Asus A8R32-MVP Issues

BWX · Mar 22, 2006, 10:26 AM

Don't feel bad, I can't even get dual channel to work on my A8N-E- or 1T, when OCZ guy said it should work with my config (albeit an unusual mem. config)..
On my old Socket A momo same ram ran 1T and dual channel no problem. Anyway, [/off topic]

The_Neon_Cowboy · Mar 22, 2006, 01:37 PM

Vcore limit answer is Bull, then why the bios review boards bios was "kick ass"
NOT LIMITED like this and the one they actually shipped the bored was neutered
EXTREMELY limited by compare. In for example the Vcore settings... So when
we all read reviews we where like AWSOME ran out bought or ordered one got
home as was DISAPPOITNED.... where is what we where shown????? Not in the
box......far as I'm concerned... (not to mention there was talk of even more options
and control in the final bios.)

Same thing for the 1T issue. Why would the modules work 100% fine in other boards
and be rated at 1T by the MFG. So it must be the memories fault um'kay

.
I can under stand if the rams supposed to be 2T but we pay extra $$$ for the best ram
and have to loose alot of what we paid for to run it at 2T. It makes a huge diffrence in
memory throughput.

I fell we are still getting the run around IMO................ basically telling us they artificially
limited it because its a "value board". So we have to pay more money to upgrade to
another board. for the options YOU took out of this one....

It be like ATI advertising overdrive3, (the nice one with settable o/c) then shipping the
cards with no over drive at all. If that happened people would be upset and for good
reason. The same as a mother boards being shown to everyone with these great options
in a reasonably priced board for them to be REMOVED in the shipping product... I just
wish there was a way we could SUE...

the only means we have is to use the leaked beta reviewer bios to get those options
and we miss out on important fixes, and cpu support by doing so....looks like we need
moded bioses ....

Thanks asus! You helped make up my mind... I stick by my last....Asus is now absolutely
last on my list of board to consider. Enjoy the thought money that would be going to you
will now go to your competitors. A single person such as my self over a life time may only
account for say $12,000 to you but you forget many of us here build for other people, run
their own businesses and so forth... not to mention help other decide on what to buy
DAILY...so it will ripple.. I've defended reports your poor support in the past with my own
experiences being good but now I can no longer say that...

You not the only game in town and considering the immense competition. You
have with others you think you treat us better.

» Abit » Albatron » Aopen » Azza » Biostar
» Chaintech » DFI » ECS » EPoX » FIC » Gigabyte Technology
» Iwill » JetWay » LuckyStar » Mach Speed » Matsonic
» MSI » PC Chips » Pine » Shuttle » Soltek » Soyo
» Supermicro » TekRam » Transcend » Tyan » Zida

Just a small proportion of what’s out there.... Vying for out dollars… 1st time I’ve
ever seen something “not as advertised”. The community as a while doesn’t like
being dicked around…by you so they will take their dollars elsewhere as well….

*snuffy* · Mar 22, 2006, 01:55 PM

nystylin74 I would not buy the A8R32-MVP yet. My main issue is with X1900 CF on this board. If the A8R32 you buy does what mine is doing you will HATE it. I would wait to see if they get the opertaional issues fixed first. For me this board is not even good for non-tweaked 1900 CF setups.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veridian3

OK guys, Asus have responded to our email which contained all your feedback on the A8R-MVP.

Here is the unedited mail, please let us know any comments you would like fed back to Asus re the response and any further questions it raises.

Ouch! Not the answers I wanted to hear.

On the vcore. My question to Asus is why my FX-60 which ran Prime95 stable @ 3GHz on a RDX200 and a Manta reference @ 1.45 vcore will not run @ 1.5 vcore on the A8R32. Seems to me that vcore instablity is not so normal. MY personal opinion is that the board is under powered. a 24pin PSU and 4 pin connector is not enough. The Manta reference board has 24 pin, new 8 pin AND TWO 4 pin molex connectors. The RDX200 has 24 pin, 8 pin and one 4 pin floppy connector. I feel the lack of power connections puts additional strain on power regulation and distrubution on the MB. It might be fine at stock but once you OC things get sloppy. My first and easy question is why did Asus remove the "EZ-plug" off this board?

