Ubantu newbie - more questions

ronnn · Apr 26, 2005, 03:32 AM

Ok, I have sound and will install ATi drivers when more comfortable. I need to install java to use cgoban (I use this program more than any other). I have the latest java on my desktop. Any step by step process I can follow to install this? Needs to assume I know nothing, except how to open the terminal.

Also would like to install an installing program. Any reccomendations?

Thanks in advance!

ronnn · Apr 26, 2005, 06:57 AM

I got java loaded using the Ubantu guide, actually worked. Am just trying to figure out flashplayer and shockwave.

ronnn · Apr 26, 2005, 08:58 AM

got flashplayer installed. Anyone ever installed cgoban? This is hard.

RIV@NVX · Apr 26, 2005, 09:21 AM

You can install most of them using Synaptic; just enable more repositories under Synaptic's settings to make them show up (I think you need "Universe" repository).

ronnn · Apr 26, 2005, 09:32 AM

Any trick to installing Synaptic?

RIV@NVX · Apr 26, 2005, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronnn

Any trick to installing Synaptic?

You should have it already, under "Administration" find "Synaptic" or "Package manager". I'm not at home ATM, so I don't remember exact name of the entry.

Kombatant · Apr 26, 2005, 03:32 PM

It's already installed, as Riv said... you should also take the plunge and install the ATI drivers from synaptic. After that, here's what I did to get them started:
a) Run sudo fglrxconfig. It will create XF86Config-4
b) sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, so that you can take the changes you need from XF86Config-4 and incorporate them to xorg.conf.
c) Restart X and you are set

Here's my xorg.conf for comparison purposes:

Code:

# /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual page.
# (Type "man /etc/X11/xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following commands:
#
#   cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom
#   sudo sh -c 'md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf >/var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum'
#   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

Section "Files"
	FontPath "unix/:7100"			# local font server
	# if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these
	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID"
	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
	FontPath	"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
		# paths to defoma fonts
	FontPath	"/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
	FontPath	"/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/CID"
EndSection

Section "Module"
	Load	"bitmap"
	Load	"dbe"
	Load	"ddc"
	Load	"dri"
	#Load	"extmod"
	Load	"freetype"
	Load	"glx"
	Load	"int10"
	Load	"record"
	Load	"type1"
	Load	"vbe"
	# This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables
	# initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module. It also enables XRandR support (by disabling the Load "extmod" line earlier) ;)
		SubSection  "extmod"
			 Option	"omit xfree86-dga" # don't initialise the DGA extension
	EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier	"Generic Keyboard"
	Driver		"keyboard"
	Option		"CoreKeyboard"
	Option		"XkbRules"	"xorg"
	Option		"XkbModel"	"pc104"
	Option		"XkbLayout"	"us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier	"Configured Mouse"
	Driver		"mouse"
	Option		"CorePointer"
	Option		"Device"		"/dev/input/mice"
	#Option		"Protocol"		"ImPS/2"
	#Option		"Emulate3Buttons"	"true"
	#Option		"ZAxisMapping"		"4 5"
	Option		"Protocol"		"ExplorerPS/2"
Option		 "Buttons"			 "7"
	Option		"ZAxisMapping"		"4 5"
EndSection

