[Visno]

I have lost faith in both of these companies.

[jpinard]

Originally Posted by leethaxor4u

I have the humming next to the cpu that alot of you folks have, It is intermittent and doesnt seem to be reproducable except by (hold your hat on) touching my wood computer desk...yes, im not kidding.. I can lay a towel down or wear a long sleved shirt and touching my desk does not reproduce the hum, touch it with one finger and the humm starts.. (go ahead and laugh) I have removed everything from the desk, and went as far as using a stethascope with a surgical glove over the end of it to listen while my wife touches the desk..it repeats 100% of the time..


I tried a new surge buster and that fixed my issue, seems the amount of power required for the larger crossfire system was to much for the ole surge buster I had..


Regards

WHAT? That's weird/crazy. So what sudge surppressor did you get? Did you have a super crappy generic one before?

[leethaxor4u]

well here goes,

I seem to have fixed the problem, I have played hl2 today for 2 hours with no issues to speak of. I played bf2 for about an hour without issue also.

I was able to achieve stable results in 3dmark05/06 and pcmark05..

I take no credit for this if it works for you as well as it did for me, but this is what Asus tech told me to do.

Uninstall any videocard drivers installed, uninstall any soundcard drivers and also the uli sata drivers.

Reinstall in this EXACT order.

Download and install Directx 9.0c (even if you already have it) the december 05 version
Install chipset drivers (uli sata)
Install the latest Marvell lan drivers from Asus website
Install ANY other drivers
Last install your soundcard drivers

Use driver cleaner to remve any left over files

This made a WORLD of improvment in my system, apparntly Microsoft has contacted Asus about a bug that causes system instablility in 9.0c games, like bf2 and hl2.. They claim that the sp2 version is not 9.0c updated resulting in any hardware installed ontop of it to be unstabil.

Also Microsoft and Asus and ATI claim the #1 system trouble always comes from sound cards, onboard or not.

I followed the directions and it worked very well thus far, you decide if it works for you or not.

Regards

Mike

[leethaxor4u]

Originally Posted by jpinard

WHAT? That's weird/crazy. So what sudge surppressor did you get? Did you have a super crappy generic one before?

Yeah, a wallmart one.. I got one from compusa that had a external ground.

http://www.compusa.com/products/prod...487&pfp=SEARCH

this is the one i got.. fixed that issue right away. havent heard a peep out of it since.

regards

Mike

[jpinard]

Originally Posted by leethaxor4u

Yeah, a wallmart one.. I got one from compusa that had a external ground.

http://www.compusa.com/products/prod...487&pfp=SEARCH

this is the one i got.. fixed that issue right away. havent heard a peep out of it since.

regards

Mike

Hmmm, I have a 600 Watt APC surge-protecting/line condtioning/backup UPS AND a separate surge suppresor as well. Wonder if I shouldn't be using both.

leethaxor4u - I've heard you always need to install your video card drivers last... ALWAYS.

[cuke2u]

Hi, I'd like to know how one can download anything before installing the NIC drivers. Impossible if you've a ADSL Router as I have, :-)
I more or less install XP the same way but with a couple of differences; I have to install the ULi sata drivers whilst I'm installing XP, using F6, I run a raid array. I then install the network drivers so as I can get on the internet. There is no other way I can do this so, if this solution really works, I could never be able to make use of it...
ChrisC

[Knacki99]

Originally Posted by cuke2u

Hi, I'd like to know how one can download anything before installing the NIC drivers. Impossible if you've a ADSL Router as I have, :-)
I more or less install XP the same way but with a couple of differences; I have to install the ULi sata drivers whilst I'm installing XP, using F6, I run a raid array. I then install the network drivers so as I can get on the internet. There is no other way I can do this so, if this solution really works, I could never be able to make use of it...
ChrisC

dl, burn a cd?

[cuke2u]

Errr, read the post again....
ChrisC

[Blinder]

Originally Posted by cuke2u

Errr, read the post again....
ChrisC

I think Knacki99 means you should download all the utils you need prior to formatting - then burn a CD or put them onto a secondary drive - which is what I have done, then when you rebuild - reformat your primary drive - install windows, and then either access the CD you burned previously, or retrieve the drivers from the secondary drive - either way you dont need to install the NIC drivers to get anything - because in true back to the future style - it should already be there

[cuke2u]

Hi, yes however, how am I to install on a raid configuration when the sequence of installation means that the Uli SATA drivers are to be installed after XP, you simply cannot do this. It is impossible as without F6 then the SATA drivers, XP will not see the HD. And the only difference between the floopy F6 drivers and the one that gets installed from the CD after XP, as far as I understand, is that the raid configuration utility is installed....
ChrisC

[Blinder]

Originally Posted by cuke2u

Hi, yes however, how am I to install on a raid configuration when the sequence of installation means that the Uli SATA drivers are to be installed after XP, you simply cannot do this. It is impossible as without F6 then the SATA drivers, XP will not see the HD. And the only difference between the floopy F6 drivers and the one that gets installed from the CD after XP, as far as I understand, is that the raid configuration utility is installed....
ChrisC

In that case i'd go as close to the suggested order as is possible for your configuration - it might tilt the odds in your favour...

