[jpinard]

I can't speak for him, but for myself - I have CnQ disabled in the BIos and I NEVER install the software.

[Highperf15]

Originally Posted by jpinard

I can't speak for him, but for myself - I have CnQ disabled in the BIos and I NEVER install the software.

I was noticing your specs..........your able to run your system with 1T timings?

[0079]

Have you been in contact with ASUS or heard anything?

Originally Posted by Veridian3

What i'd now like to do is concentrate on the A8R-MVP issues that you guys have been talking about. Can i ask anyone with A8R-MVP issues to send me a PM with the subject line "A8R-MVP" and a very short one line explanation of what the problem is. I will then gather all the feedback and contact Asus. I may well make a similar post to this one so we can track the issues to resolution and ensure that everyone is aware of the process.

Thanks all.

[tzorge]

Hi as this is my second post kindly show some understanding if I have posted in the wrong area.
I have the a8r-mvp I run it in crossfire mode with 2xX1800xt 512 mb. A 700w PSU provides my power, I overclocked my opty 170 0541RPMW to 2.5 with 1.4 v. My main issue (as there are others) is that when I play games, intermittently, I see green squares, in a chequered pattern, this looks like the static you get with a bad TV signal. I wanted to get a screenshot, however printscrn didn’t show this chequered pattern, I got a normal pic. Anyone who knows what this is or has had similar issues and can advise would be much appreciated.

[Takumi]

Originally Posted by 360_Rog

Hi Guys,

I've been struggling for over two months now with random freezing on my A8R-MVP. I've tried everything, including removing hardware scientifically one piece at a time, running burn-in tests, even completely rebuilding the system twice, and reinstalling windows enough times that I had to call Microsoft to allow myself to re-register my copy of XP (I didn't know that there's a limit to the number of times you can install it now!!). This amount of time and money I have lost doing this has easily quadrupled what the mobo was worth! I don't overclock, I just need a fast, stable, reliable system for my business.

I was so relieved to find this thread on DH confirming that my first instinct - bad mobo - was supported by so many others. The tech support guy I talked to at Asus seemed to think it was my power supply. To be sure, I replaced my OCZ Modstream 520 with a Liberty 620. Nope. The Asus guy also said that he wouldn't deny me exchanging my board if I wanted. I just want a crossfire board that works...reliably. My PIII/450 Windows 2000 box has been running constantly since 1998 with an Asus mobo (Win 98 at that time, obviously). Reliable and rock solid from then til now. It has maybe crashed five times in its lifetime...even then, only because I was pushing it too hard. This thing has crashed five times within the past three days.

Now I'm not sure what to do. I've been an Asus / ATI customer for a many years now, and I've been generally pleased with their products. I am a little leery of replacing my A8R-MVP with another one, and even hesitant to replace it with the A8R32 Deluxe. They both sound like buggy designs that were released before they were ready. Is the A8R32 seriously bug free now with this new BIOS?? I'm not sure how much more I can handle crashing at least once every day.

I am thinking of going for the DFI LanParty UT CFX3200 because hopefully DFI worked out the major bugs before coming to market, I like the PCI/PCIe slot layout better, and there are two more fan headers, etc. So currently, it's between the Asus A8R32 Deluxe and the DFI.

I also heard a rumor that ATI isn't going to be coming out with the Crossfire version of the x1800XT and that they were going to be making an announcement about how users will be able to simply run two of them without the cable on a mobo with the xPress 3200 chipset (this made me feel even more shafted with the A8R-MVP).

I've been building computers for a long time, and I've NEVER had one I've built have such a goofy problem like this...ever. Hopefully Asus will address this by either a new BIOS, or "refunding" our investments by allowing us to at least trade-up to the A8R32 at cost.

Ooh lookie there...there's my PC Probe II alarm going off again: VCore 1.16V! Wow. A miracle I made it through this post (and you too! Thanks for reading this novel!!). Any thoughts on the stability of the A8R32 Deluxe Vs the DFI UT CFX3200 would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Rog

I would get the A8R32-MVP Deluxe if I were you. The Vreg circuitry on the A8R-MVP is not robust enough to even handle an X2 4400+ Trust me, I know. The RMA of the A8R is the reason I bought the A8R32. The RD580 is a very nice board IF the BIOS is up to scratch. So far, after having installed the new 0311 BIOS, i havent had any major problems. Only minor problem I have is what appears to be hibernation on USB with certain USB devices after reboot or at startup. A weird problem cos my cheapo USB k/b works just fine at all times.

