What Am I doing Wrong ???

drwho · Jun 14, 2009, 01:09 AM

As some of you may know I was having alot of problems with a Biostar Tpower X58 board that had a cold boot problem. I couldn't find a cure so I replaced the Biostar board with a Foxconn BloodRage GTI. That solved my cold boot problems. Now, I'm not sure I have a problem or not? Look at the screen below

I'm not OCing and at the moment everthing is at stock. Looking at those two screens it says that my i7 940 processor is running at 1604MHz. I'd swear I have things setup in the Bios correctly, but now I'm not sure. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. One more thing, I'm sure I haven't given enough info, so if you need something else, please ask. I apologize for taking up your valuable time.

Tyrsonswood · Jun 14, 2009, 01:12 AM

Bus speed looks pretty slow.

Mac Daddy · Jun 14, 2009, 01:53 AM

Looks that way here too Ty.

As for our valuable time drwho we are here to help Bro. Wish I had an i7 processor and X58 mobo to provide some feedback. Since I don't own either of those I can only speculate on my advise.

In my BIOS there is a setting called EIST disable it if it is included in the X58 BIOS.

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swimtech · Jun 14, 2009, 01:53 AM

It's likely that nothing's wrong at all. Since you are basically idle, the CPU is in a power saving mode.

Try downloading and running Prime95 available Here and run it. It should run in a window - not full screen - so you can run CPU-Z at the same time and watch your clock speed jump to full speed when the program puts a load on your CPU and memory.

drwho · Jun 14, 2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by swimtech

It's likely that nothing's wrong at all. Since you are basically idle, the CPU is in a power saving mode.

Try downloading and running Prime95 available Here and run it. It should run in a window - not full screen - so you can run CPU-Z at the same time and watch your clock speed jump to full speed when the program puts a load on your CPU and memory.

Ok, I've tried running Prime95. As soon as it starts I get a BSOD.

Ok, I went back and tried running Prime95 again and this time it seems to be running fine. It looks like you were right, swimtech. The processor seems to be idling, when running prime95 the core speed is up where it should be and the vcore is at 1.29v.

swimtech · Jun 14, 2009, 07:00 PM

Cool - and glad you got Prime95 going ok 'cause I got notice it had BSOD'd on you, and I was at a loss to explain that issue...

Now, like Mac Daddy mentioned, you can if you like go back into your Bios setup and turn off EIST and other power saving settings if you'd like to run your machine's CPU and memory clock manually and not have the mainboard controlling things based upon CPU load.

Some boards will even allow overclocking with the power saving settings left on - some won't - I don't know about your particular board. But, that is part of the adventure of getting new components and jiggling with the settings - overclocking or not!

Generally though, overclocking with power saving features left on in the bios reduces overclock stability and increases the number of factors you have to remember to keep track of while adjusting overclocking parameters. If I were you, I'd run your machine awhile at stock and learn how your system reacts to the various settings you choose.

My personal opinion - your processor and mainboard are ideally suited for some overclocking experimentation. If you decide to do that, go slow, read a lot, learn your components, see what others with your same stuff are able to do. This incident has obviously helped you to get to know how your system reacts to the settings you've chosen.

You've got a really nice MB/CPU combo going there!

drwho · Jun 14, 2009, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by swimtech

My personal opinion - your processor and mainboard are ideally suited for some overclocking experimentation. If you decide to do that, go slow, read a lot, learn your components, see what others with your same stuff are able to do. This incident has obviously helped you to get to know how your system reacts to the settings you've chosen.

You've got a really nice MB/CPU combo going there!

Thanks for your help, guys. I appreciate your help. I've disabled the EIST and you can see the results below.

Have to admit that I really like this new motherboard and the way it runs. Where is a good place to learn the basics of ocing an i7 processor?

Mac Daddy · Jun 15, 2009, 01:03 AM

If the EIST setting resolved this issue as it did on my E6550 / X38 then the principles may in fact be similar. The only real difference is the i7 uses an on CPU memory controller much like the AMD CPU's.

