Asus A8R32-MVP Issues

Coolasmoo · Mar 8, 2006, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Veridian3

I dont think thats going to make a difference, but i cant say for sure due to NDA's i've signed... just a theory

You were right Veridian3 they didnt help

Thanks again

***Veridian3*** · Mar 8, 2006, 08:51 PM

Yeah, now that cat 6.3 is out i can officially say it wouldnt work. Hopefully the new bios will be made public soon.

Zardon · Mar 8, 2006, 08:55 PM

I know veridian doesnt like to take credit for anything, but he really has been working his ass off directly with Asus for almost 2 weeks on this guys, while other sites were publishing reviews on the motherboard to get the hits, Veridian told me he had to hold off on publishing as he had to report 3 or 4 issues and wanted our readership to get informed and accurate testing results. He was the first journalist to document the problems in a manner that asus HAD to listen.

In fairness to Asus and ATI, they really have been cooperating with us on this 100%, especially ATI who really have been pressuring Asus to get the issues resolved.

AlexM105 · Mar 8, 2006, 08:58 PM

Thanks a lot guys for your hard work!

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Originally Posted by Zardon

In fairness to Asus and ATI, they really have been cooperating with us on this 100%, especially ATI who really have been pressuring Asus to get the issues resolved.

Hopefully ATi will pressure ASUS to do something with the A8R-MVP as well, since it has ATI's RD480.

athildja · Mar 8, 2006, 08:58 PM

I will also say that ATi has been pressuring Asus to help with this. I believe that Asus will fix this soon too.

Sandok · Mar 8, 2006, 08:59 PM

I must say you guys have been awesome and Veridian, it's just great to see that you actually put off the review to get everything working! Kudos mate!!!

Lord Edmond · Mar 8, 2006, 09:08 PM

Thanks Zardon and Veridian3

for all your work in getting ASUS and ATI to listen ,I also commend you in standing by what you found in your tests and not going along with the masses ( other reviewers) I for one will only trust your reviews in the future, for you have the courage to speak the truth and not speak with forked tongue.

thanks again from all at OcUk forums

hope asus dont sit on there butt for to long on this

cuke2u · Mar 8, 2006, 10:33 PM

Hi, you guys are amazing, thanks and well done!!!!
ChrisC

theonlybabyface · Mar 8, 2006, 11:04 PM

Just let us know when the BIOS is ready. Beta or whatever...I'll take it!!!

Zardon · Mar 8, 2006, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by theonlybabyface

Just let us know when the BIOS is ready. Beta or whatever...I'll take it!!!

You know ive been reading this thread and the huge thread over at OCUK forums (and a few other places), and there is nothing I would like more than to host this bios. It actually makes me feel quite sad that there are so many end customers with this board having problems.

Unfortunately due to legal agreements and relationships this is not possible. Rest assured however we have made Asus aware of the gravity of the situation and that we strongly feel it is in their best interests to get a new bios out (even if it is beta). A beta bios placing the risks in the hands of the end user is better in my opinion than the current mess.

However there really is only so much we can do to push this, but we really hope they do something within the next week.

athildja · Mar 8, 2006, 11:26 PM

Has this BIOS fixed the other issues with this Board? or are some reamining.
Asus sent us the 0033 today and told us they are working on another one that should be ready for release soon.

Sean

***Veridian3*** · Mar 8, 2006, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by athildja

Has this BIOS fixed the other issues with this Board? or are some reamining.
Asus sent us the 0033 today and told us they are working on another one that should be ready for release soon.

Sean

Its fixed all of the issues i was seeing other than the LAN config one. For that i'm having a second board sent out to confirm if it is a hardware issue or not as asus cannot re-create.

AlexM105 · Mar 9, 2006, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Zardon

You know ive been reading this thread and the huge thread over at OCUK forums (and a few other places), and there is nothing I would like more than to host this bios. It actually makes me feel quite sad that there are so many end customers with this board having problems.

