Asus A8R-MVP Discussion

Kahlos · Mar 27, 2006, 09:28 AM

Well thanks for the help guys will try that today or tommorow when i've got the time. I've been thinking its the hard drives for so long and it actually turns out to be the mobo.

Damn windows can't tell you what there errors actually are

. I will make a guide of how to get this mobo going when i get it going as long as i do

baseball_55 · Mar 27, 2006, 10:12 AM

Kahlos

You have listed everything in your specs with exeption to your PSU!! make & model req'd - good advice so far - Partitions in Raid0????
Go with one stick of ram as suggested > also take the sound card out of the equation. Good luck on your fresh install. Lots of knowledge on this site > any questions give a shout.

bb55

***Veridian3*** · Mar 27, 2006, 07:43 PM

Hi guys, havent forgotten about you. I'm going to catch up on this thread tomorrow and mail asus a response so if you have anything to be passed to them today is a good day to post it

csimon · Mar 27, 2006, 08:01 PM

More vcore and a 1t fix would be nice! =oP

Kahlos · Mar 27, 2006, 08:03 PM

Well i didn't think that the rest of the computers specs were nessicary but any way they are:
Silverstone Strider 560W PSU
Antec P180 Case
Thermaltake Big Typhoon CPU cooler
Articsilver thermalpaste
Artic cooler ATI Silencer 5 GPU cooler

If theres anything else then ask me again. I thought i may as well mention the coolers just encase you thought it might be overheating.
My partions are as follows:
C: 5GB 4k cluster size
D: 50GB 64k cluster size
E: 160GB 64k cluster size
F: 50GB 64k cluster size
G: 100GB 64k cluster size
H:10GB 32k cluster size
I:50GB 64k cluster size
J:5GB 64k cluster size
L:40GB 64k cluster size
The hard drives I don't recon are the problem but prove me wrong

jpinard · Mar 27, 2006, 09:21 PM

Remind Asus, anyone investing in a Crossfire board is going to be an enthusiast. I don't know of any "non-enthusiast" who might buy 2 video cards to throw in their system. If they're worried about non-enthusiasts playing with the BIOS - they should be reminded unless you "have a clue" - you wouldn't be going to their website to "flash your BIOS". They should appreciate the fact we're not stupid... not try and treat us as such.

dehx · Mar 27, 2006, 10:07 PM

hey J, tell me what you did to get that 2.6 out of your 3500

I have the same setup as you do,

I can get my Venice 3500 to run at 2.6 (11x237, with a mem of 166) or 2.7 (300x9) with mem @ 133.

What multi are you using? and how did you get it stable. So far highest stable FSB with 1T 1:1 mem timing for me is 227. 2.5 ghz

Kahlos · Mar 27, 2006, 11:01 PM

Arh your guidence hasn't helped

. I took the soundcard and 2nd bit of RAM out. I disabled pritty much everything on the bios and took off all forms of overclocking. I lowered the clock of the RAM. Then i installed windows pressed F6 to install the latest SATA/RAID drivers which i downloaded off the Asus site. I then pressed yes to both of the little pop ups saying that if you install this software it might make windows unstable. I configured it. Got into windows. Put partionmagic 8 on. Partioned my drives how i wanted. It rebooted did the partioning. Got into windows. It then said it needed to restart due to needing to after installing somein it didn't tell me about. I also changed the drive letters using disk manager while in windows. Rebooted and then tried to install SP2 only to be greeted by the familar 'NON-PAGED-AREA FAULT' message once again. Rebooted and then before i even get into windows 'NON-PAGED-AREA FAULT'. Tried safe mode but again 'NON-PAGED-AREA FAULT'.The error code being
0x00000050 (0xf7b11000,0x00000001,0xf7b60266,0x00000000)

I was soooo looking foward to getting it going and now this

. I really thought that it may work this time. Ah well. Any ideas

. Oh and do i need those ULI drivers or summin. I downloaded them but its an exe and i thought you installed them while in windows. Looks like i will be dead by the time i get this going

Anyone know if its my partioning. Or the cluster sizes or summin. ?

jpinard · Mar 27, 2006, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dehx

hey J, tell me what you did to get that 2.6 out of your 3500

I have the same setup as you do,

I can get my Venice 3500 to run at 2.6 (11x237, with a mem of 166) or 2.7 (300x9) with mem @ 133.

