Mobility Radeon 9000 IGP for Windows 98

sombrabr · Mar 11, 2005, 08:08 PM

Hi everybody!

I´ve tried to install the Omegadrivers´ Radeon driver for Windows 98, but it couldn´t detect the chipset in my machine, a Toshiba Satellite A70-S249.

Does anybody know how can I make it happen?

Thanks,

Eduardo

Tipstaff · Mar 12, 2005, 02:23 AM

First up, welcome to the DH forums!

Omegas drivers do not support the 9000/9100 IGP chipset series (also known as the RS300). They only support the actual 9000/9200 series of video cards (known as the M9 series). Omega has also stopped supporting the 98/ME drivers. You might want to check around the net for other drivers that may support 98SE/ME for your IGP chipset, or you might have to stick with the manufacturers drivers (if they make them). Check other laptop manufacturers that use the same chipset to see if they also make drivers for 98SE/ME.

Sorry I couldn't be more help.

- Tip

ChoGGi · Mar 12, 2005, 08:24 AM

give me your email and i'll send you some files that'll hopefully work

Mort_Cinder · Mar 12, 2005, 02:38 PM

hi, i just wanted to tell u that tipstaff is incorrect. the omega drivers DO support ati mobility 9000 IGP card. i know this for a fact because i have the same card in my hp laptop and i am using the omega drivers with no problems!

ChoGGi · Mar 12, 2005, 03:37 PM

are you using his 2k/xp drivers?

Mort_Cinder · Mar 12, 2005, 04:29 PM

me? yes, xp.

ChoGGi · Mar 12, 2005, 04:42 PM

his 2k/xp drivers have support for the cards but the win9x dont

Mort_Cinder · Mar 12, 2005, 04:57 PM

ah, i see. sombrabr i would recomend you then to download the official ati catalysts for win98. although i am not sure they support IGP cards.
if not, as tipstaff said, try googling for another place to download the driver from.

Tipstaff · Mar 12, 2005, 05:36 PM

ATI's 98SE/ME drivers should work with that chipset, but not always. If you look in the inf installation files the one labeled as C8_21000.inf has a listing for that particular chipset, but none of the other infs do. Windows should search through all of them in that folder, but it can screw up. One thing to try would be to manually install them. ATI dumps all the files into the C:\ATI\SUPPORT folder . In the case of the newest driver you want C:\ATI\SUPPORT\wme-8-03-98-3-050117a-021000e\Driver\9X_INF and pick the C8_21000.inf file. Manually update the video driver from device manager, and point it to that file.

That said, I can't garuantee it will work. All you can do is try.

- Tip

sombrabr · Mar 14, 2005, 08:57 PM

Tipstaff, I've installed the ATI RADEON 9000/9100 PRO IGP series on my notebook, but, as I supposed, the 1280x800 mode does not exist. The 1024x768 is working very well. Anyway, thanks for the welcome

ChoGGI, send the drivers you have to sombrabr@ig.com.br.

I will start digging the internet to search any notebook manufacturer that works with a similar chipset and try to use the 1280x800 mode.

Thank you all!

ChoGGi · Mar 14, 2005, 11:44 PM

check your email and you can use refreshfix to add a display mode

see #6 if you need more help doing it
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/windows-xp-radeon-display-drivers/69335-common-problems-fixes.html

seskanda · Dec 5, 2006, 08:14 AM

I tried everything mentioned in this thread, but i can't get the Mobility Radeon 9000 drivers to work in Win 98SE. What can i do?

ChoGGi · Dec 5, 2006, 08:37 AM

be more descriptive

what error message(s) do you receive when installing the drivers?
what's your laptop model?
whats your device id (start>run>type in devmgmt.msc then goto display adapters>video card>properties>details)?
and what driver version are you trying to install?

seskanda · Dec 5, 2006, 08:15 PM

I receive these errors:'INF Error. Video driver not found.' followed by 'Setup was unable to complete the installation.Try to setup your display adapter with a standard VGA driver before running Setup.' My laptop is a Dell Inspiron 600m. I have Win98SE, and when i try to run 'devmgmt.msc' it says 'cannot find the file.' I'm trying to install the only Win98 version of the Catalyst driver i could find, v3.1, which i downloaded from oldapps.com.

