[csimon]

Originally Posted by Takumi

Hi everyone

anyone know if an official BIOS has been released yet? I been scanning Asus.com since DH made the announcement that an official BIOS release was imminent, but no luck.

As concerns the A8R-MVP, I wont hold my breath on a fix from Asus. The A8R32-MVP deluxe is the new beachhead. Asus is probably wishing everyone with A8R-MVP problems would just disappear. Then again, if enough people moan, something may happen.
But at stock values, the bad is not bad at all. Just that crazy vcore is abit nutty, and the fact that the Vreg circuitry is quite weak. I installed the SP dualcore patch for my 4400+ and the board blew. ALmost thought I had lost my 1900XTX and CPU at the same time.

I too would like to see a bios update to fix issues concerning the A8R-MVP ...if I go away from anything it will be Asus and Ati. I'd like to see something done about the vcore issue and the 1t ram issue. It would also be helpful if something were done about the usb and audio issues as well although I don't know if the bios has anything to do with that.

My thinking is that if Asus leaves us high and dry on the A8R fixes ...don't you think they might do the same to you? Especially with AM2 right around the corner ...A8R32 won't be kingpin for long.

[Coolasmoo]

Just want to say a big thanks to everybody involved in this fiasco

Veridian3, and Zardon i will be greatfull to you guys for a long long time.

Ive left a note in my sig over at OcUk to show you guys of my appreciation of all the time and effort you have put in.


Hell, i might even buy your Drivercleaner Pro

[cuke2u]

Hey, I said that without opening my mouth :-)
ChrisC

[AlexM105]

Originally Posted by Veridian3

What i'd now like to do is concentrate on the A8R-MVP issues that you guys have been talking about. Can i ask anyone with A8R-MVP issues to send me a PM with the subject line "A8R-MVP" and a very short one line explanation of what the problem is. I will then gather all the feedback and contact Asus. I may well make a similar post to this one so we can track the issues to resolution and ensure that everyone is aware of the process.

Thanks all.

I just sent you a PM. It's a bit longer than a "very short one line explanation." I tried to give you as much info as I could to help you when talking to ASUS. Thanks again for this.

[tzorge]

I would also like to see the vcore issue dealt with
had some issues with this board.

[0079]

Originally Posted by tzorge

I would also like to see the vcore issue dealt with
had some issues with this board.

Same here...

And again, a I said in pm, Veridian - big thanks for your effort on this!

[AlexM105]

Make sure you guys all PM him. I also told him about the Vcore and 1T issues.

[knights_03]

Wow - 6000 + views If Asus isn't taking this serious - I don't know what would move them to action!!

[AlexM105]

Any updates on the A8R-MVP?

[csimon]

Originally Posted by AlexM105

Any updates on the A8R-MVP?

Asus doesn't work on this bios during the week what makes you think they'll get it done over the weekend??? j/k

[The_Neon_Cowboy]

Originally Posted by csimon

I too would like to see a bios update to fix issues concerning the A8R-MVP ...if I go away from anything it will be Asus and Ati. I'd like to see something done about the vcore issue and the 1t ram issue. It would also be helpful if something were done about the usb and audio issues as well although I don't know if the bios has anything to do with that.

My thinking is that if Asus leaves us high and dry on the A8R fixes ...don't you think they might do the same to you? Especially with AM2 right around the corner ...A8R32 won't be kingpin for long.

Well as I set here on a A8R-MVP with my ram @ 1T , I'm going 1T issue?
Though others have had issues... I've yet to see that one (Useing bios 402)

But I agree Asus has been "the suck" as compaired to the review boards
and bios the shipping boards are nuterd. Basically the review board rock
the shipping boards and bis feel nuterd...

I been waiting for socket M2 but ws pondering upgradeing to A8R32 mvp

[AlexM105]

Consider yourself lucky if you can run your RAM at 1T!

[Highperf15]

Let me ask this.......is there a specific thread for the issues regarding the A8R-MVP problems or is this the only thread dealing with the mobo issues?

[AlexM105]

Originally Posted by Highperf15

Let me ask this.......is there a specific thread for the issues regarding the A8R-MVP problems or is this the only thread dealing with the mobo issues?

Veridian3 said he might make another thread like this one specifically for the A8R-MVP.

Are you having problems with the board too?