What multi are you using? and how did you get it stable. So far highest stable FSB with 1T 1:1 mem timing for me is 227. 2.5 ghz

Were you talking to Root3d? I don't have a 3500...

jpinard · Mar 27, 2006, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kahlos

Arh your guidence hasn't helped

. I took the soundcard and 2nd bit of RAM out. I disabled pritty much everything on the bios and took off all forms of overclocking. I lowered the clock of the RAM. Then i installed windows pressed F6 to install the latest SATA/RAID drivers which i downloaded off the Asus site. I then pressed yes to both of the little pop ups saying that if you install this software it might make windows unstable. I configured it. Got into windows. Put partionmagic 8 on. Partioned my drives how i wanted. It rebooted did the partioning. Got into windows. It then said it needed to restart due to needing to after installing somein it didn't tell me about. I also changed the drive letters using disk manager while in windows. Rebooted and then tried to install SP2 only to be greeted by the familar 'NON-PAGED-AREA FAULT' message once again. Rebooted and then before i even get into windows 'NON-PAGED-AREA FAULT'. Tried safe mode but again 'NON-PAGED-AREA FAULT'.The error code being
0x00000050 (0xf7b11000,0x00000001,0xf7b60266,0x00000000)

I was soooo looking foward to getting it going and now this

. I really thought that it may work this time. Ah well. Any ideas

. Oh and do i need those ULI drivers or summin. I downloaded them but its an exe and i thought you installed them while in windows. Looks like i will be dead by the time i get this going

Anyone know if its my partioning. Or the cluster sizes or summin. ?

I'm going to suggest some things, so please forgive me if you've already done them.

1. If you're using BIOS 4.02, you must use Uli SATA from Asus's website (or later). After you extract the files there shaould be a makedisk option. Use that to make your boot disk.

2. I hope I get this all right since I'm donig it from memory... During Win XP hit F6 to get to the SCSI disk install and let it load up those drivers. When you get to partitioning options, have the installer delete any existing partitions. Then do NOT push "C". Have it install normally using the whole disk, and do the nromal (not fast) NTFS format.

3. Follow through with the rest of the install. Id' suggest during the install you ony have one HD attached and it be on the SATA 1 controller. Disable 1T timing and let your RAM autodetect. ON this boardif you set your timings too slow it will crash your system. YES! If your memory settings are too far off (either higher or lower) it will become terribly unstable. I had to clear my CMOS when I set my timings really slow as I was testing (and it wouldn't boot).

4. From here if you get that same error, then you have 3 things to determine. I think I saw you'd alrady gone through many PSU's and vid cards, so is it the memory, cpu, or mobo. If you used the cpu/memory in ANY other device and it was stable - then you know it's the mobo. RAM it for a A8R32 if you have to stick with an Asus A8R design. If your retailer won't let you do that, call Asus and keep bothering them til they'll do a credit/upgrade (you'll have to call them becasue it seems they rarely btoher to answer tech support e-mail or their webforms nowadays). Keep in mind it's not your fault the board has design problems. If they'd take some time away from the NVidia updates (qwhcih come very fast and regular) - maybe they could get that new BIOS out.

baseball_55 · Mar 28, 2006, 12:37 AM

Kahlos

Ok here is the deal, the first this after doing the format reinstall and after partioning the drive(which is not advisable cause it slows the machine down) is do a defrag and make sure u set during your partion make sure u set your primary C drive as active and do not change the primary partion to another letter. your boot sector is generally at the front and at the back of the drive, if u partion it u will not have the back portion of the boot sector. now the best way to do this is as follows, before installing windows and after u have pressed F6 and installed the drivers would be to set the PRIMARY partition as the size u wish and leave the rest for after u installed windows, and u can just use windows as the partition manager rather than useing partion magic, unless u are uncomfortable useing the windows solution.
Have fun and hope this makes yer day

bb55

P@N · Mar 28, 2006, 01:19 AM

1. I'm having sound issues, especially using the SPDIF:

- When playing a mp3 from winamp, it starts directly from the analog outputs. But the SPdif has a delay of 1 second or so before the song starts. (you don't hear the first second on the spdif)

- When listening to music and watching movies, the sound stutters or skips.

