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Old Sep 13, 2005, 03:55 AM   #1
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Omega Drivers 5.7/5.8 don't detect LCD

Hello,

I've had great success with the Omega Catalyst drivers for quite some time on my HP laptop with a Mobility Radeon 9200 (it detects as a Mobility Radeon 9000). However, in your mods of version 5.7 and 5.8, the drivers install but don't detect my LCD screen and instead just show a blank screen. When I boot up using an external monitor on the VGA connection go to the Display tab, it shows TV out and VGA but not my LCD. I have no problem with the 5.6 Omega drivers (which shows all three in the display tab) so I'm sticking with those at the moment. If you have any suggestions, I'm all ears.

Thanks for the great work, best of luck to you.

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Old Sep 14, 2005, 08:05 PM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #2
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Old Sep 16, 2005, 09:30 AM   #3
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yes, bump, i have the same exact problem... some of these very knowledgeable guys out there surely must have some idea of what the problem is here...

I have the same exact experience. I have an HP Pavilion zt3000, with a Mobility 9200. I hope someone can share some insight so I can start thinking ahead as to how I will solve these problems.

Can a fix be hacked for Catalyst 5.7 or 5.8? Is there a valid cause for hope in 5.9, 5.10, or later? I once read that eventually Mobility 9000 and 9200 will be officially supported in Catalyst releases.... but I'm not sure what to believe.... no one seems authoratative! But yes, thanks for all the work all you contributors do. Greatly appreciated, it is.
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Old Sep 19, 2005, 05:00 AM   #4
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I've got the same problem as well. Ever since catalyst 5.8 came out, I haven't been able to install anything based on 5.8, including the omega drivers.

I also tried modding them with patje's tool as well, and the same garbled screen thing happens.

I notice that,in the Windows control panel, my monitors native resolution 1280x800 is not supported. This was not an issue with omega drivers prior to 5.8 so I wonder what, if anything changed.

It's not really a problem with my graphics cards or chips, I can use the "HP" drivers, but I've always used Omega drivers and don't want to stop now. has anyone fixed the monitor problem?

my laptop panel doesn't show up. usually there's 3 that do... laptop panel, analog display and tv out. i only see analog display and tv out... even with the omega drivers.
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Old Sep 19, 2005, 05:42 AM   #5
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Probably the most stable solution is going to be using the DH Mod Tool by Patje with the ATI Official desktop driver - non CCC. Give that a shot after using the DriverCleaner (following instructions) and leaving any external monitors or TV undone until the driver is installed and running ok. Post back with your results if you don't mind - OK fellas?

If you have any motherboard/chipset drivers available as an update from your laptop manufacturer's website please be sure to apply those first.
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Old Sep 19, 2005, 06:40 AM   #6
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Quote:
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Probably the most stable solution is going to be using the DH Mod Tool by Patje with the ATI Official desktop driver - non CCC.
Uh, I did.

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If you have any motherboard/chipset drivers available as an update from your laptop manufacturer's website please be sure to apply those first.
I said I tried them and they work... I want to use the Omega drivers though. Or mod the latest Catalysts though.
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Old Sep 21, 2005, 12:51 PM   #7
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Omega + MOd

Indeed both, the Omega and moded Cat, drivers produce the same error, as they don't detect the LCD. The result is a blak or distorted Display. The last Omegadriver wich worked was the 5.6.

The Problem with the manufacturer's drivers is, that they stop develloping after one year or so. So the last driver by HP is 5.4.

I have a Mobility Radeon 9200 in a compaq nx7010. It is also detected as a 9000, wich is imho ok because it's just a 9000 with a higher clock.

Maybe there is a way to force the driver somehow to detect the Notebook-LCD.

Any Suggestions?
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Old Sep 23, 2005, 07:02 AM   #8
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Well said donald_314.
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Old Sep 24, 2005, 06:44 PM   #9
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The 5.9 don't work either :-((
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Old Sep 25, 2005, 01:37 AM   #10
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Weird.

Double check the settings in your bios???
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Old Sep 25, 2005, 04:42 AM   #11
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same problem confirmed here on my HP Pavilion zt3000 with a Mobility "9200".