I believe there is too much variation in performance in the A8R to inspire confidence, especially after it was blatantly obvious that there was some cherrry picking going on in terms of the review boards. I've read great reviews, and I've read horror stories. If you have a bum board, you've got a bum board. No amount of device swopping and false hopes is going to change the fact that there is a problem with some of the boards. I believe most of the problems reside in the BIOS and the Vreg circuitry. A BIOS update would make our lives easier, but that damned Vreg circuitry.. Your only saving grace if are an overclocker is to do the Vcore hard-mod. Once my board gets RMA'd, i am gonna give her some Vcore treatment.

The A8R was intended to be low cost board, but Asus treating us like low-class vagabonds is just not on. Well, I've succumbed and bought their deluxe version. But just because it everything the A8R shold have been, doesnt mean they must leave 1000's of A8R owners high and dry.. and quite abit out of pocket...

[360_Rog]

Originally Posted by 360_Rog

Hi Guys,

I've been struggling for over two months now with random freezing on my A8R-MVP.

Thanks for your replies everyone.

Fryspeak and Jpinard: yes, I am running Q-Fan and have the Cool n Quiet software installed. I will try turning all that stuff off and uninstalling it and see if the system is any more stable. I shouldn't have to go down this road , but at this point I'll try anything as all the local shops are sold out of A8R32s and the DFI RD580s aren't in stock yet. Makes me mad that the thing was supposedly designed to allow Cool n Quiet. Argh!! I have read other reviews of people having no problems at all with this board with CnQ. My first clue that something was screwy with this board was back when it started screaming "CPU FAN ERROR" on boot, even when the fan connector was securely attached to its header.

Takumi: we have a number of the same system specs. Did you have the same problems as me before you rma'd your A8R MVP and got the A8R32? The other problem I have is that the thing hardly ever comes out of "minimal power management" standby correctly (I can only presume that it hung sometime during the night).

I have the same power supply as you, AMD X2 4400+, same RAM as you, same sound card as you, 2 x SAMSUNG 930BFs, 2 x Maxtor 300 GB HDDs, 1 x WD 200 GB, 2 x LG DVD RAMs.

So you think the A8R-32 is the way to go, then Takumi? It solved all your problems? I don't overclock, I just need a stable board that does everything it's supposed to do the way it's supposed to do it.

YAY! The store just called and they said that they now have two A8R32 Deluxe boards in stock! I'll wait to hear back before buying.

Rog

[sweet_punx]

Hi sir!I really need your help!Im assembling my 1st pc with the a8r32 mvp.I would like to ask if you can give me a guide on configuring this mobo including on windows installation,which ones to disable/enable on the bios and which drivers need to be installed.Im a noob and i want to learn how to do all of this.Pls help me sir!Tnx a lot!Btw here are my specs:amd x2 3800,a8r32 mvp,ati x1600xt,corsair xms cas2 2x512,wd 250gb sata2 16mb

[Takumi]

Originally Posted by 360_Rog

Thanks for your replies everyone.

Takumi: we have a number of the same system specs. Did you have the same problems as me before you rma'd your A8R MVP and got the A8R32? The other problem I have is that the thing hardly ever comes out of "minimal power management" standby correctly (I can only presume that it hung sometime during the night).

I have the same power supply as you, AMD X2 4400+, same RAM as you, same sound card as you, 2 x SAMSUNG 930BFs, 2 x Maxtor 300 GB HDDs, 1 x WD 200 GB, 2 x LG DVD RAMs.

So you think the A8R-32 is the way to go, then Takumi? It solved all your problems? I don't overclock, I just need a stable board that does everything it's supposed to do the way it's supposed to do it.

YAY! The store just called and they said that they now have two A8R32 Deluxe boards in stock! I'll wait to hear back before buying.