Tried to use the Microsof UAA HD audio driver, but the digital out option is greyed out. So I've only been able to use analog sound with this driver. And since my home theather system only supports spdif I can't use this driver.

oh and btw I tried the Bells applet (as mentioned in this thread) , and I'm having the distorted sound issue right away... (using ULI chipset 2.20 drivers)

2. Today I bought an Maxtor DiamondMax 10 300gb Sata2. I installed it in Sataport 4. In ports 1 and 2 are Maxtor DiamondMax 9 120gb Sata1 working as Raid 0.
The problem: while booting the ULI Raid Bios (1.1d) (M5288) is trying to detect all drives, however this takes much longer now with the 300gb harddisk installed (approx. 5 -10 minutes). Without the 300gb hd the system boots directly ...

2r4z0r2 · Mar 28, 2006, 04:45 AM

i have 2 issues...when i connect external usb disk the system will lock up, at random...sometimes right away, and somethines in a day

...the only solution was to put the disk in my firewire case and use it like that...another thing is the stuttering sound in games (which was i beleive explained by one user on the other a8r thread)...it was more noticable with 6.2 catakysts, so maybe they will resolve it in next releases

Kahlos · Mar 28, 2006, 09:40 AM

Well sorry but none of the above helps i've already tried all of what you've said. Although i don't have the 4.02 bios. Is it on the Asus global site cause i've been using the Eurpean. And yes i've done everything else that has been said before. So i will
1. Put new bios and new ULI drivers on
2. Put mem speed to normal
3. Only use the single drive
4. Try it without the partions first

If none of this works then i'll probably consider the mobo stuffed and get a replacement. I know its not the mem cause i tried it with different working RAM but it sitll didn't work. So its either RAID, hard drives or mobo. Anyone else know anything

Order 66 · Mar 28, 2006, 02:42 PM

I bought this board three weeks ago for my new system, but I have yet to set it up. So just to be clear, I have to run my RAM (Kingston Value) in 2t and let windows install the majority of the drivers, except the Marvell Yukon Ethernet drivers. I also plan to use a 150gb Seagate SATA, any issues there? The only overclocking I would do is raise the memory clock a little to accommodate for the loss in speed when using the 2t command rate. I would like to avoid issues before I meet them. Most of the board’s problems besides the memory sound like driver issues though.

csimon · Mar 28, 2006, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Order 66

I bought this board three weeks ago for my new system, but I have yet to set it up. So just to be clear, I have to run my RAM (Kingston Value) in 2t and let windows install the majority of the drivers, except the Marvell Yukon Ethernet drivers. I also plan to use a 150gb Seagate SATA, any issues there? The only overclocking I would do is raise the memory clock a little to accommodate for the loss in speed when using the 2t command rate. I would like to avoid issues before I meet them. Most of the board’s problems besides the memory sound like driver issues though.

You should be ok at 1t unless you overclock ...and then you can get away with a slight bit typically. You also need to press F6 in the beginning of the install of Windows to install the scsi (Uli) drivers.

Order 66 · Mar 29, 2006, 12:32 AM

Any other potiental issues that I can avoid? Does this board have a problem with Omega drivers or the SATA/RAID drivers made with the CD?

csimon · Mar 29, 2006, 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Order 66

Any other potiental issues that I can avoid? Does this board have a problem with Omega drivers or the SATA/RAID drivers made with the CD?

I'm not familiar with any Omega issues. Jpinard may have something to add to that concerning ati video.
However, if you use a bios prior to 0402 then I recommend sata/raid driver 1.0.5.2 or earlier ...if you use 0402 I recommend sata/raid driver 1.0.5.2a or later.