Reguardless I hope I can get my more basic issues resolved.

BTW The DFI board looks to not be available this month. With the ULI shortages I was told I would be lucky to get a pre-production sample board this month. It really sucks as I expect this board to be good and really need boards for the many CF systems I have in build. Not DFI's fault but still...

csimon · Mar 22, 2006, 02:14 PM

Sounds to me like they're saying that there's nothing to fix. But if that is true as far as the +.2v is concerned ...then why does A8R32 have the feature? Does it not work?

primesuspect · Mar 22, 2006, 03:52 PM

That's one of those responses that's not a response... Basically saying "our board is not defective - you should have known that this was within spec when you bought it"

Hopefully this is just rhetoric until they release some bios updates that will address some of these issues. However, what I think more likely is that we'll see a "revision 2" of this board, meaning those of us who own the rev 1 boards are just screwed.

*snuffy* · Mar 22, 2006, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by primesuspect

That's one of those responses that's not a response... Basically saying "our board is not defective - you should have known that this was within spec when you bought it"

Hopefully this is just rhetoric until they release some bios updates that will address some of these issues. However, what I think more likely is that we'll see a "revision 2" of this board, meaning those of us who own the rev 1 boards are just screwed.

On some of the issues I am fearfull that a new rev might be the only answer. (Issues related to OCing and power.) I do think it is possible for this board to be made acceptable for those just looking for a solid non-OC board. I feel that this rev with the proper bios/ driver fixes should be able to perform like the A8N-SLI. Solid and dependable but not for those that want to OC.

Guess time will tell.....

csimon · Mar 22, 2006, 04:09 PM

prime is that your dog?

primesuspect · Mar 22, 2006, 04:48 PM

No, snuffie spells his name with an IE at the end

fryspeak · Mar 22, 2006, 07:23 PM

After the official response, are they still false advertising the A8R-MVP on their website?

The_Neon_Cowboy · Mar 22, 2006, 08:34 PM

heck i'm not even much of an overclocker.. I just want what I paid for...
should I chose to O/C with this board later I would of liked to have what
was shown to me in reviews.. being what about 95% of the people read
before they bought it or herd info from the reviews...

time to go board shopping again....

Quote:

Originally Posted by fryspeak

After the official response, are they still false advertising the A8R-MVP on their website?

you mean this on the product page?(A8R-MVP)

Quote:

Precision Tweaker
Designed for serious overclockers
It offers ways to raise system performance inch-by-inch and step-by-step to achieve maximum performance! This is about getting the most out of your machine and taking pride in your customized computer.
* vDIMM - Take control of how much power is going into the memory modules. ASUS gives you 8-step voltage control to the DIMM
* vCore - Find out "exactly" how much power your CPU needs. Fine-tune it with 0.025 volts at a time!
* SFS - SFS (Stepless Frequency Selection) allows FSB tuning from 200MHz up to 400MHz at 1MHz increments.

wich is kinda of joke now......

dehx · Mar 22, 2006, 08:45 PM

What a load of F****ING F@G trash.

I am so pissed off at the MVP I could throw it at my mother in law.

I bought an X1900XTX, A8R-MVP, OCZ Platinum Elite 4800 ram, CERTIFIED to run at 2.5-4-4-10 @ 1T.

Every product from this purchase batch... ran fine, EXCEPT the A8R MVP.

The highest stable settings I can get @ 1T is 228 FSB, AND THATS WITH THE SAMSUNG TCCD5 Module, holy hell... if these modules cant do 1T at > 228, what can???

So now, I settle with a 300 Mhz o/c cause the voltage can't go higher than 1.525 (which is what mine reads) my RAM which is rated to run at 600 Mhz, running at a mere 454 Mhz.

