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Old Mar 16, 2008, 12:20 AM   #1
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??? I'd need your thoughts on this :) on my before I buy next month pc

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CASE: ($20 off Mail-in Rebate) X-Cruiser Mid-Tower 420W Case W/ WINDOW, MultiMeter Display & Control (Silver Color)
with 600watt psu
CPU: (Quad-Core)Intel® Core™ 2 Quad Q6600 @ 2.4GHz 1066FSB 8MB L2 Cache 64-bit
MOTHERBOARD: (QX9650 Support) Asus P5K Premium/WIFI-AP Intel P35 CrossFire Chipset LGA775 FSB1333 DDR2/800 Mainboard w/GbLAN, Internal RAID, USB2.0, IEEE1394, & 7.1Audio
MEMORY: (Req.DDR2 MainBoard)3GB (3x1GB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Memory (Corsair Value Select)
VIDEO CARD: ATI Radeon HD 3870 PCI-E x16 512MB Video Card
VIDEO CARD 2: NONE
VIDEO CARD 3: NONE
LCD Monitor: NONE
HARD DRIVE: Single Hard Drive (320GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)
Data Hard Drive: NONE
Optical Drive: NONE
Optical Drive 2: NONE
SOUND: 3D WAVE ON-BOARD 5.1 SOUND CARD
I'm going get XP Pro just for Wifie just incase my house doesn't have DSL Cable way to much at the new house it be 60 bucks a month after 6 months so I'd don't want get cable yet. Right now www.lighthouse.net have really cheap high speed for 21 bucks a month for 2meg connection I think I might go for it. plus I'm close to the tower lol. Not sure but I know I would be after I move out my house in Roscommon On March 28. I just want know if thats good way to go Plus that mother board WIFI ready.
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That looks like a good site you're buying from. That setup looks good to me even though I prefer AMD and Nvidia. I would recommend getting yourself the Creative X-Fi 24 bit audio card if you can afford it, but of course this is just a recommendation. I can't really think of anything else to add.
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Not nearly worth what your paying, seriously. You're getting ripped off. A 1200 dollar computer can be so much better.

Hell, give me 1200 dollars, I'll build you a computer and keep the insane difference. That'll make 2 people happy.

You live in Michigan, too, so shipping would be speedy.
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Not nearly worth what your paying, seriously. You're getting ripped off. A 1200 dollar computer can be so much better.

Hell, give me 1200 dollars, I'll build you a computer and keep the insane difference. That'll make 2 people happy.

You live in Michigan, too, so shipping would be speedy.
what he said....

it really isnt hard building your own system, especially with all of us watching your back...
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The system is ok (although I'm not sure about having three memory sticks, they can't run in dual channel mode if there is an odd number of them, right?), but, as the people had already told you, it's a bit too pricey. Check those components on newegg and see for yourself.

If you choose to order the components and build the system yourself, people here will gladly help (and there's already a guide and there are instructive videos on youtube showing how to mount a CPU... and, basically, you can't fit a component in a wrong place, if it fits, it should be there). Also, in that case, you could make some minor adjustments: multimeter displays are the kind of extras that have limited functionality, yet come at a price (still, if you like that kind of stuff, they do look nice), the motherboard is also relatively expensive though no longer high end, so you could get an X38 one for the money (but it's quite ok too, and wireless is important to you so it can stay as well), 600W is not necessary for this system, a good 500W PSU would be more than adequate.
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Ok Updated.
Newegg.com - Intel BOXD975XBX2KR LGA 775 Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor - Retail
Newegg.com - Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 (Perpendicular Recording) ST3500630AS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Newegg.com - Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Newegg.com - Antec True Power Trio TP3-650 ATX12V 650W Power Supply with Three 12V Rails 100 - 240 V UL, CUL, FCC, TUV, CE, C-tick, CCC, CB - Retail
Newegg.com - BIOSTAR V9603GT52 GeForce 9600GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
Newegg.com - CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
I'm going have order that ram it's so freaking cheap lol
Is that good?

question is that hard be good enough for me? Just for causal games like madden nhl and racing games and sim games stuff.
Updated Thats 1100 so far I allready got a LG super read muilt 20x burner hehe.
Now What case do I get and PSU for it and what ram and hard drive and video card.Help me out thanks. But If I go AMD I want fastest Quad core and mother board that works with my IEDE burner.
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That's more like it. Your new PSU will leave you much of a headroom for future upgrades, it should be able to run 8800GTS SLI without problems. (On the other hand, you won't be running SLI on that motherboard, as it only supports crossfire.)

