Soldering an AGP Bus onto a Dimension 2400?

SatsukiMikata · Jun 12, 2006, 01:59 AM

Hey!

I would like to upgrade my video card. I'm currently running a Geforce FX 5700LE PCI 128mb (Well Overclocked). My alternative upgrade is BFG Geforce 6200 256Mb(~$160),

I seem to have an AGP area on my motherboard and an open exiting slot to the back of my computer, but there's no bus attached. I was wondering if I could bring my computer into a hardware shop and have a bus soldered on.

Could you tell me which speeds it runs at, aswell?

From Motherboard:
Motherboard Model: BLUFORD E139765
P/N: 411726100004

CPU-z Report:
Motherboard manufacturer: Dell Computer Corp.
Motherboard model: 0G1548, A00
BIOS vendor: Dell Computer Corporation
BIOS revision: A02
BIOS release date: 07/31/2003
Chipset: Intel i845G rev. A1
Southbridge: Intel 82801DB (ICH4) rev. 01
Sensor chip: ITE 5900

Dell Technicall Specifications: http://support.dell.com/support/edoc...m_en/specs.htm

When I was inquiring Dell about my motherboard some months back, they gave me this motherboard link: http://www.ibt.ca/mb840.htm

It appears to be the same, except there's not brown AGP bus on mine.

If you need any other information, please ask!!!

Thanks!

-Satsuki

Yousaif · Jun 12, 2006, 04:48 AM

You'd be better off, and it would probably cost less, to replace the motherboard.

BWX · Jun 12, 2006, 05:10 AM

Yeah replace mobo.. then it won't be a DELL anymore and you can upgrade at will, - put it in a new case, get a better PSU, etc.. best part is overclocking via the BIOS which is locked down tight in most Dells.

SatsukiMikata · Jun 12, 2006, 05:20 AM

Thanks,

I've only gots ~$200. I did some research and found out that my motherboard only supports a 2x/4x AGP bus only. The PCI cards are better than the 2x/4x AGP Cards. I'll just stick with my original plan and buy the BFG Geforce 6200oc 256Mb (NOT 3DFuzion).

Thanks for reading!

BWX · Jun 12, 2006, 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SatsukiMikata

Thanks,

I've only gots ~$200. I did some research and found out that my motherboard only supports a 2x/4x AGP bus only. The PCI cards are better than the 2x/4x AGP Cards. I'll just stick with my original plan and buy the BFG Geforce 6200oc 256Mb (NOT 3DFuzion).

Thanks for reading!

PCI cards are not better than AGP- don't waste your money on an expensive PCI card.

EDIT-

Spend 50 on a compatible mobo- (or less)... with an AGP slot.. then spend the rest on an AGP video card. You'll get MUCH better performance.

Matth · Jun 12, 2006, 04:00 PM

If you've got AGP 4x support, you can usually expect an 8x capable card to work at 4x, as the difference between 4x and 8x capability (AGP 2.0 & AGP 3.0) is not as massive as between 1-2x (AGP 1.0) and 4x - (3.3V specification cards cannot be used in modern motherboards and newer cards may not support 3.3v operation in older motherboards).

4x support implies 1.5v operation, and I've yet to see an 8x card that isn't (claimed to be) backward compatible with 4x. Chipset implementations may have other issues, of course.

As for modifying the motherboard -

- it MAY only be the slot connector which is not fitted, but there's probably several other components missing as well, such as the AGP voltage regulator and some bus drivers.

Replacing the motherboard is a better bet.

SatsukiMikata · Jun 12, 2006, 04:32 PM

Fantastic, Thanks!!!

I assumed I could only buy 2x/4x AGP cards. Thanks for filling me in.

I'll look for a replaceable motherboard! I only have a 200Watt PSU, I'm guessing I'll have to upgrade that aswell. I'll post my findings here, hope you can help more!

Thanks!
-Satsuki

SatsukiMikata · Jun 12, 2006, 05:00 PM

Gah, what a hassle!

I'll have to find a very specific motherboard and a new PSU and then a video card. Probaby costing about $200.

Should I just get the flipping 6200?

**MIG-31** · Jun 12, 2006, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SatsukiMikata

Gah, what a hassle!

Should I just get the flipping 6200?