[leethaxor4u]

I Have been able to play again today without any issues IN EITHER game. I have suggested this fix to the good folks over at overclockers Uk, However no one there seems willing to give it a try, they are convinced its a bios issue.

Do this then, if you own hl2, pull down your console and change your dx level to 70 (7.0) or 80 (8.0)...... im curious of the problem goes away or not..



Regards

Mike

[cuke2u]

Hi, as I understand it but by reducing the dx level to 7.0 or 8.0 you are forcing the game to run as directx 7 and 8. Which will infact make the game run at reduced detail, therefore giving the illusion that the game has speeded up. See here http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2281 A X1900XT-X should, and can, run smoothly at a much higher level...
ChrisC

[leethaxor4u]

Hi Cuke,


I am not suggesting a perm fix is dropping the level, I am suggesting that it is a dx issue, more over a inproper install of dx. (well proper by the old stand by way of installing)

I was curious to see what would change. Mine is fixed (so far) and I am not going to undo anything to see what the changes would have made.

Regards

[Mudvillager]

Can anyone tell me why I have a humming noise while the CPU is working (20%> usage or something). leethaxor4u's problem doesn't seem to correspond 100% to my problem.

[jpinard]

Originally Posted by Mudvillager

Can anyone tell me why I have a humming noise while the CPU is working (20%> usage or something). leethaxor4u's problem doesn't seem to correspond 100% to my problem.

Is it worse when you scroll your mousewheel on a heavy long webpage?

[MVP33]

Hello: To All Asus A8R32-MVP Deluxe Owners


Here is my experience with one of these boards.

I purchased one of these boards last Friday and received it this Monday.

First I will list my setup:

- AMD Opteron 146 (Stock Ghz is 2.0)
- CPU heatsink is a Thermaltake Polo, Using Artic Silver 5 paste (temps 37C)
- Mobo is of course the Asus A8R32-MVP Deluxe
- 1 x ATI Original X1900XT
- 1 x Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 (OEM Version not a ZS)
- OCZ 2 x 1024 (2GB Kit) Gold Edition EL PC4000 DDR 500
(Stock Timings 3-4-4-8, All Bioses read as 3-4-4-7)
- OCZ 520w Powerstream the newest Model SLI version. what about Crossfire OCZ... it is the same things guys it works no matter. Sparate PCI-E rails 2 of them.
- 1 x Seagate 250GB SATA 2
- 1 x LG DVDROM
- 1 X LG DVDRW (4167B)


Ok now here is my beef:

I am a overclocker and pretty much know what I am doing and have given opinions and suggestions to both ATI and Asus in the past year about the X1900XT and this Motherbroard.

I have to admit they did one heck of a job so far I clap my hands and take my off hat to them for the effort they have put into these products.

Let me first state that I previously owned just before this motherboard a DFI SLI-DR motherboard and it was a Awsome Overclocker, but i will tell you more about this motherboard as I type on.

Ok now for the point of me making tis post in the first place:

I have no (Per Say) real issues with this motherboard as of yet and have been overclocking it and stress it for 2 days now.

The only thing I can state is the Bios 0201 that came with this motherboard v1.03G has not improved what I thought it would.

The problem that many seem not to be able to somewhat understand is the Auto Skew feature and the HTT limitation that has been lifted combined with the Auto Skew is somewhat confused when wanting to Overclock at a 1:1 ratio and then bringing up the HTT and lowering the memory divider to day 183 (yes 183 werid setting) I have never seem a 183 setting, but have seen a 180 setting in mnay boards, but not 183. This I do believe is part of the issue.

Ok my DFI motherboard I was able to overclock my Opteron 146 to (2950mhz) 100% prime95 stable for at least 8hrs beofre I shut it down.