# === ATI device section ===

Section "Device"
Identifier						 "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon 9700 Pro (R300 ND)"
Driver							 "fglrx"
# ### generic DRI settings ###
# === disable PnP Monitor  ===
#Option							 "NoDDC"
# === disable/enable XAA/DRI ===
	Option "no_accel"				 "no"
	Option "no_dri"					 "no"
# === misc DRI settings ===
	Option "mtrr"					 "off" # disable DRI mtrr mapper, driver has its own code for mtrr
# ### FireGL DDX driver module specific settings ###
# === Screen Management ===
	Option "DesktopSetup"			 "0x00000000" 
	Option "MonitorLayout"			 "AUTO, AUTO"
	Option "IgnoreEDID"				 "off"
	Option "HSync2"					 "unspecified" 
	Option "VRefresh2"				 "unspecified" 
	Option "ScreenOverlap"			  "0" 
# === TV-out Management ===
	Option "NoTV"					 "yes"	 
	Option "TVStandard"				 "NTSC-M"	 
	Option "TVHSizeAdj"				 "0"	 
	Option "TVVSizeAdj"				 "0"	 
	Option "TVHPosAdj"				 "0"	 
	Option "TVVPosAdj"				 "0"	 
	Option "TVHStartAdj"			 "0"	 
	Option "TVColorAdj"				 "0"	 
	Option "GammaCorrectionI"		   "0x00000000"
	Option "GammaCorrectionII"		  "0x00000000"
# === OpenGL specific profiles/settings ===
	Option "Capabilities"			 "0x00000000"
# === Video Overlay for the Xv extension ===
	Option "VideoOverlay"			   "on"
# === OpenGL Overlay ===
# Note: When OpenGL Overlay is enabled, Video Overlay
#	   will be disabled automatically
	Option "OpenGLOverlay"			  "off"
# === Center Mode (Laptops only) ===
	Option "CenterMode"				 "off"
# === Pseudo Color Visuals (8-bit visuals) ===
	Option "PseudoColorVisuals"		 "off"
# === QBS Management ===
	Option "Stereo"					 "off"
	Option "StereoSyncEnable"		   "1"
# === FSAA Management ===
	Option "FSAAEnable"				 "no"
	Option "FSAAScale"				 "1"
	Option "FSAADisableGamma"		   "no"
	Option "FSAACustomizeMSPos"		 "no"
	Option "FSAAMSPosX0"			 "0.000000"
	Option "FSAAMSPosY0"			 "0.000000"
	Option "FSAAMSPosX1"			 "0.000000"
	Option "FSAAMSPosY1"			 "0.000000"
	Option "FSAAMSPosX2"			 "0.000000"
	Option "FSAAMSPosY2"			 "0.000000"
	Option "FSAAMSPosX3"			 "0.000000"
	Option "FSAAMSPosY3"			 "0.000000"
	Option "FSAAMSPosX4"			 "0.000000"
	Option "FSAAMSPosY4"			 "0.000000"
	Option "FSAAMSPosX5"			 "0.000000"
	Option "FSAAMSPosY5"			 "0.000000"
# === Misc Options ===
	Option "UseFastTLS"				 "2"
	Option "BlockSignalsOnLock"		 "on"
	Option "UseInternalAGPGART"		 "no"
	Option "ForceGenericCPU"			"no"
	BusID "PCI:2:0:0"	# vendor=1002, device=4e44
	Screen 0
EndSection

#Section "Device"
#	Identifier	"ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon 9700 Pro (R300 ND)"
#	Driver		"ati"
#	BusID		"PCI:2:0:0"
#EndSection

Section "Monitor"
	Identifier	"HM903D/DT"
	Option		"DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
	Identifier	"Default Screen"
	Device		"ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon 9700 Pro (R300 ND)"
	Monitor		"HM903D/DT"
	DefaultDepth	24
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		1
		Modes 	"1920x1440" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		4
		Modes 	"1920x1440" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		8
		Modes 	"1920x1440" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		15
		Modes 	"1920x1440" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		16
		Modes 	"1920x1440" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Depth		24
		Modes 	"1920x1440" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
	Identifier	"Default Layout"
	Screen		"Default Screen"
	InputDevice	"Generic Keyboard"
	InputDevice	"Configured Mouse"
EndSection

Section "DRI"
	Mode	0666
EndSection

RIV@NVX · Apr 26, 2005, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kombatant

It's already installed, as Riv said... you should also take the plunge and install the ATI drivers from synaptic. After that, here's what I did to get them started:
a) Run sudo fglrxconfig. It will create XF86Config-4

Of course, my personal preference is usage of alien-ized rpm of ATI's 8.12 drivers from, and not 8.8, which are lastest (afaik) available from Synaptic. Their installation is more complicated, but they fix things such as UT2004, so it's worth trying.

Kombatant · Apr 26, 2005, 04:30 PM

Latest depending on the repositories you have added

RIV@NVX · Apr 26, 2005, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kombatant

Latest depending on the repositories you have added

/me goes to upgrade outdated package list
Yeah, but then it generates xorg.conf, not XF86Config-4. It's still recommended not to overwrite default one, but to save it to a different location (fglrxconfig allows that) and then take parts you need from it.

ronnn · Apr 26, 2005, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kombatant

It's already installed, as Riv said... you should also take the plunge and install the ATI drivers from synaptic. After that, here's what I did to get them started:
a) Run sudo fglrxconfig. It will create XF86Config-4
b) sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, so that you can take the changes you need from XF86Config-4 and incorporate them to xorg.conf.
c) Restart X and you are set

Thanks for the help. I used synaptic and all seemed to go well. I ran the b) command and got basically the same as yours, but wasn't clear on any changes needed to be made and did not understand the incorporate to xorg.conf. file part.

