What FPS so you get with CS source?

yoda133113 · Jul 7, 2005, 08:17 AM

i would get the desktop ones and mod them (that is what i run)

Tristar · Jul 7, 2005, 08:18 AM

well do you want to try a full server in cs_assault? could you tell me if your fps bombs below 20?

nitrousoxide52 · Jul 7, 2005, 08:18 AM

CPU could be bogged down. The stress test only tests graphics not cpu load.

Tristar · Jul 7, 2005, 08:22 AM

I hardly have anything running in the background, i even turn off my antivirus. And since i just reformated i hardly have anything else installed. Could it be defective RAM then?

nitrousoxide52 · Jul 7, 2005, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tristar

I hardly have anything running in the background, i even turn off my antivirus. And since i just reformated i hardly have anything else installed. Could it be defective RAM then?

No, I have defective RAM, and I know what it's like, it's not that. You will randomly freeze if you have stock FSB

, unless that's happening then your RAM should be fine.

Tristar · Jul 7, 2005, 08:33 AM

One thing is though, my steam seems to take up an enormous amount of memory. However i cant play CS without steam runing lol

nitrousoxide52 · Jul 7, 2005, 08:35 AM

Steam does do that, it's incredibly ineffecient, don't worry about it though, for what you lose to steam you gain back with the source engine, which is I would say the most effecient game engine to date.

Tristar · Jul 7, 2005, 08:43 AM

ok, well it looks like I will try to convince dell to send me a new card. In all the 9800 reviews they say it preforms 50% better then any other mobility card, i should get as much FPS as you 9700 guys shouldnt i?

yoda133113 · Jul 7, 2005, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tristar

well do you want to try a full server in cs_assault? could you tell me if your fps bombs below 20?

Nope sry man, I get 60 min and 130 max at 1024x768 no AA or AF high settings

Tristar · Jul 7, 2005, 11:49 PM

Stupid dell!! i just argued with them for 2 hours and they wont send me a new card lol.

yoda133113 · Jul 8, 2005, 03:23 AM

Rats, i really don't know what to tell you, good luck.

Tristar · Jul 9, 2005, 07:47 PM

ok, i finaly got good fps, once. Heres what happens i will turn my computer off ovenight, in the morning for about the first 5 minutes i play source i will get awsome fps, i ran the stress test with everything on high and got 112 average. But then after i joined an other server, my fps was back to being horrible. I ran the stress test again and got 56fps.

studbagel9 · Jul 11, 2005, 08:46 PM

Does your computer support CPU throttling? Are you running on battery when you play? With my laptop config (see below) and zer0point 5.6 drivers I get 70 ish frames on a LAN server with bots and 30-50 internet server at 1280x800 with midrange settings and 2x AA

Tristar · Jul 12, 2005, 07:49 AM

Im not sure what throttling is how do i find out? My laptop is always plugged in when i play games.

yoda133113 · Jul 12, 2005, 11:53 AM

then don't worry about it

trottling only comes into effect when your not plugged in

which processor do you have?

Tristar · Jul 12, 2005, 06:45 PM

Its a P4 3.2 Ghz with hyper threading

br00ksintexas · Jul 12, 2005, 11:03 PM

This is a possibility. How's the heat on your keypad when you're playing the game? I could be wrong, but your vents on the back, as well as your heatsink fins, could be plugged up. If it's a yr. old, and you haven't cleaned it too often, then that could be doing it. I was having the same problem with BF1942(Desert Final Mod) and omega drivers, at about the 1 yr. mark. I removed the back panel, cleaned out about a pound of crud, and installed the latest drivers. Now, it runs it fine. I'm even getting from 40 to 80 FPS on BF2 servers. Mind you, I'm also running on low and medium settings, due to a crappy ATI Mobility Radeon 9600 64mb(128 shared) card. Luckily, I've got a gig of Ram to help it out.
Good Luck
Kev

studbagel9 · Jul 13, 2005, 01:11 AM

That is what my comment about CPU throttling was for. If your computer is overheating it will underclock your card to cool down. Do what br00k suggested and blow your laptop out maybe?

Tristar · Jul 13, 2005, 06:43 AM

that is really helpful, i do get alot of dust where my laptop is, and i also eat near it lol. My 3 fans are on the botom of the laptop. I will try to take it apart and clean the fans, im not sure if i will be able to though.

