Anybody have a Radeon Mobility M6, talk about it here

bassfrk402 · Jun 20, 2005, 10:24 PM

I have a Toshiba Satellite 1905-s301... the stats compared to current specs of most laptops and PCs is miniscule. I have a 16mb graphics card that i have been pushing to the limits for 3+ years ever since i knew OmegaDrivers.

Does anybody have a similar crappy card that has been tweaked and improved. Anybody wanna tell their story or have advice on how to better improve these weak laptop graphics cards?

Meaker · Jun 21, 2005, 01:15 AM

Use a sledge hammer on the old one as an excuse to get a better one?

bassfrk402 · Jun 21, 2005, 02:30 AM

eh? i still have this crappy 16mb, i just want to improve its performance

KYPREO · Jun 21, 2005, 03:59 AM

I have a MR9600Pro. These days I consider it a weak card. I would put a M6 in the obsolete category.

I can play Doom 3, HL2, Farcry - all the demanding titles - but only just. Doom 3 is playable at 800x600 with shadows on, but 640x480 is better. HL2 can be played at medium settings with 2xAA at 1024x768. Farcry - medium settings at 1024x768 is fine. I give it a year before the M10/11s struggle to keep up - particularly because I am limited at 64mb vram.

What kills you with the card is the lack of onboard memory - 64mb is nothing these days and you have to play all modern games in low texture detail and/or lower res's.

Thing is with a 16mb card it won't meet the minimum specs of any new game by a long shot - some now need 128mb minimum. You can tweak a card all you like, but in the end M6s just don't have enough memory. It's given you 3+ years of service which is fantastic, but eventually, you will need to upgrade (assuming you want performance to play newer games).

bassfrk402 · Jun 21, 2005, 04:03 AM

tried upgrading buddy... its INTEGRATED. i hate laptops. i hate crappy 16mb gfx cards that use 1mb of ram cuz its crappy. if i knew there was better gfx for laptops i would have bought em. BUT 3 YEARS ago there wasnt. Just have u know, my 16mb has gotten me pretty far. it's like an old car i keep pushin.

certainly it doesnt meet the specs, but i ignore them anyways. i have tried the HL2 demo on my laptop, it seemed fine, but i had to minimize the detail somewhat. counterstrike is fine. all other games seem fine. but the new and cooler games might be a bigger challenge yet.

watching dvds is sinch on this heap of metal. what can i do about it? ya think upgrading to 1gb of ram will work? ive been running on 512

rob2687 · Jun 21, 2005, 04:13 AM

i have it on my crappy compaq evo laptop..it works just fine for what I need it to do.
If you're gonna be playing graphically intensive games, I don't know why you would get a laptop....

bassfrk402 · Jun 21, 2005, 04:43 AM

get me a time machine cuz i think i know now!... c'mon who would've known 3 years ago. i dont even have space for a PC let alone a laptop. This P.O.S was 2400 bucks

KYPREO · Jun 21, 2005, 05:38 AM

yeah I know it's integrated, but there are great gaming notebooks out there. ASUS offer some quite powerful notebooks - one with x700 128mb (dedicated) cards in them - 1gb of DDR2, pentium M processor, widescreen etc. These are around $2300 AUD or around US$1800 (although they are probably cheaper elsewhere than Australia). I don't how it works in your neck of the woods, but in Australia, I can claim 100% of the cost of my notebooks as a tax deduction and got around 30% of the cost back, plus 10% sales tax back.

I still think an integrated has given you quite good value because as you said, 3 years notebooks were virtually useless for games.

1gb of ram could help if you are noticing chugging etc because with 16mb you have textures constantly swapping in and out of the video card. But I wouldn't expect miracles.

bassfrk402 · Jun 21, 2005, 06:36 AM

nice... USA sucks. another reason to be an aussie

rob2687 · Jun 27, 2005, 09:43 PM

Does anybody know what the default clock rates are for the M6?

bassfrk402 · Jun 27, 2005, 10:13 PM

i think they are 165/165

Meaker · Jun 28, 2005, 12:04 AM

It will not be TOO long before they are upgradeable. I give it 2 years at the most for the gaming machines.

rob2687 · Jun 28, 2005, 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bassfrk402

i think they are 165/165

Yeah, that's what the radlinker thing says from the omega drivers.
I just found this,
http://www.ati.com/products/embedded/mobilityradeon/
which says 143/143. I installed ati tray tools and I was looking at the overclocking options when I got a ton of artifacts so I wasn't sure :/
The omegadrivers default to 165/165....

Jun 20, 2005, 10:24 PM	#1
bassfrk402 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	Anybody have a Radeon Mobility M6, talk about it here I have a Toshiba Satellite 1905-s301... the stats compared to current specs of most laptops and PCs is miniscule. I have a 16mb graphics card that i have been pushing to the limits for 3+ years ever since i knew OmegaDrivers. Does anybody have a similar crappy card that has been tweaked and improved. Anybody wanna tell their story or have advice on how to better improve these weak laptop graphics cards?