I don't have an i7 CPU or X58 board here but if I was sent one I surely would write a comprehensive guide on overclocking this.

Anyway glad you got this issue solved mate

cozumel · Jun 15, 2009, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by drwho

Have to admit that I really like this new motherboard and the way it runs. Where is a good place to learn the basics of ocing an i7 processor?

Not sure whether the link below is a good forum or not and if the information within is any good. It was the first google entry on 'how to overclock i7 biostar tpower". I haven't read it. But it may help you.

Official BIOSTAR TPower X58 Review/Overclock/Guide Thread

I also came across the New Rebels Haven Forum where it is only about the TPower x58.

drwho · Jun 15, 2009, 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cozumel

Not sure whether the link below is a good forum or not and if the information within is any good. It was the first google entry on 'how to overclock i7 biostar tpower". I haven't read it. But it may help you.

Official BIOSTAR TPower X58 Review/Overclock/Guide Thread

I also came across the New Rebels Haven Forum where it is only about the TPower x58.

I need to change my computer specs. I'm using a Foxconn BloodRage GTI instead of the Biostar board. I had a cold boot problem and was never able to solve the problem. The Foxconn board has replaced it.

Thanks for the links, cozumel.

cozumel · Jun 15, 2009, 03:33 AM

Apologies, if I had read your first post properly I would have known your specs were wrong. Here is a thread on overclocking the BloodRage. Although it is not the GTI version, much of the BIOS layout should be similar I would think.

swimtech · Jun 15, 2009, 07:10 PM

Here's a page at Xbit Labs from a review they did on the board that might help - looks interesting too.

Here as well at DH in the midst of the January 2009 mainboard roundup is some information, including a link to complete bios screens, on the Foxconn Bloodrage board.

These may assist you some, I hope...

cozumel · Jun 15, 2009, 07:23 PM

Double apology. I think DH banned my linky on my previous post. Apologies.

Mac Daddy · Jun 16, 2009, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by cozumel

Double apology. I think DH banned my linky on my previous post. Apologies.

I don't see any edits on that post here Bro.

I am following along here I would still like to check out i7 and X58 and want to be ready when I do

cozumel · Jun 16, 2009, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Mac Daddy

I don't see any edits on that post here Bro.

I think the forum I linked to is on an automatic ban from DH. So (on post #11) it kept the words 'here is' but removed the embedded link on auto, I think. I tried to do the link again on post #13 but when I tested it (on preview) I found it blocked by DH, so I just made the post an apology lol and left it at that. And besides, swimtech has posted some good links.

I am also following along for the heads up for when I get to upgrade.

Mac Daddy · Jun 16, 2009, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cozumel

I think the forum I linked to is on an automatic ban from DH. So (on post #11) it kept the words 'here is' but removed the embedded link on auto, I think. I tried to do the link again on post #13 but when I tested it (on preview) I found it blocked by DH, so I just made the post an apology lol and left it at that.

No worries then and no harm done mate

Jun 14, 2009, 01:53 AM	#3
Mac Daddy DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 7,950 Rep Power: 79 System Specs	Re: What Am I doing Wrong ??? Looks that way here too Ty. As for our valuable time drwho we are here to help Bro. Wish I had an i7 processor and X58 mobo to provide some feedback. Since I don't own either of those I can only speculate on my advise. In my BIOS there is a setting called EIST disable it if it is included in the X58 BIOS. Enhanced Intel SpeedStep® Technology How To Document __________________ "My mom said the only reason men are alive is for lawn care and vehicle maintenance." - Tim Allen

Jun 14, 2009, 01:53 AM	#4
swimtech HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,040 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	Re: What Am I doing Wrong ??? It's likely that nothing's wrong at all. Since you are basically idle, the CPU is in a power saving mode. Try downloading and running Prime95 available Here and run it. It should run in a window - not full screen - so you can run CPU-Z at the same time and watch your clock speed jump to full speed when the program puts a load on your CPU and memory. __________________ It's not so much getting your way that matters or not - what matters is how you go about getting it.