Tristar · Jul 13, 2005, 09:56 PM

OMG!! that was the problem! you guys rock. There was a thick film of dust covering both vents, i could peel it off in one big chunk lol. My computer is working 100% better now, got 114fps average with everything on high, lowest my fps will drop is 40 on assault. Thanks everyone!

br00ksintexas · Jul 13, 2005, 11:12 PM

Good deal, Tristar. Glad to hear it worked out for you. I'm running a coolpad with my lappy, as well as cleaning it about every other week now. Usually, it doesn't go over 68 degrees celcius (IF mobilmeter is actually reading it correctly) during heavy gaming. I cleaned it last night, and while playing today I couldn't feel any heat at all on my keyboard, so as it seems, it makes ALL the difference in mobile gaming! =o) Again, congrats on fixing your prob....
Kev

Tristar · Jul 14, 2005, 12:25 AM

Where do you get mobilmeter and the coolpad? It might give me 20 more fps :P

br00ksintexas · Jul 14, 2005, 01:55 AM

I found Mobmeter online somewhere. It's a free program, so I'd google it. As for the cool pad, I bought mine at Fry's Electronics for about 30 bucks. I would think any large chain electronics store should have them, though. It seems to make a big difference in the heat of the GPU and keypad. I wish someone would make an actual refrigerated one. I can imagine how this thing would zoom if it was getting 35 degree air shoved up it's butt!!! LOL

yoda133113 · Jul 15, 2005, 07:57 AM

Congrats tristar, just goes to show you that the simplest answer is probably the most likely

.

also here is mobilemeter homepage

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nitrousoxide52 Driverheaven.com err .net Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,719 Rep Power: 0	CPU could be bogged down. The stress test only tests graphics not cpu load. __________________ AMD Athlon64 X2 3800+ XFX Geforce 7800GT ABIT AN8-SLI BFG Tech 650w

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nitrousoxide52 Driverheaven.com err .net Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,719 Rep Power: 0	Steam does do that, it's incredibly ineffecient, don't worry about it though, for what you lose to steam you gain back with the source engine, which is I would say the most effecient game engine to date. __________________ AMD Athlon64 X2 3800+ XFX Geforce 7800GT ABIT AN8-SLI BFG Tech 650w

Jul 8, 2005, 03:23 AM	#41
yoda133113 DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 309 Rep Power: 0	Rats, i really don't know what to tell you, good luck. __________________ [color=Yellow]Guild Wars Character: Corrupted Bubbles[/color] "The muffin isn't picky, Timmy. Nor is it tasty! But it is powerful. All hail the muffin!" Cosmo, Fairly Odd Parents "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion. He is not entitled to his own facts." Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan [color=Sienna]Gateway M680X P-M 750 1.86 GHz Alviso Mobility Radeon X700 128 MB 1 GB 400 MHz DDR2 60 GB 5400 RPM Hitachi HD QSI DVD+-RW DL 17" Widescreen [/color]

Jul 11, 2005, 08:46 PM	#43
studbagel9 Rolling the Hard Six Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lock Haven, PA Posts: 767 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Does your computer support CPU throttling? Are you running on battery when you play? With my laptop config (see below) and zer0point 5.6 drivers I get 70 ish frames on a LAN server with bots and 30-50 internet server at 1280x800 with midrange settings and 2x AA __________________

Jul 7, 2005, 08:18 AM	Thread Starter #32
Tristar DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 24 Rep Power: 0	well do you want to try a full server in cs_assault? could you tell me if your fps bombs below 20?

Jul 7, 2005, 08:22 AM	Thread Starter #34
Tristar DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 24 Rep Power: 0	I hardly have anything running in the background, i even turn off my antivirus. And since i just reformated i hardly have anything else installed. Could it be defective RAM then?

Jul 7, 2005, 08:33 AM	Thread Starter #36
Tristar DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 24 Rep Power: 0	One thing is though, my steam seems to take up an enormous amount of memory. However i cant play CS without steam runing lol

Jul 7, 2005, 08:43 AM	Thread Starter #38
Tristar DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 24 Rep Power: 0	ok, well it looks like I will try to convince dell to send me a new card. In all the 9800 reviews they say it preforms 50% better then any other mobility card, i should get as much FPS as you 9700 guys shouldnt i?

Jul 7, 2005, 11:49 PM	Thread Starter #40
Tristar DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 24 Rep Power: 0	Stupid dell!! i just argued with them for 2 hours and they wont send me a new card lol.

Jul 9, 2005, 07:47 PM	Thread Starter #42
Tristar DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 24 Rep Power: 0	ok, i finaly got good fps, once. Heres what happens i will turn my computer off ovenight, in the morning for about the first 5 minutes i play source i will get awsome fps, i ran the stress test with everything on high and got 112 average. But then after i joined an other server, my fps was back to being horrible. I ran the stress test again and got 56fps.

Jul 12, 2005, 07:49 AM	Thread Starter #44
Tristar DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 24 Rep Power: 0	Im not sure what throttling is how do i find out? My laptop is always plugged in when i play games.

