM

Heh, you will make me switch to linux...

UberLord · Sep 24, 2003, 03:02 PM

Yesssssssss - feel the linux

JustaGuy · Sep 29, 2003, 03:15 PM

Gentoo is the shaite

I've got a 2.6 kernel now, with a NPTL-enabled glibc and everything is running very well (and fast). You gotta love it...

UberLord · Sep 29, 2003, 05:03 PM

I've yet to see any usefullnes behind NPTL aside from cutting down on the number of lines a "ps ax" gives

JustaGuy · Sep 29, 2003, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by UberLord
I've yet to see any usefullnes behind NPTL aside from cutting down on the number of lines a "ps ax" gives

Try installing a NPTL-enabled java VM...

UberLord · Sep 30, 2003, 12:53 PM

Ive got Sun's 1.4.2_01 which is supposed to be NPTL enabled but I can't see any improvement.

Anything else?

JustaGuy · Sep 30, 2003, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by UberLord
Ive got Sun's 1.4.2_01 which is supposed to be NPTL enabled but I can't see any improvement.

Anything else?

Well, anything heavily threaded really... I'll let you know if I find something

But basically the best of NPTL is for programmers, since it is more POSIX-compliant than the old Linux Threads.

Malus · Oct 6, 2003, 06:18 AM

I'm in the process of installing Gentoo right now, since my network card just isnt supported under FreeBSD.

It's very *BSD like though, and the compiling factor is kind of nifty, albiet a little time consuming.

UberLord · Oct 6, 2003, 10:25 AM

However, once you get X and a DE up and running, you can compile in the background whilst using other things!

This is very painless if running the 2.6 series kernels. Which I love except that it cannot detect when I insert a PCMCIA card. Removing it is fine, just not inserting the damn thing. Oh well.

Malus · Oct 7, 2003, 04:18 AM

2.6 series kernel doesn't have network card support for me. Have to find the damn patch for nforce boards.

Sep 15, 2003, 02:58 PM	#1
UberLord A Legend in Underwear Join Date: May 2002 Location: Unknown Posts: 5,255 Rep Power: 0	Gentoo - yoiks! Well, I tried getting Gentoo on my laptop and it's a right old struggle. I opted for the stage 3 tarball without GRP and it's having a major problem setting up linux-wlan-ng for my wifi card. Basically I just cannot get it to work for love nor money - it seems to be avoiding linux-wlan-ng and using something else as the card reports as eth1 instead of wlan0. Any ideas? __________________ Gentoo Linux - Developer (baselayout) Read my blog "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen Roberts

Sep 17, 2003, 12:44 AM	Thread Starter #2
UberLord A Legend in Underwear Join Date: May 2002 Location: Unknown Posts: 5,255 Rep Power: 0	Well, I have this sorted out now Just have a minor gripe with portage and that's the fact that package.unmask doesn't seem to have any effect. Ah well - unstable here I come! __________________ Gentoo Linux - Developer (baselayout) Read my blog "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen Roberts

Sep 19, 2003, 10:55 AM	Thread Starter #3
UberLord A Legend in Underwear Join Date: May 2002 Location: Unknown Posts: 5,255 Rep Power: 0	Decided to rebuild now with NPTL support to save loads and loads of recompiles. Hope this works.... __________________ Gentoo Linux - Developer (baselayout) Read my blog "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen Roberts

Sep 19, 2003, 11:39 AM	#4
ToshiroOC Unbiased. Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,812 Rep Power: 0	What wifi card are you using? __________________ [img][/img] [color=White]Peace be with you, Joe.[/color] Driverheaven Staff Member (Supermoderator)

Sep 19, 2003, 12:16 PM	Thread Starter #5
UberLord A Legend in Underwear Join Date: May 2002 Location: Unknown Posts: 5,255 Rep Power: 0	SMC 2632W PCMCIA I got it working in the end though Interesting thing is with the mm-sources (2.6.0-test 5 with andrew mortons patchset) pcmcia devices are supposed to be broken - although a few gentoo users can get it to work. I'll hopefully find out later on today as my emerge system is almost complete! __________________ Gentoo Linux - Developer (baselayout) Read my blog "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen Roberts

Sep 23, 2003, 03:01 PM	Thread Starter #6
UberLord A Legend in Underwear Join Date: May 2002 Location: Unknown Posts: 5,255 Rep Power: 0	Well, PCMCIA is working - but I had to build it using the old modutils instead of module-init-tools. But it's not optimal - cardmgr cannot detect a card being removed and inserted which is a bummer However, the 2.6.0-test5-mm3 kernel really r0x0r my b0x0r It's very fast and slick. Compiling a mail client (evolution) and my GUI response is amazing - it's just like normal! Mucho better than under WindowsXP __________________ Gentoo Linux - Developer (baselayout) Read my blog "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen Roberts

Sep 23, 2003, 08:50 PM	#7
RIV@NVX Freedom is a feature. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Croatia, Rijeka Posts: 4,476 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Heh, you will make me switch to linux... __________________ -- Vedran

Sep 24, 2003, 03:02 PM	Thread Starter #8
UberLord A Legend in Underwear Join Date: May 2002 Location: Unknown Posts: 5,255 Rep Power: 0	Yesssssssss - feel the linux __________________ Gentoo Linux - Developer (baselayout) Read my blog "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen Roberts

Sep 29, 2003, 03:15 PM	#9
JustaGuy DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 44 Rep Power: 0	Gentoo is the shaite I've got a 2.6 kernel now, with a NPTL-enabled glibc and everything is running very well (and fast). You gotta love it...