For every person having a problem with the A8R32-MVP there are 5 people having problems with the A8R-MVP. The A8R32-MVP is apparently being fixed, thanks to your hard work, but I don't see why ASUS decided to listen to you guys and work on fixing the "high-end" board RIGHT AWAY and completely screw everyone who bought the A8R-MVP.

http://www.ocworkbench.com/ocwb/ulti...pic/44/91.html

Zardon · Mar 9, 2006, 12:21 AM

Yes, as far as I know stuart (veridian3) also mentioned this as well in conversations....

AlexM105 · Mar 9, 2006, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Zardon

Yes, as far as I know stuart (veridian3) also mentioned this as well in conversations....

Thanks a ton for that!

Could you guys please post updates of both boards when they're available, even if this is an A8R32-MVP thread?

Coolasmoo · Mar 9, 2006, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Veridian3

Its fixed all of the issues i was seeing other than the LAN config one. For that i'm having a second board sent out to confirm if it is a hardware issue or not as asus cannot re-create.

Do you know if Asus are aware of the data transfer noise emitting through the board, or is this something that is damaged at hardware level (faulty coil/cap)

There seems to be alot of us with this problem

***Veridian3*** · Mar 9, 2006, 01:05 AM

I think someone mentioned it specifically happened with the Corsair LED sticks? If so i'll borrow some and try it to see if i can recreate.

theonlybabyface · Mar 9, 2006, 01:20 AM

I have no issues with the squealing that some have reported but I'm running OCZ Plat r2's..

athildja · Mar 9, 2006, 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veridian3

Its fixed all of the issues i was seeing other than the LAN config one. For that i'm having a second board sent out to confirm if it is a hardware issue or not as asus cannot re-create.

When I first had an issue Asus sent me a 2nd board. niether had any issues with the either LAN port.
I have only had issues with PCmark05, BF2, HL2,and COD2. I did not run quake4. Fear works, however the frame rate would constantly go from around 32 to 999 during game play.

then once the "stuttering started you could even see it in HDD tests when running HDTach.

I will be testing with the new BIOS tonight. I will PM you with the results if you would like

Sean

***Veridian3*** · Mar 9, 2006, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by athildja

When I first had an issue Asus sent me a 2nd board. niether had any issues with the either LAN port.
I have only had issues with PCmark05, BF2, HL2,and COD2. I did not run quake4. Fear works, however the frame rate would constantly go from around 32 to 999 during game play.

then once the "stuttering started you could even see it in HDD tests when running HDTach.

I will be testing with the new BIOS tonight. I will PM you with the results if you would like

Sean

Just post in here, i'm sure everyone would be interested to see your findings. Hopefully, 0033 will fix the issues you have like it did for me.

athildja · Mar 9, 2006, 02:12 AM

OK I will post here once I get the original configuration set up and running.

kuhly · Mar 9, 2006, 02:18 AM

Can someone who has the new driver please send it to me to try? I'm dying a low painful death here.

athildja · Mar 9, 2006, 02:42 AM

I just want to say that I am under the same restrictions on releasing this BIOS as Driverheaven is.
I cannot send it to anyone.
I do believe that Asus will be releasing this soon though.

Sean

athildja · Mar 9, 2006, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veridian3

I think someone mentioned it specifically happened with the Corsair LED sticks? If so i'll borrow some and try it to see if i can recreate.

I have heard the high pitched noise with Geil One RAM and Kingston HyperX. using Corsair XMS Pro I did not.

it was not loud enough to be a concern to me though.
However, come to think of it, the noise did seem to start about when the stuttering would start.

either way I will see if the 2 are llinked at all and post back here.

jpinard · Mar 9, 2006, 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coolasmoo

Do you know if Asus are aware of the data transfer noise emitting through the board, or is this something that is damaged at hardware level (faulty coil/cap)

There seems to be alot of us with this problem

Sadly this is a terrible issue on the Asus A8R-MVP as well. Sometimes I think it's either the low quality of the capacitors/coils, or the fact these utilize only 1-3 phase power design.