ChoGGi · Dec 5, 2006, 09:42 PM

sorry i forgot devmgmt isnt for 98. you can use this to find the device id
http://www.halfdone.com/Development/UnknownDevices/

check #5 and see if it helps any (the directions are for xp but if you know where device manager is then you should be all right)
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthread.php?t=69335

Akule50 · Dec 6, 2006, 12:41 AM

[color="#cc00ff"]
Since the "Inspiron 600m" uses the same "Dell ATI Mobility Radeon 9000 video driver" as the "Latitude D600" (according to "this page")...

Then the "Omega Catalyst 4.2 Win98SE/ME drivers" ("click here") should work for the I-600m, too (as mentioned in a past DellTalk "L-D600 thread").

Aloha,
Rod[/color]

seskanda · Dec 6, 2006, 06:55 AM

Thanks everyone for their help. I finally got it working. The Trick was to download v5.2 of the Catalyst drivers and choose 'ATI Mobility Radeon X300' when installing the driver manually. I recall XP saying the model# was 9000. Anyways, although 98 detected it, i can't change the hertz settings for my monitor. Also, how can i install ATI control panel?

Akule50 · Dec 7, 2006, 02:09 AM

[color="#cc00ff"]
That doesn't sound right...
The "'ATI Mobility Radeon X300" is a "PCI-E" card, which my sons have in their I-6000d and I-9300 systems...

The "Inspiron 600m" uses the "ATI Mobility Radeon 9000", according to the specs listed in the "I-600m Owner's Manual").

It sounds like you didn't install the latest "Win98SE Intel Chipset driver" for the I-600m "Intel 855 chipset". You can download it from the Intel website ("click here"). [/color]
"The Intel Chipset Software Installation Utility is the first driver to install. If it is required for your system, it should be installed immediately after installing your operating system and any operating system service packs.

The Intel Chipset Software Installation Utility files inform the operating system how to properly configure the chipset for specific functionality, such as AGP, USB, Core PCI, and ISA PnP services. In order to be able to install any chipset-related drivers (e.g. graphics, IDE, etc.), your operating system must first be able to recognize your chipset." [color="#cc00ff"]

You might want to uninstall the Cat. 5.2 drivers (or do another "Clean Install" of Win98SE) and install the Intel chipset drivers. Then try the Omega Catalyst 4.2 drivers...

Aloha,
Rod [/color]

seskanda · Dec 7, 2006, 11:29 AM

Yeah, i think your right. These drivers are wrong. While the display looks fine most of the time, there are small quirks and glitches as well. On top of that, i'm getting too many illegal operation errors in IE 5 having to do with Kernel32.dll, Mshtml.dll, or oleaut32.dll that cite bad video card drivers as a cause. Although, i did install the latest chipset drivers from Intel's site. Wow. That's bizarre how 98SE let me install the driver.

I have nothing to lose, so, i'm gonna do another clean install of 98SE. Are there any service packs,etc that i should install before installing the chipset driver?

Slightly off topic, but how can i get 98SE to display the battery icon in the system tray? I have to press Fn+F3 (which goes in bios) to see how much of the battery remains. Also, everytime 98SE loads it makes a loud beeping noise (i've muted and turned the volume down of the PC Speaker, too) but it doesn't make a difference. I don't think the video driver is to blame, because i believe it's been making the noise ever since i installed 98SE.

Akule50 · Dec 7, 2006, 09:22 PM

[color="#cc00ff"]
There's an "UNOFFICIAL Windows98 Second Edition Service Pack" that I've used in the past... ("click here"). This version (2.1a) was released Nov. 29, 2005...

Is Win98SE installing ACPI during the Win98SE install?
ACPI usually causes a lot more problems with the newer Intel chipsets... as mentioned in " this thread" and some of it's links.

"battery icon in the system tray"
I don't have access to a Win98SE notebook, right now, but if I remember right... [/color]
Click "Start/Settings/Control Panel"
Double-click on "Power Management"
Click the "Advanced" tab
Put a check-mark in the "Always show icon in taskbar" option
[color="#cc00ff"]
Take a look at the thread where a few of us installed Win98SE on an Inspiron 6000d/9300 and a Latitude D610 ("click here"). It might give you some ideas on getting around the problems when installing Win98SE on later systems...