I'm not going to get Crossfire, I actually considering getting a LANPARTY so I can overclock worth a damn. I'm never buying ASUS Again...

You HEAR THAT ASUS??? NEVER!

AlexM105 · Mar 22, 2006, 09:16 PM

This is ridiculous!

Huge Vcore fluctuations are normal?

RAM can run in 1T in EVERY other board but this one?

And how about this...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asus

Asus Response
We are following AMD's specification. VID+50 is what AMD defines and Asus increases
it to 100. This +100 limit is to protect user's CPU. A8R-MVP is designed for the
mainstream market [color=Red]so we take more conservative options for it[/color].

Really Asus? Explain this then:

Quote:

Precision Tweaker
[color=Red]Designed for serious overclockers [/color]
It offers ways to raise system performance inch-by-inch and step-by-step[color=Red] to achieve maximum performance![/color] This is about getting the most out of your machine and taking pride in your customized computer.
* vDIMM - Take control of how much power is going into the memory modules. ASUS gives you 8-step voltage control to the DIMM
* vCore - Find out "exactly" how much power your CPU needs. Fine-tune it with 0.025 volts at a time!
* SFS - SFS (Stepless Frequency Selection) allows FSB tuning from 200MHz up to 400MHz at 1MHz increments.

Viridian3, please don't give up now. Asus is CLEARLY wrong here.

***Veridian3*** · Mar 22, 2006, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexM105

Veridian3, please don't give up now. Asus is CLEARLY wrong here.

I have some quite strong feelings about their response but for now i want to know what you guys think... i'll pass back the general feeling (and my own) once everyone has had a chance to comment.

kelticknight · Mar 22, 2006, 11:16 PM

l think l will not be buying a asus xfire as poor from them in responce to customers,just lame excuses
its ashame,looked like good mobo.also loked rushed out and didn't learn from last xfire

Highperf15 · Mar 22, 2006, 11:40 PM

Okay..........since Asus wants to play like a "3rd tier" mobo maker, then they will be treated like one..........this mobo is going into the trash......

I think that Crossfire is certainly out of the question in my new rig (thank God I only purchased the mobo)..........I'm going with DFI and Nvidia from now on.......

csimon · Mar 22, 2006, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veridian3

I have some quite strong feelings about their response but for now i want to know what you guys think... i'll pass back the general feeling (and my own) once everyone has had a chance to comment.

First of all ...I'd like to thank you very much for your trouble Veridian3. This is the most cooperation we've gotten from Asus with this board since Wes shared the 0039 bios.

If this turns out to be a "sorry fellahs you bought it" situation ...can we at least ask for some type of trade up deal to the A8R32-MVP. That board doesn't seem so bad now that the issues have been mostly resolved from what I understand. Perhaps with a trade up they can knock a certain percentage or whatever off of the Deluxe ...it might make a few of us happy and keep a few of us as Asus return customers. This is something I suggested in the Asus forums a few months back.

Again Veridian3
Thanks for your efforts
csimon

Zardon · Mar 22, 2006, 11:55 PM

Our review on the Asus A8R32-MVP Deluxe was held off for a while, as our regulars will know we were working closely with Asus in fixing some rather major clock issues and due to our intervention Asus allowed us to host and release a beta bios last week. So whlie other sites published reviews with the faulty bios, we waited until we could deliver an accurate and indepth look at this rather impressive board from Asus. This review is a double whammy as we are also testing a HIS X1900 Crossfire setup.

read the review here

DISCUSS http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthre...230#post843230

knights_03 · Mar 23, 2006, 12:41 AM

Veridian3 & Zardon

It's pretty simple what Asus has to do > the board & or bios is flawed. (to use a Canadian phrase) Don't skate around the issue > fix the board or live with the fallout. Your reputation is at risk Asus!!!!

