Best Live CD

Necrosis · Jan 25, 2005, 05:43 AM

I'm just curious which is really the best, and has the most features? Last time I had Linux installed on my laptop my wireless card never worked.

md5 · Jan 25, 2005, 11:07 AM

Depends on what you mean by "best". Each LiveCD has different features. A really popular LiveCD distro is Knoppix
http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html
http://www.knoppix.net/

but there are many others

Necrosis · Jan 25, 2005, 11:02 PM

Well I'm thinking of doing this on my laptop like i said so namely something all around stuff. I know not very technical, but if I like what I see and my wireless works. I'll just wipe the windows install off it.

Necrosis · Jan 26, 2005, 05:24 AM

I can't believe I actually finally figured it out!!! Ha, ha yes I'm finally on-line /w Knoppix and my laptop /w wireless. Now I just need to figure out how to install it on my HD!! I love it so far, not much different than windows really. Of course most of the root commands leave me puzzled.

md5 · Jan 26, 2005, 09:39 AM

Glad you liked it

RIV@NVX · Jan 26, 2005, 09:37 PM

Necrosis, if you are willing to experiment some more, I also suggest MandrakeMove and Gnoppix; I haven't tried them myslef, but I heard good things about both.

There are also SuSE LiveCD distro and Damn Small Linux, but I haven't heard anything about those. I think even Gentoo (cough, UberLord's favourite distro) has LiveCD version... so, lots of choices here.

Necrosis · Jan 27, 2005, 02:46 AM

I have good news and bad news. First the bad news. Knoppix...tonight I cannot get my wireless card working again. However, I also have Mepis which works but still doesn't auto configure the card. I had to do it manually but it works how it should /w the correct commands no weird routing commands or anything. I'm just trying to find something to start me off with. However, I know one this Kopete sucks!!

UberLord · Jan 27, 2005, 11:27 AM

I don't recommend the Gentoo LiveCD for anything except system repair or installation.
I'm not entirely certain that the current LiveCD's even have wireless networking on them - although it should be on the 2005.0 release (albiet manual setup)

Necrosis · Jan 27, 2005, 11:30 PM

Mepis has KWiFiManger /w it but it doesn't really work well. I do it all by command line. Weird thing is it also doesn't intialize my built in ethernet either. When I install Mepis how do I go about making it setup my wireless card during boot up?

Necrosis · Jan 28, 2005, 05:56 AM

Another question. If your in the command console how do you switch to a different partition. I'm trying to install flash for Firefox.

Also what is a good anti-virus for linux, what about spyware?

RIV@NVX · Jan 28, 2005, 11:04 AM

There is AVG for Linux, but unfortunately not free :-(
I heard about ClamAV, but I'm not sure how good is it, but it's free and you can check it out on http://www.clamav.net/

Even if you don't find a good anti-virus, viruses generally aren't a problem on Linux platform, so you don't have to worry. :-p

EDIT: Read on /. about it, released yesterday. If you want to try some more, Ubuntu isn't a bad idea: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/h...rray-3.5-live/

Necrosis · Jan 29, 2005, 01:59 AM

I've figured out by adding the switch -m to ndiswrapper it will setup the inf driver to load at boot-up. Also read to just install flash to copy it from my Mozilla setup. However, I still would like to know how to change partitions in the command console. So far I'm running loving Linux, though it does sound weird not to worry about virus's.

md5 · Jan 29, 2005, 11:09 AM

Usually you don't have to worry about viruses in Linux, because you're logged in as a user, not as root, so even if you did get a virus from somewhere, it wouldn't do any major damage. Viruses wouldn't be so widespread in Windows if people used a user/power user account to perform tasks instead of an administrative one.

Partitions are mounted as directories in Linux
Have a look at the mount command and its manual page (type man mount)

You usually type something like
mount /dev/hda1
where hd: specifies that you're mounting a hard drive
a: first HD
1: first partition

but you'll have to edit your /etc/fstab file as well

Have a look here:
http://enterprise.linux.com/article..../09/14/1516241

Necrosis · Jan 29, 2005, 09:41 PM

Thanks for the info. I think the reason I'm not so take back by Linux is I'm an old dos user, plus remember tinkering /w the old IIc years.

ChoGGi · Feb 3, 2005, 04:27 AM

for those that dont read slashdot., a review of 18 livecds
http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=9569

Necrosis · Feb 5, 2005, 08:40 PM

All I can say is WOW. Last night I loaded ProMEPIS...formated...and installed it. I was having an issue after I upgraded my HD in my laptop. Needless to say it has Gnome & KDE. The best part....

