I just cleared my CMOS and need help

21DS · Feb 28, 2004, 05:40 AM

The story started when i set my ram timing to low and my computer wouldent boot or even send a signal to the monitor. I used the jumper method to clear my CMOS now the computer starts but i get a BIOS NOT INSTALLED msg, don't really know what to do about that! and i cant boot to windows i cant even select my hard drive in the boot sequence. I have a SATA RAID if that makes any diffrence. Any help on this issue would be great. also im kinda a noob so keep that in mind in your answers thanks.

The_Neon_Cowboy · Feb 28, 2004, 05:47 AM

what board is it? soind like the bios is hosed yo may need to reflash/ or try a bios recovery

Judas · Feb 28, 2004, 07:01 AM

....first thing first..... did you flip the switch at the back and unplug the computer completely before moving the cmos jump.... and then moving it back.... and then plug and fire up?.... sounds like you might have completely erased the

DarkFoss · Feb 28, 2004, 03:29 PM

What motherboard is it btw?

21DS · Feb 28, 2004, 04:04 PM

Its a MSI Kt8 neo for my athlon64 3200+, and yes i completly unpluged before i changed the jumped and then yes i did put it back in the right position.

21DS · Feb 28, 2004, 04:06 PM

about my BISO being tost i can still enter my BIOS and change things. but for some reason it cant locaqte my HD in the boot sequence.

DarkFoss · Feb 28, 2004, 05:18 PM

In the bios did you change the boot sequence to include sata? Normally after clearing the cmos it's something like floppy, cd-rom,hd-0 which is ide1 channel. You have to manually configure the bios to enable booting from sata. I'm now downloading the k8t manual, there may be another setting in advanced chipsets where you have to enable sata as well. like on my nf7-s. I'll post back in a bit after looking it over.

21DS · Feb 28, 2004, 05:32 PM

In the bood sequence it was like 1.floppy 2.disabled(or unavailable) 3. CD-ROM

i just decided to do a fresh install of windows, its installing right now but for somereason it still sais BIOS not iinstalled which is messed up because it must ditect my harddrive since i am installing windows

DarkFoss · Feb 28, 2004, 05:53 PM

Well I downloaded the manual and there's very scarce bios info there

Anyways if yours is an award bios similar to mine you'll need to enable the sata controller as well.
In your bios head into the Intergrated Peripherals section you should see 2 listings for Onchip Pci Device
My sata is listed in the second one. You should see something like
Sata Controller
Sata Raid Rom
Make sure they are enabled especially the first one..If your not using raid I think you can leave the second one disabled but I just enable them both anyways . On my board they are disabled by default...

Judas · Feb 28, 2004, 06:32 PM

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Originally posted by 21DS
In the bood sequence it was like 1.floppy 2.disabled(or unavailable) 3. CD-ROM

i just decided to do a fresh install of windows, its installing right now but for somereason it still sais BIOS not iinstalled which is messed up because it must ditect my harddrive since i am installing windows

this is an extremely odd thing as when ever i've seen the "bios not installed" message... the computer won't even boot.... as there isn't a bios to do it.....extremely odd..

DarkFoss · Feb 28, 2004, 06:43 PM

Here's a link thats more specific might have an answer for your problem.
http://forum.msi.com.tw/thread.php?t...b54db9d25c4be8

**Roadee** · Feb 28, 2004, 06:44 PM

I think the message may be for the SATA Bios. Can you change the boot sequence? With #2 being disabled you need to "enable" it and choose SATA, and then make sure that your SATA devices are enabled. But in any case, if you are able to enter the BIOS and change things, than at best your BIOS may be corrupted, in which can be fixed by flashing it, though this should really only be done by someone that has experience in this matter. Flashing a BIOS incorrectly can damage your mother board.

Matth · Feb 28, 2004, 06:46 PM

My SCSI card says "BIOS not installed" as it doesn't have any drives which need BIOS (I only use it for a scanner).

I'd guess the message is from a SCSI, SATA or RAID controller

21DS · Feb 28, 2004, 06:57 PM

After a format and window install i can boot to windows. it still sais BIOS not install, but i can enter bios and chang things. Also before i couldent select my hard drive in the boot sequence i dont know about now, havent checked but it boots to windows so im gessing its good. Im downloading new raid drivers as we speak maybe that will do something. One more question tho u guys think its worth geting an audigy 2 zs i currently have onboard audio, i have logitech z-560 speakers so there not too bad, will i notice a diffrence with a audigy?