Aloha,
Rod [/color]

seskanda · Dec 7, 2006, 10:51 PM

I dont know if win98se installed ACPI. I didn't see anything called 'ACPI' in Device Manager under System devices. Does that answer your question? I already ticked the 'Always show icon on taskbar' button, but while the AC Power icon now shows, when i am on battery, the 'On AC Power' is STILL the ONLY one visible. The battery icon is nowhere in sight when i'm using the battery. Ironically, the battery icon appears after i manually install ACPI via Add New Hardware. It wouldn't fully work, until i added the "ACPIOption" in the registry and set it to 1. Of course, now, Fn+F3 won't work anymore. I think i liked that better. I wish i could find what's causing that annoying beep when win98se loads...

Is the command to install Win98se withOUT ACPI: setup /pi OR setup /p i? The latter has a space between p and i. I've seen both, don't know if they do different things or if only one of 'em will work. Also, why can't i install Advanced Power Management (APM)? I didn't see it in in Device Manager under System devices, nor did i see it as an option to install via Add New Hardware under System devices. Is there a way to enable it in the BIOS? Finally, is it wise to choose the 'Portable' option when installing Win98SE? I doubt the other options will recognize PCMCIA devices, though.

Akule50 · Dec 8, 2006, 01:33 AM

[color="#cc00ff"]
The command to install Win98se without ACPI is the latter (space between p and i)... Although, it seems that your install might've defaulted to using APM instead of ACPI.

I'm going to guess your system is running in "Compatibility Mode" (check "System Properties/Performance tab" - if I recall correctly), your optical drive isn't recognized and your system seems to be running slow...
Had you read through the last link I posted... the solution is on page 2 ("click here"). Read the 3rd from the last post and the last post....

If you read through the whole thread... it might address any other problems you might encounter, also!

Aloha,
Rod [/color]

seskanda · Dec 8, 2006, 09:36 AM

Well, i finally re-installed 98SE with the /p i command. I installed the unofficial service pack and my chipset drivers in the same order mentioned in the previous posts. The beeps, so far, appear to be gone. I've installled The Radeon Omega v4.2 driver, and it's working fine, but the Control Panel is giving me problems. When i choose run it sometimes it says "An error occured while Windows was working with Control Panel file C:\Windows\System\Desk.cpl." After this, the control panel immediate exits. It ALWAYS says the above error when i choose the 'Options' tab. I really need to access the control panel as there are various defaults i want to change. Any idea what's going on?

Regarding ACPI, if it's not installed, then how come all my devices are being assigned to IRQ 11? I recall XP always did this, but doesnt 98SE ONLY do this if ACPI is present? So far, my video card driver, wireless card, sound card, and even the USB controllers are ALL on IRQ 11. I know, for a fact, that many problems arise when the sound card and video card share the same IRQ, especially when recording sound. Of course, 98SE won't let me change the IRQ of ANY of these devices. The BIOS for this laptop has very limited options. Something like a PnP aware OS option would be great to find/have. Is there anything i can do?

ChoGGi · Dec 8, 2006, 12:49 PM

see if this fixes the control panel error
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q217752/

Akule50 · Dec 8, 2006, 02:47 PM

[color="#cc00ff"]
That error message is usually associated with a corrupt video driver install...

Before trying Microsoft's resolution or reinstalling Win98SE, see if doing a manual install of the Omega driver might help.
Use the "Update Driver" wizard in "Device Manager" and "specify the location of the driver". Browse to the Omega ATi 9x INF... (if I recall correctly, C:\Program Files\Omega\Win9x)

You could also try Spike's DriverCleaner (DriverHeaven forum's Tool section) and reinstall the Omega Catalyst drivers (don't remember if the Omega 4.2 included DriverCleaner)... but sometimes installing the driver manually and then running the installation program works out better, if you're having problems.

Aloha,
Rod [/color]

seskanda · Dec 8, 2006, 08:11 PM

I finally got eveything to work. The trick this time was simply to run "(Re) Install Omga Drivers" from the Radeon Omega drivers program group. I notice now that there is a Directx icon in Windows control panel. The Omega Control Panel works great, now. Everything is fine, except for the fact that practically all my devices are using IRQ 11, and 98SE won't let me change that...

Akule50 · Dec 9, 2006, 12:58 AM

[color="#cc00ff"]
I think that you might have resource conflicts, somewhere, which might cause all your devices to use IRQ 11 (not sure - CRS).