What's so troubling about this whole ordeal, is the tremendous amount of people who had/have trouble with the Asus A8R-MVP too, and it seems Asus did not learn from their recent mistakes. What's equally bad, is the general disdain Asus shows for us individual end-users. Most times they act like we're asking for a kidney instead of asking for help... and often times just appear to ignore ever present issues (BIOS update for A8R-MVP?)...

I wish there was one good motherboard company that was dedicated to the performance tweakers, with an excellent cross-ship RMA policy, good (polite/patient tech support), and didn't appear to abandon their users. I've hoped for a long time Asus would become that company...

Zardon - thanks for your earlier post. You're a good man. All of you are good people. WIsh everyone luck with their A8R32. I sure hope they can get performance and stability up to where it could be.

athildja · Mar 9, 2006, 03:59 AM

Ok I can confirm that my Battle Field 2 and HalfLife 2 problems are corrected with this BIOS.
before the stuttering started after only 10 minutes of play. I have tested the system for a little over an Hour now with out issue in either of those games.
I will test Call of Duty 2 and PCMark 05 in a minute and report back here

kuhly · Mar 9, 2006, 04:00 AM

Well, thanks for all of your efforts. Hope this new bios version is made available soon or else RMA for me.

Thanks alot!

Bingo13 · Mar 9, 2006, 04:26 AM

Asus will be releasing the "fixed" bios as version 0311 on their website shortly. Besides the personnel here there were several other people working directly with Asus on these issues, issues due to driver conflicts, hardware combinations, and of course bios issues. However, the initial bios delivered on the pre-release boards did not have several of the issues reported which is why some of the review sites did not see these issues in testing.

athildja · Mar 9, 2006, 04:52 AM

PCMark05 and a RAM Slot issue is also corrected. HDD tests are what they should be now also

Looks like this is going to fix the issues that we had with this board.
As Bingo13 mentioned the new BIOS should be out soon on Asus' website.

Bingo, the original BIOS version that was on my board was 0201 I flashed foward to 0307 then back to 0118 after the NDA lifted. none of those fixed the issue. the latest one 0033 has. I noticed that many sites were using timedemo benches and not in game testing. but I cannot say that about all of them.

***Veridian3*** · Mar 9, 2006, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Bingo13

However, the initial bios delivered on the pre-release boards did not have several of the issues reported which is why some of the review sites did not see these issues in testing.

I've used every bios that was available and i agree with Sean, each one did have the issues reported (or at least the most serious ones such as Sandra, PCMark and game stuttering/HD issues).

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theonlybabyface GO CANUCKS GO!!! Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 129 Rep Power: 0	I have no issues with the squealing that some have reported but I'm running OCZ Plat r2's.. __________________ [COLOR=Silver]MY MACHINE : Intel Q6600 \| ASUS Maximus Formula \| 4 x 1GB Team Xtreem DDR2-800 \| EVGA 8800GTS "G92" \| X-Fi Platinum \| Enermax Infiniti 720 \| Samsung 224BW KIDS MACHINE : Intel Xeon 3060 \| Intel BadaXe2 \| 2 x 1GB Kingston DDR2-667 \| BFG 8800GT OC \| Audigy 2 ZS \| OCZ GameXStream 850 \| [/COLOR][COLOR=Silver]Samsung 204B[/COLOR] [COLOR=dimgray][COLOR=Silver] [/COLOR][COLOR=Silver] [/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=dimgray][COLOR=Silver] [/COLOR][/COLOR]

Mar 9, 2006, 04:26 AM	#88
Bingo13 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Swedish Moon Base Posts: 9 Rep Power: 0	Asus will be releasing the "fixed" bios as version 0311 on their website shortly. Besides the personnel here there were several other people working directly with Asus on these issues, issues due to driver conflicts, hardware combinations, and of course bios issues. However, the initial bios delivered on the pre-release boards did not have several of the issues reported which is why some of the review sites did not see these issues in testing. Last edited by Bingo13; Mar 9, 2006 at 04:36 AM.

Mar 8, 2006, 08:51 PM	Thread Starter #62
*Veridian3* Administrator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cloaked Posts: 4,837 Rep Power: 174	Yeah, now that cat 6.3 is out i can officially say it wouldnt work. Hopefully the new bios will be made public soon.