The_Neon_Cowboy · Mar 23, 2006, 01:21 AM

A correction: The regular heat sink I see used on ATI chipsets has 9 fins , asuses
has 7 not to mention. Under a full load when my thermal probe says 60C at the
heatsink, meaning the chip is hotter. Thats with the bios, pcprobe etc reads it 34C.
When I'm idle the temps are 29C and the actual on the heat sink ate in te upper
40's.... I'm not the only one who noticed the heat sink is really HOT. But the board
says its just slightly above room temp.VS the out side of a hot coup of coffie it feels like....

Also note: it been longer then 3 full months since there has been a bios update!!!!
people are haveing tons of issues, no bios updates mean asusing is doing NOTHING
to fix them....

fryspeak · Mar 23, 2006, 04:31 AM

You'd think with the little choice of Crossfire one has compared to nForce SLI that ATI would be highly concerned that even a mainstream board was being treated this way. This board could be ASUS' best seller if they produced as advertised or at least seemed concerned about the problems people are having and try to fix them. Sad this only happens with the deluxe boards. ATI could give NVIDIA some serious competition if this board would take off.

I'm not a serious overclocker but would like to know the board I purchased was being supported better. Hardware problems aside, how come the last BIOS update was in January? And how come sometimes that update is on the site and sometimes it's not? Also, the ULI drivers for the 0402 BIOS (1.0.5.2a supporting RAID 5) are not WHQL certified. Try doing a fresh install of XP with a USB only keyboard. When you get to the WHQL warning you you can't use the keyboard or mouse. I did find newer drivers (1.0.5.8) available under the A8R32 driver section (how come it's not listed for the A8R?) that work. Just would be nice to see some activity for the downloads for the A8R!!!

Come on ASUS and ATI!!! Don't let us down now!

AlexM105 · Mar 23, 2006, 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fryspeak

how come the last BIOS update was in January?

The latest BIOS (0402) was actually released in December. It was re-posted one day in January due to some server problems they had.

It's been 4 months without a new BIOS now.

kelticknight · Mar 23, 2006, 09:42 AM

been aabit mobo suser for years without any issues and was looking at this mobo to go xfire,l couldn't take a chance with it
then there sapphire with there offering with less pci 32 slots which l need
will with to see what dfi offer
bottom like for me is 3 pc32 slots and xfire mobo ,not overclocker of mobo's
to think couple of days ago ,l was on overclockers website and final click to send my credit card details to buy asus and l would have this problemed asus mobo
its not good that a ASUS MOBO has so many issues ,you would think they would have learnt fron there first xfire,and they reply the gave to driverheaven was mostly excuses
lm for one ,am very surprised
don't they relise that site like here and overclockers have people that check the forums before they buy
which is worth its wait in gold tio advisetise there mobo ,are they that slow to know this
l never had a asus mobo and alot of user sware by them and when you see them upset with asus
bottom line

NOT GOOD,ASUS,GET YOUR ACT TO GETHER

cuke2u · Mar 23, 2006, 05:06 PM

Veridian3 or Zardon
I'm begining to find it difficult to follow this long, and rather conviluted thread, as it refers to two mainboards. Is there anyway you could start another dedicated to those poor souls who have a A8R-MVP, and leave us A8R32-MVP's to their own frustrations?
ChrisC

360_Rog · Mar 23, 2006, 08:08 PM

Thanks Zardon and Veridian3 for all your hard work! I thoroughly enjoyed the review; it was most informative.

I am now a DH regular and visit the site a few times a day for news.

There are definitely pros and cons to splitting this thread. However, I, for example, am one of the poor saps who owns an A8R-MVP. It has been extremely useful to have everything in one thread so that I can compare experiences between users of these two mainboards and make a decision as to what to do with the one I have. It's good to know that I'm not going crazy, and that other people have the exact same issues with the A8R. It's also been very useful to speak with other people who have "upgraded" to the A8R32 , and that the problems we are experiencing with A8R-MVP are fixed in the A8R32. I can think of no other way that such detailed fact-gathering would have been possible if it weren't for this combined thread. However, now that things have somewhat stabilized, I wouldn't be opposed to two threads with links posted within this one.