I use bios 0402. I download all of my drivers from the manufacturers sites individually and I always grab the latest. For the sata/raid driver I go to Uli electronics and use the Integrated 2.20 ...it was compressed in rar format last I checked so if you need the zip I can email it to you.
For the Marvell Yukon drivers I go to the marvell site ...the last drivers I got were 8.51.5.3.
The only other driver I installed besides the video drivers was the cooln'quiet driver from amd version 1.2.2.
I typically don't install the adi soundstorm drivers and you can only get those from the asus download site. There have been issues noted with this driver so I recommend you install this one last ...if you have issues there are a few workarounds we can try.

What processor will you be using?

jpinard · Mar 29, 2006, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csimon

I'm not familiar with any Omega issues. Jpinard may have something to add to that concerning ati video.
However, if you use a bios prior to 0402 then I recommend sata/raid driver 1.0.5.2 or earlier ...if you use 0402 I recommend sata/raid driver 1.0.5.2a or later.

I use bios 0402. I download all of my drivers from the manufacturers sites individually and I always grab the latest. For the sata/raid driver I go to Uli electronics and use the Integrated 2.20 ...it was compressed in rar format last I checked so if you need the zip I can email it to you.
For the Marvell Yukon drivers I go to the marvell site ...the last drivers I got were 8.51.5.3.
The only other driver I installed besides the video drivers was the cooln'quiet driver from amd version 1.2.2.
I typically don't install the adi soundstorm drivers and you can only get those from the asus download site. There have been issues noted with this driver so I recommend you install this one last ...if you have issues there are a few workarounds we can try.

What processor will you be using?

Go with the options csimon listed. I've never tried omegadrivers, but it woudln't matter what driver you use, since the BIOS issue can only be fixed by Asus.

fryspeak · Mar 29, 2006, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csimon

I typically don't install the adi soundstorm drivers and you can only get those from the asus download site. There have been issues noted with this driver so I recommend you install this one last ...if you have issues there are a few workarounds we can try.

I assume you mean the SoundMax drivers. You don't install these because you have an add in soundcard? I'm just curious because I haven't found drivers for the onboard sound from anywhere other than ASUS' site as well. To me they work better than other onboard audio solutions I've had, but they are kind of stale.

Anyone know if there are newer drivers for the AD 1986A audio chip on the A8R-MVP other than what is available on ASUS' website?

jpinard · Mar 29, 2006, 07:43 AM

Veridian - Ask Asus what's going on. BIOS 0402 has been missing for 2 days now oss North American servers and we're wondering if that BIOS that fixes the cpu issue is coming soon.

P@N · Mar 29, 2006, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fryspeak

I assume you mean the SoundMax drivers. You don't install these because you have an add in soundcard? I'm just curious because I haven't found drivers for the onboard sound from anywhere other than ASUS' site as well. To me they work better than other onboard audio solutions I've had, but they are kind of stale.

Anyone know if there are newer drivers for the AD 1986A audio chip on the A8R-MVP other than what is available on ASUS' website?

Hi Fryspeak,

So you don't have any problems with the onboard soundcard? Are you using the SPDIF or the analog connectors? Because as metioned on page 3, my sound has a delay and is skips from time to time when using the SPDIF. (with the ADI drivers).

@ CSImon

I read your post on the asus forum, that you are using the MS HD Uaa driver for the soundcard instead of the ADI soundmax driver. But are you able to use the spdif with the MS driver? Since the digital output option is greyed out when I use that driver...

Order 66 · Mar 29, 2006, 03:37 PM

I'm going to use an AMD 3200+ Venice core. I assume the 1.0.5.2 SATA drivers are included on the CD because I see ASUS has 1.0.5.2a only. Using those Marvell drivers, you have no problems with the connection dropouts that I have been reading about? I hope ASUS puts out that new BIOS so these issues can be resolved. The board is still on the market, so they can't abandon it entirely.

csimon · Mar 29, 2006, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fryspeak

I assume you mean the SoundMax drivers. You don't install these because you have an add in soundcard? I'm just curious because I haven't found drivers for the onboard sound from anywhere other than ASUS' site as well. To me they work better than other onboard audio solutions I've had, but they are kind of stale.