Mar 8, 2006, 08:55 PM	#63
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 177	I know veridian doesnt like to take credit for anything, but he really has been working his ass off directly with Asus for almost 2 weeks on this guys, while other sites were publishing reviews on the motherboard to get the hits, Veridian told me he had to hold off on publishing as he had to report 3 or 4 issues and wanted our readership to get informed and accurate testing results. He was the first journalist to document the problems in a manner that asus HAD to listen. In fairness to Asus and ATI, they really have been cooperating with us on this 100%, especially ATI who really have been pressuring Asus to get the issues resolved.

Mar 8, 2006, 08:58 PM	#65
athildja DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 18 Rep Power: 0	I will also say that ATi has been pressuring Asus to help with this. I believe that Asus will fix this soon too.

Mar 8, 2006, 08:59 PM	#66
Sandok DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,472 Rep Power: 66	I must say you guys have been awesome and Veridian, it's just great to see that you actually put off the review to get everything working! Kudos mate!!!

Mar 8, 2006, 09:08 PM	#67
Lord Edmond DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0	Thanks Zardon and Veridian3 for all your work in getting ASUS and ATI to listen ,I also commend you in standing by what you found in your tests and not going along with the masses ( other reviewers) I for one will only trust your reviews in the future, for you have the courage to speak the truth and not speak with forked tongue. thanks again from all at OcUk forums hope asus dont sit on there butt for to long on this

Mar 8, 2006, 10:33 PM	#68
cuke2u DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 75 Rep Power: 0	Hi, you guys are amazing, thanks and well done!!!! ChrisC

Mar 8, 2006, 11:26 PM	#71
athildja DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 18 Rep Power: 0	Has this BIOS fixed the other issues with this Board? or are some reamining. Asus sent us the 0033 today and told us they are working on another one that should be ready for release soon. Sean

Mar 9, 2006, 12:21 AM	#74
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 177	Yes, as far as I know stuart (veridian3) also mentioned this as well in conversations....

Mar 9, 2006, 01:05 AM	Thread Starter #77
*Veridian3* Administrator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cloaked Posts: 4,837 Rep Power: 174	I think someone mentioned it specifically happened with the Corsair LED sticks? If so i'll borrow some and try it to see if i can recreate.

Mar 9, 2006, 02:12 AM	#81
athildja DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 18 Rep Power: 0	OK I will post here once I get the original configuration set up and running.

Mar 9, 2006, 02:18 AM	#82
kuhly DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Can someone who has the new driver please send it to me to try? I'm dying a low painful death here.

Mar 9, 2006, 02:42 AM	#83
athildja DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 18 Rep Power: 0	I just want to say that I am under the same restrictions on releasing this BIOS as Driverheaven is. I cannot send it to anyone. I do believe that Asus will be releasing this soon though. Sean

Mar 9, 2006, 03:59 AM	#86
athildja DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 18 Rep Power: 0	Ok I can confirm that my Battle Field 2 and HalfLife 2 problems are corrected with this BIOS. before the stuttering started after only 10 minutes of play. I have tested the system for a little over an Hour now with out issue in either of those games. I will test Call of Duty 2 and PCMark 05 in a minute and report back here

Mar 9, 2006, 04:00 AM	#87
kuhly DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Well, thanks for all of your efforts. Hope this new bios version is made available soon or else RMA for me. Thanks alot!

Mar 9, 2006, 04:52 AM	#89
athildja DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 18 Rep Power: 0	PCMark05 and a RAM Slot issue is also corrected. HDD tests are what they should be now also Looks like this is going to fix the issues that we had with this board. As Bingo13 mentioned the new BIOS should be out soon on Asus' website. Bingo, the original BIOS version that was on my board was 0201 I flashed foward to 0307 then back to 0118 after the NDA lifted. none of those fixed the issue. the latest one 0033 has. I noticed that many sites were using timedemo benches and not in game testing. but I cannot say that about all of them.