PCI wireless card- Computer does not start on insertion

interspaced · Sep 22, 2007, 12:11 PM

As title suggests putting in a Belkin F5D7000 in the pci slot causes the computer not to power up at all.
The motherboard light shows that it is on but the LED on the pci card is not on. Seems like there's something wrong with the pci slots.
It's possible it's a cable problem since computer had to be reassembled recently though I can't think what.

Any suggestions greatly appreciated.

Matth · Sep 22, 2007, 05:52 PM

Anything else PCI to cross check with, would an old PCI graphics run as a secondary?, or is there a PCI modem card?

Uh-oh!
Belkin Computers - Wireless Desktop Network Card 54Mbps 802.11G SOHO Networking - F5D7000 - Ratings and User Reviews
See the Dec 30, 2004 by chrisschultz

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I purchased a Linksys router (I don't skimp on routers.) And two Belkin 7000 Wireless NIC's. (Saved $40.00)Tried to put internet into my kids rooms for Christmas. Software loads fine. Insert Nic, computer hangs at boot. Went online, no mention of problem at Belcons site, Called Tech support, not a clue, read me instructions out of a book. (I could hear the pages turning.) Several calls later I am tired of wasting my cell minutes for some moron to go get a manager. As a CCNA, I have lots of parts around, Changed Motherboard, processor, video card, etc... Same problem. Checked the net. HUNDREDS of people have reported this same problem over the last year. But Belkin continues to sell the product, and has no response to the conflict. I went back to Staples, threw a fit, paid the differance, purchased Netgear Wireless NIC,s, Popped them in, ran fine. I will NEVER purchase another BELKIN product again. It's not worth the few dollars I saved.

interspaced · Sep 22, 2007, 07:27 PM

Getting it replaced though my symptoms are different. The guy above managed to turn his pc on, an improvement over my situation where that doesn't happen.
I'm getting hold of a replacement and see if that helps.

Dyre Straits · Sep 23, 2007, 09:56 AM

Not exactly sure which ASUS mobo you've got from your profile. But, have you tried swapping PCI devices around?

interspaced · Sep 23, 2007, 10:16 AM

Afraid I have no PCI devices to spare. I find it hard to believe though that all the slots are faulty so I think it must be the card. I'll let you know. Though i've never known a component causing the pc to not turn on especially when it's non essential to its function.

Dyre Straits · Sep 23, 2007, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by interspaced

Afraid I have no PCI devices to spare. I find it hard to believe though that all the slots are faulty so I think it must be the card. I'll let you know. Though i've never known a component causing the pc to not turn on especially when it's non essential to its function.

You might try Disabling the onboard NIC before installing the PCI card.

What I was getting at is, if you have other PCI cards installed, try swapping them around physically. It could possibly be an IRQ conflict. That doesn't usually keep a system from completely starting, but, it's worth checking out.

interspaced · Sep 25, 2007, 11:52 AM

tried the replacement- same problem

. How do I check if it's an IRQ conflict?

>GSXR<mrbusa · Sep 25, 2007, 02:21 PM

Did you clear the CMOS and try?
Was the replacement the same brand and model of WiFi card?
If it is doing the same thing in all PCI slots then it will not be an IRQ conflict. Even if it was it would not keep the board from posting.
Does your MOBO have an on board NIC? If so, did you disable it in the BIOS?

Matth · Sep 25, 2007, 04:59 PM

If it was IRQ, you'd probably find one slot it would work in, but with APIC mode (IRQ's > 15 available) conflicts are not as common as in old PIC mode with 4 shared IRQs across all PCI.

Yes, PCI should share IRQs without problems, but in practice, some devices just were not good at it.

One thing, maybe ensure that the BIOS is set to "Plug & Play OS", so it will rely on the OS to sort out non-boot bevices.

interspaced · Sep 25, 2007, 06:41 PM

Thanks for all the suggestions so far

I'll check out all your suggestions out and report tomorrow.

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Does your MOBO have an on board NIC? If so, did you disable it in the BIOS?

Could you clarify what a NIC is? Sorry i'm not so hot on these terms, it's a new area for me.

procupine14 · Sep 26, 2007, 05:32 AM

NIC- network interface card......does your board have onboard ethernet port etc?

H3X4D3C1M4L · Sep 30, 2007, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Matth

If it was IRQ, you'd probably find one slot it would work in, but with APIC mode (IRQ's > 15 available) conflicts are not as common as in old PIC mode with 4 shared IRQs across all PCI.

Yes, PCI should share IRQs without problems, but in practice, some devices just were not good at it.

One thing, maybe ensure that the BIOS is set to "Plug & Play OS", so it will rely on the OS to sort out non-boot bevices.

I agree with everything but the last point - Windows is horrible at setting up IRQ's and often forces random devices to share when it doesn't have to. Its something to try but I doubt it, I think the card is just bad.

Jeeze, reminds me of the days of ISA cards where you had to plan out which card went where and which IRQ went where on a whiteboard and then jumper it all and then find out it didn't work and do it all over

good times...

Sep 22, 2007, 12:11 PM	#1
interspaced DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 287 Rep Power: 0	PCI wireless card- Computer does not start on insertion As title suggests putting in a Belkin F5D7000 in the pci slot causes the computer not to power up at all. The motherboard light shows that it is on but the LED on the pci card is not on. Seems like there's something wrong with the pci slots. It's possible it's a cable problem since computer had to be reassembled recently though I can't think what. Any suggestions greatly appreciated.

Sep 25, 2007, 04:59 PM	#9
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Sep 22, 2007, 07:27 PM	Thread Starter #3
interspaced DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 287 Rep Power: 0	Getting it replaced though my symptoms are different. The guy above managed to turn his pc on, an improvement over my situation where that doesn't happen. I'm getting hold of a replacement and see if that helps.

Sep 23, 2007, 10:16 AM	Thread Starter #5
interspaced DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 287 Rep Power: 0	Afraid I have no PCI devices to spare. I find it hard to believe though that all the slots are faulty so I think it must be the card. I'll let you know. Though i've never known a component causing the pc to not turn on especially when it's non essential to its function.

Sep 25, 2007, 11:52 AM	Thread Starter #7
interspaced DriverHeaven Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 287 Rep Power: 0	tried the replacement- same problem . How do I check if it's an IRQ conflict?

Sep 25, 2007, 02:21 PM	#8
>GSXR<mrbusa im a FREAK Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 2,107 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Did you clear the CMOS and try? Was the replacement the same brand and model of WiFi card? If it is doing the same thing in all PCI slots then it will not be an IRQ conflict. Even if it was it would not keep the board from posting. Does your MOBO have an on board NIC? If so, did you disable it in the BIOS?