And reading the above i would not waste money having anything added to a board,after all i should imagine a quality job would not be cheap.

If thats the PCI card then put it's simple. PCI cards was out before AGP so these few cards were made for the few who DON'T have an agp slot. so in effect you are going backwards and would be wasting you're cash in the long term.

It may be tough to find what you want within the budget you have,but surely it could be more cost effective to go a little over budget than buying a a pci card and then not being pleased with the performance..

At the end it's you're choice.

CDsDontBurn · Jun 12, 2006, 05:14 PM

spend a little more money on a new MoBo, PSU, and case, and gfx card. you will be much more satisfied having bought all that, than getting getting the best PCI card money can buy.

BTW, you upgrading because you want to, or you upgrading for playing games?

SatsukiMikata · Jun 12, 2006, 07:49 PM

Hey!

Here's what I have in mind so far.

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811147015
Motherboard: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MakeTrack=true

I also need cooling for my CPU.

Which totals to: $92.32

My RAM, Procesor, Hardrive, Floppy Drive, and CD Drives can all transfer. I hope. Lol.

RAM: 2 x 512 DDR333 (PC2700)
Processor: P4 2.2Ghz Socket 478/400Mhz/L2-512Kb
Hard Drive/CD-ROM: IDE

I'll only have about $100 left for a video card! But the motherboard is very expandable.

How do I know if the motherboard will fit into the case? Is every ATX Motherboard fit into an "ATX Motherboard"?

BWX · Jun 12, 2006, 09:36 PM

Yeah ATX is a standard.. It will most definitely fit. At least this way you will be able to expand and upgrade..

You can spend a little at a time and eventually get the performance you want. It is fun to build your own rig too.. it is much easier that you think too. Just look on-line for help, and make sure to find some guides and just take your time each step of the process.

Installing the mobo into the case, connecting the power buttons, etc from the case to the mobo (easy)- installing the CPU, installing components.. wring it up, and that's about it. You will be surprised. how easy it really is. Doing it this way will save you thousands of dollars in the future too, compared to buying complete systems over ad over again.

**MIG-31** · Jun 12, 2006, 09:51 PM

PC's are not difficult to build providing you show some respect & care to the motherboards manuals instructions.... always build and double check everything sits correct & all cables are correct before powering up the pc.

But you're question about ATX this i self explanatory as a rule. ATX Mobos will Fit any ATX case's but some cases does offer a little more space (for cooling etc) than others,but all that may mean is a larger case.

H3X4D3C1M4L · Jun 12, 2006, 11:09 PM

..... just in theory this isn't possible, there's no core logic support for it in the northbridge if it isn't there (makes no sense to put it in then not leave the AGP Slot open)...

Logla · Jun 12, 2006, 11:37 PM

If you had the money it would cost you way more than the board is worth.
The number of pins in an AGP interface is rather large, and these all need to be heated at the same time in order to install the AGP slot. Its virtually impossible unless you have some very expensive bespoke equipment.
Definately the best course of action would be new mobo and video card. The difference you will get from that upgrade will be very noticeable and put a large grin on your face.

BWX · Jun 13, 2006, 01:38 AM

SatsukiMikata do you live in the US?

I am selling my X800XL AGP for around 100 bucks..

I ran it for about a year at 420/545 - I bet that would give your system a good kick up the ass.

edit..

=1:596]http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_attrib.php/page_id=5/form_keyword=x800xl/mode=g_us_e_s/skd=1/rd=1/popup2[]=1:596
hmm.. maybe I shoud rethink that price.. LOL.. I need sell it though.

CDsDontBurn · Jun 13, 2006, 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWX

SatsukiMikata do you live in the US?

I am selling my X800XL AGP for around 100 bucks..

I ran it for about a year at 420/545 - I bet that would give your system a good kick up the ass.

edit..

=1:596]http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_attrib.php/page_id=5/form_keyword=x800xl/mode=g_us_e_s/skd=1/rd=1/popup2[]=1:596
hmm.. maybe I shoud rethink that price.. LOL.. I need sell it though.

$100 isn't a bad price

. For $100 I'd take it if i could right now.....actually i could, but then i'd be dumb

BWX · Jun 13, 2006, 02:09 AM

If someone needs it, it is a great deal I think.. It is a nice little card (big card I should say) LOL...

