[drwho]

OK, got my computer put together and got it started after looking around in the Bios and setting my cd-rom as first boot device, I try to install vista 64-bit on my computer. To boot from cd-rom press any key....press key....and get BOOTMGR is missing. Press Ctl+Alt+Delete. I can't get pass this message, what did I do wrong this time and how do I get around this problem?

[[hobo]eclipse]

are you sure you have the proper drive selected to boot from in the bios?

cpla rules of thumb i use are:

dont select to boot from ROM drive in bios, i set my OS drive as the only one in the boot options, the others are disabled. Then use the boot select option when needed on post(f12 key for me)

when ever i install the only HDD i have connected to the computer is the one being installed to, i then power down and hook up another 2 or 3 sata HDD and let them be detected on boot, just gives me piece of mind that my os install is fully contained on the HDD i want it and isnt dependent on the other HDD drives for something.

[drwho]

Originally Posted by [hobo]eclipse

are you sure you have the proper drive selected to boot from in the bios?

cpla rules of thumb i use are:

dont select to boot from ROM drive in bios, i set my OS drive as the only one in the boot options, the others are disabled. Then use the boot select option when needed on post(f12 key for me)

when ever i install the only HDD i have connected to the computer is the one being installed to, i then power down and hook up another 2 or 3 sata HDD and let them be detected on boot, just gives me piece of mind that my os install is fully contained on the HDD i want it and isnt dependent on the other HDD drives for something.

Hmmmm....I currently have cd-rom selected as first boot device. I managed to solve my Bootmgr is missing problem by disconnecting the other two drives I had connected. But am still unable to boot to vista installation disk. Will give your suggestions a try, [hobo]eclipse. Thanks for the suggestion.



Sorry to say that set first boot selection to harddisk didn't help any.

[drwho]

My problem now has come down to just being unable to install windows on my hard drive. I really have no clue as to what to do. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[temeteus82]

Set the DVD drive as the First boot device. Since Vista 64-bit uses DVD disc not cd-rom.

[drwho]

Originally Posted by temeteus82

Set the DVD drive as the First boot device. Since Vista 64-bit uses DVD disc not cd-rom.

The only option I have in the Bios for first boot is cdrom. No option to choose DVD.

[LCS2008]

I have installed Vista 64 Bit and 32 Bit (ORIGINAL) succesfully without this problem.

that "idea" to select DVD instead of CD is stupid. The drive reads DVDs and CDs every time, it not "ask" to bios if "it can read".

So, If you choose the correct drive (that you have, becouse if not the "press any key to start install" would not appear) it is a problem of the DVD, contact Microsoft for a change or the store where you buy it.

[temeteus82]

Originally Posted by drwho

OK, got my computer put together and got it started after looking around in the Bios and setting my cd-rom as first boot device

Your drive is just CD-ROM drive?

Originally Posted by drwho

The only option I have in the Bios for first boot is cdrom. No option to choose DVD.

There should be the drives name like "TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182D" or just the cd-rom.

[temeteus82]

Originally Posted by LCS2008

that "idea" to select DVD instead of CD is stupid. The drive reads DVDs and CDs every time, it not "ask" to bios if "it can read".

Well that depends does he have drive that reads cd-rom and DVD-disc's ???

[drwho]

I've solved my problem. I use a Saitek Eclipse II keyboard which is USB. When I went to hit any key to start install windows the key when I hit it didn't register for some reason. Switched to an older PS2 keyboard and am installing windows now. Thanks for your help and suggestions, guys. Appreciate it.

[temeteus82]

so you didn't have legacy USB keyboard support enabled in BIOS

[drwho]

Oh, was that what it was? Well, now I have another problem. When i get to the part where it starts copying windows files i get some error message that says "Cannot initialize Redeployment engine".


I guess I'm really making things difficult for myself, every time I get around one obstacle another pops up.


This is the whole message.


Windows setup cannot reinitialize the deployment engine. To install windows, restart the installation


I've restarted and get the ssame message.

[temeteus82]

So you have done all the hard drive configurations and entered the cd-key?
What mode is your SATA drives set in BIOS? ide, AHCI or RAID?

[EDIT] I'm assuming that all your hdd's are SATA...

[drwho]

Originally Posted by temeteus82

So you have done all the hard drive configurations and entered the cd-key?
What mode is your SATA drives set in BIOS? ide, AHCI or RAID?

[EDIT] I'm assuming that all your hdd's are SATA...

Yes, all my HDs are sata. I have neither AHCI or raid set at the moment. Since I don't intend to use a raid setup, should it be set to AHCI?

