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Old Jul 9, 2008, 10:28 AM   #1
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Gigabyte MA790FX-DS5

Anyone else have this motherboard?

With Speedfan I have one motherboard temperature that goes between 80 and 85 C. I'd like to know if this is normal and what it really is.

My system is stable so it doesn't seem to cause any problem. When checking in BIOS there is no such temp.
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Anyone else have this motherboard?

With Speedfan I have one motherboard temperature that goes between 80 and 85 C. I'd like to know if this is normal and what it really is.

My system is stable so it doesn't seem to cause any problem. When checking in BIOS there is no such temp.
Does it jump directly from 80 to 85? Try running idle for a couple of minutes then run a game. If the temperature doesn't go up steadily then drop right as soon as you exit the game then its probably tied to a sensor that isn't actually active on the motherboard (like a sensor that's logically there but hardware wise isn't actually connected) and thus faulty readings
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Sensor programs often throw a few absurd readings, find the ones which seem to tie in with those available in BIOS system health, and ignore the rest.
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Does it jump directly from 80 to 85? Try running idle for a couple of minutes then run a game. If the temperature doesn't go up steadily then drop right as soon as you exit the game then its probably tied to a sensor that isn't actually active on the motherboard (like a sensor that's logically there but hardware wise isn't actually connected) and thus faulty readings
Nah, it doesn't jump.. not that I've seen anyway. I just ment that the lowest I've seen that temp has been 80 and the highest 85..

But I suppose it's something not active, all other temps i see are normal.
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Gah! How I wish I had spent a little more and gotten the DQ6 version of the motherboard.. there's still no support for 9950, not even 9850.. and I'm ready to get one. All other ATI 790-chipset motherboards from Gigabyte supports the 9950.
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Gah! How I wish I had spent a little more and gotten the DQ6 version of the motherboard.. there's still no support for 9950, not even 9850.. and I'm ready to get one. All other ATI 790-chipset motherboards from Gigabyte supports the 9950.
Sell the one you have and get a DQ6?
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Sell the one you have and get a DQ6?
Could do but I doubt I'll get much for a used mobo so I'll wait, hopefully it won't be long since all other 790-based mobos from them supports the full range of Phenoms..

It is a bit frustrating though.
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Now I'm lost. What to do what to do. The new line of mobos with SB750 seems to be the way to go but it feels kind of a waste to get one with the 790GX since I don't need the built in graphics. Not that it will do any harm either...

Strangely enough those are cheaper than the mobo I have, even if they are identical with the only difference in chipsets. Though, if I'm gonna get a new motherboard I might as well go Intel even if it pains me to do so. Even the Intel fans needs AMD to be alive and kicking....
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the re is a 790FX board with the SB750 but thats only from foxconn... they seem to really be shooting straight up in terms of quality though....
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Either the reading is bad or the northbridge heatsink is not making contact with the chip, although even if that were the case, the temperature shouldn't be 80C right after the boot, I think. Still, check how well it is attached. If it's ok, try touching it while the PC's on (but only if the air around it isn't too hot, 80C could scorch you!). If you can hold your fingers on the lower part of the heatsink for more than a few seconds without discomfort, rest assured it's not above 60C.

EDIT: I wrote "northbridge" because I couldn't remember another part of the motherboard that could get so hot. Still, there is such a part, the CPU power circuitry, so if it's not the northbridge (and if it's not complete nonsense), this is probably it (I'm not sure if motherboards have started monitoring this temp, though). I'm fairly sure that the components that make the power circuitry are rated for such and even higher temperatures, so I wouldn't be to worried. On the other hand, since you spoke about Phenom compatibility, it's usually the power circuitry that's the biggest issue (at least that was the case with the majority of 780G motherboards), but adding a fan to blow over that part of the board would solve the problem.
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the re is a 790FX board with the SB750 but thats only from foxconn... they seem to really be shooting straight up in terms of quality though....
Yes, I saw that but as far as I can tell that motherboard isn't avaliable anywhere here and ordering from abroad is sometimes a bit of a hassle. Well, I think I'm gonna wait for the Denebs to come out anyway and then decide what to do.
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Either the reading is bad or the northbridge heatsink is not making contact with the chip, although even if that were the case, the temperature shouldn't be 80C right after the boot, I think. Still, check how well it is attached. If it's ok, try touching it while the PC's on (but only if the air around it isn't too hot, 80C could scorch you!). If you can hold your fingers on the lower part of the heatsink for more than a few seconds without discomfort, rest assured it's not above 60C.