Is your Optical drive (CD or DVD) recognized?
I mentioned this in my previous post with a link to the instructions. After clicking on that link, read the last post…

You need to go through every listing in "Device Manager" and check for conflicts...

Aloha,
Rod [/color]

seskanda · Dec 9, 2006, 11:00 AM

Yes, 98SE detects my optical drive fine, the model and all. I've checked everything in Device Manager and msinfo32, but i can't find a resource conflict anywhere. All my devices say they're 'working properly.' As a suspected, my sound card has trouble playing midi files. I have dropouts/cut notes in larger, busier midis. The driver i used was mentioned in one of those many threads posted above. In fact, i believe it is from Intel called "5.10.3686.certified.exe." I'm almost certain that all my devices (including the sound card) being on IRQ 11 is to blame. In XP, i recall the sound card was on IRQ 5. This is starting to drive me nuts. I only have the nerve to re-install 98SE ONE last time, and i'm not going to do that until i figure out why the hell all my devices keep using IRQ 11. Otherwise, it's back to XP i go.

Mar 11, 2005, 08:08 PM	#1
sombrabr DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Mobility Radeon 9000 IGP for Windows 98 Hi everybody! I´ve tried to install the Omegadrivers´ Radeon driver for Windows 98, but it couldn´t detect the chipset in my machine, a Toshiba Satellite A70-S249. Does anybody know how can I make it happen? Thanks, Eduardo

Mar 12, 2005, 02:23 AM	#2
Tipstaff HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Real capital of Canada: Torauna Posts: 6,773 Rep Power: 191 System Specs	First up, welcome to the DH forums! Omegas drivers do not support the 9000/9100 IGP chipset series (also known as the RS300). They only support the actual 9000/9200 series of video cards (known as the M9 series). Omega has also stopped supporting the 98/ME drivers. You might want to check around the net for other drivers that may support 98SE/ME for your IGP chipset, or you might have to stick with the manufacturers drivers (if they make them). Check other laptop manufacturers that use the same chipset to see if they also make drivers for 98SE/ME. Sorry I couldn't be more help. - Tip __________________ Portal: The Flash Version _________________________________ Brain: So, you sacked the cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker? Mr. Sackett: The second cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker I've sacked since the sixth sitting sheet slitter got sick.

Mar 12, 2005, 08:24 AM	#3
ChoGGi DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,209 Rep Power: 0	give me your email and i'll send you some files that'll hopefully work __________________ specs Common Problems and Fixes for your Radeon

Mar 12, 2005, 04:42 PM	#7
ChoGGi DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,209 Rep Power: 0	his 2k/xp drivers have support for the cards but the win9x dont __________________ specs Common Problems and Fixes for your Radeon

Mar 12, 2005, 05:36 PM	#9
Tipstaff HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Real capital of Canada: Torauna Posts: 6,773 Rep Power: 191 System Specs	ATI's 98SE/ME drivers should work with that chipset, but not always. If you look in the inf installation files the one labeled as C8_21000.inf has a listing for that particular chipset, but none of the other infs do. Windows should search through all of them in that folder, but it can screw up. One thing to try would be to manually install them. ATI dumps all the files into the C:\ATI\SUPPORT folder . In the case of the newest driver you want C:\ATI\SUPPORT\wme-8-03-98-3-050117a-021000e\Driver\9X_INF and pick the C8_21000.inf file. Manually update the video driver from device manager, and point it to that file. That said, I can't garuantee it will work. All you can do is try. - Tip __________________ Portal: The Flash Version _________________________________ Brain: So, you sacked the cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker? Mr. Sackett: The second cocky khaki Kicky Sack sock plucker I've sacked since the sixth sitting sheet slitter got sick.

Mar 12, 2005, 02:38 PM	#4
Mort_Cinder I want some ATI lovin' Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: MK, UK Posts: 1,034 Rep Power: 0	hi, i just wanted to tell u that tipstaff is incorrect. the omega drivers DO support ati mobility 9000 IGP card. i know this for a fact because i have the same card in my hp laptop and i am using the omega drivers with no problems!