Rog

I just have 2 minor issues with the A8R32 at the moment;
* some usb devices are not recognized after a cold boot or a reboot. I have to unplug replugto get them to work again. It abit weird cos my cheapo Saitek test keyboard runs fine all the time. Weird one that. I fiddled with the USB hub Power Management Setup in Control Panel is the usually the culprit, but no joy yet. This doesnt always happen, but it does most of the time.

* Asus PC Probe II wont install because it "cant find IO file" I've tried the download version from Asus website and the one on the mobo CD. Same error message. Dont know what the is all about.

otherwise, it a superboard. not one hiccup other than the 2 above since I've updated to the 0311 BIOS. My machine rox hardcore

[jpinard]

Originally Posted by Highperf15

I was noticing your specs..........your able to run your system with 1T timings?

Yes, but I can't OC hardly at all and this board is most definately slower than my old Asus A8V Deluxe when you take the new video card out of the equation. My memory was purchased in a matched set and is 3200 low latency RAM - so I think that's part of the reason why I can run 1T... but it could also be the mobo hardware revision... I think mine is 1.02g

Takumi - that USB issue is on this A8R too. It really stinks having to disconnect/reconnect USB devices. I've never in my life EVER had to do that before... and it's common on this board. I think I'll feel a lot better when the Crossfire design uses all ATI components instead of Uli/ALi stuff.

[The_Neon_Cowboy]

A8R-MVP Update: What the heck I read asus did this before on thier forums and I've
been keeping an eye on thier bios update page they pulled the VER. 0402 update yet
again! So now the latest for the board listed is 0309. Why do this after haveing the
newer bios avilable for months???? This it still on thier download sever if you can
guess the correct name it's also not on thier FTP anymore either....

0402 dated 01/XX/06 (pulled again)
0309 dated 12/26/05
0201 dated 11/29/05 1st release

ln limbo
0039 reviewer bios, leaked
0408 reviewer bios

And the link that used to talk you to a forum fuill of user companing about this boards
problems, asus pulling the newer bios stuff like that... When you click the link you get
a page like this now
strangly enouge some said they changed the file last time and put it back up. With the
same version number of course....

But if you manually serch for it you find the asus forum for the A8R-MVP here

What the $%%#* are they doing?

not to mention seeing articals like this "ASUS, as usual used the American Megatrends BIOS with the
A8R-MVP. The board shipped with version 0408. We had a few issues with the
original BIOS and the Athlon X2 4800+ CPU, The CPU was reported at 2.8GHz without
overclocking. ECC memory checking was set to on, even when ECC memory was not
installed. (This issue is not exclusive to this motherboard as we have seen it on several
ASUS motherboards lately.) The ECC setting didn't seem to have any impact on stability
though. ASUS sent us a beta BIOS (version 0039) to see if it resolved our issues. I did
have access to the X2 4800+ to see if it was working properly after the new BIOS was
installed. I did however continue to experience the ECC setting issue." -[H]ardOCP

I think asus should be SUED class action style over this bios feasco send out
a board that has good control and options for overclocking etc... then turning around
and shipping the bard with a severaly nuterd bios. Wich everyones seen the wonderfull
reviews this board recived espically due to it overclocking So IMO = to flase
advertiseing...It be like advertiseing and showing a car that can do 110Mph and you buy
it and it only does 65....

This board went from being a “value enthusiast’s board”, down to a to a “value board”.

The only other option is simple stop buying asus mothboards due to thier being crappy
with asus doing stunts like this... You can rest assused in a few months when I see the
asus guys we will be haveing some words or even better would be bring it up in a Q/A
session. AS thier useally at million man lan pimping a newly or recently or to be released
board.... I'd be intested in what thier REPs say....

Veridian, I think there needs to be A8R-MVP thread, then you guys could sticky and
move all the related posts so we can keep the issues serprated.

[jpinard]

Originally Posted by The_Neon_Cowboy

A8R-MVP Update: What the heck I read asus did this before on thier forums and I've
been keeping an eye on thier bios update page they pulled the VER. 0402 update yet
again! So now the latest for the board listed is 0309. Why do this after haveing the
newer bios avilable for months???? This it still on thier download sever if you can
guess the correct name it's also not on thier FTP anymore either....