I left my wireless card out of the laptop because I was having some drivers issues /w the new install of SimplyMepis. Loaded up Pro, and then decided to put the card back in while at the GUI to reboot to see what it would do. Low and behold....I put the card it......recognized and up about 2 seconds after inserting the card. No drivers, no configuring anything. I've never seen windows ever do that. Pro also comes with Firefox as it's default browser..so I didn't need to download anything. It's getting so bad now, well I'm only using my main PC to do four things.

1. Game

2. Microsoft Visio

3. Audio editing

4. DVD/Video

I'm still a noob so I'm still learning, but I'm just amazed it's all free!!

I thought you guys would find these shots interesting.

RIV@NVX · Feb 7, 2005, 01:58 PM

Cool! I always prefer KDE on laptops because of battery meter, and you apparently have a laptop.
Does this mean that fglrx driver is integrated in ProMEPIS?

UberLord · Feb 7, 2005, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RIV@NVX

Cool! I always prefer KDE on laptops because of battery meter, and you apparently have a laptop.

GNOME has a battery meter

XFCE has a battey meter also

RIV@NVX · Feb 8, 2005, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UberLord

GNOME has a battery meter

XFCE has a battey meter also

It does? Then it certainly doesn't come with FC3 by default...

Grizzlie · Feb 11, 2005, 02:59 PM

PCLinuxOS, Simply-Mepis, and Knoppix are the best imho

md5 · Feb 11, 2005, 03:33 PM

Quote:

I'm only using my main PC to do four things.

1. Game
2. Microsoft Visio
3. Audio editing
4. DVD/Video

While not as good as Visio, you might want to have a look at Dia:
http://www.gnome.org/projects/dia/

For audio editing, have a look at the very good Audacity:
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

They both have versions for Linux and Windows

For video editing, have a look at cinerella (never used it, but I've heard it's good):
http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3

For playing Windows games under Linux, have a look at Cedega (formerly winex):
http://www.transgaming.com/

You might also be interested in these pages:
Sound and midi software for Linux: http://linux-sound.org/
The table of equivalents / replacements / analogs of Windows software in Linux:
http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-l...en/table.shtml

Necrosis · Feb 13, 2005, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by md5

While not as good as Visio, you might want to have a look at Dia:
http://www.gnome.org/projects/dia/

For audio editing, have a look at the very good Audacity:
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

They both have versions for Linux and Windows

For video editing, have a look at cinerella (never used it, but I've heard it's good):
http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3

For playing Windows games under Linux, have a look at Cedega (formerly winex):
http://www.transgaming.com/

You might also be interested in these pages:
Sound and midi software for Linux: http://linux-sound.org/
The table of equivalents / replacements / analogs of Windows software in Linux:
http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-l...en/table.shtml

Thanks for the links. I just downloaded Opera awhile to go try out. It seems rather good so far under Linux. However, fonts look weird /w vBullentin.

Necrosis · Feb 13, 2005, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grizzlie

PCLinuxOS, Simply-Mepis, and Knoppix are the best imho

If you like SimplyMEPIS you'll love Pro, it's like Knoppix but works more hardware with less hassle.

Grizzlie · Feb 14, 2005, 11:43 PM

I saw by the screenies above that Pro looked good... and has it's own ati tab.

The only thing I didn't like about Simply was that I had to manually uninstall a bunch of nvidia specific modules before installing my fglrx radeon drivers.

This really is a minor sticking point though and only noobs will have real trouble with this kind of issue.

When I reformat my 2nd linux drive I may give Pro a shot. Thanks for the heads up.

Blackboost · Jun 5, 2005, 02:36 AM

Holy sh&t!!! I just tried Ubuntu 5.04 Live CD and fell in love with it!!!

I must say that was always skeptical of trying anything Linux, but after running this my way of thinking just changed completely. I'm going to get another HD just to run Linux since my curiosity just got a posite boost!!! Another Linux noob to the list!!

Zelig · Jun 5, 2005, 05:31 AM

Knoppix 3.9 is released.

RIV@NVX · Jun 5, 2005, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackboost

Holy sh&t!!! I just tried Ubuntu 5.04 Live CD and fell in love with it!!!

I must say that was always skeptical of trying anything Linux, but after running this my way of thinking just changed completely. I'm going to get another HD just to run Linux since my curiosity just got a posite boost!!! Another Linux noob to the list!!

Welcome!

Ubuntu LiveCD is really good IMHO, and I'm really glad you liked it.