Feb 28, 2004, 05:40 AM	#1
21DS DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	I just cleared my CMOS and need help The story started when i set my ram timing to low and my computer wouldent boot or even send a signal to the monitor. I used the jumper method to clear my CMOS now the computer starts but i get a BIOS NOT INSTALLED msg, don't really know what to do about that! and i cant boot to windows i cant even select my hard drive in the boot sequence. I have a SATA RAID if that makes any diffrence. Any help on this issue would be great. also im kinda a noob so keep that in mind in your answers thanks.

Feb 28, 2004, 03:29 PM	#4
DarkFoss HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Downers Grove IL Posts: 688 Rep Power: 0	What motherboard is it btw? __________________ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety,deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Ben Franklin, 1755

Feb 28, 2004, 05:18 PM	#7
DarkFoss HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Downers Grove IL Posts: 688 Rep Power: 0	In the bios did you change the boot sequence to include sata? Normally after clearing the cmos it's something like floppy, cd-rom,hd-0 which is ide1 channel. You have to manually configure the bios to enable booting from sata. I'm now downloading the k8t manual, there may be another setting in advanced chipsets where you have to enable sata as well. like on my nf7-s. I'll post back in a bit after looking it over. __________________ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety,deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Ben Franklin, 1755

Feb 28, 2004, 05:53 PM	#9
DarkFoss HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Downers Grove IL Posts: 688 Rep Power: 0	Well I downloaded the manual and there's very scarce bios info there Anyways if yours is an award bios similar to mine you'll need to enable the sata controller as well. In your bios head into the Intergrated Peripherals section you should see 2 listings for Onchip Pci Device My sata is listed in the second one. You should see something like Sata Controller Sata Raid Rom Make sure they are enabled especially the first one..If your not using raid I think you can leave the second one disabled but I just enable them both anyways . On my board they are disabled by default... __________________ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety,deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Ben Franklin, 1755 Last edited by DarkFoss; Feb 28, 2004 at 06:17 PM.

Feb 28, 2004, 06:43 PM	#11
DarkFoss HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Downers Grove IL Posts: 688 Rep Power: 0	Here's a link thats more specific might have an answer for your problem. http://forum.msi.com.tw/thread.php?t...b54db9d25c4be8 __________________ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety,deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Ben Franklin, 1755

Feb 28, 2004, 05:47 AM	#2
The_Neon_Cowboy HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 16,009 Rep Power: 90 System Specs	what board is it? soind like the bios is hosed yo may need to reflash/ or try a bios recovery __________________

Feb 28, 2004, 04:04 PM	Thread Starter #5
21DS DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	Its a MSI Kt8 neo for my athlon64 3200+, and yes i completly unpluged before i changed the jumped and then yes i did put it back in the right position.

Feb 28, 2004, 04:06 PM	Thread Starter #6
21DS DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	about my BISO being tost i can still enter my BIOS and change things. but for some reason it cant locaqte my HD in the boot sequence.

Feb 28, 2004, 05:32 PM	Thread Starter #8
21DS DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	In the bood sequence it was like 1.floppy 2.disabled(or unavailable) 3. CD-ROM i just decided to do a fresh install of windows, its installing right now but for somereason it still sais BIOS not iinstalled which is messed up because it must ditect my harddrive since i am installing windows

Feb 28, 2004, 06:44 PM	#12
Roadee Never forgotten Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Rest In peace, Joe. Posts: 2,198 Rep Power: 67	I think the message may be for the SATA Bios. Can you change the boot sequence? With #2 being disabled you need to "enable" it and choose SATA, and then make sure that your SATA devices are enabled. But in any case, if you are able to enter the BIOS and change things, than at best your BIOS may be corrupted, in which can be fixed by flashing it, though this should really only be done by someone that has experience in this matter. Flashing a BIOS incorrectly can damage your mother board. __________________ We are born naked, wet, and hungry. Then things get worse.

Feb 28, 2004, 06:46 PM	#13
Matth Flash Banner Hater Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: UK Posts: 3,410 Rep Power: 91 System Specs	My SCSI card says "BIOS not installed" as it doesn't have any drives which need BIOS (I only use it for a scanner). I'd guess the message is from a SCSI, SATA or RAID controller

Feb 28, 2004, 06:57 PM	Thread Starter #14
21DS DriverHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	After a format and window install i can boot to windows. it still sais BIOS not install, but i can enter bios and chang things. Also before i couldent select my hard drive in the boot sequence i dont know about now, havent checked but it boots to windows so im gessing its good. Im downloading new raid drivers as we speak maybe that will do something. One more question tho u guys think its worth geting an audigy 2 zs i currently have onboard audio, i have logitech z-560 speakers so there not too bad, will i notice a diffrence with a audigy?