Question For Users OF Any Of The X58 Mainboards

drwho · Jan 5, 2009, 01:10 AM

I just very recently upgraded my computer with a Biostar Tpower X58 motherboard, an Intel i7 940 processor and 6 gigs of G.Skill DDR3 1333 memory. I've run into a small problem when trying to set the memory to a frequency of 1333. The highest I can right now is 1067. There is no option in the Bios for setting the memory to 1333. The picture below illustrates what I'm referring too.

Just wondering if any of the other X58 boards are this way?

Lowfat · Jan 5, 2009, 01:31 AM

Most boards don't support 1333 memory ratios. You'll have to raise the BCLK in order to take advantage of the memory.

**kris23** · Jan 5, 2009, 01:38 AM

i just remembered, Intel Core i7s 920 and 940 only support DDR3 1066, shown there.

the 965 EE is the only one that supports DDR3 1333.

to get above that, tweaking and some OCing will need to be done.

drwho · Jan 5, 2009, 01:58 AM

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You'll have to raise the BCLK in order to take advantage of the memory

Please excuse my ignorance. Could you provide an explanation?

drwho · Jan 5, 2009, 02:15 AM

@kris

Thanks for the info on the i7 processors. I feel stupid for not knowing that but at least I have part of the puzzle solved. Thanks for your helps as always.

RobertBruce · Jan 5, 2009, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kris23

i just remembered, Intel Core i7s 920 and 940 only support DDR3 1066, shown there.

the 965 EE is the only one that supports DDR3 1333.

to get above that, tweaking and some OCing will need to be done.

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Generally? or just on certain boards like that? Also, can it be 'fixed' with a bios update?

**kris23** · Jan 5, 2009, 03:45 AM

yes, generally it is like that, at stock settings anyway. its not a board problem but a CPU limit, you will need to do some mild OCing as far as i know.

unfortunately i have never got my hands on an i7 system to tell you how exactly to do that.... you probably will need to PM Veridian3 to do instruct you on how.

Lowfat · Jan 5, 2009, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by drwho

Please excuse my ignorance. Could you provide an explanation?

BCLK = base clock. You would need to overclock the BLCK which is stock 133.

I am not at my i7 system right now but I am pretty sure I can take it to 1333MHz while at stock CPU clocks.

**kris23** · Jan 5, 2009, 04:29 AM

dude? Lowfat? what kind of 32GB SSDs are those in your rig? i hope theyre not those Intel X-25Es

Lowfat · Jan 5, 2009, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by kris23

dude? Lowfat? what kind of 32GB SSDs are those in your rig? i hope theyre not those Intel X-25Es

O hell no. Patriot Warp V2's. They only do 155MB/s read, and 90 MB/s write. All for of my drives together are cheaper than the X-25's.

**kris23** · Jan 5, 2009, 04:58 AM

lol ok

so does RAIDing them remove the issues with random access and multtasking?

Lowfat · Jan 5, 2009, 05:00 AM

Yes. With a dedicated hardware controller they have don't suffer from the stuttering issues caused by the Jmicron controller used on the SSD.

**kris23** · Jan 5, 2009, 05:21 AM

would an ICH10R count as a dedicated hardware controller?

because a dedicated card is too expensive...

nicnik · Jan 5, 2009, 10:29 AM

with my board I can change my DRAM Multiplier; by default it's 8. So by default RAM runs at 8x133 ~ 1066.
Again at stock, I can just move DRAM Multi to 10, and I'd have 1333Mhz RAM. Then I can enter new timings for 1333, or use the rated timings at 1333mhz. I may be doing it all wrong, but it works and is stable wotever im doing.

I suggest you first check for a bios update.

nicnik · Jan 5, 2009, 12:33 PM

Reading through your manual from the manufacturers site, it seems that's how your bios works. As mentioned above you'd prolly have to overclock FSB to move the dram speed up.

What options are there under "CPU Frequency Setting".

FYI, the page I've been reading from BIOSTAR, there's a bios there too, not sure whether it's newer or older.

Lowfat · Jan 5, 2009, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kris23

would an ICH10R count as a dedicated hardware controller?

because a dedicated card is too expensive...

definiitely not a dedicated controller but the ICH10R doesn't seem to do to badly with them. I've been doing some testing with the ICH10R and haven't noticed any real stuttering issues with it so far.

blibbax · Jan 5, 2009, 05:25 PM

From what I know early i7 CPUs (other than the EE) all had a maximum memory divider, but some later retail i7s do not.

Judas · Jan 5, 2009, 07:07 PM

the gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5 boards i've got default to 1067mhz however allow for both 1333 and manual adjustment to 1600mhz (but it's a little trickier with the 1600mhz)... actually i can set a value higher then 1600mhz but...... i'm not going to cause i don't have ram rated even 1600mhz.

but generally with anything other then the 965ee cpu.... 1067 is default

drwho · Jan 10, 2009, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicnik

What options are there under "CPU Frequency Setting".