Anyone know if there are newer drivers for the AD 1986A audio chip on the A8R-MVP other than what is available on ASUS' website?

Yes I meant SoundMax drivers sorry. I don't use an add in card and I did have trouble with the onboard sound & drivers. I may try again when I feel like tackling trouble.

Ro0t3d · Mar 29, 2006, 09:11 PM

Csimon its right...dont use the ADI Soundmax drivers...let windows install the HD sound..files are on Windows...Win/system32..and Win/system...i did that and i have a nice and clear sound...anyway..i dont use spdif digital output so i dont know about it.

cya

Zwisch · Mar 30, 2006, 12:43 AM

Hello,

I've been experiencing the USB 2.0 freeze issues as well, but not at the same frequency some other people have seen.

Basically, my computer would freeze when I was playing HL2, with a USB 2.0 Flash Key inserted into any USB slot. If I didn't have the key inserted, the system was pretty stable. I followed the advice of others, and tried setting it to USB 1.1. That put the mean time to failure around 30 mins instead of 5 mins when playing games.

So, my uneducated guess is that it's a power issue. I believe that USB 2.0 is spec'ed to draws more current than 1.1.

Now here's the kicker. I didn't have the EZ_PLUG connected on my MB, because I figured what's the point if I'm not using crossfire? So, because it's a power issue, I figured I'd hook it up.

And now, my system is stable. I've set it back to USB 2.0. I'm playing HL2, with Prime95 running in the background, and with 3 USB devices attached just to check stability. I've been doing this for about 2 hours now, and it's still chugging away...

Anyone else not plug in the EZ_PLUG?

Cheers,
Zwisch

My spec for comparison: X2 3800, AIW X1800XL, 1 GB Kingston RAM, X-Fi, Sonata II, 450W PS.
USB attachments: MSFT USB Mouse and Keyboard, USB ATP Toughdrive, PocketPC charging through USB.

csimon · Mar 30, 2006, 01:58 AM

Stability at lower overclocks can be overcome usually ...it's on the upper end where we have issues.

~~Alien1~~ · Mar 30, 2006, 02:22 AM

Yeekkkkk
that Asus A8R-MVP is one of these sollutions with the worst problems to deal with

Is anything good with these mobo sollution to worth the money for (except the crossfire)

fryspeak · Mar 30, 2006, 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P@N

So you don't have any problems with the onboard soundcard? Are you using the SPDIF or the analog connectors? Because as metioned on page 3, my sound has a delay and is skips from time to time when using the SPDIF. (with the ADI drivers).

No, I'm not using the SPDIF output, just analog.

fryspeak · Mar 30, 2006, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zwisch

Hello,

I've been experiencing the USB 2.0 freeze issues as well, but not at the same frequency some other people have seen.

Basically, my computer would freeze when I was playing HL2, with a USB 2.0 Flash Key inserted into any USB slot. If I didn't have the key inserted, the system was pretty stable. I followed the advice of others, and tried setting it to USB 1.1. That put the mean time to failure around 30 mins instead of 5 mins when playing games.

So, my uneducated guess is that it's a power issue. I believe that USB 2.0 is spec'ed to draws more current than 1.1.

Now here's the kicker. I didn't have the EZ_PLUG connected on my MB, because I figured what's the point if I'm not using crossfire? So, because it's a power issue, I figured I'd hook it up.

And now, my system is stable. I've set it back to USB 2.0. I'm playing HL2, with Prime95 running in the background, and with 3 USB devices attached just to check stability. I've been doing this for about 2 hours now, and it's still chugging away...

Anyone else not plug in the EZ_PLUG?

Cheers,
Zwisch

My spec for comparison: X2 3800, AIW X1800XL, 1 GB Kingston RAM, X-Fi, Sonata II, 450W PS.
USB attachments: MSFT USB Mouse and Keyboard, USB ATP Toughdrive, PocketPC charging through USB.