Mar 12, 2005, 03:37 PM	#5
ChoGGi DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,209 Rep Power: 0	are you using his 2k/xp drivers? __________________ specs Common Problems and Fixes for your Radeon

Mar 12, 2005, 04:29 PM	#6
Mort_Cinder I want some ATI lovin' Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: MK, UK Posts: 1,034 Rep Power: 0	me? yes, xp.

Mar 12, 2005, 04:57 PM	#8
Mort_Cinder I want some ATI lovin' Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: MK, UK Posts: 1,034 Rep Power: 0	ah, i see. sombrabr i would recomend you then to download the official ati catalysts for win98. although i am not sure they support IGP cards. if not, as tipstaff said, try googling for another place to download the driver from.

Mar 14, 2005, 08:57 PM	Thread Starter #10
sombrabr DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Tipstaff, I've installed the ATI RADEON 9000/9100 PRO IGP series on my notebook, but, as I supposed, the 1280x800 mode does not exist. The 1024x768 is working very well. Anyway, thanks for the welcome ChoGGI, send the drivers you have to sombrabr@ig.com.br. I will start digging the internet to search any notebook manufacturer that works with a similar chipset and try to use the 1280x800 mode. Thank you all!

Mar 14, 2005, 11:44 PM	#11
ChoGGi DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,209 Rep Power: 0	check your email and you can use refreshfix to add a display mode see #6 if you need more help doing it http://www.hardwareheaven.com/windows-xp-radeon-display-drivers/69335-common-problems-fixes.html __________________ specs Common Problems and Fixes for your Radeon

Dec 5, 2006, 08:14 AM	#12
seskanda DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 39 Rep Power: 0	I tried everything mentioned in this thread, but i can't get the Mobility Radeon 9000 drivers to work in Win 98SE. What can i do?

Dec 5, 2006, 08:37 AM	#13
ChoGGi DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,209 Rep Power: 0	be more descriptive what error message(s) do you receive when installing the drivers? what's your laptop model? whats your device id (start>run>type in devmgmt.msc then goto display adapters>video card>properties>details)? and what driver version are you trying to install? __________________ specs Common Problems and Fixes for your Radeon

Dec 5, 2006, 08:15 PM	#14
seskanda DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 39 Rep Power: 0	I receive these errors:'INF Error. Video driver not found.' followed by 'Setup was unable to complete the installation.Try to setup your display adapter with a standard VGA driver before running Setup.' My laptop is a Dell Inspiron 600m. I have Win98SE, and when i try to run 'devmgmt.msc' it says 'cannot find the file.' I'm trying to install the only Win98 version of the Catalyst driver i could find, v3.1, which i downloaded from oldapps.com.

Dec 5, 2006, 09:42 PM	#15
ChoGGi DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,209 Rep Power: 0	sorry i forgot devmgmt isnt for 98. you can use this to find the device id http://www.halfdone.com/Development/UnknownDevices/ check #5 and see if it helps any (the directions are for xp but if you know where device manager is then you should be all right) http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthread.php?t=69335 __________________ specs Common Problems and Fixes for your Radeon

Dec 6, 2006, 12:41 AM	#16
Akule50 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Oahu, HI Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	[color="#cc00ff"] Since the "Inspiron 600m" uses the same "Dell ATI Mobility Radeon 9000 video driver" as the "Latitude D600" (according to "this page")... Then the "Omega Catalyst 4.2 Win98SE/ME drivers" ("click here") should work for the I-600m, too (as mentioned in a past DellTalk "L-D600 thread"). Aloha, Rod[/color]

Dec 6, 2006, 06:55 AM	#17
seskanda DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 39 Rep Power: 0	Thanks everyone for their help. I finally got it working. The Trick was to download v5.2 of the Catalyst drivers and choose 'ATI Mobility Radeon X300' when installing the driver manually. I recall XP saying the model# was 9000. Anyways, although 98 detected it, i can't change the hertz settings for my monitor. Also, how can i install ATI control panel?