Multiplyer was at 10x
HTT 295
HT 3x
Vcore 1.472, bios had to be set at 1.52v to see 1.472 in Cpu-Z
DDR volts 2.80
Memory timings were set to 3-4-4-6
DDR divider was at 180 (yes 180 very good)
DDR resulted in a mhz of DDR 536 (Stock is DDR 500)
CPU Mhz resulted in 2950mhz

Now out of the box the DFI mobo would not do 9 x 300 the bios just would not do it. So I found Tony a OCZ worker who dabbles in Bios reconfigurations for ceratin DFI motherboards and flashed the bios to the 704-BTA bios for the SLI-DR it was the same bios for the Ultra D made by Tony.

Once flashing I was able to do 9 x 320 Maximum = 2880, of course i never lowered multiplyer any lower as why?

Tony's bios was wonderous had alot of settings in Bios and once setup properly you are rocking. The original Bios is what Tony tweaks out so no need to be scared it not a Beta junky bios.

There was the so called Skew option that had a settings of:

Auto
Enable
Disable

I disabled this as Tony had already pre made th buios to set the last 2 digits of the timing line Example: 3-4-4-6, 12, 16 adn after setting the rest of the numkbers to 03, 02, 03 settings this DFI Puppy Flew the Coup and never came back to ask for more.



Ok now we know what I did on the DFI mobo.

This Asus A8R32-MVP motherboard is a OK motherboard and the Bios is OK, but a little tweaking is needed by Asus.

I was only able to manage 2850mhz Stable with a 133 Divider yes that sucks... DDR 380 remember I have DDR 500 PC4000 sticks and ran NP's at DDR 536 with the DFI motherboard and at a 2950mhz speed on the CPU.

I was only able to manage a 9 x 315 = 2835 on Divder 166, on this Asus motherboard A8R32-MVP deluxe.

This was pretty good, but divider sucked.

Ok so I tried all kinds of different ways to get what I was getting with the DFI motherboard.

Eventually I played in the bios some more and kind of was looking at the Skew settings...boy what a configuration that is. There is no Disable option that really sucks as I wanted to see one so that I can set the last 2 digits myself and not have the Skew try to adjust for its so called Auto settings based upon the system build.

Why this is a problem is the Divider I tried was 183 (Yes the odd ball) as opposed to 180 on the DFI and many other boards out there that have such a setting.

So when I tried to set all to what I was getting on the DFI mobo it would go like this.

600 HTT setting = 3x
10 x 295 HTT
timings 3-4-4-6
Divider 183
Volts had to be set to 1.45 Overvolt to 100mv = 1.53v in CPU-Z

Guess what It booted to desktop and I wne to run 3Dmark 2005 for the 20th time since testing this motherboard 3dmark 2005 errored in not even a minute of running Offset Error.

Yes I installed the lastest DX9 Febuary pack not Dec, but watch out for FEAR install wants to install the Dec one.

So back to my exploration and diagnosis.

I am now at 10 x 2850 yes 100mhx lower then on the DFI board and at a divider 133.yep it sucks, but it runs 100% stable so far.

The darn Skew when going to any other divider still wants control even if you set the settings manually the darn Skew is set to Auto.and when setting to normal the system fails to boot.

So evem if i set to 183 divider it boots, yes and it seems find until trying to run 3dmarks or any major stressing programs. I get errored out or a Reboot occurs.

I have to tell One Thing I was able to run this 2850 setup, 133 divider at 800 HTT = 4x setting and I am doing so right now since last night, right now typing this post.

800 HTT = 4x setting. to do the math calculation it goes like this.

4x Times HTT Buss speed mine is 285 = 1140
Then take 1140 x 2 = 2280 this is 280 over the 2000 HTT bus of the AMD 64 processors.

And in my tinkering I was able to go up to a 2480 HTT buss, this was not 100% stable.

I was able to do 10 x 292, Divider 166, timings 3-4-4-8 (Yes Stock timings not my usual 3-4-4-6) and run a couple of benchmarks, but not 100% stable.

This motherboard is a rocking mobo, we just need Asus to do some cleaning up in Bios.

1. replace diver 183 to 180
2. allow a disable optionfor the Skew setting.

Also on a side note:

I have proven many many times higher HTT is no good if you don't have the GHZ with it.

Higher HTT has no effect on benchmarks. It is only good for certain applications.

Therefore a 9 x 315 = 2835mhz a reduction of 115 mhz of what i can get out of my CPU.

Translation =

3dmark 2005 score at 2950mhz, DDR536, Divider 180 on Dfi mobo = 11694
Video card settings Stock.

3dmark 2005 score at 2850mhz, DDR380, Divider 133 on Asus mobo = 10946
Video card settings Stock.

Now you tell me which is better.