Newly confirmed Cat 5.9, modded. That makes 5.7-5.9, all with a problem or problems exhibiting the exact same behavior: non-functioning display (although I unlike others have not tried an external display)
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Old Sep 29, 2005, 07:31 PM   #12
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I have the same problem on my HP nx7000. The last OmegaDrivers that works for me is 2.6.42 (Catalyst 5.6).
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Old Sep 29, 2005, 10:07 PM   #13
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Hi guys, i have a problem, i'm a bit of newb, so take it easy on me. Anyway i have a 64mb ati radeon mobility 9000 and currently have the omega ati driver set 2.6.25a installed and direct x 9.0c installed. Anyway i'm trying to play fahrenheit but it keeps telling me that i need a video card that is direct x 9.0c [which i have installed] compliant. Obviously having a laptop changing my graphics card is not an option, any ideas?
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Old Oct 1, 2005, 11:48 PM   #14
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bilalmgs, please start a new thread. Your problem is a little off topic.
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Old Oct 5, 2005, 09:36 PM   #15
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I havent been able to get 5.7-5.9 working either...

However they will work on external vga. When i go into display it only shows vga and tv.

This is really tearing me up, becuase i just found out that the 5.9 driver is able to run bf2, which i havent been able to run so far....

Please help with a solution...

Laptop: HP3368, 1.7 centrino, ati 9200 m 64mb, 512 ram

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Old Oct 14, 2005, 01:58 PM   #16
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Thanks to Tek_No at this link BeBits - Ati Radeon Graphics Driver - Talkback
for the conceptual discovery that may help us.

Combating the distorted screen images present on 5.7 and later drivers for the HP zt3xxx series should be possible! (I've only tested it with 5.10 though). The problem seems to be in an incorrect setting of the pixel clock which can be directly adjusted using PowerStrip (under advanced timing options). I still run into problems that the screen remains distorted until PowerStrip can actually load at startup and screen scaling still shows the distortion as previous (so I've had to alter several games to run in a window or change their default res to match the native)

To use this, take a screenshot of the advanced timing options page in PowerStrip, load the new drivers and deal with the distortion long enough to reset the values in the advanced timing options.

It's not a great fix, but I hope this will encourage people to investigate more and come up with a better, cleaner fix that we can integrate at the driver level.
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Old Oct 26, 2005, 11:35 PM   #17
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I have been messing around with this, and have almost found a fix. I can get the pixels to "stand still" but there is still horizontal lines on my lcd. I have done by clicking my way... not the best way i think.

Hope somebody who knows what they are doing will look into this and hopefully come up with a solution.

Inferno Triangle: What laptop do you have? Have you fixed the screen problem? If yes could you please provide a screendump of you powerstrip values. Thanks

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Old Nov 1, 2005, 10:53 PM   #18
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Ya I've been having the garbled screen problems, but on top of that the new drivers make the refresh rate soar way too high. Every time I've had to quickly turn the computer off before parts of the screen fried itself. I have a Compaq Presario X1000 with a Mobility Radeon 9200. I guess its the 9200 that's causing the issues here, if someone finds a fix he would be the god of all of us with a 9200 right now, haha.
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Old Nov 2, 2005, 12:09 AM   #19
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It does not seem as if anything is being done to fix this though. Everytime a new cat driver comes out i am hoping it works but i am always dissapointed. It really sucks.

What to do
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Old Nov 2, 2005, 04:44 AM   #20
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well DriverHeaven opened up that thread to take the stats of us mobility users so maybe the dhZeropoint drivers will start working for mobility users soon enough. is the guy making the omega drivers even aware of the problems we're reporting though?
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Old Nov 2, 2005, 10:37 AM   #21
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thanks InfernoTriangle for pointing out the pixel clock error. Turns out you were right, I used PowerStrip in conjunction with the Omega Drivers and now it works smooth as ever. Only problem is, now I can run BF2, but it won't detect my max res, which is 1680 x 1050, so i have to play it in a window. still not the end of the world, works great in any case. for any of you out there with the Mobility 9200 problem, InfernoTriangle's solution is a terrific fix for now until the driver modders figure out why our 9200's produce this pixel clock glitch. (to clarify the procedure, run PowerStrip with regular manufacturer provided drivers and check what your normal pixel clock rate is. then after you install modded drivers, etc., go back to PowerStrip and fix the pixel clock rate to the setting you noted down before. every time you boot up you'll have a weird logon screen but that's because you have to wait for PowerStrip to load up so it can set the right pixel clock rate. Hope this helps you guys out for now.)
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Old Nov 2, 2005, 10:38 AM   #22
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I tried to contact the omega guy, but there was no reply. I guess there is so few people still on the radeon 9200 so he and other developers dont really care. Too bad for us
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Old Nov 2, 2005, 11:44 AM   #23
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I have tried the above fix without any luck though.