Since the A8R32 earned the DH seal of approval and DFI is taking too long because of the ULi southbridge shortage, I might give Asus a second chance. This freezing and crashing I experience every day really needs to come to an end...I don't overclock at all and use the board in my workstation for my business. Every time it freezes, I lose work, time, and money! Even if I upgrade, that still leaves me with a one mobo I want to throw out, and feeling like Asus stole $139 CDN out of my pocket. I would feel better if they would acknowledge their high-end "value"d (sic)

customers, and allow some sort of trade-in/trade-up to a STABLE board that has the proper hardware and firmware to do what the other was advertised to.

Zardon · Mar 23, 2006, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuke2u

Veridian3 or Zardon
I'm begining to find it difficult to follow this long, and rather conviluted thread, as it refers to two mainboards. Is there anyway you could start another dedicated to those poor souls who have a A8R-MVP, and leave us A8R32-MVP's to their own frustrations?
ChrisC

I have just created a new thread over here for the non *32 discussion. so if you guys want to discuss that mobo, please head over to that thread. we can leave the talk on the *32 variant in here. im not going to break this thread up as it has a certain flow in parts which would make it hard for a new user to follow, however all new discussion can be handled in the new thread.

csimon · Mar 23, 2006, 09:54 PM

Can you point the frontpage link to there as well?

Lienrag · Mar 23, 2006, 11:56 PM

I was ready to buy an A8R32MVP

but reading comments in the ASUS forum and comments in this one, I stop buying this motherboard so far .

Is it possible that someone sum up the bugs remained in this motherboard with the firmware version 311? (I'm sorry but I'm confused because some issues are only for the A8RMVP and it's difficult if you didn't participate since the beginning).

Anyway, thanks for your helpfull comments and your help to force ASUS to fix the issues.

360_Rog · Mar 24, 2006, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lienrag

(I'm sorry but I'm confused because some issues are only for the A8RMVP and it's difficult if you didn't participate since the beginning).

IMHO it's well worth reading the saga from the beginning.

There are some summaries posted throughout.

360_Rog · Mar 24, 2006, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zardon

I have just created a new thread over here for the non *32 discussion. so if you guys want to discuss that mobo, please head over to that thread. we can leave the talk on the *32 variant in here. im not going to break this thread up as it has a certain flow in parts which would make it hard for a new user to follow, however all new discussion can be handled in the new thread.

Thanks, Zardon. I agree about the "flow", and I think that most will be happy with that solution.

~~werty316~~ · Mar 24, 2006, 05:13 AM

I wish Asus would fix the 1T bug on the A8N-E

Mar 22, 2006, 10:26 AM	#241
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,669 Rep Power: 110 System Specs	Don't feel bad, I can't even get dual channel to work on my A8N-E- or 1T, when OCZ guy said it should work with my config (albeit an unusual mem. config).. On my old Socket A momo same ram ran 1T and dual channel no problem. Anyway, [/off topic] __________________