There are no settings.

Jan 5, 2009, 01:10 AM	#1
drwho HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Carol Stream, IL Posts: 572 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Question For Users OF Any Of The X58 Mainboards I just very recently upgraded my computer with a Biostar Tpower X58 motherboard, an Intel i7 940 processor and 6 gigs of G.Skill DDR3 1333 memory. I've run into a small problem when trying to set the memory to a frequency of 1333. The highest I can right now is 1067. There is no option in the Bios for setting the memory to 1333. The picture below illustrates what I'm referring too. Just wondering if any of the other X58 boards are this way? __________________

Jan 5, 2009, 01:31 AM	#2
Lowfat Xtreme Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can Posts: 4,254 Rep Power: 101	Re: Question For Users OF Any Of The X58 Mainboards Most boards don't support 1333 memory ratios. You'll have to raise the BCLK in order to take advantage of the memory. __________________

Jan 5, 2009, 01:38 AM	#3
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,019 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Re: Question For Users OF Any Of The X58 Mainboards i just remembered, Intel Core i7s 920 and 940 only support DDR3 1066, shown there. the 965 EE is the only one that supports DDR3 1333. to get above that, tweaking and some OCing will need to be done. __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Jan 5, 2009, 02:15 AM	Thread Starter #5
drwho HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Carol Stream, IL Posts: 572 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	Re: Question For Users OF Any Of The X58 Mainboards @kris Thanks for the info on the i7 processors. I feel stupid for not knowing that but at least I have part of the puzzle solved. Thanks for your helps as always. __________________

Jan 5, 2009, 03:45 AM	#7
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,019 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Re: Question For Users OF Any Of The X58 Mainboards yes, generally it is like that, at stock settings anyway. its not a board problem but a CPU limit, you will need to do some mild OCing as far as i know. unfortunately i have never got my hands on an i7 system to tell you how exactly to do that.... you probably will need to PM Veridian3 to do instruct you on how. __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Jan 5, 2009, 04:29 AM	#9
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,019 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Re: Question For Users OF Any Of The X58 Mainboards dude? Lowfat? what kind of 32GB SSDs are those in your rig? i hope theyre not those Intel X-25Es __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Jan 5, 2009, 04:58 AM	#11
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,019 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Re: Question For Users OF Any Of The X58 Mainboards lol ok so does RAIDing them remove the issues with random access and multtasking? __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Jan 5, 2009, 05:00 AM	#12
Lowfat Xtreme Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Grande Prairie, AB, Can Posts: 4,254 Rep Power: 101	Re: Question For Users OF Any Of The X58 Mainboards Yes. With a dedicated hardware controller they have don't suffer from the stuttering issues caused by the Jmicron controller used on the SSD. __________________

Jan 5, 2009, 05:21 AM	#13
kris23 Going Insane..... Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,019 Rep Power: 131 System Specs	Re: Question For Users OF Any Of The X58 Mainboards would an ICH10R count as a dedicated hardware controller? because a dedicated card is too expensive... __________________ Hardwareheaven Super-Moderator Building a new computer system and not sure where to start? Click Here! last updated (5/18/11) Rosewill FUTURE case replaces CM 690 II with its greater interior length. Building a PC: Step by Step Guide Written by Kristopher Pedemonte and Nathan Marks-Forder Edited by Allan Campbell Questions or Comments? feel free to post them in the forums!

Jan 5, 2009, 10:29 AM	#14
nicnik In the Land of Snow Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 569 Rep Power: 46 System Specs	Re: Question For Users OF Any Of The X58 Mainboards with my board I can change my DRAM Multiplier; by default it's 8. So by default RAM runs at 8x133 ~ 1066. Again at stock, I can just move DRAM Multi to 10, and I'd have 1333Mhz RAM. Then I can enter new timings for 1333, or use the rated timings at 1333mhz. I may be doing it all wrong, but it works and is stable wotever im doing. I suggest you first check for a bios update. __________________ Follow Me on Twitter Battlefield 3 \| youtube \| TwitchTV

Jan 5, 2009, 12:33 PM	#15
nicnik In the Land of Snow Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 569 Rep Power: 46 System Specs	Re: Question For Users OF Any Of The X58 Mainboards Reading through your manual from the manufacturers site, it seems that's how your bios works. As mentioned above you'd prolly have to overclock FSB to move the dram speed up. What options are there under "CPU Frequency Setting". FYI, the page I've been reading from BIOSTAR, there's a bios there too, not sure whether it's newer or older. __________________ Follow Me on Twitter Battlefield 3 \| youtube \| TwitchTV

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