I thought the EZ_PLUG was to be used only if your power supply was a 20 pin and not 24 pin when using Crossfire.

Mar 27, 2006, 09:28 AM	#31
Kahlos DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: England, Cirencester Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	Well thanks for the help guys will try that today or tommorow when i've got the time. I've been thinking its the hard drives for so long and it actually turns out to be the mobo. Damn windows can't tell you what there errors actually are. I will make a guide of how to get this mobo going when i get it going as long as i do

Mar 27, 2006, 09:21 PM	#36
jpinard DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 278 Rep Power: 0	Remind Asus, anyone investing in a Crossfire board is going to be an enthusiast. I don't know of any "non-enthusiast" who might buy 2 video cards to throw in their system. If they're worried about non-enthusiasts playing with the BIOS - they should be reminded unless you "have a clue" - you wouldn't be going to their website to "flash your BIOS". They should appreciate the fact we're not stupid... not try and treat us as such. __________________ [COLOR=blue]DFI LP UT NF4 Ultra-D ... AMD 64 FX-57 @2.85 Gig no extra voltage ... 2 Gig Patriot 3200LL RAM 2.5-3-2-5 1T ... ATI X1900 XTX ... Creative Labs X-Fi Xtrememusic ... Forton FX600-GLN 600 Watt[/COLOR]

Mar 28, 2006, 01:19 AM	#42
P@N DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	spdif and sata issue 1. I'm having sound issues, especially using the SPDIF: - When playing a mp3 from winamp, it starts directly from the analog outputs. But the SPdif has a delay of 1 second or so before the song starts. (you don't hear the first second on the spdif) - When listening to music and watching movies, the sound stutters or skips. Tried to use the Microsof UAA HD audio driver, but the digital out option is greyed out. So I've only been able to use analog sound with this driver. And since my home theather system only supports spdif I can't use this driver. oh and btw I tried the Bells applet (as mentioned in this thread) , and I'm having the distorted sound issue right away... (using ULI chipset 2.20 drivers) 2. Today I bought an Maxtor DiamondMax 10 300gb Sata2. I installed it in Sataport 4. In ports 1 and 2 are Maxtor DiamondMax 9 120gb Sata1 working as Raid 0. The problem: while booting the ULI Raid Bios (1.1d) (M5288) is trying to detect all drives, however this takes much longer now with the 300gb harddisk installed (approx. 5 -10 minutes). Without the 300gb hd the system boots directly ... __________________ Asus A8R-MVP, Opteron 146 (274x10), homemade watercooling, Gigabyte 6800GS (510x1250), 2x512mb Twinmos UTT, 2x Maxtor DiamondMax 9 120 gb hd (RAID 0), 1x Maxtor DiamondMax10 300gb Sata2, Tagan 480Watt Last edited by P@N; Mar 28, 2006 at 01:26 AM.

Mar 29, 2006, 07:43 AM	#51
jpinard DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 278 Rep Power: 0	Veridian - Ask Asus what's going on. BIOS 0402 has been missing for 2 days now oss North American servers and we're wondering if that BIOS that fixes the cpu issue is coming soon. __________________ [COLOR=blue]DFI LP UT NF4 Ultra-D ... AMD 64 FX-57 @2.85 Gig no extra voltage ... 2 Gig Patriot 3200LL RAM 2.5-3-2-5 1T ... ATI X1900 XTX ... Creative Labs X-Fi Xtrememusic ... Forton FX600-GLN 600 Watt[/COLOR]

Mar 29, 2006, 09:11 PM	#55
Ro0t3d DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 21 Rep Power: 0	Sound Drivers Csimon its right...dont use the ADI Soundmax drivers...let windows install the HD sound..files are on Windows...Win/system32..and Win/system...i did that and i have a nice and clear sound...anyway..i dont use spdif digital output so i dont know about it. cya