I think the warranty is still active for another year at least. I got it when ATI warranties were 3 years.. It has the VIVO chip on it too.. I was thinking about keeping it for an HTPC, but if I ever built one I would just get a stand-alone TV in out card I think.

I think a guy like who started this thread could really appreciate the speed it has..

It will play FEAR, COD2, etc..

I hate seeing a card sitting in a cardboard box while someone could be OC'ing it and thrashing it around.

[hobo]eclipse · Jun 13, 2006, 02:14 AM

x1600's can be had for about $120-130. youd see massive improvements with the new board and any x800 or x1xxx card. I think the reason the x800xl cost so much is they really arent making them anymore,

BWX · Jun 13, 2006, 03:25 AM

Yeah and after I look around the PCIe X800XL's are a LOT cheaper than the AGP versions..

Matth · Jun 13, 2006, 04:29 PM

One BIG problem!

A Dell OEM Windows XP is probably not transferable - strictly speaking, bundled OEM is NOT, but I believe they clamped down on activation that used to be possible.

BWX · Jun 13, 2006, 07:32 PM

Oh well- there are ways around that too.

SatsukiMikata · Jun 13, 2006, 09:45 PM

Hey!

Can someone confirm that my hardware is compatible with the motherboard and case I would like to buy?

My system:
RAM: 2 x 512 DDR333 (PC2700)
Processor: P4 2.2Ghz Socket 478/400Mhz/L2-512Kb
Hard Drive: 1 IDE
CD-ROM: 2 IDE
Floppy: 1

New Motherboard Specs: http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Product...=Specification

Mobo:
Motherboard($31):http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MakeTrack=true

Case($52): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811166023

CPU Heatsink and Fan($29): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835151121
(Bought a good one for future upgrades)

120mm Case Fan($9): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835200008

Totals to: $119.34

Can you double check and make sure these will operate with each other?

Is there a standard USB connection on the motherboard for front external USBs?

Please, ask for any other information. And small suggestions.

Thanks!

-Satsuki

H3X4D3C1M4L · Jun 13, 2006, 10:22 PM

It should work. Though that fan looks like a piece of crap... 77 CFM at 35dbA for a 1200MM fan is REALLY poor.

SatsukiMikata · Jun 14, 2006, 02:05 AM

Hey, BWX,

I live in Pennsylvania, USA.

Can you get the exact model? Can you tell me which accessories you have for the video card? I should have about $110-$130 once I have all of this bought. Would you be willing to sell it at that price?

Will the OS be the only incompatible thing when I transfer?

Thanks for your help so far. Don't forget to awnswer my previous questions! : )

BWX · Jun 15, 2006, 01:08 AM

I dunno about the OS.. it is a regular ATI X800XL AGP (made by ATI).. I have original box and all accessories..
I have a pic of it.. you can have for 100 bucks + shipping if you want.. I can ship it US PS with 100 insurance - 2 to 3 day w/ delivery confirmation for about 11 dollars I think.

Sitting next to an EVGA 7800GTX OC

This shows you how big it is in a case.. almost as big as this card..

You'll need a PayPal account attached to a bank account though.. or you can pay with a credit card via PayPal but it will cost like 8 or so dollars more.

CDsDontBurn · Jun 15, 2006, 01:48 AM

damn BWX. after looking at the pic you put up of the card comparison, that for sure as all hell wouldn't be able to fit in my case. well, it could, but i wouldn't have any room for anything more than 1 HDD

BWX · Jun 15, 2006, 02:08 AM

yeah it is a very big card... My case is a normal sized mid tower case from 4 years ago though.. Nothing special at all. You just have to be neat about IDE cables (if you have any) and other wiring. My 7900GTX is gargantuan and it fits no prob.

[hobo]eclipse · Jun 15, 2006, 02:10 AM

i can vouche for BWX's reliability, i had a good transaction with him about a month ago and all went smoot as could be. Thats an awsome deal on that card and you will see mad performance increases over your old system with it. Go for it! should be able to play most new games with it.

CD's you not running that x800xt pe any more or what ?

BWX · Jun 15, 2006, 02:14 AM

Thanks man.

Yeah he will have a big increase no doubt.. it will be my 3rd on-line sale ever. LOL All three at DH.