So I just closed the gedit and typed startx. I got the following

X : warning: process set to Priority -1 instead of requested priority 0

Fatal server error:
Server is already active for display 0
If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.XO-llock and start again.

When I typed fglrxinfo, I got: xlib: extension "XFree-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
Still mesa.

Another question. How do I edit the mozilla config file, so as I can copy and paste on DH?

And thanks again to everyone for using your time to help.

RIV@NVX · Apr 26, 2005, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronnn

Thanks for the help. I used synaptic and all seemed to go well. I ran the b) command and got basically the same as yours, but wasn't clear on any changes needed to be made and did not understand the incorporate to xorg.conf. file part.

So I just closed the gedit and typed startx. I got the following

X : warning: process set to Priority -1 instead of requested priority 0

Fatal server error:
Server is already active for display 0
If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.XO-llock and start again.

Did you type that without exiting X previously.

Quote:

When I typed fglrxinfo, I got: xlib: extension "XFree-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
Still mesa.

You will need to manually compile kernel interfaces. There is a howto in ATI linux forum, give it a shot.

Quote:

Another question. How do I edit the mozilla config file, so as I can copy and paste on DH?

You can't copy and paste on DH? That's strange. It should work out of the box.

*rgregory* · May 3, 2005, 04:58 PM

If you are already using the graphical login screen that ubuntu provides by default, then the following command should restart X cleanly and bring you back to the login prompt (WARNING: save your work first):

/etc/init.d/gdm restart

Cut and paste work fine for me in firefox also, although I wish they would port mozex to firefox already so I could spellcheck these form entries. Now THAT was a useful mozilla extension.

UberLord · May 3, 2005, 06:39 PM

ctrl-alt-backspace also works - it's not as clean as restarting gdm, but it's loads quicker.

DISCLAIMER: X can be configured to ignore the above key-combo - I have no idea if it's been disabled in ubuntus X

RIV@NVX · May 3, 2005, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UberLord

DISCLAIMER: X can be configured to ignore the above key-combo - I have no idea if it's been disabled in ubuntus X

It worked last time I tried it as far as I remember.

Apr 26, 2005, 03:32 AM	#1
ronnn DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 617 Rep Power: 0	Ubantu newbie - more questions Ok, I have sound and will install ATi drivers when more comfortable. I need to install java to use cgoban (I use this program more than any other). I have the latest java on my desktop. Any step by step process I can follow to install this? Needs to assume I know nothing, except how to open the terminal. Also would like to install an installing program. Any reccomendations? Thanks in advance!

Apr 26, 2005, 09:21 AM	#4
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UberLord A Legend in Underwear Join Date: May 2002 Location: Unknown Posts: 5,255 Rep Power: 70	ctrl-alt-backspace also works - it's not as clean as restarting gdm, but it's loads quicker. DISCLAIMER: X can be configured to ignore the above key-combo - I have no idea if it's been disabled in ubuntus X __________________ Gentoo Linux - Developer (baselayout) Read my blog "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." Stephen Roberts

Apr 26, 2005, 06:57 AM	Thread Starter #2
ronnn DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 617 Rep Power: 0	I got java loaded using the Ubantu guide, actually worked. Am just trying to figure out flashplayer and shockwave.

Apr 26, 2005, 08:58 AM	Thread Starter #3
ronnn DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 617 Rep Power: 0	got flashplayer installed. Anyone ever installed cgoban? This is hard.

Apr 26, 2005, 09:32 AM	Thread Starter #5
ronnn DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 617 Rep Power: 0	Any trick to installing Synaptic?

May 3, 2005, 04:58 PM	#13
rgregory ATI Linux Staff Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	If you are already using the graphical login screen that ubuntu provides by default, then the following command should restart X cleanly and bring you back to the login prompt (WARNING: save your work first): /etc/init.d/gdm restart Cut and paste work fine for me in firefox also, although I wish they would port mozex to firefox already so I could spellcheck these form entries. Now THAT was a useful mozilla extension.