Mar 22, 2006, 01:37 PM	#242
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	Vcore limit answer is Bull, then why the bios review boards bios was "kick ass" NOT LIMITED like this and the one they actually shipped the bored was neutered EXTREMELY limited by compare. In for example the Vcore settings... So when we all read reviews we where like AWSOME ran out bought or ordered one got home as was DISAPPOITNED.... where is what we where shown????? Not in the box......far as I'm concerned... (not to mention there was talk of even more options and control in the final bios.) Same thing for the 1T issue. Why would the modules work 100% fine in other boards and be rated at 1T by the MFG. So it must be the memories fault um'kay . I can under stand if the rams supposed to be 2T but we pay extra $$$ for the best ram and have to loose alot of what we paid for to run it at 2T. It makes a huge diffrence in memory throughput. I fell we are still getting the run around IMO................ basically telling us they artificially limited it because its a "value board". So we have to pay more money to upgrade to another board. for the options YOU took out of this one.... It be like ATI advertising overdrive3, (the nice one with settable o/c) then shipping the cards with no over drive at all. If that happened people would be upset and for good reason. The same as a mother boards being shown to everyone with these great options in a reasonably priced board for them to be REMOVED in the shipping product... I just wish there was a way we could SUE... the only means we have is to use the leaked beta reviewer bios to get those options and we miss out on important fixes, and cpu support by doing so....looks like we need moded bioses .... Thanks asus! You helped make up my mind... I stick by my last....Asus is now absolutely last on my list of board to consider. Enjoy the thought money that would be going to you will now go to your competitors. A single person such as my self over a life time may only account for say $12,000 to you but you forget many of us here build for other people, run their own businesses and so forth... not to mention help other decide on what to buy DAILY...so it will ripple.. I've defended reports your poor support in the past with my own experiences being good but now I can no longer say that... You not the only game in town and considering the immense competition. You have with others you think you treat us better. » Abit » Albatron » Aopen » Azza » Biostar » Chaintech » DFI » ECS » EPoX » FIC » Gigabyte Technology » Iwill » JetWay » LuckyStar » Mach Speed » Matsonic » MSI » PC Chips » Pine » Shuttle » Soltek » Soyo » Supermicro » TekRam » Transcend » Tyan » Zida Just a small proportion of what’s out there.... Vying for out dollars… 1st time I’ve ever seen something “not as advertised”. The community as a while doesn’t like being dicked around…by you so they will take their dollars elsewhere as well…. __________________

Mar 22, 2006, 03:52 PM	#245
primesuspect DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	That's one of those responses that's not a response... Basically saying "our board is not defective - you should have known that this was within spec when you bought it" Hopefully this is just rhetoric until they release some bios updates that will address some of these issues. However, what I think more likely is that we'll see a "revision 2" of this board, meaning those of us who own the rev 1 boards are just screwed. __________________ News, views, and schmooze for the discerning geek [color=Gray] ASUS A8R-MVP \| Opteron 170 \| Corsair XMS \| Some other stuff[/color] Last edited by primesuspect; Mar 22, 2006 at 03:59 PM. Reason: sig change

Mar 22, 2006, 04:48 PM	#248
primesuspect DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 3 Rep Power: 0	No, snuffie spells his name with an IE at the end __________________ News, views, and schmooze for the discerning geek [color=Gray] ASUS A8R-MVP \| Opteron 170 \| Corsair XMS \| Some other stuff[/color]

Mar 22, 2006, 11:16 PM	#254
kelticknight DriverHeaven Knight Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: EIRE{great for black stuff ,bulmers cider and Munster rubgy Posts: 1,095 Rep Power: 0	l think l will not be buying a asus xfire as poor from them in responce to customers,just lame excuses its ashame,looked like good mobo.also loked rushed out and didn't learn from last xfire __________________

Mar 22, 2006, 02:14 PM	#244
csimon DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 29 Rep Power: 0	Sounds to me like they're saying that there's nothing to fix. But if that is true as far as the +.2v is concerned ...then why does A8R32 have the feature? Does it not work?

Mar 22, 2006, 04:09 PM	#247
csimon DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 29 Rep Power: 0	prime is that your dog?

Mar 22, 2006, 07:23 PM	#249
fryspeak DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	After the official response, are they still false advertising the A8R-MVP on their website?

Mar 22, 2006, 08:45 PM	#251
dehx DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 30 Rep Power: 0	What a load of F****ING F@G trash. I am so pissed off at the MVP I could throw it at my mother in law. I bought an X1900XTX, A8R-MVP, OCZ Platinum Elite 4800 ram, CERTIFIED to run at 2.5-4-4-10 @ 1T. Every product from this purchase batch... ran fine, EXCEPT the A8R MVP. The highest stable settings I can get @ 1T is 228 FSB, AND THATS WITH THE SAMSUNG TCCD5 Module, holy hell... if these modules cant do 1T at > 228, what can??? So now, I settle with a 300 Mhz o/c cause the voltage can't go higher than 1.525 (which is what mine reads) my RAM which is rated to run at 600 Mhz, running at a mere 454 Mhz. I'm not going to get Crossfire, I actually considering getting a LANPARTY so I can overclock worth a damn. I'm never buying ASUS Again... You HEAR THAT ASUS??? NEVER!