0402 dated 01/XX/06 (pulled again)
0309 dated 12/26/05
0201 dated 11/29/05 1st release

ln limbo
0039 reviewer bios, leaked
0408 reviewer bios

And the link that used to talk you to a forum fuill of user companing about this boards
problems, asus pulling the newer bios stuff like that... When you click the link you get
a page like this now
strangly enouge some said they changed the file last time and put it back up. With the
same version number of course....

But if you manually serch for it you find the asus forum for the A8R-MVP here

What the $%%#* are they doing?

not to mention seeing articals like this "ASUS, as usual used the American Megatrends BIOS with the
A8R-MVP. The board shipped with version 0408. We had a few issues with the
original BIOS and the Athlon X2 4800+ CPU, The CPU was reported at 2.8GHz without
overclocking. ECC memory checking was set to on, even when ECC memory was not
installed. (This issue is not exclusive to this motherboard as we have seen it on several
ASUS motherboards lately.) The ECC setting didn't seem to have any impact on stability
though. ASUS sent us a beta BIOS (version 0039) to see if it resolved our issues. I did
have access to the X2 4800+ to see if it was working properly after the new BIOS was
installed. I did however continue to experience the ECC setting issue." -[H]ardOCP

I think asus should be SUED class action style over this bios feasco send out
a board that has good control and options for overclocking etc... then turning around
and shipping the bard with a severaly nuterd bios. Wich everyones seen the wonderfull
reviews this board recived espically due to it overclocking So IMO = to flase
advertiseing...It be like advertiseing and showing a car that can do 110Mph and you buy
it and it only does 65....

This board went from being a “value enthusiast’s board”, down to a to a “value board”.

The only other option is simple stop buying asus mothboards due to thier being crappy
with asus doing stunts like this... You can rest assused in a few months when I see the
asus guys we will be haveing some words or even better would be bring it up in a Q/A
session. AS thier useally at million man lan pimping a newly or recently or to be released
board.... I'd be intested in what thier REPs say....

Veridian, I think there needs to be A8R-MVP thread, then you guys could sticky and
move all the related posts so we can keep the issues serprated.

Well several things about this. One they have one of the worst server trees I've ever seen in a company. You'd expect a tier-1 computer hardware vender to have servers up about 99.9% of the time. Well not Asus. And their servers have been this flaky for years. Heck I din't even know if they have a farm. Seems like on guy running a laptop out of his bathroom. That software they use for their forum? Holy God almighty is that not the most un-user-friendly piece of junk you've ever seen? Their ftp servers crash all the time (unless they have planned outages for like 6-48 hours at a time). Still remember to this day how upset I was when I get my Asus A8V Delxue and I'd hear there was a critical BIOS path I needed. The day I got my mobo setup and go to login... servers down... servers down again for 3 days. Then when they were up the ftp servers were down so you couldn't get the file BIOS file anyways. Tier-1 compnay acting like a tier-F (for flunky)

I don't know if I should be or not, but I'm bitterly disappointed in Andandtech for letting us down on that review. As journalist it was their responsability to pound on Asus about the swap meet... told everyone how great this board was... and it's board none of us have ever seen. I no longer visit Anandtech since then. Their reposnse was to poopoo it away, and they're the root cause. If that was a normal production board they should have kepted it. Anands backpedaling reeked of CYA.

What's it take to get Asus to fix this stuff? They already told me they do NOT read their own forums. So where do they watch for issue? Magical Cystal Ball?

Neon Cowboy? First time I've agreed with you. And buddy... you need one kickass spell-checker - heheheheheheh! Looks like you're taking English as a Second Language and Gaalic is your first

What scares me most of all. Is where would we ben if DH hasn't clamped down on this issue and pushed ATI to push ASUS to get a fix? Without DH, without ATI = Asus don't care, consumer screwed. THAT my friends is a scary thought.

[Takumi]

I managed to fix the problem installing PC Probe II. I had reinstalled windows over and older installation, and a coupla folders for PC Probe II for the A8R were still in the programs folder. Deleting the IO and PC Probe Folders did the trick. PC Probe II installed correctly and is functioning as advertised.