Dec 7, 2006, 02:09 AM	#18
Akule50 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Oahu, HI Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	[color="#cc00ff"] That doesn't sound right... The "'ATI Mobility Radeon X300" is a "PCI-E" card, which my sons have in their I-6000d and I-9300 systems... The "Inspiron 600m" uses the "ATI Mobility Radeon 9000", according to the specs listed in the "I-600m Owner's Manual"). It sounds like you didn't install the latest "Win98SE Intel Chipset driver" for the I-600m "Intel 855 chipset". You can download it from the Intel website ("click here"). [/color] "The Intel Chipset Software Installation Utility is the first driver to install. If it is required for your system, it should be installed immediately after installing your operating system and any operating system service packs. The Intel Chipset Software Installation Utility files inform the operating system how to properly configure the chipset for specific functionality, such as AGP, USB, Core PCI, and ISA PnP services. In order to be able to install any chipset-related drivers (e.g. graphics, IDE, etc.), your operating system must first be able to recognize your chipset." [color="#cc00ff"] You might want to uninstall the Cat. 5.2 drivers (or do another "Clean Install" of Win98SE) and install the Intel chipset drivers. Then try the Omega Catalyst 4.2 drivers... Aloha, Rod [/color]

Dec 7, 2006, 11:29 AM	#19
seskanda DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 39 Rep Power: 0	Yeah, i think your right. These drivers are wrong. While the display looks fine most of the time, there are small quirks and glitches as well. On top of that, i'm getting too many illegal operation errors in IE 5 having to do with Kernel32.dll, Mshtml.dll, or oleaut32.dll that cite bad video card drivers as a cause. Although, i did install the latest chipset drivers from Intel's site. Wow. That's bizarre how 98SE let me install the driver. I have nothing to lose, so, i'm gonna do another clean install of 98SE. Are there any service packs,etc that i should install before installing the chipset driver? Slightly off topic, but how can i get 98SE to display the battery icon in the system tray? I have to press Fn+F3 (which goes in bios) to see how much of the battery remains. Also, everytime 98SE loads it makes a loud beeping noise (i've muted and turned the volume down of the PC Speaker, too) but it doesn't make a difference. I don't think the video driver is to blame, because i believe it's been making the noise ever since i installed 98SE.

Dec 7, 2006, 09:22 PM	#20
Akule50 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Oahu, HI Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	[color="#cc00ff"] There's an "UNOFFICIAL Windows98 Second Edition Service Pack" that I've used in the past... ("click here"). This version (2.1a) was released Nov. 29, 2005... Is Win98SE installing ACPI during the Win98SE install? ACPI usually causes a lot more problems with the newer Intel chipsets... as mentioned in " this thread" and some of it's links. "battery icon in the system tray" I don't have access to a Win98SE notebook, right now, but if I remember right... [/color] Click "Start/Settings/Control Panel" Double-click on "Power Management" Click the "Advanced" tab Put a check-mark in the "Always show icon in taskbar" option [color="#cc00ff"] Take a look at the thread where a few of us installed Win98SE on an Inspiron 6000d/9300 and a Latitude D610 ("click here"). It might give you some ideas on getting around the problems when installing Win98SE on later systems... Aloha, Rod [/color]

Dec 7, 2006, 10:51 PM	#21
seskanda DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 39 Rep Power: 0	I dont know if win98se installed ACPI. I didn't see anything called 'ACPI' in Device Manager under System devices. Does that answer your question? I already ticked the 'Always show icon on taskbar' button, but while the AC Power icon now shows, when i am on battery, the 'On AC Power' is STILL the ONLY one visible. The battery icon is nowhere in sight when i'm using the battery. Ironically, the battery icon appears after i manually install ACPI via Add New Hardware. It wouldn't fully work, until i added the "ACPIOption" in the registry and set it to 1. Of course, now, Fn+F3 won't work anymore. I think i liked that better. I wish i could find what's causing that annoying beep when win98se loads... Is the command to install Win98se withOUT ACPI: setup /pi OR setup /p i? The latter has a space between p and i. I've seen both, don't know if they do different things or if only one of 'em will work. Also, why can't i install Advanced Power Management (APM)? I didn't see it in in Device Manager under System devices, nor did i see it as an option to install via Add New Hardware under System devices. Is there a way to enable it in the BIOS? Finally, is it wise to choose the 'Portable' option when installing Win98SE? I doubt the other options will recognize PCMCIA devices, though.

