Sometimes I hate Linux sooooooooo much....

md5 · Jan 21, 2005, 01:42 PM

Sometimes I just hate it

on a Fedora Core 1 system, I tried to upgrade it with yum. yum updated perl and broke it

installed perl via its source... and lo and behold, after 100 questions I had to answer to install it, I got some very insightful and bright ones such as the following:

Quote:

Checking to see how big your characters are (hey, you never know)...
What is the size of a character (in bytes)? [1]

UberLord · Jan 21, 2005, 02:35 PM

Sounds like you hate yum and perl - not Linux (ie the kernel)

I think my Gentoo servers (stable branch bar the odd app here and there) only broke once due to a monumental balls up on my part.

That's one of the main reasons I like Gentoo - upgrading is just soooo easy! It's a bit more painful if you use unstable branch, but that's why it's unstable I guess ....

md5 · Jan 21, 2005, 02:41 PM

well yeah

updating the kernel itself is a nightmare as well though... so there you go

I hate playing the 100-retarded-questions game...

UberLord · Jan 21, 2005, 03:06 PM

Code:

cd /usr/src
rm linux
ln -s <new kernel> linux
cd linux
cp ../<old kernel>/.config .
make oldconfig
make
mount /boot
make install && make modules_install
reboot

Simple! (When you know how

)

md5 · Jan 22, 2005, 12:17 AM

See? That's why I hate the damn thing sometimes

If I don't search on the net, I can't do some of the things I want. I know that I could find all that with a simple search or if I sat down and thought about it, but I don't always have the time and urge to do all these. And I'm talking about things I find really straightforward to do with Windows.

Anyway

UberLord · Jan 24, 2005, 11:51 AM

Well, to make life easier, Gentoo supplies the "genkernel" utility which makes a "best guess" kernel for your hardware - which means installing a new kernel is just a two line afair - emerge it and then genkernel it.

Kombatant · Jan 30, 2005, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by md5

Sometimes I just hate it

on a Fedora Core 1 system, I tried to upgrade it with yum. yum updated perl and broke it

noob

md5 · Jan 30, 2005, 08:19 PM

hey noobie

wassup?

jec0s · Feb 24, 2005, 07:48 AM

All good things in life take patient learning... Linux is one of those..

TJ- · Feb 24, 2005, 07:59 AM

hey i didnt think after reading the thread topic that it could possibly be the master of linux himself....

haha yes linux does suck...! i think ive given up on it once again

UberLord · Feb 24, 2005, 10:55 AM

Hey - you pretty much erased the linux "boot" partition and you wonder why your boot menu is missing?

Grub still works - you could have booted Windows from your screen shot still

Learn from your mistakes

TJ- · Feb 24, 2005, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UberLord

Hey - you pretty much erased the linux "boot" partition and you wonder why your boot menu is missing?

Grub still works - you could have booted Windows from your screen shot still

Learn from your mistakes

ive been playing around with linux fora while now, and it causes more stress that its worth, mabye cause i never learned the dos commands in windows so typing the command just doesnt tickle my fancy...

Will try again one day though, on a system that is totally dedicated to linux.

Shaga · Feb 24, 2005, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by battleaxe187

Will try again one day though, on a system that is totally dedicated to linux.

I think I'll do the same, laptop would be great for it.

I got two weeks ago 10x x86 & 10x x64 ubuntu distribution cd's in mail. All free of charge. I have used one during my work hours but it won't work on my home computer very easily. I cannot get sb live! 24bit to work, everything else works(of course nvidia drivers needs most work of my rig/PCI-Express and all).

I tried gentoo some months ago but installation failed before it started, it didn't support my sata controller/driver nor ethernet network controller which I made to work. I wasn't able to get any workarounds for sata support, and it was my only computer and empty hd

Asus A8N SLI Deluxe/nforce4 SLI - Nvidia 6600gt PCI/Express - sb live! 24bit - nforce sata controller+sata hd= nice combination

TJ- · Feb 24, 2005, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaga

I think I'll do the same, laptop would be great for it.

tried it, failed.... good luck trying to get drivers for laptops, its a near impossibe feat...

UberLord · Feb 24, 2005, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by battleaxe187

tried it, failed.... good luck trying to get drivers for laptops, its a near impossibe feat...

?? My laptop is fully supported using Gentoo - and I suspect most other distro's too!

The only thing that doesn't work is the volume control using the laptop function keys .... mines a Compaq Presario 2100

Grizzlie · Feb 24, 2005, 02:48 PM

For Soundblaster 24 bit support ya need to use cvs and remove existing alsa...

see this page for reference

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...hreadid=273389

jec0s · Mar 15, 2005, 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UberLord

?? My laptop is fully supported using Gentoo - and I suspect most other distro's too!

The only thing that doesn't work is the volume control using the laptop function keys .... mines a Compaq Presario 2100

I have a Presario 2108 and am about to put gentoo on it. Which kernel would be best for the acpi functions. And I heard Xorg 6.7 worked the best for 3d? or should the newest 6.8.2 work better? It has a Radeon IGP320m

Thanks.

Shaga · Mar 15, 2005, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grizzlie

For Soundblaster 24 bit support ya need to use cvs and remove existing alsa...

see this page for reference

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...hreadid=273389

Thank you! I don't feel like installing linux anytime soon(had some serious problems at work) but goot to know how I should install my sb! 24 for next the time.