Jun 12, 2006, 01:59 AM	#1
SatsukiMikata DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pennsylvania, USA Posts: 38 Rep Power: 0	Computer Upgrade: Need Assistance. Hey! I would like to upgrade my video card. I'm currently running a Geforce FX 5700LE PCI 128mb (Well Overclocked). My alternative upgrade is BFG Geforce 6200 256Mb(~$160), I seem to have an AGP area on my motherboard and an open exiting slot to the back of my computer, but there's no bus attached. I was wondering if I could bring my computer into a hardware shop and have a bus soldered on. Could you tell me which speeds it runs at, aswell? From Motherboard: Motherboard Model: BLUFORD E139765 P/N: 411726100004 CPU-z Report: Motherboard manufacturer: Dell Computer Corp. Motherboard model: 0G1548, A00 BIOS vendor: Dell Computer Corporation BIOS revision: A02 BIOS release date: 07/31/2003 Chipset: Intel i845G rev. A1 Southbridge: Intel 82801DB (ICH4) rev. 01 Sensor chip: ITE 5900 Dell Technicall Specifications: http://support.dell.com/support/edoc...m_en/specs.htm When I was inquiring Dell about my motherboard some months back, they gave me this motherboard link: http://www.ibt.ca/mb840.htm It appears to be the same, except there's not brown AGP bus on mine. If you need any other information, please ask!!! Thanks! -Satsuki Last edited by SatsukiMikata; Jun 14, 2006 at 02:07 AM.

Jun 12, 2006, 05:10 AM	#3
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,665 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	Yeah replace mobo.. then it won't be a DELL anymore and you can upgrade at will, - put it in a new case, get a better PSU, etc.. best part is overclocking via the BIOS which is locked down tight in most Dells. __________________

Jun 12, 2006, 04:00 PM	#6
Matth Flash Banner Hater Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: UK Posts: 3,411 Rep Power: 91 System Specs	If you've got AGP 4x support, you can usually expect an 8x capable card to work at 4x, as the difference between 4x and 8x capability (AGP 2.0 & AGP 3.0) is not as massive as between 1-2x (AGP 1.0) and 4x - (3.3V specification cards cannot be used in modern motherboards and newer cards may not support 3.3v operation in older motherboards). 4x support implies 1.5v operation, and I've yet to see an 8x card that isn't (claimed to be) backward compatible with 4x. Chipset implementations may have other issues, of course. As for modifying the motherboard - - it MAY only be the slot connector which is not fitted, but there's probably several other components missing as well, such as the AGP voltage regulator and some bus drivers. Replacing the motherboard is a better bet. __________________ Mary had a little lamb, Her father shot it dead Now Mary takes her lamb to school, Between two crusts of bread

Jun 12, 2006, 05:14 PM	#10
CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,458 Rep Power: 202 System Specs	spend a little more money on a new MoBo, PSU, and case, and gfx card. you will be much more satisfied having bought all that, than getting getting the best PCI card money can buy. BTW, you upgrading because you want to, or you upgrading for playing games? __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Jun 12, 2006, 07:49 PM	Thread Starter #11
SatsukiMikata DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pennsylvania, USA Posts: 38 Rep Power: 0	Hey! Here's what I have in mind so far. Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811147015 Motherboard: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MakeTrack=true I also need cooling for my CPU. Which totals to: $92.32 My RAM, Procesor, Hardrive, Floppy Drive, and CD Drives can all transfer. I hope. Lol. RAM: 2 x 512 DDR333 (PC2700) Processor: P4 2.2Ghz Socket 478/400Mhz/L2-512Kb Hard Drive/CD-ROM: IDE I'll only have about $100 left for a video card! But the motherboard is very expandable. How do I know if the motherboard will fit into the case? Is every ATX Motherboard fit into an "ATX Motherboard"? Last edited by SatsukiMikata; Jun 12, 2006 at 08:14 PM.

Jun 12, 2006, 05:20 AM	Thread Starter #4
SatsukiMikata DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pennsylvania, USA Posts: 38 Rep Power: 0	Thanks, I've only gots ~$200. I did some research and found out that my motherboard only supports a 2x/4x AGP bus only. The PCI cards are better than the 2x/4x AGP Cards. I'll just stick with my original plan and buy the BFG Geforce 6200oc 256Mb (NOT 3DFuzion). Thanks for reading!