Blackboost · Jun 5, 2005, 06:10 PM

My plan is to test a few versions before settling with one. I'm running Ubuntu right now and going around the big How To guides. Next task is to see how to install the ATI (from what I have read it seems kind of complicated, but its cool because I like a challenge) and the Soundblaster Audigy2ZS drivers. I don't have an idea on how to do the second one but I'll keep looking around. I would like to test the latest Knoppix build and the ProMEPIS one given tha Necrosis screenshots speak for themselves.

microhaxo · Jun 7, 2005, 02:14 AM

Hmm, my experience is knoppix and SLAX, those are good releases, if you want small DSL Damn small linux is good choice

Necrosis · Jun 7, 2005, 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackboost

My plan is to test a few versions before settling with one. I'm running Ubuntu right now and going around the big How To guides. Next task is to see how to install the ATI (from what I have read it seems kind of complicated, but its cool because I like a challenge) and the Soundblaster Audigy2ZS drivers. I don't have an idea on how to do the second one but I'll keep looking around. I would like to test the latest Knoppix build and the ProMEPIS one given tha Necrosis screenshots speak for themselves.

Promepis no longer is available it's been intergrated in Simply Mepis 3.3.1.

Jan 25, 2005, 05:43 AM	#1
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,609 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	Best Live CD I'm just curious which is really the best, and has the most features? Last time I had Linux installed on my laptop my wireless card never worked.

Jan 26, 2005, 09:39 AM	#5
md5 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Inside DriverHeaven Posts: 856 Rep Power: 34	Glad you liked it __________________

Jan 26, 2005, 09:37 PM	#6
RIV@NVX Freedom is a feature. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Croatia, Rijeka Posts: 4,476 Rep Power: 55 System Specs	Necrosis, if you are willing to experiment some more, I also suggest MandrakeMove and Gnoppix; I haven't tried them myslef, but I heard good things about both. There are also SuSE LiveCD distro and Damn Small Linux, but I haven't heard anything about those. I think even Gentoo (cough, UberLord's favourite distro) has LiveCD version... so, lots of choices here. __________________ -- Vedran

Jan 27, 2005, 11:27 AM	#8
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Jan 28, 2005, 11:04 AM	#11
RIV@NVX Freedom is a feature. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Croatia, Rijeka Posts: 4,476 Rep Power: 55 System Specs	There is AVG for Linux, but unfortunately not free :-( I heard about ClamAV, but I'm not sure how good is it, but it's free and you can check it out on http://www.clamav.net/ Even if you don't find a good anti-virus, viruses generally aren't a problem on Linux platform, so you don't have to worry. :-p EDIT: Read on /. about it, released yesterday. If you want to try some more, Ubuntu isn't a bad idea: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/h...rray-3.5-live/ __________________ -- Vedran Last edited by RIV@NVX; Jan 28, 2005 at 11:15 AM.

Jan 25, 2005, 11:07 AM	#2
md5 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Inside DriverHeaven Posts: 856 Rep Power: 34	Depends on what you mean by "best". Each LiveCD has different features. A really popular LiveCD distro is Knoppix http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html http://www.knoppix.net/ but there are many others

Jan 25, 2005, 11:02 PM	#3
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,609 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	Well I'm thinking of doing this on my laptop like i said so namely something all around stuff. I know not very technical, but if I like what I see and my wireless works. I'll just wipe the windows install off it.

Jan 26, 2005, 05:24 AM	#4
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,609 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	I can't believe I actually finally figured it out!!! Ha, ha yes I'm finally on-line /w Knoppix and my laptop /w wireless. Now I just need to figure out how to install it on my HD!! I love it so far, not much different than windows really. Of course most of the root commands leave me puzzled.

Jan 27, 2005, 02:46 AM	#7
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,609 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	I have good news and bad news. First the bad news. Knoppix...tonight I cannot get my wireless card working again. However, I also have Mepis which works but still doesn't auto configure the card. I had to do it manually but it works how it should /w the correct commands no weird routing commands or anything. I'm just trying to find something to start me off with. However, I know one this Kopete sucks!!

Jan 27, 2005, 11:30 PM	#9
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,609 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	Mepis has KWiFiManger /w it but it doesn't really work well. I do it all by command line. Weird thing is it also doesn't intialize my built in ethernet either. When I install Mepis how do I go about making it setup my wireless card during boot up?

Jan 28, 2005, 05:56 AM	#10
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,609 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	Another question. If your in the command console how do you switch to a different partition. I'm trying to install flash for Firefox. Also what is a good anti-virus for linux, what about spyware?

Jan 29, 2005, 01:59 AM	#12
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,609 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	I've figured out by adding the switch -m to ndiswrapper it will setup the inf driver to load at boot-up. Also read to just install flash to copy it from my Mozilla setup. However, I still would like to know how to change partitions in the command console. So far I'm running loving Linux, though it does sound weird not to worry about virus's.