Mar 22, 2006, 11:40 PM	#255
Highperf15 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Martinez, GA Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0	Okay..........since Asus wants to play like a "3rd tier" mobo maker, then they will be treated like one..........this mobo is going into the trash...... I think that Crossfire is certainly out of the question in my new rig (thank God I only purchased the mobo)..........I'm going with DFI and Nvidia from now on....... __________________

Mar 22, 2006, 11:55 PM	#257
Zardon DriverHeaven Founder Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 32,480 Rep Power: 179	Our review on the Asus A8R32-MVP Deluxe was held off for a while, as our regulars will know we were working closely with Asus in fixing some rather major clock issues and due to our intervention Asus allowed us to host and release a beta bios last week. So whlie other sites published reviews with the faulty bios, we waited until we could deliver an accurate and indepth look at this rather impressive board from Asus. This review is a double whammy as we are also testing a HIS X1900 Crossfire setup. read the review here DISCUSS http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthre...230#post843230

Mar 23, 2006, 12:41 AM	#258
knights_03 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	*Veridian3* & *Zardon* It's pretty simple what Asus has to do > the board & or bios is flawed. (to use a Canadian phrase) Don't skate around the issue > fix the board or live with the fallout. Your reputation is at risk Asus!!!!

Mar 23, 2006, 01:21 AM	#259
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 92 System Specs	A correction: The regular heat sink I see used on ATI chipsets has 9 fins , asuses has 7 not to mention. Under a full load when my thermal probe says 60C at the heatsink, meaning the chip is hotter. Thats with the bios, pcprobe etc reads it 34C. When I'm idle the temps are 29C and the actual on the heat sink ate in te upper 40's.... I'm not the only one who noticed the heat sink is really HOT. But the board says its just slightly above room temp.VS the out side of a hot coup of coffie it feels like.... Also note: it been longer then 3 full months since there has been a bios update!!!! people are haveing tons of issues, no bios updates mean asusing is doing NOTHING to fix them.... __________________ Last edited by The_Neon_Cowboy; Mar 23, 2006 at 01:31 AM.

Mar 23, 2006, 04:31 AM	#260
fryspeak DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	You'd think with the little choice of Crossfire one has compared to nForce SLI that ATI would be highly concerned that even a mainstream board was being treated this way. This board could be ASUS' best seller if they produced as advertised or at least seemed concerned about the problems people are having and try to fix them. Sad this only happens with the deluxe boards. ATI could give NVIDIA some serious competition if this board would take off. I'm not a serious overclocker but would like to know the board I purchased was being supported better. Hardware problems aside, how come the last BIOS update was in January? And how come sometimes that update is on the site and sometimes it's not? Also, the ULI drivers for the 0402 BIOS (1.0.5.2a supporting RAID 5) are not WHQL certified. Try doing a fresh install of XP with a USB only keyboard. When you get to the WHQL warning you you can't use the keyboard or mouse. I did find newer drivers (1.0.5.8) available under the A8R32 driver section (how come it's not listed for the A8R?) that work. Just would be nice to see some activity for the downloads for the A8R!!! Come on ASUS and ATI!!! Don't let us down now! Last edited by fryspeak; Mar 23, 2006 at 05:40 AM.