Mar 27, 2006, 10:12 AM	#32
baseball_55 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	Kahlos You have listed everything in your specs with exeption to your PSU!! make & model req'd - good advice so far - Partitions in Raid0???? Go with one stick of ram as suggested > also take the sound card out of the equation. Good luck on your fresh install. Lots of knowledge on this site > any questions give a shout. bb55

Mar 27, 2006, 07:43 PM	#33
*Veridian3* Administrator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cloaked Posts: 4,835 Rep Power: 174	Hi guys, havent forgotten about you. I'm going to catch up on this thread tomorrow and mail asus a response so if you have anything to be passed to them today is a good day to post it

Mar 27, 2006, 08:01 PM	#34
csimon DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 29 Rep Power: 0	More vcore and a 1t fix would be nice! =oP

Mar 27, 2006, 08:03 PM	#35
Kahlos DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: England, Cirencester Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	Well i didn't think that the rest of the computers specs were nessicary but any way they are: Silverstone Strider 560W PSU Antec P180 Case Thermaltake Big Typhoon CPU cooler Articsilver thermalpaste Artic cooler ATI Silencer 5 GPU cooler If theres anything else then ask me again. I thought i may as well mention the coolers just encase you thought it might be overheating. My partions are as follows: C: 5GB 4k cluster size D: 50GB 64k cluster size E: 160GB 64k cluster size F: 50GB 64k cluster size G: 100GB 64k cluster size H:10GB 32k cluster size I:50GB 64k cluster size J:5GB 64k cluster size L:40GB 64k cluster size The hard drives I don't recon are the problem but prove me wrong

Mar 27, 2006, 10:07 PM	#37
dehx DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 30 Rep Power: 0	hey J, tell me what you did to get that 2.6 out of your 3500 I have the same setup as you do, I can get my Venice 3500 to run at 2.6 (11x237, with a mem of 166) or 2.7 (300x9) with mem @ 133. What multi are you using? and how did you get it stable. So far highest stable FSB with 1T 1:1 mem timing for me is 227. 2.5 ghz

Mar 27, 2006, 11:01 PM	#38
Kahlos DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: England, Cirencester Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	Arh your guidence hasn't helped . I took the soundcard and 2nd bit of RAM out. I disabled pritty much everything on the bios and took off all forms of overclocking. I lowered the clock of the RAM. Then i installed windows pressed F6 to install the latest SATA/RAID drivers which i downloaded off the Asus site. I then pressed yes to both of the little pop ups saying that if you install this software it might make windows unstable. I configured it. Got into windows. Put partionmagic 8 on. Partioned my drives how i wanted. It rebooted did the partioning. Got into windows. It then said it needed to restart due to needing to after installing somein it didn't tell me about. I also changed the drive letters using disk manager while in windows. Rebooted and then tried to install SP2 only to be greeted by the familar 'NON-PAGED-AREA FAULT' message once again. Rebooted and then before i even get into windows 'NON-PAGED-AREA FAULT'. Tried safe mode but again 'NON-PAGED-AREA FAULT'.The error code being 0x00000050 (0xf7b11000,0x00000001,0xf7b60266,0x00000000) I was soooo looking foward to getting it going and now this . I really thought that it may work this time. Ah well. Any ideas . Oh and do i need those ULI drivers or summin. I downloaded them but its an exe and i thought you installed them while in windows. Looks like i will be dead by the time i get this going Anyone know if its my partioning. Or the cluster sizes or summin. ?

Mar 28, 2006, 12:37 AM	#41
baseball_55 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0	Kahlos Ok here is the deal, the first this after doing the format reinstall and after partioning the drive(which is not advisable cause it slows the machine down) is do a defrag and make sure u set during your partion make sure u set your primary C drive as active and do not change the primary partion to another letter. your boot sector is generally at the front and at the back of the drive, if u partion it u will not have the back portion of the boot sector. now the best way to do this is as follows, before installing windows and after u have pressed F6 and installed the drivers would be to set the PRIMARY partition as the size u wish and leave the rest for after u installed windows, and u can just use windows as the partition manager rather than useing partion magic, unless u are uncomfortable useing the windows solution. Have fun and hope this makes yer day bb55