[Judas]

look in the bios for USB LEGACY SUPPORT.. or USB LEGACY KEYBOARD SUPPORT... this will allow your usb keyboard to work in enviroments such as the boot managers and being able to press the any key

[[hobo]eclipse]

panging jr recomended to me to not use AHCI mode w vista a while back.

your drives show up in the MoBo bios, correct?

on this gigabyte board there is an option for native IDE mode (witch uses Mobo Bios) and non-native IDE mode (witch uses the ACHI/RAID bios depending on which selected) for the SATA. as i said above panging recomended i not use the ACHI mode and stick with RAID even though i was using a JBOD setup.

in the bios i selected non native IDE mode(SATA PORT 0-3 native mode = disabled), then set SATA to RAID mode ( SATA RAID/ACHI Mode = RAID)

the HDD disks no longer show up in the mobo bios and are now controlled by the raid bios witch pops up after you post screen and before OS boot, usually with another key to enter it( cntrl+i for me) this is where you would set up your RAID arrays with multiple drives, if you arent using any arrays you really should nt need to enter it and any drives you plug in (SATA) should show up on reboot in the SATA bios. the benefit for me in using non ative IDE mode with RAID is it gave me SATA hot plugging witch is useful for eSATA connections.

this is where your chipset comes into play and weather or not you will need to supply VISTA with a driver during installation (old floppy thing with SATA and XP, but VISTA can get the driver from anywhere, USB, ROM drive, or floppy). I did not have to supply a driver during install and the single SATA HDD i had connected to the RAID bios was detected and i was able to install, then update to the newer intel drivers when i was in windows.

hope this helps a lil, what mobo we talkin about?

[Judas]

With the gigabyte boards.... or any board using a combination of multiple controllers... the reason to set the optical drive to IDE mode running on another controller is vista would get confused quite often and figure that the cd rom was the only bootable device, preventing you from being able to install anything on the other controllers drives.


However i've found a weird bug, with the ICH9R raid controllers, if 2 or more drives are setup in RAID 0, and you setup the raid 0 array as 2 individual arrays, vista will not be able to install on them, however if you only create the primary array first, leaving the other space completely alone and raw still, install windows, and then create the rest of the array, the system would work properly.

[PangingJr]

Originally Posted by Judas

However i've found a weird bug, with the ICH9R raid controllers, if 2 or more drives are setup in RAID 0, and you setup the raid 0 array as 2 individual arrays,

you mean create two independent RAID volumes within a single array?

Originally Posted by Judas

However i've found a weird bug, with the ICH9R raid controllers, if 2 or more drives are setup in RAID 0, and you setup the raid 0 array as 2 individual arrays, vista will not be able to install on them, however if you only create the primary array first, leaving the other space completely alone and raw still, install windows, and then create the rest of the array, the system would work properly.

try creating Primary partition, Extended partitions and Logical drives (in extended partitions) and format before starting the installation of the Windows,
and see if you still have the 'bug' you mentioned.

for an example, for both ICH8R (with six Serial ATA ports) and ICH9R, you can create up to three independent RAID arrays (each with two hard drives, on any of the six SATA ports), then you can create two independent RAID volumes within each of the arrays, total of six RAID volumes can be created.

2x drives in RAID0....array 1 (with 2 RAID volumes created)........[ RAID volume 1 -- Primary partition and Active ][ RAID volume 2-- Logical drive]

2x drives in RAID0....array 2 (with 2 RAID volumes created)........[ RAID volume 3 -- Logical drive ][ RAID volume 4 -- Logical drive ]

2x drives in RAID0....array 3 (with 2 RAID volumes created)........[ RAID volume 5 -- Logical drive ][ RAID volume 6 -- Logical drive ]

[Judas]

tried that...

Yes, 2 independant arrays across a single raid array..

Build the initial array, any size you want, reboot leaving the rest unused or set aside raw.... load windows.. go back and build the 2nd part and volla...

if you load up both then try and install vista... refused to work..

confirmed on 3 different ICH9R systems with different hardrives

[PangingJr]

Originally Posted by Judas

tried that...

Yes, 2 independant arrays across a single raid array..

Build the initial array, any size you want, reboot leaving the rest unused or set aside raw.... load windows.. go back and build the 2nd part and volla...

if you load up both then try and install vista... refused to work..

confirmed on 3 different ICH9R systems with different hardrives

hmm i don't have that problem,
are you sure that is not the 2 TB limit problem like we used to talk about before?

[Judas]

no because this happened even with 2 160gb sata 1 drives

[temeteus82]

Originally Posted by drwho

Yes, all my HDs are sata. I have neither AHCI or raid set at the moment. Since I don't intend to use a raid setup, should it be set to AHCI?

I use AHCI mode and I'm happy with it. I loaded the drivers in the setup phase so I don't know if the windows vista will install without the drivers. But I've heard that Vista should install just fine in AHCI mode.