Jun 12, 2006, 04:32 PM	Thread Starter #7
SatsukiMikata DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pennsylvania, USA Posts: 38 Rep Power: 0	Fantastic, Thanks!!! I assumed I could only buy 2x/4x AGP cards. Thanks for filling me in. I'll look for a replaceable motherboard! I only have a 200Watt PSU, I'm guessing I'll have to upgrade that aswell. I'll post my findings here, hope you can help more! Thanks! -Satsuki

Jun 12, 2006, 05:00 PM	Thread Starter #8
SatsukiMikata DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pennsylvania, USA Posts: 38 Rep Power: 0	Gah, what a hassle! I'll have to find a very specific motherboard and a new PSU and then a video card. Probaby costing about $200. Should I just get the flipping 6200?

Jun 12, 2006, 09:36 PM	#12
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,665 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	Yeah ATX is a standard.. It will most definitely fit. At least this way you will be able to expand and upgrade.. You can spend a little at a time and eventually get the performance you want. It is fun to build your own rig too.. it is much easier that you think too. Just look on-line for help, and make sure to find some guides and just take your time each step of the process. Installing the mobo into the case, connecting the power buttons, etc from the case to the mobo (easy)- installing the CPU, installing components.. wring it up, and that's about it. You will be surprised. how easy it really is. Doing it this way will save you thousands of dollars in the future too, compared to buying complete systems over ad over again. __________________

Jun 12, 2006, 09:51 PM	#13
MIG-31 HardwareHeaven News Mod Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Nottingham,UK Posts: 55,783 Rep Power: 444 System Specs	PC's are not difficult to build providing you show some respect & care to the motherboards manuals instructions.... always build and double check everything sits correct & all cables are correct before powering up the pc. But you're question about ATX this i self explanatory as a rule. ATX Mobos will Fit any ATX case's but some cases does offer a little more space (for cooling etc) than others,but all that may mean is a larger case. __________________ Please Post Your News Submissions Here

Jun 12, 2006, 11:09 PM	#14
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	..... just in theory this isn't possible, there's no core logic support for it in the northbridge if it isn't there (makes no sense to put it in then not leave the AGP Slot open)...

Jun 12, 2006, 11:37 PM	#15
Logla HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,311 Rep Power: 62	If you had the money it would cost you way more than the board is worth. The number of pins in an AGP interface is rather large, and these all need to be heated at the same time in order to install the AGP slot. Its virtually impossible unless you have some very expensive bespoke equipment. Definately the best course of action would be new mobo and video card. The difference you will get from that upgrade will be very noticeable and put a large grin on your face.

Jun 13, 2006, 01:38 AM	#16
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,665 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	SatsukiMikata do you live in the US? I am selling my X800XL AGP for around 100 bucks.. I ran it for about a year at 420/545 - I bet that would give your system a good kick up the ass. edit.. =1:596]http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_attrib.php/page_id=5/form_keyword=x800xl/mode=g_us_e_s/skd=1/rd=1/popup2[]=1:596 hmm.. maybe I shoud rethink that price.. LOL.. I need sell it though. __________________ Last edited by BWX; Jun 13, 2006 at 01:44 AM.

Jun 13, 2006, 02:09 AM	#18
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,665 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	If someone needs it, it is a great deal I think.. It is a nice little card (big card I should say) LOL... I think the warranty is still active for another year at least. I got it when ATI warranties were 3 years.. It has the VIVO chip on it too.. I was thinking about keeping it for an HTPC, but if I ever built one I would just get a stand-alone TV in out card I think. I think a guy like who started this thread could really appreciate the speed it has.. It will play FEAR, COD2, etc.. I hate seeing a card sitting in a cardboard box while someone could be OC'ing it and thrashing it around. __________________

Jun 13, 2006, 02:14 AM	#19
[hobo]eclipse ...just bummin 'round Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,897 Rep Power: 107 System Specs	x1600's can be had for about $120-130. youd see massive improvements with the new board and any x800 or x1xxx card. I think the reason the x800xl cost so much is they really arent making them anymore,

Jun 13, 2006, 03:25 AM	#20
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,665 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	Yeah and after I look around the PCIe X800XL's are a LOT cheaper than the AGP versions.. __________________