As concerns the revelations by Neon_Cowboy, I have to agree: the consumers are getting right royally shafted by Asus on the A8R issue, and if a class-action suit is necessary, then so be it, just show me where to sign....

But the part this concerns me alot as well is the lack of media support for the public. Just exactly how much did Asus/ATI have to pay to keep everyones mouth shut like this?

I want that damned BIOS as used by Wesley Fink from Anandtech.

[Veridian3]

Hi All,

Sorry for the lack of updates...

On the A8R-MVP front i have been pushing asus for help all week. I dont have anything concrete to tell you today however it seems they are putting a lot of resources into finding any faults and fixing them.

Hopefully we will have something for you on Monday.

Stu

[snuffy]

Originally Posted by Veridian3

Hi All,

Sorry for the lack of updates...

On the A8R-MVP front i have been pushing asus for help all week. I dont have anything concrete to tell you today however it seems they are putting a lot of resources into finding any faults and fixing them.

Hopefully we will have something for you on Monday.

Stu

I also have been working with ATI / Asus on finding bugs on both the A8R32 and A8R. If you are running one; post the issues so I can get them to ATI / Asus. I really need issues related to Crossfire, specifically with the 1900 series in CF. (As I have found some but have not seen anyone posted.)

When you post please give detailed information about CPU, PSU, RAM, videocards, and RAID (HDs). More info the better.

If you have one of these boards this is your chance to have your issues heard directly by the engineers responsible for these boards.

If Zardon / Veridian could move and create a sticky that would be great.

[AlexM105]

Originally Posted by Veridian3

Hi All,

Sorry for the lack of updates...

On the A8R-MVP front i have been pushing asus for help all week. I dont have anything concrete to tell you today however it seems they are putting a lot of resources into finding any faults and fixing them.

Hopefully we will have something for you on Monday.

Stu

That's great to hear! Thanks again for this!

Originally Posted by snuffy

I also have been working with ATI / Asus on finding bugs on both the A8R32 and A8R. If you are running one; post the issues so I can get them to ATI / Asus. I really need issues related to Crossfire, specifically with the 1900 series in CF. (As I have found some but have not seen anyone posted.)

When you post please give detailed information about CPU, PSU, RAM, videocards, and RAID (HDs). More info the better.

If you have one of these boards this is your chance to have your issues heard directly by the engineers responsible for these boards.

If Zardon / Veridian could move and create a sticky that would be great.

I might as well post the PM I sent Veridian3 a while ago...

The A8R-MVP is advertised to reach up to 1.65V on the Vcore. Depending on the processor installed, the max you can actually select is either 1.40V or 1.45V (My Opteron 148 let's me select up to 1.45V).

The "Vcore Overvoltage" option is supposed to give up to .2V OVER whatever you manually select. If you select 1.45V and "Vcore Overvoltage" on, the processor should be able to get up to 1.65V. Here is problem 1:

The Vcore will not go over 1.55V no matter what, and fluctuates quite a bit!

The second problem is the memory. Some people have been getting lucky (I assume it depends on the actual sticks of RAM used) and have been able to use the 1T Command rate. 1T will not work for me, even STOCK! I get errors in Memtest, and random reboots, etc...

Wesley Fink, the original reviewer of this board at Anandtech, said he had been able to reach 325MHz at 1T. A few days later he realized that the board reset once during a screw up with the overclocking, and he didn't catch that the board had defaulted back to 2T at around 260 HTT. He reached 325, but at 2T. He now says that the board can do 1T up to 250-260 HTT.

I can't get 1T to work NO MATTER WHAT! I tried stock, I tried underclocking both the RAM and processor, I loosed every single timing one-by-one and all together, I even tried different sticks (Corsair, G.Skill, Kingston... you name it)!

Check these out for more:

http://www.ocworkbench.com/ocwb/ult...opic/44/91.html

And the OFFICIAL ASUS A8R-MVP forum. Take a look at all the BIOS threads in the first 5 pages alone!

http://vip.asus.com/forum/bbs.aspx?...s&model=A8R-MVP

[jpinard]

Out of all this trouble... it's terribly disappointing Asus refused to listen to the multitudes of individual users with problems on the A8R-MVP. Apparently, only upon intense pressure from the certain hardware officials do they move. I think if Asus were smart, they'd undertake a massive overhaul on how they deal with support problems before their market-share is plundered. Asus reminds me of another big hardware company who also though they were untouchable... just before their big fall.