Jun 21, 2005, 01:15 AM	#2
Meaker #1 INTEL MAINSTREAM Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 0 Rep Power: 0	Use a sledge hammer on the old one as an excuse to get a better one? __________________ Home: Core 2 DUO @ 2.4ghz \| 2048mb GSKILL 5400 @ 450mhz 5-5-5-12 \| ASROCK P945 A2 based mobo \| ATI Radeon x1650pro \| 17" LCD widescreen \| Hiper Type R 480W PSU \| 250gb seagate HDD \| Uni: Core i7 920 C0 @ 3.8ghz HT on (1.325v) \| 6 Gigs Corsair XMS 3 1333DDR @ 1600DDR 8-8-8-20 1.5v \| Asus P6T-SE @ 200mhz BCLK \|2x Gigabyte HD 4770 Crossfire + Accelero S1s \| 21.6" widescreen LCD \| Sharkoon Rebel 7 + 600W Coolermaster silent PRO \| 2x320GB WD raid edition III Raid 0 \| Razor diamondback G3

Jun 21, 2005, 03:59 AM	#4
KYPREO DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 62 Rep Power: 0	I have a MR9600Pro. These days I consider it a weak card. I would put a M6 in the obsolete category. I can play Doom 3, HL2, Farcry - all the demanding titles - but only just. Doom 3 is playable at 800x600 with shadows on, but 640x480 is better. HL2 can be played at medium settings with 2xAA at 1024x768. Farcry - medium settings at 1024x768 is fine. I give it a year before the M10/11s struggle to keep up - particularly because I am limited at 64mb vram. What kills you with the card is the lack of onboard memory - 64mb is nothing these days and you have to play all modern games in low texture detail and/or lower res's. Thing is with a 16mb card it won't meet the minimum specs of any new game by a long shot - some now need 128mb minimum. You can tweak a card all you like, but in the end M6s just don't have enough memory. It's given you 3+ years of service which is fantastic, but eventually, you will need to upgrade (assuming you want performance to play newer games). __________________ Asus A2D notebook AMD XP-M 2800+ 512MB PC2700 RAM ATI Mobility Radeon 9600Pro/64mb dedicated DDR (stock = 350/180)

Jun 21, 2005, 05:38 AM	#8
KYPREO DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 62 Rep Power: 0	yeah I know it's integrated, but there are great gaming notebooks out there. ASUS offer some quite powerful notebooks - one with x700 128mb (dedicated) cards in them - 1gb of DDR2, pentium M processor, widescreen etc. These are around $2300 AUD or around US$1800 (although they are probably cheaper elsewhere than Australia). I don't how it works in your neck of the woods, but in Australia, I can claim 100% of the cost of my notebooks as a tax deduction and got around 30% of the cost back, plus 10% sales tax back. I still think an integrated has given you quite good value because as you said, 3 years notebooks were virtually useless for games. 1gb of ram could help if you are noticing chugging etc because with 16mb you have textures constantly swapping in and out of the video card. But I wouldn't expect miracles. __________________ Asus A2D notebook AMD XP-M 2800+ 512MB PC2700 RAM ATI Mobility Radeon 9600Pro/64mb dedicated DDR (stock = 350/180)

Jun 28, 2005, 12:04 AM	#12
Meaker #1 INTEL MAINSTREAM Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 0 Rep Power: 0	It will not be TOO long before they are upgradeable. I give it 2 years at the most for the gaming machines. __________________ Home: Core 2 DUO @ 2.4ghz \| 2048mb GSKILL 5400 @ 450mhz 5-5-5-12 \| ASROCK P945 A2 based mobo \| ATI Radeon x1650pro \| 17" LCD widescreen \| Hiper Type R 480W PSU \| 250gb seagate HDD \| Uni: Core i7 920 C0 @ 3.8ghz HT on (1.325v) \| 6 Gigs Corsair XMS 3 1333DDR @ 1600DDR 8-8-8-20 1.5v \| Asus P6T-SE @ 200mhz BCLK \|2x Gigabyte HD 4770 Crossfire + Accelero S1s \| 21.6" widescreen LCD \| Sharkoon Rebel 7 + 600W Coolermaster silent PRO \| 2x320GB WD raid edition III Raid 0 \| Razor diamondback G3

Jun 21, 2005, 02:30 AM	Thread Starter #3
bassfrk402 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	eh? i still have this crappy 16mb, i just want to improve its performance

Jun 21, 2005, 04:03 AM	Thread Starter #5
bassfrk402 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	tried upgrading buddy... its INTEGRATED. i hate laptops. i hate crappy 16mb gfx cards that use 1mb of ram cuz its crappy. if i knew there was better gfx for laptops i would have bought em. BUT 3 YEARS ago there wasnt. Just have u know, my 16mb has gotten me pretty far. it's like an old car i keep pushin. certainly it doesnt meet the specs, but i ignore them anyways. i have tried the HL2 demo on my laptop, it seemed fine, but i had to minimize the detail somewhat. counterstrike is fine. all other games seem fine. but the new and cooler games might be a bigger challenge yet. watching dvds is sinch on this heap of metal. what can i do about it? ya think upgrading to 1gb of ram will work? ive been running on 512

Jun 21, 2005, 04:13 AM	#6
rob2687 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	i have it on my crappy compaq evo laptop..it works just fine for what I need it to do. If you're gonna be playing graphically intensive games, I don't know why you would get a laptop....

Jun 21, 2005, 04:43 AM	Thread Starter #7
bassfrk402 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	get me a time machine cuz i think i know now!... c'mon who would've known 3 years ago. i dont even have space for a PC let alone a laptop. This P.O.S was 2400 bucks

Jun 21, 2005, 06:36 AM	Thread Starter #9
bassfrk402 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	nice... USA sucks. another reason to be an aussie

Jun 27, 2005, 09:43 PM	#10
rob2687 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	Does anybody know what the default clock rates are for the M6?

Jun 27, 2005, 10:13 PM	Thread Starter #11
bassfrk402 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	i think they are 165/165