Have tried installing factory drivers - took a screendump of pstrip settings - installed omega drivers based on 5.10 - when boot up lcd was black - opened pstrip settings (using external display) have changed pixel clock to match - screen still black.

Have tried fiddeling with horiz and vert geometry in pstrip aswell. Can never get a useable result.

What are the exact steps that you took and what computer and graphics card do you have?

Mine is a hp zt3368 with rad m 9200 64mb
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Old Nov 6, 2005, 09:47 PM   #24
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Compaq Presario X1000
Mobility Radeon 9200 64 Mb
1024 Mb RAM
80 Gb HD
1680x1050 LCD

Basically I have one of the new Centrino notebooks. It's a bit outdated by now for sure so I've resorted to tweaking like crazy until I buy a high end laptop in a year. The thing I've found out in the meantime is that the pixel clock fix only works with the max resolution of my moniter. Whenever I attempt to find the right clock rate for the other resolutions I always fail. This is a big problem since most games still don't support all resolutions. In fact, the only game that I can run in fullscreen is HL2 since it supports all widescreen resolutions. I would have to say the pixel clock thing is a very shaky fix and it doesn't work for everyone and only in certain conditions. I'm trying to get the games to run in windowed mode, when I do that there's no graphical distortion. Does anyone know the command line parameter to get a game to run in windowed mode?
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wanted to bump this and keep it alive... anyone have any new news or ideas about this problem? I tried Omega based on CAT 5.12 by the way .... same problem still.
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Old Dec 16, 2005, 06:58 AM   #26
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whatever the problem is, it's definitely the display. how do notebooks interpret their monitor since it's connected directly to the system? i know it has to transfer graphical info some other way than typical monitors. i'm guessing that's where the heart of the problem is. i've been searching on the net and i found some articles that talk about how since laptop screens and systems are so propriety based it causes a great variation in the monitor timings. i guess the catalysts are based on general timing options that old notebooks don't operate on or recognize very well. any ideas on this and how to get around this problem? i've managed to semi-correct the problem with powerstrip until now with the 5.11 and 5.12's. now the drivers only recognize my monitor as 1400x1050 when it's actually 1680x1050 and i have found no way to fix it with powerstrip, so it has something to do with the drivers. what i have noticed though is that my framerates have skyrocketed quite a bit since 5.6 which is why i'd really like a fix for this problem. it seems like a shame to miss out on the performance boost of the omega drivers because of a monitor conflict.
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Old Dec 23, 2005, 11:40 AM   #27
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Having the same problem since 5.7. I am running an HP zt3280us with mobility radeon 9200 64MB.
In some versions my LCD goes blank, but in the newest ones (incl 2.6.87) it just looks scrambled (more or less, depends on the resolution settings. I tried all of them but none works). Funny thing is that until version 5.6 it worked fine, so I assume it has something to do with either the tweaked drivers or for some reason the new catalyst doesn't support mobility 9200. Has no one managed to contact the guy from omegadrivers? I guess he knows better than all of us.
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Old Dec 23, 2005, 08:45 PM   #28
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Hi - having a similar problem - HP Compaq nx7010 Ati Mobility Radeon 9200 (also detected as a 9000 with a 9200 chipset)...

I will also try and contact the Omega driver developer...

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Old Jan 4, 2006, 06:42 AM   #29
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Same here too

HP nx 7010
1024mb ddr ram
60gb hard drive
9200 ati with 64 ram

Happens on my laptop as well. I think the problem is more likely to be HP oriented because from what I read the ati 9200/9000 in other brand laptop computers does not have the same problem.
BTW, Any one tried the Cat 5.13 yet? Or any new fixes for this?
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Old Jan 5, 2006, 07:07 AM   #30
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Compaq/HP nx7010 with Radeon 9200

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I tried to contact the omega guy, but there was no reply. I guess there is so few people still on the radeon 9200 so he and other developers dont really care. Too bad for us
Well, I know at least 3 other users of this computer that all have this computer.
My big monitor works well but since installing the omega driver I cannot use the built in LCD at all! It just keeps blank. Any attached monitor will show up correctly ...

Any help so far?
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