Speaking of the board, it's got a pretty complete feature set, but the chipset is now two and a half years old. So I'd suggest you rather stick to the board you previously had in mind Newegg.com - ASUS P5K DELUXE/WIFI-AP LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail, as it's newer, a bit cheaper and has WiFi, or to switch to something like this Gigabyte board Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX All Solid Capacitor Intel Motherboard - Retail (from the experiences of people I know, stable, good performing and capable of achieving good overclocks, yet much cheaper), or this one Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-EX38-DS4 LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail (based on the new X38 chipset, but with DDR2 support so that you don't need to change the memory, OC friendly). I also must add that none of these boards are SLI capable, so if you are interested in having that option, you need a board with Nvidia's chipset.
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Nice price on the case, but unless you "just have to have" the looks of the 900, the new Coolermaster CM590 is going to be just as good or better, or even the somewhat older CM690.

CM590: Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER Centurion 590 RC-590-KKN1-GP Black SECC / ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

CM690: Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

Add a Corsair PSU and you will be good to go

Either of those two cases and a Corsair HX modular are a match made in heaven for cable management. Note the cutouts in the MB tray on both cases to help with that. Something the 900 doesn't have.

Just my humble opinion, and somewhat biased, as I have a CM690 and Corsair 620HX. Plus, I'm older than dirt , and I like the more understated styling of the Coolermaster cases
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What I'd take:

Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor - Retail

Newegg.com - ENERMAX Uber Chakra ECA5001BS Silver Aluminum / Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail (big, tool-free installation)

Newegg.com - SILVERSTONE ST50F ATX12V 500W Power Supply 100 - 240 V cUL, CE, TUV, CCC, FCC - Retail

Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM (pretty much the same specs as the one you chose)

Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX All Solid Capacitor Intel Motherboard - Retail

Newegg.com - MSI N9600GT-T2D512 OC GeForce 9600GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail (same price, better known manufacturer, factory overclocked and comes with a game, The Witcher, included)

Newegg.com - A-DATA Value Series 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail (the performance difference between CL5 and CL4 is not big, so I'd go for 4GB for only $5 more, it will soon be called for)

Total (before any rebates): $862. Rebates are $20 for the graphics card, $10 for the PSU and $35 for the case.

EDIT: Whoops, the memory and the hard drive were wrong, now corrected.
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oh the pain my eyes were going through when i thought you were actually gonna buy that "thing"

Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER Stacker 810 RC-810-KKA1-GP Black Aluminum Bezel, SECC Chassis ATX Full Tower Computer Case RS-850-EMBA 850W Power Supply - Retail
Newegg.com - Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3500320AS 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Newegg.com - ECS N9600GT-512MX-P GeForce 9600GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
Newegg.com - G.SKILL 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-EP35-DS3R LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Dynamic Energy Saver Ultra Durable II Intel Motherboard - Retail
Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor - Retail
Newegg.com - Microsoft Windows Vista 64-Bit Home Premium for System Builders Single Pack DVD - OEM

get two sets of memory and you will be running with all the brute force......

im still searching for more space and fine tuning your build for 1200-1300 bucks
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What thing?!
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the ibuypower PC man ur recommendation is good at the price, but im aiming at what the trash heap wouldve costed around
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I would recommend a good system myself with all the specs, but I see that all of you have a liking to the Intel and ATI chipsets so I might get rubbed off by somebody. I'm an AMD and Nvidia fan myself.
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nvidia is good, AMD phenom sucks

but Athlon X2 is good for price but is quickly being phased out.....
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heres my, "to hell with frills, i want all performance package"

Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER Centurion 590 RC-590-KKN1-GP Black SECC / ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Newegg.com - Seagate Barracuda ES.2 ST3250310NS 250GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Newegg.com - GECUBE HD3870X2-F3 Radeon HD 3870 X2 1GB 512-bit (256-bit x 2) GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
Newegg.com - CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX ATX12V V2.2 550W Power Supply 90 - 264 V UL, CUL, CE, CB, FCC Class B, TUV, CCC, C-tick - Retail
Newegg.com - G.SKILL 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-P35-S3G LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Newegg.com - Intel Xeon X3210 Kentsfield 2.13GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor - Retail
Newegg.com - Microsoft Windows Vista 64-Bit Home Basic for System Builders Single Pack DVD - OEM

with two sets of ram, youre looking at 1290 bucks.
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HAHA thanks guys I have look later I would have by the ram now rebates ends today on it Plus I'm moving out so I may have to ship some stuff to my dads workplace. You forgetting one thing? What OS lol? Should I stick with XP and go with xp pro? or vista? People want see my pax mods in vista soon.
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lol man i recommended vista x64 in all my recommendations
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What I'd take:

Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor - Retail

Newegg.com - ENERMAX Uber Chakra ECA5001BS Silver Aluminum / Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail (big, tool-free installation)

Newegg.com - SILVERSTONE ST50F ATX12V 500W Power Supply 100 - 240 V cUL, CE, TUV, CCC, FCC - Retail

Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM (pretty much the same specs as the one you chose)

Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX All Solid Capacitor Intel Motherboard - Retail

Newegg.com - MSI N9600GT-T2D512 OC GeForce 9600GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail (same price, better known manufacturer, factory overclocked and comes with a game, The Witcher, included)

Newegg.com - A-DATA Value Series 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail (the performance difference between CL5 and CL4 is not big, so I'd go for 4GB for only $5 more, it will soon be called for)

Total (before any rebates): $862. Rebates are $20 for the graphics card, $10 for the PSU and $35 for the case.

EDIT: Whoops, the memory and the hard drive were wrong, now corrected.
Thankyou I think I go with that I guess I have let my parnets know I have buy that graphics card today rebate ends on it.
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Man, for like 60 more dollars you could get a 8800.

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Man, for like 60 more dollars you could get a 8800.

Still cheap considering you were gonna spend 1200.
Lol Don't worry I haven't gotton anything yet Question is make sure I get right case for that long card? You sure 500 watts is enough? lol. I have 430watts on my old gateway right now.
Newegg.com - Antec True Power Trio TP3-650 ATX12V 650W Power Supply with Three 12V Rails 100 - 240 V UL, CUL, FCC, TUV, CE, C-tick, CCC, CB - Retail
How that instead of the 500 watts?
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that Trio is junk, go with Corsair. cant maintain stable current very well
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Go with the Corsair. The 650TX is the same price as the Trio, and a hell of a lot better PSU.
Newegg.com - CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX ATX12V / EPS12V 650W Power Supply 100 - 240 V UL, CE, CB, TUV, FCC, CCC - Retail

As for a case that will take a long vid card, either the Coolermaster 590 and 690 will do that with ease.

Here's a pic of a 690 with a LONG vid card installed. Note that it extends past the MB and there is still plenty of room. Also, even tho he didn't do it, he could have routed the 24-pin thru the hole in the MB tray for a bit tidier cable management. This pic does a pretty good job of showing just how well the Corsair HX's and the 690 are matched. The TX series cables won't be quite as easy to manage since they aren't modular.

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The 590 would be similar other than in that the HDDs are mounted in a different orientation.
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Go with the Corsair. The 650TX is the same price as the Trio, and a hell of a lot better PSU.
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As for a case that will take a long vid card, either the Coolermaster 590 and 690 will do that with ease.

Here's a pic of a 690 with a LONG vid card installed. Note that it extends past the MB and there is still plenty of room. Also, even tho he didn't do it, he could have routed the 24-pin thru the hole in the MB tray for a bit tidier cable management. This pic does a pretty good job of showing just how well the Corsair HX's and the 690 are matched. The TX series cables won't be quite as easy to manage since they aren't modular.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...9/P1010282.jpg

The 590 would be similar other than in that the HDDs are mounted in a different orientation.
Thanks Ya I was looking at that case it could fit perfect from my computer desk area like my gateway computer is. I'm going with this instead Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER Centurion 590 RC-590-KKN1-GP Black SECC / ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
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Thumbs Up! I found my dream computer for next month after I move :)

Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER Centurion 590 RC-590-KKN1-GP Black SECC / ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail case
Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor - Retail Processor
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Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX All Solid Capacitor Intel Motherboard - Retail Motherboard
Newegg.com - MSI N9600GT-T2D512 OC GeForce 9600GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail Video Card
Newegg.com - Patriot Viper 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail Ram Updated
Newegg.com - CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX ATX12V / EPS12V 650W Power Supply 100 - 240 V UL, CE, CB, TUV, FCC, CCC - Retail PSU
Newegg.com - Microsoft Windows Vista 64-Bit Ultimate for System Builders Single Pack DVD - OEM
1042.92 with os final cost for me.

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Your Q6600 will drop by $50.00 by then, which in turn you could get the 9600 725MHz core Zotac.
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get rid of the HDD and RAM,

go for the 7200.11 and some REAL 2x2GB sticks.

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I want ram be 1066 range bud so far with that hard drive is 1042.94 not bad. I think I still with that if they have combo deals that take more 20 off I be happy lol
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