[csimon]

I run at 1t as well ...but I also run 240x11 1:1 and the issue doesn't occur (for me) until I go to 260x10.

[AlexM105]

Originally Posted by csimon

I run at 1t as well ...but I also run 240x11 1:1 and the issue doesn't occur (for me) until I go to 260x10.

I can't run 1T at all, not even stock or underclocked!

[Takumi]

No problem for me either to run mem at 1T. but I have another issue. It would appear my USB ports tend to hibernate, but only with certain devices, viz Razor Copperhead mouse (with latest firmware) and a Netgear USB Wifi stick. I have to keep unpluggin and replugging it in. Anyone else with the same problem? My Cheapo Saitek USB k/b, strangely enough, does not suffer from the same problem.

Sometimes, if I reboot, the mouse stays recognized, otherwise, it the usual unplug-replug story.

[jpinard]

Originally Posted by Takumi

No problem for me either to run mem at 1T. but I have another issue. It would appear my USB ports tend to hibernate, but only with certain devices, viz Razor Copperhead mouse (with latest firmware) and a Netgear USB Wifi stick. I have to keep unpluggin and replugging it in. Anyone else with the same problem? My Cheapo Saitek USB k/b, strangely enough, does not suffer from the same problem.

Sometimes, if I reboot, the mouse stays recognized, otherwise, it the usual unplug-replug story.

Yes I have that same problem.

[Highperf15]

Has there been ANY feedback from Asus regarding a BIOS revsion for the A8R-MVP or is this one of those "hopeless, throw in the trash" boards???

[AlexM105]

Originally Posted by Highperf15

Has there been ANY feedback from Asus regarding a BIOS revsion for the A8R-MVP or is this one of those "hopeless, throw in the trash" boards???

ASUS hasn't said anything... They're just counting our money. There have been plenty of threads complaining at their own forums and sites all over the internet, but still nothing...

The thing that really pisses me off is that they fixed their "high-end" board right away!

[Highperf15]

Originally Posted by AlexM105

ASUS hasn't said anything... They're just counting our money. There have been plenty of threads complaining at their own forums and sites all over the internet, but still nothing...

The thing that really pisses me off is that they fixed their "high-end" board right away!

Hmmmmm..............That sounds like something a "Third-tier" motherboard manufacturer would do......NOT a "First-Tier" manufacturer.

[AlexM105]

I could think of a few other names to call them...

[jpinard]

Originally Posted by AlexM105

ASUS hasn't said anything... They're just counting our money. There have been plenty of threads complaining at their own forums and sites all over the internet, but still nothing...

The thing that really pisses me off is that they fixed their "high-end" board right away!

I am very upset with them too. I e-mailed their tech support several times with all the documentation necessary over the last 2 weeks. No response. Not a single response...

[Highperf15]

Originally Posted by jpinard

I am very upset with them too. I e-mailed their tech support several times with all the documentation necessary over the last 2 weeks. No response. Not a single response...

Let me ask this.......Has anyone contacted ATI to possibly get them involved? After all, it is their chipset that is indirectly involved.........

[jpinard]

Originally Posted by Highperf15

Let me ask this.......Has anyone contacted ATI to possibly get them involved? After all, it is their chipset that is indirectly involved.........

Yes I'v contacted Asus and ATI on both ends. I've spoke with the engineering departments of ATI and they've exressly stated it's motherboard issue Asus has to fix with a BIOS update. I have heard NOTHHNG from ASUS. NOt even a peep from one of their angry phone tech reps. ATI engineering works with me, and Asus doesn't bother to read their tech support logs or e-mails. Gee, who do you think is dropping the ball?

[AlexM105]

Originally Posted by Highperf15

Let me ask this.......Has anyone contacted ATI to possibly get them involved? After all, it is their chipset that is indirectly involved.........

Wrong. ATi has nothing to do with Vcore and 1T memory issues... It's all ASUS!

[360_Rog]

Hi Guys,

I've been struggling for over two months now with random freezing on my A8R-MVP. I've tried everything, including removing hardware scientifically one piece at a time, running burn-in tests, even completely rebuilding the system twice, and reinstalling windows enough times that I had to call Microsoft to allow myself to re-register my copy of XP (I didn't know that there's a limit to the number of times you can install it now!!). This amount of time and money I have lost doing this has easily quadrupled what the mobo was worth! I don't overclock, I just need a fast, stable, reliable system for my business.