OK back on topic. Veridian, are you co-ordinating with ATI? I'm going to recap the most major roblems plagueing the Asus A8R-MVP (all of which has been documented repeatedly on their own forums):

1. Performance issues (see my thread) http://www.hardwareheaven.com/windows-xp-radeon-display-drivers/99295-asus-a8r-mvp-cat-6-2-bug.html

2. Voltage skews. CPU voltages vary wildly, with variances that go above and below normal safe limits. In fact, so many people have complained abnout this, Asus should just boot up one of their own boards, run their own PC Probe 2 software - and watch the fun

3. USB devices that stop responding... which need to be pulled and and plugged back in for them to work again. The trick here is it's not with ALL USB devices (my Razer Diamondback did this, but my Razer Copperhead does not). It happens more often with warm reboots, connecting USB drives, etc - not necessarily just "out of the blue"... at least in my experience.

4. There is some concern that the motherboard temps are not being reported correctly by the BIOS. External probes show 50C or higher readings (at full load), while the mobo BIOS reports a healthy 28C.

5. Overclockers are not happy about the vcore limit and the vcore problems. There's a trillion angry threads about this already, so I won't re-hash it.

6. 1T timings are not working with a lot of memory.

[Lezziter]

Regarding A8R-MVP.

Well, I was just about to RMA this board to my e-tailer becuase I just can't get it running crash-free at all when I found this thread.

Got similar issues as many others..
Computer freezers randomly (gaming, surfing, music, idle etc) and reboots after 5-10 seconds.
I have tried every tip I have found when searching like hell on google with no effect what so ever.
Actually, the only thing that helped (took ~50% hangups away) was removing my external soundcard, I have no external PCI-devices now.
That had me belive the issue was IRQ-related, but I can really do nothing to resolve the last shared IRQ:s, cause I canät change them at all.

Will give it a last chance today by formatting (again) and re-install Windows following some dudes step over at another forum. If that dosn't help and no new BIOS is released within the upcoming week, it will be a RMA for sure.. Can't have a comupter that reeboots all the time..

[AlexM105]

Originally Posted by Lezziter

Computer freezes randomly (gaming, surfing, music, idle etc) and reboots after 5-10 seconds.

That's what happens when I try to run the RAM at 1T, and that's IF it actually starts up...

[Lezziter]

Originally Posted by AlexM105

That's what happens when I try to run the RAM at 1T, and that's IF it actually starts up...

I thougt that to after reading in some forums, but when I tried 2T, I got the same problems, so no luck there.

[AlexM105]

This needs a bump. Any updates, Veridian3?

[Vidman]

Originally Posted by snuffy

I also have been working with ATI / Asus on finding bugs on both the A8R32 and A8R. If you are running one; post the issues so I can get them to ATI / Asus. I really need issues related to Crossfire, specifically with the 1900 series in CF. (As I have found some but have not seen anyone posted.)

When you post please give detailed information about CPU, PSU, RAM, videocards, and RAID (HDs). More info the better.

If you have one of these boards this is your chance to have your issues heard directly by the engineers responsible for these boards.

If Zardon / Veridian could move and create a sticky that would be great.

The only issues I have with this board so far revolve around USB devices. My main (boot) drive is a 300gb Maxtor Sata1. I have 2 IDE drives connected for additional storage. I also have a 200gb Maxtor One touch USB external drive that I use for backups. The first thing I noticed was a long pause (30 seconds or so) for USB devices to initialize during the boot sequence. I traced that problem to a USB 2.0 hub that the BIOS didn't like. The other hub, an older 1.1 version presented no problems. Both hubs have external power. The other USB issue was with the Maxtor external drive. If I left that drive turned on when I rebooted the machine, the drive boot order would always change preventing the system from booting because the windows drive was no longer the 1st boot drive. If I leave that external drive turned off during boots and reboots, there is absolutely no problem.

[Lezziter]

I'm a bit afraid to say it, but since last format my computer had been rock solid for two days, including 14h of Prime95 and ATi-tool Artifact-scan.
The hangups when overlooking HDD-settings is also gone.