EDIT: I wrote "northbridge" because I couldn't remember another part of the motherboard that could get so hot. Still, there is such a part, the CPU power circuitry, so if it's not the northbridge (and if it's not complete nonsense), this is probably it (I'm not sure if motherboards have started monitoring this temp, though). I'm fairly sure that the components that make the power circuitry are rated for such and even higher temperatures, so I wouldn't be to worried. On the other hand, since you spoke about Phenom compatibility, it's usually the power circuitry that's the biggest issue (at least that was the case with the majority of 780G motherboards), but adding a fan to blow over that part of the board would solve the problem.
There is no such temperature in BIOS, I only see that one with Speedfan so I wonder if Speedfan gets it wrong and misreads something somehow. It's fairly stable, it has never been under 80 and never over 85 no matter what I do so I'm fairly confident that there's nothing to worry about. My system is now very stable anyway.
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Question..

I found this line of text when I searched on some info about this motherboard from other sites than Gigabyte.

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At 1066MHz, this system supports up to two single rank modules ONLY.
I've read something similar before but not quite reflected upon it. My english is good but obviously not good enough to be sure what this means. It's no issue yet since I don't have a Phenom but I will soon enough and I kinda want to know what this practically means.
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sounds like it's only supports 2x single-sided modules at DDR2-1066MHz (and won't support using a doubled-sided module).


http://www.kingston.com/literature/p...emoryranks.pdf

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The term “rank” was created by JEDEC, the memory industry’s standards group. The concept of memory rank applies to all memory module form-factors, such as desktop DIMMs, notebook SODIMMs, workstation and server Registered DIMMs; in general, though, it is only critical on server platforms due to their higher memory capacity. A memory rank is,
simply put, a block or area of data that is created using some or all the memory chips on a memory module.
A rank must be 64 bits of data wide; on memory modules which support Error Correction Code (ECC), the 64-bit wide data area requires an 8-bit wide ECC area for a total width of 72 bits. Depending on how memory modules are engineered, they can contain one, two, or four areas of 64-bit wide data areas (or 72-bit wide areas, where 72 bits = 64 data bits and 8 ECC bits).
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How many ranks do typical module types have?

Single-sided modules are always single-rank. Doubled-sided unbuffered DIMMs and SODIMMs are always dual-rank.
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Still can't say that I understand what it means practically.

Since I got the TWIN2X2048-8500C5D as per recommendation on Corsairs site, and I can't find what kind they are, what do I do?

I don't know, I thought I knew quite a bit but obviously not because this goes over my head...
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Still can't say that I understand what it means practically.

Since I got the TWIN2X2048-8500C5D as per recommendation on Corsairs site, and I can't find what kind they are, what do I do?

I don't know, I thought I knew quite a bit but obviously not because this goes over my head...
so that Corsairs's RAM kit you were talking about it has something to do with this threads http://www.hardwareheaven.com/hardware...dominator.html ?
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so that Corsairs's RAM kit you were talking about it has something to do with this threads http://www.hardwareheaven.com/hardware...dominator.html ?
Yep, those are the same. I bought them to be ready when I get a Phenom so things might work better with that cpu.. but right now I'm not sure how to go about it. Since thats the mems that corsair recommended I should think that they will work...
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Just found this for your board that me be of interest to you, if you still wanted to upgrade to the 9950:

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just an update,flashed bios to F6 (with usb flash drive all went well) installed the 9950 runing a treat boy is this cpu quick good temps as well as i write this temps @ 34 on all cores overall 37 so even though gigabyte say that the DS5 does not support the cpu!!! i'll have to say OH YES IT DOES !!! anyway i hope this helps
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Yes, I figured that it probably would work since all other mobo's with 790 chipsets does, it's just not official yet. All I get when I ask Gigabyte support is that it's under testing. I'm just a little jumpy when it comes to testing something like this but considering that others have and it works I might just go ahead and do it.

Downside is, I seem to be cursed with getting hardware that only works well at stock. Every single CPU I've bought have been barely overclockable while others seem to be lucky and get the good ones! :P

On the other hand, I'm starting to believe my problems are due to my X2 5200 starting to fail. It's suddenly less tolerant and I can't OC as high as I did a week ago.... so I guess it's best to shop before it dies. Why I don't know, It's never overheated and I've never given it more voltage than it can take, at least according to specs, but I believe it wasn't perfect from the start so...
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