[drwho]

Originally Posted by [hobo]eclipse

hope this helps a lil, what mobo we talkin about?

x48T-DQ6

[drwho]

Hi guys

As interesting as this talk is about a raid setup, all I'm really interested in doing is getting vista installed on the HD that I'm trying to install on. I mean no offense and really appreciate your efforts to help me out, but in this point and time all I want to do is get vista installed tonight so I can move on with other things.


One other thing I would like to ask is how I can change the settings for my CPU. I have a e8400.

Settings are;

Cpu Clock Ratio - 7x (should be 9x)

CPU Frequency - 2.80 Ghz (400x7) Clock should be 3.0

CPU Host Frequency - 400

[PangingJr]

Originally Posted by Judas

no because this happened even with 2 160gb sata 1 drives

that can be because you create 2 independent RAID volumes within the array and both 2 RAID volumes was partitioned (and format) like this for example...

2x 160GB drives in RAID0.... (with 2 RAID volumes created)........[ RAID volume 0 -- Primary partition and Active ] [ RAID volume 1 -- Primary partition(s) ]

try this...

2x 160GB drives in RAID0.... (with 2 RAID volumes created)........[ RAID volume 0 -- Primary partition and Active ] [ RAID volume 1 -- Primary partition(s) - and all Primary partitions are hidden ]

another word, (Before starting the installation of the Windows) All of the Primary partitions (that you have created) are hidden but the Active one.
This usually apply to all MBR partitioned disk drives.


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never mind, Judas. it's hard for me enough trying to explain something you don't really need an explaination for in the first place.
i guess, i'm telling you what was about that, usually apply to all "MBR partitioned" disk drives, what you are telling me is like a jump to a conclusion that there is a 'bug' in ICH9R.

people can be mislead by what information is not provided just as they can be mislead by what is written.

[[hobo]eclipse]

Originally Posted by drwho

Hi guys

As interesting as this talk is about a raid setup, all I'm really interested in doing is getting vista installed on the HD that I'm trying to install on. I mean no offense and really appreciate your efforts to help me out, but in this point and time all I want to do is get vista installed tonight so I can move on with other things.


One other thing I would like to ask is how I can change the settings for my CPU. I have a e8400.

Settings are;

Cpu Clock Ratio - 7x (should be 9x)

CPU Frequency - 2.80 Ghz (400x7) Clock should be 3.0

CPU Host Frequency - 400

change the CPu clock ratio to 9 and the CPU host frequency to 333, then set the RAM multiplier to the correct setting to equal your default RAM speed.

for a quick overclock which the CPU "should" do with little or no voltage increase would be to leave the CPU host frequency at 400 and set the CPU clock ratio to 9 = 3.6GHz. then again set the RAM ratio (or multiplier) to equal your default speeds. just watch temps.

just a quick tip, for maybe once you get it installed. did you get it installed? hows that goin?

[drwho]

Originally Posted by [hobo]eclipse

change the CPu clock ratio to 9 and the CPU host frequency to 333, then set the RAM multiplier to the correct setting to equal your default RAM speed.

for a quick overclock which the CPU "should" do with little or no voltage increase would be to leave the CPU host frequency at 400 and set the CPU clock ratio to 9 = 3.6GHz. then again set the RAM ratio (or multiplier) to equal your default speeds. just watch temps.

just a quick tip, for maybe once you get it installed. did you get it installed? hows that goin?

Hi hobo. Yes I got windows installed but the board is already OC to 3.6Ghz with the FSB at 400. The board is very unstable at the moment. What do I do to undo what has been set on this board. The multiplier for the CPU is locked at 7. All I want right now is to get the board down to what would be default settings for the e8400 and the G.Skill DDR3 1600 I have installed.

Can you please help me out hobo?

[[hobo]eclipse]

is there not an option right below or above the CPU clock ratio to unlock the setting in the bios? maybe look for a bios update?

your board cant be set to 7x400 because that is 2.8 GHz. If the CPU is running at 3.6GHz you are using the 9 multi. simply put the host frequency to 333MHz and adjust the RAM multiplier accordingly

[drwho]

Originally Posted by [hobo]eclipse

is there not an option right below or above the CPU clock ratio to unlock the setting in the bios? maybe look for a bios update?

your board cant be set to 7x400 because that is 2.8 GHz. If the CPU is running at 3.6GHz you are using the 9 multi. simply put the host frequency to 333MHz and adjust the RAM multiplier accordingly

F4 is the current Bios for the X48T-DQ6 on Gigabyte's website and is the Bios loaded in the motherboard I got. 2.8 is what's showing on the post screen and windows is reading 3.0Ghz. I'm unable to adjust the host frequency to 333MHz and I have no idea whereto look for the ram multiplier. Please pardon my stupidity.