Tril · Apr 10, 2005, 04:51 AM

Quote:

on a Fedora Core 1 system, I tried to upgrade it with yum. yum updated perl and broke it

I did almost the same thing. I used urpmi on mandrake linux and asked it to automatically update my programs(there were cooker sources in my ftp list) and it installed a new version of perl incompatible with many software including urpmi. I had to upgrade to an older version of perl but I made another mistake afterward. Your are not the only one making mistakes. I consider myself a noob in linux. I have only used it for a few months.

You learn from yor mistakes. After trying to correct my mistake I totally broke my installation of linux. I don't really remember the details because it was some weeks ago. I think I accidentally installed a wrong version of glibc and I reinstalled the new version of perl. It broke urpmi because of perl and it broke rpm because of glibc. I needed rpm to reinstall an older version of perl but it was not working. I could not reinstall glibc because rpm and urpmi were not working. I was screwed.

At the next reboot, linux would not reboot in normal mode with the graphic interface. I was able to boot in a safe mode with no graphic mode and copy what was on my linux partition to a fat32 partition. I'll format my linux partition and reinstall eventually. It was a learning experience.

Malus · May 9, 2005, 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UberLord

Code:

cd /usr/src
rm linux
ln -s <new kernel> linux
cd linux
cp ../<old kernel>/.config .
make oldconfig
make
mount /boot
make install && make modules_install
reboot

Simple! (When you know how

)

FreeBSD style:

Code:

cd /usr/src;
make update;
mergemaster -p;
make buildworld;
make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL;
make installkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL;
reboot;
cd /usr/src;
make installworld;
mergemaster;

UberLord · May 9, 2005, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jec0s

I have a Presario 2108 and am about to put gentoo on it. Which kernel would be best for the acpi functions. And I heard Xorg 6.7 worked the best for 3d? or should the newest 6.8.2 work better? It has a Radeon IGP320m

Thanks.

Sorry for the late response.
I use a gentoo-sources-2.6.11-r7 kernel with ACPI enabled and APM disabled. All the shiney whizzy new kernel bits work just fine. xorg-x11-6.8.2 is fine too

For Radeon IGP 3D support, you'll need to install a DRI snapshot
http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Download

If you don't install it then you'll have software 3D which is sloooooowwwww

Jan 21, 2005, 02:35 PM	#2
UberLord A Legend in Underwear Join Date: May 2002 Location: Unknown Posts: 5,255 Rep Power: 70	Sounds like you hate yum and perl - not Linux (ie the kernel) I think my Gentoo servers (stable branch bar the odd app here and there) only broke once due to a monumental balls up on my part. That's one of the main reasons I like Gentoo - upgrading is just soooo easy! It's a bit more painful if you use unstable branch, but that's why it's unstable I guess .... __________________ Gentoo Linux - Developer (baselayout) Read my blog "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen Roberts

Jan 21, 2005, 03:06 PM	#4
UberLord A Legend in Underwear Join Date: May 2002 Location: Unknown Posts: 5,255 Rep Power: 70	Code: cd /usr/src rm linux ln -s <new kernel> linux cd linux cp ../<old kernel>/.config . make oldconfig make mount /boot make install && make modules_install reboot Simple! (When you know how ) __________________ Gentoo Linux - Developer (baselayout) Read my blog "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen Roberts

Jan 24, 2005, 11:51 AM	#6
UberLord A Legend in Underwear Join Date: May 2002 Location: Unknown Posts: 5,255 Rep Power: 70	Well, to make life easier, Gentoo supplies the "genkernel" utility which makes a "best guess" kernel for your hardware - which means installing a new kernel is just a two line afair - emerge it and then genkernel it. __________________ Gentoo Linux - Developer (baselayout) Read my blog "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen Roberts

Jan 30, 2005, 08:19 PM	Thread Starter #8
md5 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Inside DriverHeaven Posts: 856 Rep Power: 46	hey noobie wassup? __________________

Feb 24, 2005, 07:59 AM	#10
TJ- DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Infinity Posts: 3,679 Rep Power: 0	hey i didnt think after reading the thread topic that it could possibly be the master of linux himself.... haha yes linux does suck...! i think ive given up on it once again __________________ new sig comming soon

Jan 21, 2005, 02:41 PM	Thread Starter #3
md5 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Inside DriverHeaven Posts: 856 Rep Power: 46	well yeah updating the kernel itself is a nightmare as well though... so there you go I hate playing the 100-retarded-questions game...

Jan 22, 2005, 12:17 AM	Thread Starter #5
md5 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Inside DriverHeaven Posts: 856 Rep Power: 46	See? That's why I hate the damn thing sometimes If I don't search on the net, I can't do some of the things I want. I know that I could find all that with a simple search or if I sat down and thought about it, but I don't always have the time and urge to do all these. And I'm talking about things I find really straightforward to do with Windows. Anyway

Feb 24, 2005, 07:48 AM	#9
jec0s DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 45 Rep Power: 0	All good things in life take patient learning... Linux is one of those..

Feb 24, 2005, 10:55 AM	#11
UberLord A Legend in Underwear Join Date: May 2002 Location: Unknown Posts: 5,255 Rep Power: 70	Hey - you pretty much erased the linux "boot" partition and you wonder why your boot menu is missing? Grub still works - you could have booted Windows from your screen shot still Learn from your mistakes __________________ Gentoo Linux - Developer (baselayout) Read my blog "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen Roberts

Feb 24, 2005, 02:48 PM	#16
Grizzlie DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	For Soundblaster 24 bit support ya need to use cvs and remove existing alsa... see this page for reference http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...hreadid=273389