I was so relieved to find this thread on DH confirming that my first instinct - bad mobo - was supported by so many others. The tech support guy I talked to at Asus seemed to think it was my power supply. To be sure, I replaced my OCZ Modstream 520 with a Liberty 620. Nope. The Asus guy also said that he wouldn't deny me exchanging my board if I wanted. I just want a crossfire board that works...reliably. My PIII/450 Windows 2000 box has been running constantly since 1998 with an Asus mobo (Win 98 at that time, obviously). Reliable and rock solid from then til now. It has maybe crashed five times in its lifetime...even then, only because I was pushing it too hard. This thing has crashed five times within the past three days.

Now I'm not sure what to do. I've been an Asus / ATI customer for a many years now, and I've been generally pleased with their products. I am a little leery of replacing my A8R-MVP with another one, and even hesitant to replace it with the A8R32 Deluxe. They both sound like buggy designs that were released before they were ready. Is the A8R32 seriously bug free now with this new BIOS?? I'm not sure how much more I can handle crashing at least once every day.

I am thinking of going for the DFI LanParty UT CFX3200 because hopefully DFI worked out the major bugs before coming to market, I like the PCI/PCIe slot layout better, and there are two more fan headers, etc. So currently, it's between the Asus A8R32 Deluxe and the DFI.

I also heard a rumor that ATI isn't going to be coming out with the Crossfire version of the x1800XT and that they were going to be making an announcement about how users will be able to simply run two of them without the cable on a mobo with the xPress 3200 chipset (this made me feel even more shafted with the A8R-MVP).

I've been building computers for a long time, and I've NEVER had one I've built have such a goofy problem like this...ever. Hopefully Asus will address this by either a new BIOS, or "refunding" our investments by allowing us to at least trade-up to the A8R32 at cost.

Ooh lookie there...there's my PC Probe II alarm going off again: VCore 1.16V! Wow. A miracle I made it through this post (and you too! Thanks for reading this novel!!). Any thoughts on the stability of the A8R32 Deluxe Vs the DFI UT CFX3200 would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Rog

[athildja]

OK there have been a few (very few) comments about the A8R and power.
it would seem that many people are "fixing" the issues with the A8R by getting a good sigle rail PSU.
you may want to give that a try.

[jpinard]

Originally Posted by 360_Rog

Hi Guys,

I've been struggling for over two months now with random freezing on my A8R-MVP. I've tried everything, including removing hardware scientifically one piece at a time, running burn-in tests, even completely rebuilding the system twice, and reinstalling windows enough times that I had to call Microsoft to allow myself to re-register my copy of XP (I didn't know that there's a limit to the number of times you can install it now!!). This amount of time and money I have lost doing this has easily quadrupled what the mobo was worth! I don't overclock, I just need a fast, stable, reliable system for my business.

I was so relieved to find this thread on DH confirming that my first instinct - bad mobo - was supported by so many others. The tech support guy I talked to at Asus seemed to think it was my power supply. To be sure, I replaced my OCZ Modstream 520 with a Liberty 620. Nope. The Asus guy also said that he wouldn't deny me exchanging my board if I wanted. I just want a crossfire board that works...reliably. My PIII/450 Windows 2000 box has been running constantly since 1998 with an Asus mobo (Win 98 at that time, obviously). Reliable and rock solid from then til now. It has maybe crashed five times in its lifetime...even then, only because I was pushing it too hard. This thing has crashed five times within the past three days.

Now I'm not sure what to do. I've been an Asus / ATI customer for a many years now, and I've been generally pleased with their products. I am a little leery of replacing my A8R-MVP with another one, and even hesitant to replace it with the A8R32 Deluxe. They both sound like buggy designs that were released before they were ready. Is the A8R32 seriously bug free now with this new BIOS?? I'm not sure how much more I can handle crashing at least once every day.

I am thinking of going for the DFI LanParty UT CFX3200 because hopefully DFI worked out the major bugs before coming to market, I like the PCI/PCIe slot layout better, and there are two more fan headers, etc. So currently, it's between the Asus A8R32 Deluxe and the DFI.

I also heard a rumor that ATI isn't going to be coming out with the Crossfire version of the x1800XT and that they were going to be making an announcement about how users will be able to simply run two of them without the cable on a mobo with the xPress 3200 chipset (this made me feel even more shafted with the A8R-MVP).