Sep 29, 2003, 05:03 PM	Thread Starter #10
UberLord A Legend in Underwear Join Date: May 2002 Location: Unknown Posts: 5,255 Rep Power: 0	I've yet to see any usefullnes behind NPTL aside from cutting down on the number of lines a "ps ax" gives __________________ Gentoo Linux - Developer (baselayout) Read my blog "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen Roberts

Sep 30, 2003, 12:53 PM	Thread Starter #12
UberLord A Legend in Underwear Join Date: May 2002 Location: Unknown Posts: 5,255 Rep Power: 0	Ive got Sun's 1.4.2_01 which is supposed to be NPTL enabled but I can't see any improvement. Anything else? __________________ Gentoo Linux - Developer (baselayout) Read my blog "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen Roberts

Oct 6, 2003, 06:18 AM	#14
Malus BSD SMASH! Join Date: May 2002 Location: A rabbit hole. . . Posts: 1,170 Rep Power: 0	I'm in the process of installing Gentoo right now, since my network card just isnt supported under FreeBSD. It's very BSD like though, and the compiling factor is kind of nifty, albiet a little time consuming. __________________ quad (FreeBSD/amd64 8-CURRENT):* Intel Q6600 - Asus P5E-VM HDMI - 2x2 GB Kingston PC6400 DDR2 Ram - Seagate 320GB 7200RPM HD - 2xSeagate 1TB 7200RPM HD in RAID 1 via ZFS - Lite-On 20x DVD Multi Recorder - Coolermaster Centurion 5 router (FreeBSD/amd64 8-CURRENT): Intel E4500 - Intel D945GCNL - 2 GB PC6400 Mushkin Ram - Lite-On 48x24x48x16 - Seagate 320GB 7200RPM HD - Silverstone SST-SG02-F wanderer (FreeBSD/i386 7-CURRENT): Lenovo Thinkpad T61p mini (OS X 10.5): Intel Core 2 Duo @ 1.8Ghz, 4 GB Mushkin PC5400 Ram - Headroom MicroDAC Portable sound: Rockboxed iPod Video -> Westone UM2's Not-So-Portable Sound: Headroon MicroDAC -> Singlepower PPX3-SLAM -> Grado RS-1's or Beyerdynamic DT-880's Very-Not-Portable-Sound: Squeezebox v3 -> Denon AVR-1507 -> B&W 683's & Sunfire HRS-10

Oct 6, 2003, 10:25 AM	Thread Starter #15
UberLord A Legend in Underwear Join Date: May 2002 Location: Unknown Posts: 5,255 Rep Power: 0	However, once you get X and a DE up and running, you can compile in the background whilst using other things! This is very painless if running the 2.6 series kernels. Which I love except that it cannot detect when I insert a PCMCIA card. Removing it is fine, just not inserting the damn thing. Oh well. __________________ Gentoo Linux - Developer (baselayout) Read my blog "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen Roberts

Oct 7, 2003, 04:18 AM	#16
Malus BSD SMASH! Join Date: May 2002 Location: A rabbit hole. . . Posts: 1,170 Rep Power: 0	2.6 series kernel doesn't have network card support for me. Have to find the damn patch for nforce boards. __________________ quad (FreeBSD/amd64 8-CURRENT): Intel Q6600 - Asus P5E-VM HDMI - 2x2 GB Kingston PC6400 DDR2 Ram - Seagate 320GB 7200RPM HD - 2xSeagate 1TB 7200RPM HD in RAID 1 via ZFS - Lite-On 20x DVD Multi Recorder - Coolermaster Centurion 5 router (FreeBSD/amd64 8-CURRENT): Intel E4500 - Intel D945GCNL - 2 GB PC6400 Mushkin Ram - Lite-On 48x24x48x16 - Seagate 320GB 7200RPM HD - Silverstone SST-SG02-F wanderer (FreeBSD/i386 7-CURRENT): Lenovo Thinkpad T61p mini (OS X 10.5): Intel Core 2 Duo @ 1.8Ghz, 4 GB Mushkin PC5400 Ram - Headroom MicroDAC Portable sound: Rockboxed iPod Video -> Westone UM2's Not-So-Portable Sound: Headroon MicroDAC -> Singlepower PPX3-SLAM -> Grado RS-1's or Beyerdynamic DT-880's Very-Not-Portable-Sound: Squeezebox v3 -> Denon AVR-1507 -> B&W 683's & Sunfire HRS-10