Mar 28, 2006, 04:45 AM	#43
2r4z0r2 DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 30 Rep Power: 0	i have 2 issues...when i connect external usb disk the system will lock up, at random...sometimes right away, and somethines in a day ...the only solution was to put the disk in my firewire case and use it like that...another thing is the stuttering sound in games (which was i beleive explained by one user on the other a8r thread)...it was more noticable with 6.2 catakysts, so maybe they will resolve it in next releases

Mar 28, 2006, 09:40 AM	#44
Kahlos DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: England, Cirencester Posts: 11 Rep Power: 0	Well sorry but none of the above helps i've already tried all of what you've said. Although i don't have the 4.02 bios. Is it on the Asus global site cause i've been using the Eurpean. And yes i've done everything else that has been said before. So i will 1. Put new bios and new ULI drivers on 2. Put mem speed to normal 3. Only use the single drive 4. Try it without the partions first If none of this works then i'll probably consider the mobo stuffed and get a replacement. I know its not the mem cause i tried it with different working RAM but it sitll didn't work. So its either RAID, hard drives or mobo. Anyone else know anything

Mar 28, 2006, 02:42 PM	#45
Order 66 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	I bought this board three weeks ago for my new system, but I have yet to set it up. So just to be clear, I have to run my RAM (Kingston Value) in 2t and let windows install the majority of the drivers, except the Marvell Yukon Ethernet drivers. I also plan to use a 150gb Seagate SATA, any issues there? The only overclocking I would do is raise the memory clock a little to accommodate for the loss in speed when using the 2t command rate. I would like to avoid issues before I meet them. Most of the board’s problems besides the memory sound like driver issues though.

Mar 29, 2006, 12:32 AM	#47
Order 66 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	Any other potiental issues that I can avoid? Does this board have a problem with Omega drivers or the SATA/RAID drivers made with the CD?

Mar 29, 2006, 03:37 PM	#53
Order 66 DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 15 Rep Power: 0	I'm going to use an AMD 3200+ Venice core. I assume the 1.0.5.2 SATA drivers are included on the CD because I see ASUS has 1.0.5.2a only. Using those Marvell drivers, you have no problems with the connection dropouts that I have been reading about? I hope ASUS puts out that new BIOS so these issues can be resolved. The board is still on the market, so they can't abandon it entirely.

Mar 30, 2006, 12:43 AM	#56
Zwisch DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0	Hello, I've been experiencing the USB 2.0 freeze issues as well, but not at the same frequency some other people have seen. Basically, my computer would freeze when I was playing HL2, with a USB 2.0 Flash Key inserted into any USB slot. If I didn't have the key inserted, the system was pretty stable. I followed the advice of others, and tried setting it to USB 1.1. That put the mean time to failure around 30 mins instead of 5 mins when playing games. So, my uneducated guess is that it's a power issue. I believe that USB 2.0 is spec'ed to draws more current than 1.1. Now here's the kicker. I didn't have the EZ_PLUG connected on my MB, because I figured what's the point if I'm not using crossfire? So, because it's a power issue, I figured I'd hook it up. And now, my system is stable. I've set it back to USB 2.0. I'm playing HL2, with Prime95 running in the background, and with 3 USB devices attached just to check stability. I've been doing this for about 2 hours now, and it's still chugging away... Anyone else not plug in the EZ_PLUG? Cheers, Zwisch My spec for comparison: X2 3800, AIW X1800XL, 1 GB Kingston RAM, X-Fi, Sonata II, 450W PS. USB attachments: MSFT USB Mouse and Keyboard, USB ATP Toughdrive, PocketPC charging through USB.

Mar 30, 2006, 01:58 AM	#57
csimon DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 29 Rep Power: 0	Stability at lower overclocks can be overcome usually ...it's on the upper end where we have issues.

Mar 30, 2006, 02:22 AM	#58
~~Alien1~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Europe Posts: 365 Rep Power: 0	Yeekkkkk that Asus A8R-MVP is one of these sollutions with the worst problems to deal with Is anything good with these mobo sollution to worth the money for (except the crossfire)