Jun 14, 2009, 07:00 PM	#6
swimtech HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,040 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	Re: What Am I doing Wrong ??? Cool - and glad you got Prime95 going ok 'cause I got notice it had BSOD'd on you, and I was at a loss to explain that issue... Now, like Mac Daddy mentioned, you can if you like go back into your Bios setup and turn off EIST and other power saving settings if you'd like to run your machine's CPU and memory clock manually and not have the mainboard controlling things based upon CPU load. Some boards will even allow overclocking with the power saving settings left on - some won't - I don't know about your particular board. But, that is part of the adventure of getting new components and jiggling with the settings - overclocking or not! Generally though, overclocking with power saving features left on in the bios reduces overclock stability and increases the number of factors you have to remember to keep track of while adjusting overclocking parameters. If I were you, I'd run your machine awhile at stock and learn how your system reacts to the various settings you choose. My personal opinion - your processor and mainboard are ideally suited for some overclocking experimentation. If you decide to do that, go slow, read a lot, learn your components, see what others with your same stuff are able to do. This incident has obviously helped you to get to know how your system reacts to the settings you've chosen. You've got a really nice MB/CPU combo going there! __________________ It's not so much getting your way that matters or not - what matters is how you go about getting it.

Jun 15, 2009, 01:03 AM	#8
Mac Daddy DriverHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 7,950 Rep Power: 79 System Specs	Re: What Am I doing Wrong ??? If the EIST setting resolved this issue as it did on my E6550 / X38 then the principles may in fact be similar. The only real difference is the i7 uses an on CPU memory controller much like the AMD CPU's. I don't have an i7 CPU or X58 board here but if I was sent one I surely would write a comprehensive guide on overclocking this. Anyway glad you got this issue solved mate __________________ "My mom said the only reason men are alive is for lawn care and vehicle maintenance." - Tim Allen

Jun 15, 2009, 07:10 PM	#12
swimtech HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,040 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	Re: What Am I doing Wrong ??? Here's a page at Xbit Labs from a review they did on the board that might help - looks interesting too. Here as well at DH in the midst of the January 2009 mainboard roundup is some information, including a link to complete bios screens, on the Foxconn Bloodrage board. These may assist you some, I hope... __________________ It's not so much getting your way that matters or not - what matters is how you go about getting it.

Jun 14, 2009, 01:09 AM	#1
drwho HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Carol Stream, IL Posts: 572 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	What Am I doing Wrong ??? As some of you may know I was having alot of problems with a Biostar Tpower X58 board that had a cold boot problem. I couldn't find a cure so I replaced the Biostar board with a Foxconn BloodRage GTI. That solved my cold boot problems. Now, I'm not sure I have a problem or not? Look at the screen below I'm not OCing and at the moment everthing is at stock. Looking at those two screens it says that my i7 940 processor is running at 1604MHz. I'd swear I have things setup in the Bios correctly, but now I'm not sure. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. One more thing, I'm sure I haven't given enough info, so if you need something else, please ask. I apologize for taking up your valuable time. __________________

Jun 15, 2009, 03:33 AM	#11
cozumel I'm dangerous but cute... Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Under the waves... Posts: 3,577 Rep Power: 60 System Specs	Re: What Am I doing Wrong ??? Apologies, if I had read your first post properly I would have known your specs were wrong. Here is a thread on overclocking the BloodRage. Although it is not the GTI version, much of the BIOS layout should be similar I would think. __________________ Don't worry about money - Be a beach bum! Scuba Rocks

Jun 15, 2009, 07:23 PM	#13
cozumel I'm dangerous but cute... Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Under the waves... Posts: 3,577 Rep Power: 60 System Specs	Re: What Am I doing Wrong ??? Double apology. I think DH banned my linky on my previous post. Apologies. __________________ Don't worry about money - Be a beach bum! Scuba Rocks