Jun 13, 2006, 04:29 PM	#21
Matth Flash Banner Hater Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: UK Posts: 3,411 Rep Power: 91 System Specs	One BIG problem! A Dell OEM Windows XP is probably not transferable - strictly speaking, bundled OEM is NOT, but I believe they clamped down on activation that used to be possible. __________________ Mary had a little lamb, Her father shot it dead Now Mary takes her lamb to school, Between two crusts of bread

Jun 13, 2006, 07:32 PM	#22
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,665 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	Oh well- there are ways around that too. __________________

Jun 13, 2006, 09:45 PM	Thread Starter #23
SatsukiMikata DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pennsylvania, USA Posts: 38 Rep Power: 0	Hey! Can someone confirm that my hardware is compatible with the motherboard and case I would like to buy? My system: RAM: 2 x 512 DDR333 (PC2700) Processor: P4 2.2Ghz Socket 478/400Mhz/L2-512Kb Hard Drive: 1 IDE CD-ROM: 2 IDE Floppy: 1 New Motherboard Specs: http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Product...=Specification Mobo: Motherboard($31):http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MakeTrack=true Case($52): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811166023 CPU Heatsink and Fan($29): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835151121 (Bought a good one for future upgrades) 120mm Case Fan($9): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835200008 *Totals to: $119.34 Can you double check and make sure these will operate with each other? Is there a standard USB connection on the motherboard for front external USBs? Please, ask for any other information. And small suggestions. Thanks! -Satsuki Last edited by SatsukiMikata; Jun 13, 2006 at 09:57 PM.*

Jun 13, 2006, 10:22 PM	#24
H3X4D3C1M4L DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,794 Rep Power: 0	It should work. Though that fan looks like a piece of crap... 77 CFM at 35dbA for a 1200MM fan is REALLY poor.

Jun 14, 2006, 02:05 AM	Thread Starter #25
SatsukiMikata DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pennsylvania, USA Posts: 38 Rep Power: 0	Hey, BWX, I live in Pennsylvania, USA. Can you get the exact model? Can you tell me which accessories you have for the video card? I should have about $110-$130 once I have all of this bought. Would you be willing to sell it at that price? Will the OS be the only incompatible thing when I transfer? Thanks for your help so far. Don't forget to awnswer my previous questions! : ) Last edited by SatsukiMikata; Jun 14, 2006 at 03:21 PM.

Jun 15, 2006, 01:08 AM	#26
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,665 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	I dunno about the OS.. it is a regular ATI X800XL AGP (made by ATI).. I have original box and all accessories.. I have a pic of it.. you can have for 100 bucks + shipping if you want.. I can ship it US PS with 100 insurance - 2 to 3 day w/ delivery confirmation for about 11 dollars I think. Sitting next to an EVGA 7800GTX OC This shows you how big it is in a case.. almost as big as this card.. You'll need a PayPal account attached to a bank account though.. or you can pay with a credit card via PayPal but it will cost like 8 or so dollars more. __________________

Jun 15, 2006, 01:48 AM	#27
CDsDontBurn 127.0.0.1 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 22,458 Rep Power: 202 System Specs	damn BWX. after looking at the pic you put up of the card comparison, that for sure as all hell wouldn't be able to fit in my case. well, it could, but i wouldn't have any room for anything more than 1 HDD __________________ Her First Day \| A year later

Jun 15, 2006, 02:08 AM	#28
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,665 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	yeah it is a very big card... My case is a normal sized mid tower case from 4 years ago though.. Nothing special at all. You just have to be neat about IDE cables (if you have any) and other wiring. My 7900GTX is gargantuan and it fits no prob. __________________

Jun 15, 2006, 02:10 AM	#29
[hobo]eclipse ...just bummin 'round Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,897 Rep Power: 107 System Specs	i can vouche for BWX's reliability, i had a good transaction with him about a month ago and all went smoot as could be. Thats an awsome deal on that card and you will see mad performance increases over your old system with it. Go for it! should be able to play most new games with it. CD's you not running that x800xt pe any more or what ?

Jun 15, 2006, 02:14 AM	#30
BWX unplugged Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: USNY Posts: 19,665 Rep Power: 109 System Specs	Thanks man. Yeah he will have a big increase no doubt.. it will be my 3rd on-line sale ever. LOL All three at DH. __________________