[AlexM105]

Besides 1T not working for me what-so-ever, I can Prime 11+ hours too, but anything higher than in my sig, and I need more Vcore/stable Vcore, which the board is SUPPOSED to give.

[Zardon]

Guys we have some bad news and its not something I like to print in a forum, however ASUS wont reply about the issues. Stuart (veridian3) has emailed and tried to get a response from them for over a week now, and we even had ATI PR get involved and try and get some kind of response to the massive issues you guys are experiencing with this board.

There is honestly nothing else we can do, we have tried all the pressure we can and they arent giving us any response. Strange indeed.

[AlexM105]

Originally Posted by Zardon

Guys we have some bad news and its not something I like to print in a forum, however ASUS wont reply about the issues.

Why the **** not?!

Can you guys post some news on how ASUS is going downhill and such.... I mean it's the truth, and this makes me want to sue them.

[Lezziter]

Originally Posted by Zardon

Guys we have some bad news and its not something I like to print in a forum, however ASUS wont reply about the issues. Stuart (veridian3) has emailed and tried to get a response from them for over a week now, and we even had ATI PR get involved and try and get some kind of response to the massive issues you guys are experiencing with this board.

There is honestly nothing else we can do, we have tried all the pressure we can and they arent giving us any response. Strange indeed.

Well, thats not very funny to hear.. :/
My board i stable for the time beeing, but who knows how it will behave after next format?

Btw, running my 3000+ @ 2,7Ghz stable now, going just fine. Don't require much voltage, so even this crappy board can supply enough.

http://www.amdgeeks.net/overclock/162

[snuffy]

Hope is not lost yet.... I had a long talk with ATI today. I was told these issues are being looked into. Some of the issues that they are directly looking at are:

1) USB hub issue (Vidman) I have seen this and ATI is testing now.

2) KB lockup / no detect after day or two being off. (cycle power to fix. Issue not present if the system is in use.)

3) Issues with 1900 Crossfire.

4) Performance issues and crashing.

ATI is working hard to get these things resolved. Keep posting your issues. I am in constant talks with numerous people at ATI. They want this fixed. Until DFI's board is ready Asus is all they have. So they want this board to work.

I have a ATI Manta reference board. For those that might think the problem is RD580 it is not. I wish the Asus board ran as good.

Zardon forward me your specs and all issues. I will work on this from my side as well.

For those with A8R-MVP boards I have not forgotten you. I gave a bug list for that board as well. (Similar issues.)

BTW those waiting on the DFI board. The reason it is not out yet is a shortage of the ULI southbridge. Once they get SB ships things should move forward.

EDIT Just got an E-mail from Asus. More questions and testing....

[Veridian3]

Guys, i'll be back later with a fuller post on what went on behind the scenes over the last week, and my opinions on whats happened etc.

[Zardon]

Originally Posted by snuffy

Hope is not lost yet.... I had a long talk with ATI today. I was told these issues are being looked into. Some of the issues that they are directly looking at are:
ATI is working hard to get these things resolved. Keep posting your issues. I am in constant talks with numerous people at ATI. They want this fixed. Until DFI's board is ready Asus is all they have. So they want this board to work.

Zardon forward me your specs and all issues. I will work on this from my side as well.

For those with A8R-MVP boards I have not forgotten you. I gave a bug list for that board as well. (Similar issues.)

BTW those waiting on the DFI board. The reason it is not out yet is a shortage of the ULI southbridge. Once they get SB ships things should move forward.

EDIT Just got an E-mail from Asus. More questions and testing....

I dont think you fully understand the issues at hand snuffy. firstly I dont have one of these troublesome systems personally - so im not sure where you got that from ?, ---- we opened this thread and resolved issues with a prior board via ASUS and are now attempting to help end users with another board.

ATI are not the key in this chain and indeed have been very helpful from our end, we have talked to them for over a week and asus have not delivered either fixes or a tangible response and or fix for the end users.

[AlexM105]

Originally Posted by Veridian3

Guys, i'll be back later with a fuller post on what went on behind the scenes over the last week, and my opinions on whats happened etc.

Looking forward to it, thanks.