Jul 12, 2005, 11:53 AM	#45
yoda133113 DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 309 Rep Power: 0	then don't worry about it trottling only comes into effect when your not plugged in which processor do you have? __________________ [color=Yellow]Guild Wars Character: Corrupted Bubbles[/color] "The muffin isn't picky, Timmy. Nor is it tasty! But it is powerful. All hail the muffin!" Cosmo, Fairly Odd Parents "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion. He is not entitled to his own facts." Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan [color=Sienna]Gateway M680X P-M 750 1.86 GHz Alviso Mobility Radeon X700 128 MB 1 GB 400 MHz DDR2 60 GB 5400 RPM Hitachi HD QSI DVD+-RW DL 17" Widescreen [/color]

Jul 12, 2005, 06:45 PM	Thread Starter #46
Tristar DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 24 Rep Power: 0	Its a P4 3.2 Ghz with hyper threading

Jul 12, 2005, 11:03 PM	#47
br00ksintexas DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2005 Location: Watauga, Texas (Just N. of Ft. Worth and S. of Keller) Posts: 119 Rep Power: 0	This is a possibility. How's the heat on your keypad when you're playing the game? I could be wrong, but your vents on the back, as well as your heatsink fins, could be plugged up. If it's a yr. old, and you haven't cleaned it too often, then that could be doing it. I was having the same problem with BF1942(Desert Final Mod) and omega drivers, at about the 1 yr. mark. I removed the back panel, cleaned out about a pound of crud, and installed the latest drivers. Now, it runs it fine. I'm even getting from 40 to 80 FPS on BF2 servers. Mind you, I'm also running on low and medium settings, due to a crappy ATI Mobility Radeon 9600 64mb(128 shared) card. Luckily, I've got a gig of Ram to help it out. Good Luck Kev

Jul 13, 2005, 01:11 AM	#48
studbagel9 Rolling the Hard Six Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lock Haven, PA Posts: 767 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	That is what my comment about CPU throttling was for. If your computer is overheating it will underclock your card to cool down. Do what br00k suggested and blow your laptop out maybe? __________________

Jul 13, 2005, 06:43 AM	Thread Starter #49
Tristar DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 24 Rep Power: 0	that is really helpful, i do get alot of dust where my laptop is, and i also eat near it lol. My 3 fans are on the botom of the laptop. I will try to take it apart and clean the fans, im not sure if i will be able to though.

Jul 13, 2005, 09:56 PM	Thread Starter #50
Tristar DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 24 Rep Power: 0	OMG!! that was the problem! you guys rock. There was a thick film of dust covering both vents, i could peel it off in one big chunk lol. My computer is working 100% better now, got 114fps average with everything on high, lowest my fps will drop is 40 on assault. Thanks everyone!

Jul 13, 2005, 11:12 PM	#51
br00ksintexas DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2005 Location: Watauga, Texas (Just N. of Ft. Worth and S. of Keller) Posts: 119 Rep Power: 0	Good deal, Tristar. Glad to hear it worked out for you. I'm running a coolpad with my lappy, as well as cleaning it about every other week now. Usually, it doesn't go over 68 degrees celcius (IF mobilmeter is actually reading it correctly) during heavy gaming. I cleaned it last night, and while playing today I couldn't feel any heat at all on my keyboard, so as it seems, it makes ALL the difference in mobile gaming! =o) Again, congrats on fixing your prob.... Kev

Jul 14, 2005, 12:25 AM	Thread Starter #52
Tristar DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 24 Rep Power: 0	Where do you get mobilmeter and the coolpad? It might give me 20 more fps :P

Jul 14, 2005, 01:55 AM	#53
br00ksintexas DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2005 Location: Watauga, Texas (Just N. of Ft. Worth and S. of Keller) Posts: 119 Rep Power: 0	I found Mobmeter online somewhere. It's a free program, so I'd google it. As for the cool pad, I bought mine at Fry's Electronics for about 30 bucks. I would think any large chain electronics store should have them, though. It seems to make a big difference in the heat of the GPU and keypad. I wish someone would make an actual refrigerated one. I can imagine how this thing would zoom if it was getting 35 degree air shoved up it's butt!!! LOL

Jul 15, 2005, 07:57 AM	#54
yoda133113 DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 309 Rep Power: 0	Congrats tristar, just goes to show you that the simplest answer is probably the most likely . also here is mobilemeter homepage __________________ [color=Yellow]Guild Wars Character: Corrupted Bubbles[/color] "The muffin isn't picky, Timmy. Nor is it tasty! But it is powerful. All hail the muffin!" Cosmo, Fairly Odd Parents "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion. He is not entitled to his own facts." Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan [color=Sienna]Gateway M680X P-M 750 1.86 GHz Alviso Mobility Radeon X700 128 MB 1 GB 400 MHz DDR2 60 GB 5400 RPM Hitachi HD QSI DVD+-RW DL 17" Widescreen [/color]