Mar 23, 2006, 09:42 AM	#262
kelticknight DriverHeaven Knight Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: EIRE{great for black stuff ,bulmers cider and Munster rubgy Posts: 1,095 Rep Power: 0	been aabit mobo suser for years without any issues and was looking at this mobo to go xfire,l couldn't take a chance with it then there sapphire with there offering with less pci 32 slots which l need will with to see what dfi offer bottom like for me is 3 pc32 slots and xfire mobo ,not overclocker of mobo's to think couple of days ago ,l was on overclockers website and final click to send my credit card details to buy asus and l would have this problemed asus mobo its not good that a ASUS MOBO has so many issues ,you would think they would have learnt fron there first xfire,and they reply the gave to driverheaven was mostly excuses lm for one ,am very surprised don't they relise that site like here and overclockers have people that check the forums before they buy which is worth its wait in gold tio advisetise there mobo ,are they that slow to know this l never had a asus mobo and alot of user sware by them and when you see them upset with asus bottom line NOT GOOD,ASUS,GET YOUR ACT TO GETHER __________________

Mar 23, 2006, 05:06 PM	#263
cuke2u DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 75 Rep Power: 0	*Veridian3 or Zardon* I'm begining to find it difficult to follow this long, and rather conviluted thread, as it refers to two mainboards. Is there anyway you could start another dedicated to those poor souls who have a A8R-MVP, and leave us A8R32-MVP's to their own frustrations? ChrisC

Mar 23, 2006, 08:08 PM	#264
360_Rog DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 19 Rep Power: 0	On the topic of thread splitting... Thanks Zardon and Veridian3 for all your hard work! I thoroughly enjoyed the review; it was most informative. I am now a DH regular and visit the site a few times a day for news. There are definitely pros and cons to splitting this thread. However, I, for example, am one of the poor saps who owns an A8R-MVP. It has been extremely useful to have everything in one thread so that I can compare experiences between users of these two mainboards and make a decision as to what to do with the one I have. It's good to know that I'm not going crazy, and that other people have the exact same issues with the A8R. It's also been very useful to speak with other people who have "upgraded" to the A8R32 , and that the problems we are experiencing with A8R-MVP are fixed in the A8R32. I can think of no other way that such detailed fact-gathering would have been possible if it weren't for this combined thread. However, now that things have somewhat stabilized, I wouldn't be opposed to two threads with links posted within this one. Since the A8R32 earned the DH seal of approval and DFI is taking too long because of the ULi southbridge shortage, I might give Asus a second chance. This freezing and crashing I experience every day really needs to come to an end...I don't overclock at all and use the board in my workstation for my business. Every time it freezes, I lose work, time, and money! Even if I upgrade, that still leaves me with a one mobo I want to throw out, and feeling like Asus stole $139 CDN out of my pocket. I would feel better if they would acknowledge their high-end "value"d (sic) customers, and allow some sort of trade-in/trade-up to a STABLE board that has the proper hardware and firmware to do what the other was advertised to. __________________ Thermaltake Armor / Enermax Liberty 620W / DFI CFX3200 DR / Athlon 64 X2 4400+ / 2 GB OCZ Platinum PC3200 DDR / ATI x1800XT / 1x WDC 500 GB 7200 RPM SATA2 / 3x Maxtor 300 GB 7200 RPM SATA / 200 GB WDC IDE / 2 x LG 4167B DVD RAM / SoundBlaster X-Fi Platinum / Huppauge WinTV PVR 500 MCE

Mar 23, 2006, 09:54 PM	#266
csimon DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 29 Rep Power: 0	Can you point the frontpage link to there as well?

Mar 23, 2006, 11:56 PM	#267
Lienrag DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: France Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	I was ready to buy an A8R32MVP but reading comments in the ASUS forum and comments in this one, I stop buying this motherboard so far . Is it possible that someone sum up the bugs remained in this motherboard with the firmware version 311? (I'm sorry but I'm confused because some issues are only for the A8RMVP and it's difficult if you didn't participate since the beginning). Anyway, thanks for your helpfull comments and your help to force ASUS to fix the issues.

Mar 24, 2006, 05:13 AM	#270
~~werty316~~ BANNED Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 604 Rep Power: 0	I wish Asus would fix the 1T bug on the A8N-E