Jan 29, 2005, 11:09 AM	#13
md5 DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Inside DriverHeaven Posts: 856 Rep Power: 34	Usually you don't have to worry about viruses in Linux, because you're logged in as a user, not as root, so even if you did get a virus from somewhere, it wouldn't do any major damage. Viruses wouldn't be so widespread in Windows if people used a user/power user account to perform tasks instead of an administrative one. Partitions are mounted as directories in Linux Have a look at the mount command and its manual page (type man mount) You usually type something like mount /dev/hda1 where hd: specifies that you're mounting a hard drive a: first HD 1: first partition but you'll have to edit your /etc/fstab file as well Have a look here: http://enterprise.linux.com/article..../09/14/1516241 __________________

Jan 29, 2005, 09:41 PM	#14
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,609 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	Thanks for the info. I think the reason I'm not so take back by Linux is I'm an old dos user, plus remember tinkering /w the old IIc years.

Feb 3, 2005, 04:27 AM	#15
ChoGGi DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,209 Rep Power: 0	for those that dont read slashdot., a review of 18 livecds http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=9569 __________________ specs Common Problems and Fixes for your Radeon

Feb 5, 2005, 08:40 PM	#16
Necrosis HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,609 Rep Power: 77 System Specs	All I can say is WOW. Last night I loaded ProMEPIS...formated...and installed it. I was having an issue after I upgraded my HD in my laptop. Needless to say it has Gnome & KDE. The best part.... I left my wireless card out of the laptop because I was having some drivers issues /w the new install of SimplyMepis. Loaded up Pro, and then decided to put the card back in while at the GUI to reboot to see what it would do. Low and behold....I put the card it......recognized and up about 2 seconds after inserting the card. No drivers, no configuring anything. I've never seen windows ever do that. Pro also comes with Firefox as it's default browser..so I didn't need to download anything. It's getting so bad now, well I'm only using my main PC to do four things. 1. Game 2. Microsoft Visio 3. Audio editing 4. DVD/Video I'm still a noob so I'm still learning, but I'm just amazed it's all free!! I thought you guys would find these shots interesting. Last edited by Necrosis; Feb 5, 2005 at 09:05 PM.

Feb 7, 2005, 01:58 PM	#17
RIV@NVX Freedom is a feature. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Croatia, Rijeka Posts: 4,476 Rep Power: 55 System Specs	Cool! I always prefer KDE on laptops because of battery meter, and you apparently have a laptop. Does this mean that fglrx driver is integrated in ProMEPIS? __________________ -- Vedran

Feb 11, 2005, 02:59 PM	#20
Grizzlie DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	PCLinuxOS, Simply-Mepis, and Knoppix are the best imho

Feb 14, 2005, 11:43 PM	#24
Grizzlie DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	I saw by the screenies above that Pro looked good... and has it's own ati tab. The only thing I didn't like about Simply was that I had to manually uninstall a bunch of nvidia specific modules before installing my fglrx radeon drivers. This really is a minor sticking point though and only noobs will have real trouble with this kind of issue. When I reformat my 2nd linux drive I may give Pro a shot. Thanks for the heads up.

Jun 5, 2005, 02:36 AM	#25
Blackboost -=[DHzer0point Author]=- Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 0 Rep Power: 0	Holy sh&t!!! I just tried Ubuntu 5.04 Live CD and fell in love with it!!! I must say that was always skeptical of trying anything Linux, but after running this my way of thinking just changed completely. I'm going to get another HD just to run Linux since my curiosity just got a posite boost!!! Another Linux noob to the list!!

Jun 5, 2005, 05:31 AM	#26
Zelig HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,182 Rep Power: 57 System Specs	Knoppix 3.9 is released. __________________ --

Jun 5, 2005, 06:10 PM	#28
Blackboost -=[DHzer0point Author]=- Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 0 Rep Power: 0	My plan is to test a few versions before settling with one. I'm running Ubuntu right now and going around the big How To guides. Next task is to see how to install the ATI (from what I have read it seems kind of complicated, but its cool because I like a challenge) and the Soundblaster Audigy2ZS drivers. I don't have an idea on how to do the second one but I'll keep looking around. I would like to test the latest Knoppix build and the ProMEPIS one given tha Necrosis screenshots speak for themselves.

Jun 7, 2005, 02:14 AM	#29
microhaxo DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 26 Rep Power: 0	Hmm, my experience is knoppix and SLAX, those are good releases, if you want small DSL Damn small linux is good choice