I hope Asus takes a DFI SLI-DR bios and some how in corporates its features into theirs.

[Coolasmoo]

Originally Posted by Mudvillager

Can anyone tell me why I have a humming noise while the CPU is working (20%> usage or something). leethaxor4u's problem doesn't seem to correspond 100% to my problem.

Sounds the same as my problem, a few posts back.

Ive not found any answers yet, although i do know its becoming a common problem

I have no idea if this is fixable though,

[MVP33]

If anyone is getting a humming noise.

Try a format and reinstall

This was an issue I seen on another Asus motherboard A8V mobo PCI-E model. He had a A8V AGP mobo prior to this one and just installed new mobo and booted up without a fresh install.

When scrolling with mouse it was humming.

Person installed a X1600XT Pro card all of a sudden humming was coming out of the case or a slight squealing.

They did a format and reinstall when I advised them to do so.

Then install this way:

First they installed mobo drivers.
Then installed Video Drivers.
Then installed Audigy drivers for sound card, using the creative auto update option, used drivers only not the other creative stuff as they did not need it and that was all that was installed previously.
Then went to windows Update and installed all the critical updates...epress mode

This is usually how I do my installs on any new mobo.

His problem went away.

I know many try and say well it booted on the same OS as the older mobo, but the OS can have issues. Always Always do a fresh format install for any new mobo.

[Mudvillager]

Originally Posted by Coolasmoo

Sounds the same as my problem, a few posts back.

Ive not found any answers yet, although i do know its becoming a common problem

I have no idea if this is fixable though,

Have you been able to locate the source of the noise?

It's really anoying when you don't have any music or such playing - you can hear it loud and clear. This really needs to be fixed.

[Coolasmoo]

Originally Posted by Mudvillager

Have you been able to locate the source of the noise?

It's really anoying when you don't have any music or such playing - you can hear it loud and clear. This really needs to be fixed.

No but you can try something for me if you dont mind.

This gets rid of the annoying motherboard noise for me, but i still get data transfer noise from the Memory.

http://cpu.rightmark.org/products/rmclock.shtml

Run it, open up advanced CPU Settings.

Select ACPI State to Show/Modify

In the drop down box select C1(Halt)

Uncheck CPU low power enable.

This works, but your CPU will run Hot all the time, so its only a temp fix.

Let me know if it helps but only use it for testing.

[Mudvillager]

It did not do it for me. Must I restart my computer for it work?
Oh and I noticed something weird - whenever I move my mouse the CPU usage for the app which is my active window spikes (from 0% to 20-50%!), that can't be normal, can it?

BTW, I have my USB polling frequency set to 500Hz (used nLite).

[Coolasmoo]

Did you press apply when you unchecked the low power box ?

[Mudvillager]

Yup.
I read one of your previous posts and you stated that someone else on DriverHeaven.net had the same problem. Did he try that?

[Coolasmoo]

He is from overclockers.co.uk forums,

I dont think he did, but i can find out.

[Coolasmoo]

Some of the guys on overclockers, are testing a leaked set of Catalyst 6.3

Will keep you all informed if it helps or not while we wait for that mysterious Bios

[Veridian3]

Originally Posted by leethaxor4u

However no one there seems willing to give it a try, they are convinced its a bios issue.
Mike

Thats because Asus have confirmed that the issues most people are experiencing are bios related (and we have verified that). Additionally, throughout my own testing of various configs on this board I have been using the update DirectX and still experienced issues.

[Veridian3]

Originally Posted by Coolasmoo

Some of the guys on overclockers, are testing a leaked set of Catalyst 6.3

Will keep you all informed if it helps or not while we wait for that mysterious Bios

I dont think thats going to make a difference, but i cant say for sure due to NDA's i've signed... just a theory

[Coolasmoo]

Thanks for the reply Veridian3,

Ive passed it on if thats ok with you

[athildja]

Hello, My name is Sean Kalinich,
I am one of the site administrators from www.planetx64.com.
We have also had an issue with this board. stuttering in BF2 HL2 and COD2.
we posted about this and had linked the news post, however that posting is now gone.
Our contact with Asus has been less than stellar, we have as of yet only recieved BIOS Version 0307, this failed to fix any of the problems.
we have also posted an announcement about this on our site.
There is one thing that I have noticed about the current reviews for this board.
they either did not use BF2, HL2 or COD2. or used a pre reorded time demo.
I think this is the reason that some sites show this board as an outstanding performer.
I do believe that Asus will fix this problem and this board will be an amazing board.

Thanks for the information and the updates

Sean