I've been building computers for a long time, and I've NEVER had one I've built have such a goofy problem like this...ever. Hopefully Asus will address this by either a new BIOS, or "refunding" our investments by allowing us to at least trade-up to the A8R32 at cost.

Ooh lookie there...there's my PC Probe II alarm going off again: VCore 1.16V! Wow. A miracle I made it through this post (and you too! Thanks for reading this novel!!). Any thoughts on the stability of the A8R32 Deluxe Vs the DFI UT CFX3200 would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Rog

It's nice to know I'm not alone

athildja - the single rail fix is only applicable if you're running dual cards in Crossfire mode, but also it doens't have to be single rail. ATI has a list of certified PSU's that are guaranteed to work in Crossfire mode. Mine is the Fortron FX600 - a highly efficient 600 Watt PSU with 4 rails providing a combined 60 amps on the 12V.

[fryspeak]

Originally Posted by 360_Rog

Hi Guys,

I've been struggling for over two months now with random freezing on my A8R-MVP. I've tried everything, including removing hardware scientifically one piece at a time, running burn-in tests, even completely rebuilding the system twice, and reinstalling windows enough times that I had to call Microsoft to allow myself to re-register my copy of XP (I didn't know that there's a limit to the number of times you can install it now!!). This amount of time and money I have lost doing this has easily quadrupled what the mobo was worth! I don't overclock, I just need a fast, stable, reliable system for my business.

I was so relieved to find this thread on DH confirming that my first instinct - bad mobo - was supported by so many others. The tech support guy I talked to at Asus seemed to think it was my power supply. To be sure, I replaced my OCZ Modstream 520 with a Liberty 620. Nope. The Asus guy also said that he wouldn't deny me exchanging my board if I wanted. I just want a crossfire board that works...reliably. My PIII/450 Windows 2000 box has been running constantly since 1998 with an Asus mobo (Win 98 at that time, obviously). Reliable and rock solid from then til now. It has maybe crashed five times in its lifetime...even then, only because I was pushing it too hard. This thing has crashed five times within the past three days.

Now I'm not sure what to do. I've been an Asus / ATI customer for a many years now, and I've been generally pleased with their products. I am a little leery of replacing my A8R-MVP with another one, and even hesitant to replace it with the A8R32 Deluxe. They both sound like buggy designs that were released before they were ready. Is the A8R32 seriously bug free now with this new BIOS?? I'm not sure how much more I can handle crashing at least once every day.

I am thinking of going for the DFI LanParty UT CFX3200 because hopefully DFI worked out the major bugs before coming to market, I like the PCI/PCIe slot layout better, and there are two more fan headers, etc. So currently, it's between the Asus A8R32 Deluxe and the DFI.

I also heard a rumor that ATI isn't going to be coming out with the Crossfire version of the x1800XT and that they were going to be making an announcement about how users will be able to simply run two of them without the cable on a mobo with the xPress 3200 chipset (this made me feel even more shafted with the A8R-MVP).

I've been building computers for a long time, and I've NEVER had one I've built have such a goofy problem like this...ever. Hopefully Asus will address this by either a new BIOS, or "refunding" our investments by allowing us to at least trade-up to the A8R32 at cost.

Ooh lookie there...there's my PC Probe II alarm going off again: VCore 1.16V! Wow. A miracle I made it through this post (and you too! Thanks for reading this novel!!). Any thoughts on the stability of the A8R32 Deluxe Vs the DFI UT CFX3200 would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Rog

You wouldn't by any chance have Cool & Quiet enabled in the BIOS would you? With Cool & Quiet enabled and my system isn't under load, my 4400+ speed drops to 992 MHz and 1.16V Vcore. Under load, it increases to 2.2 GHz and 1.36 ~ 1.40V Vcore. If I disable Cool & Quiet, my speed stays steady at 2.2 GHz and the same Vcore (1.36 ~ 1.40 V).

I haven't had any serious issues with my mobo, but I don't overclock, either. Just wanted a good Crossfire board. Worries me a little reading about all the issues with the A8R-MVP whether it's going to work for me long term or not.

Any word on getting a new bios for the A8R-MVP? Could we get Power On By USB Keyboard by any chance?