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Old Apr 3, 2003, 02:04 PM   #1
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DVD Burners: Plus or Minus?

I have recently purchased a Canon digital camcorder (which I love..ZR65). In order to distribute the new masterpieces of my children to relatives, I need to buy a DVD burner (I still have many relatives that don't like trying to view videos on their computers). Since there are competing and incompatible technologies, can anyone point me to a place where the advantages of DVD+ vs. DVD- are discussed. I am suprised that there is so little I have found on the newer burners on the net! Since Newegg has current generation burners in the $200 -$250 range, I am not inclined to double that price for one of the combination burners now available. Thanks
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Old Apr 3, 2003, 02:06 PM   #2
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I'm in the same market for the same thing for the same reason I'll be following this thread and would like to add if anyone knows of any good deal$ please post up
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Old Apr 3, 2003, 02:15 PM Threadstarter Thread Starter   #3
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My choices on Burners

I am looking at three burners at Newegg. All have free shipping:

NEC 4x DVD+ (OEM).....$195

Mitsumi 4x DVD+ (retail)...$212

Asus 4x DVD- (retail).....$254.99
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Old Apr 3, 2003, 02:47 PM   #4
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I think there was a post about DVD writers that sorta went into the differences of DVD+R, DVD-R and the drives needed to do BOTH.

I'll see if I can find that post (OK Now! Which forum was that? )

Ah, here it is:

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthre...8458#post88458

It contains a link to a good article that may answer some of your questions.

Hope that's helpful.

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Old Apr 3, 2003, 02:54 PM   #5
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More and More DVD drives will support DVD+ so i suggest you get a +

Altough Sony and I also believe another company ( i think LG) made a DVD+ R/RW
which can handle all of them. Dont know about the price.

@ Work I'm using an HP Dvdwriter DVD200e which is +R/RW writer.
The problem i had was when burning + R/RW's i could not read them in some DVD drives cause they didn't support the +

Ofcourse for every problem there is a solution hehe

dvdbitsetter!!! what a great tool!!!

It converts a written (or unwritten) DVD to whatever format you want. I tried it with my HP and turned a +R/RW in to a -R and it work, and it was done in about 10 seconds.

and best of all --> its free

Good luck choosing the right one m8
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HERE is some information you might find usefull also.
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Old Apr 14, 2003, 04:30 AM   #7
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Here is some pages to check;

http://www.dvdplusrw.org/index.html

http://www.dvdrhelp.com/

http://www.burnworld.com/

DVD+RW offers quick background formatting

When you want to use your rewrtitable DVD discs, the discs needs to be formatted first. With DVD+RW, this format procedure is performed in the background, invisible to the user, and nearly without consuming any time. The drive starts formatting a small portion of disc first (lead-in area and part of the data area, required to start writing). It then resumes for the remaining portion automatically in the background when there is no writing or reading operation (Background Formatting). This feature enables to start initial writing immediately. Background formatting shall be suspended should additional reading/writing be required. Discs that are only partially formatted can be ejected from the drive, maintaining the compatibility with existing DVD-ROM drives, and formatting automatically continues when you re-insert the disc. Older DVD-RW drives required you to format a full disc at 1x speed, so you had to wait for over one hour before you can start recording to the disc. With some newer -RW drives you can use some form of a software application to perform a quick format which has to be initiated by the user. It cannot be interrupted, so you have to wait for it to complete before you can start writing to the disc.
DVD+RW is the only recordable DVD system that may optionally offer drives with Mount Rainier-based drag-'n-drop support, also known as EasyWrite. The Mount Rainier specification was set up by Microsoft, Compaq/HP, Philips and Sony, and was originally designed for new CD-RW drives. For DVD+RW, the group created the DVD+MRW specification. The specification allows for various advantages over normal packet-writing software, such as full random access, Defect Management handled by the drive (or by a dedicated Read-Only device driver), Physical formatting performed in background by the drive (without interaction with the host computer), the disc will be available for use immediately after insertion and ejecting the disc before the Background Formatting process is completed is possible. As Mt. Rainier support will be a standard feature of upcoming Microsoft Windows releases, you won't need any software application to use your DVD+RW discs as big removable floppy disks. Drives with DVD+MRW support are currently appearing on the market and when they become available, you may use the same DVD+RW discs you already use with your current DVD+RW drive. DVD-RW will never offer Mt. Rainier (EasyWrite) support, as it is not part of its specification.
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Old Apr 14, 2003, 05:33 AM   #8
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The Sony DRU500AX is the best DVD-RW out as it supports all the DVD formats.
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I bought this sucker a while back. It's a dvd-rw with support for dvd-ram's, which aren't very widely supported. Still very useful since they read/write like harddrives. It writes dvd-r's at 2x, dvd-rw's at 1x, cd-r's at 12x, and cd-rw's at 8x. A great drive for $175! Also, a 50 pack of 2x dvd-r's is just $40, so I'd say the minus is good for its price right now, or at least the 2x media is. I know 4x is nice, but they're pricey, so I'm will to wait twice as long if it means I'll save some money (it's only ~30 minutes for a full 4.7gb burn anyway).
I've burned 10 dvd-r's so far, 1 died because of a blue screen . The lack of a dvd-player for my TV is keeping me from attempting to burn "home movies," but I think the minus is more supported in dvd-players. I haven't read the posted links so I might be wrong about that.....

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edit: crap, links don't want to work properly.... Anyway, you should be able to navigate the website. (click on "Media" to find the dvd-r cakebox) My dvd-rw drive is the "Matsushita Multi-Drive DVD-Ram DVD-R/RW CD-R/RW" and 50 pack dvd-r's is "OptoDisc 4.7GB DVD-R Blank Media General 50-Pack"

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Here is the fastest dvd burner out for +R HP Dvd300i
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