Dec 8, 2006, 01:33 AM	#22
Akule50 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Oahu, HI Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	[color="#cc00ff"] The command to install Win98se without ACPI is the latter (space between p and i)... Although, it seems that your install might've defaulted to using APM instead of ACPI. I'm going to guess your system is running in "Compatibility Mode" (check "System Properties/Performance tab" - if I recall correctly), your optical drive isn't recognized and your system seems to be running slow... Had you read through the last link I posted... the solution is on page 2 ("click here"). Read the 3rd from the last post and the last post.... If you read through the whole thread... it might address any other problems you might encounter, also! Aloha, Rod [/color]

Dec 8, 2006, 09:36 AM	#23
seskanda DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 39 Rep Power: 0	Well, i finally re-installed 98SE with the /p i command. I installed the unofficial service pack and my chipset drivers in the same order mentioned in the previous posts. The beeps, so far, appear to be gone. I've installled The Radeon Omega v4.2 driver, and it's working fine, but the Control Panel is giving me problems. When i choose run it sometimes it says "An error occured while Windows was working with Control Panel file C:\Windows\System\Desk.cpl." After this, the control panel immediate exits. It ALWAYS says the above error when i choose the 'Options' tab. I really need to access the control panel as there are various defaults i want to change. Any idea what's going on? Regarding ACPI, if it's not installed, then how come all my devices are being assigned to IRQ 11? I recall XP always did this, but doesnt 98SE ONLY do this if ACPI is present? So far, my video card driver, wireless card, sound card, and even the USB controllers are ALL on IRQ 11. I know, for a fact, that many problems arise when the sound card and video card share the same IRQ, especially when recording sound. Of course, 98SE won't let me change the IRQ of ANY of these devices. The BIOS for this laptop has very limited options. Something like a PnP aware OS option would be great to find/have. Is there anything i can do? Last edited by seskanda; Dec 8, 2006 at 09:45 AM.

Dec 8, 2006, 12:49 PM	#24
ChoGGi DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,209 Rep Power: 0	see if this fixes the control panel error http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q217752/ __________________ specs Common Problems and Fixes for your Radeon

Dec 8, 2006, 02:47 PM	#25
Akule50 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Oahu, HI Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	[color="#cc00ff"] That error message is usually associated with a corrupt video driver install... Before trying Microsoft's resolution or reinstalling Win98SE, see if doing a manual install of the Omega driver might help. Use the "Update Driver" wizard in "Device Manager" and "specify the location of the driver". Browse to the Omega ATi 9x INF... (if I recall correctly, C:\Program Files\Omega\Win9x) You could also try Spike's DriverCleaner (DriverHeaven forum's Tool section) and reinstall the Omega Catalyst drivers (don't remember if the Omega 4.2 included DriverCleaner)... but sometimes installing the driver manually and then running the installation program works out better, if you're having problems. Aloha, Rod [/color]

Dec 8, 2006, 08:11 PM	#26
seskanda DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 39 Rep Power: 0	I finally got eveything to work. The trick this time was simply to run "(Re) Install Omga Drivers" from the Radeon Omega drivers program group. I notice now that there is a Directx icon in Windows control panel. The Omega Control Panel works great, now. Everything is fine, except for the fact that practically all my devices are using IRQ 11, and 98SE won't let me change that...

Dec 9, 2006, 12:58 AM	#27
Akule50 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Oahu, HI Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	[color="#cc00ff"] I think that you might have resource conflicts, somewhere, which might cause all your devices to use IRQ 11 (not sure - CRS). Is your Optical drive (CD or DVD) recognized? I mentioned this in my previous post with a link to the instructions. After clicking on that link, read the last post… You need to go through every listing in "Device Manager" and check for conflicts... Aloha, Rod [/color]

Dec 9, 2006, 11:00 AM	#28
seskanda DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 39 Rep Power: 0	Yes, 98SE detects my optical drive fine, the model and all. I've checked everything in Device Manager and msinfo32, but i can't find a resource conflict anywhere. All my devices say they're 'working properly.' As a suspected, my sound card has trouble playing midi files. I have dropouts/cut notes in larger, busier midis. The driver i used was mentioned in one of those many threads posted above. In fact, i believe it is from Intel called "5.10.3686.certified.exe." I'm almost certain that all my devices (including the sound card) being on IRQ 11 is to blame. In XP, i recall the sound card was on IRQ 5. This is starting to drive me nuts. I only have the nerve to re-install 98SE ONE last time, and i'm not going to do that until i figure out why the hell all my devices keep using IRQ 11. Otherwise, it's back to XP i go. Last edited by seskanda; Dec 9, 2006 at 11:25 AM.