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AT_curiousB · Mar 1, 2004, 10:45 AM

Guys I really need some help here.

I purchased a new Mobo, an Asus A7N8X - X, along with an AMD 300XP, and a Maxtor 120GB hard drive.

I knew that in changing the Mobo and processor I would have to re-install windows, found that I had misplaced my windows disk, but found that eventually. Installed all the bits into my box, formatted and partitioned the hard drive, installed windows, then thought that I could hook up the two 40GIG hard drives I already have one at a time in order to copy the files and folders I would need to transfer to the new hard drive.

No go though, I have the new hard drive set as master, and set the other to slave, but I cannot boot past the post screen, get a message about lsdr is missing.

Any pointers you can give me would be really appreciated

PS the new processor is showing as unrecognised CPU, I have downloaded and installe dthe latest BIOS for this board, any ideas why this would be?

Logla · Mar 1, 2004, 10:51 AM

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Originally posted by AT_curiousB
Guys I really need some help here.

I purchased a new Mobo, an Asus A7N8X - X, along with an AMD 300XP, and a Maxtor 120GB hard drive.

I knew that in changing the Mobo and processor I would have to re-install windows, found that I had misplaced my windows disk, but found that eventually. Installed all the bits into my box, formatted and partitioned the hard drive, installed windows, then thought that I could hook up the two 40GIG hard drives I already have one at a time in order to copy the files and folders I would need to transfer to the new hard drive.

No go though, I have the new hard drive set as master, and set the other to slave, but I cannot boot past the post screen, get a message about lsdr is missing.

Any pointers you can give me would be really appreciated

Have you tried putting the 40gig drive onto the other IDE channel instead of the same one as the 120gig?

I've got a 20gig Maxtor that will not allow the pc to boot if connected to the same IDE channel as an optical drive. They can be a bit wierd like that.

AT_curiousB · Mar 1, 2004, 10:54 AM

Thanks Logla, have already tried that, with same result.

Logla · Mar 1, 2004, 11:19 AM

I've just re-read your original post. It looks like the machine is trying to boot from the 40gig instead of the 120gig. I take it that it boots fine with just the 120gig on its own?
I can't remember what you need to do in this situation but, you probably will need them on 2 separate ide channels and then in the BIOS have a look to see if you can change the boot priority of the drives. I don't know your motherboard personally so I don't know what the particular BIOS options will be.
I do reckon though that its seeing the 40gig and that drive used to have a windows partition on it and is trying to boot from that one first.

If there is a certain workaround then someone will know what it is.

PangingJr · Mar 1, 2004, 12:04 PM

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Originally posted by AT_curiousB
get a message about lsdr is missing.

re: the lsdr is missing.
pls confirm the error again, are you sure its not the "NTLDR" or "NT LDR"

if it was the NTLDR, then you probably have Windows installed on the 40gig too.

Can you boot the system after disconect the 40gig?

AT_curiousB · Mar 1, 2004, 12:44 PM

Thanks LOGLa that sure is what the problem is. panging, yes that is the message, and yes I can boot from the 120 after disconnecting the 40

PangingJr · Mar 1, 2004, 01:10 PM

boot you PC with the Partiton Magic rescue disks,
locate the 2nd HDD (40gig), then either 'delete' the partition or 'hide' it,
but if you also need to get your files from that partition you may have to convert the partition from 'primary' to 'logical'...

maybe that's too much for you, how about start all over,
1st, connect the 40gig as Master and see if you can boot into windows on this HDD,
if so, let do it this way.. transfer all your needed files to a partition on the 120gig,
then reinstall windows to the 120gig,

there's more ways to do this.. b4 i can give you the right steps pls tell me.. Do you need to get any files from the old XP partition on the 40gig?

AT_curiousB · Mar 1, 2004, 01:20 PM

Thanks paning, I cannot boot from the 40 GIG, even if it is alone and set as master, your suggestion re the use of partition magic seems to be the way to go, funny how the obvious never strikes you.

PangingJr · Mar 1, 2004, 01:31 PM

i hope you still use the floppy drive?
pls read this - http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthre...threadid=38565
for how to make the PM rescue disks and the XP boot floppy disk (just incase and you may need this disk).

Vampyromaniac · Mar 1, 2004, 08:51 PM

might this be a case of Windows being confused with the additional drive, because of the boot.ini file?

PangingJr · Mar 1, 2004, 09:25 PM

yes, well its kind of, there're 2 sets of boot and system files there and the 2 partitions are both primary, in this case you cannot boot into windows on the 2nd HDD while the 1st HDD is the active partition..

XP only support booting from main HDD, it does not support boot direct from 2nd HDD (win9xME do support) it means we need to have XP's boot files on one of the primary partition on the main HDD and this partition need to be active.

if we modify/add an OS to the boot.ini file and boot then drive letter will change and the XP on the 2nd HDD may not work.

Logla · Mar 1, 2004, 11:58 PM

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Originally posted by AT_curiousB
Thanks paning, I cannot boot from the 40 GIG, even if it is alone and set as master, your suggestion re the use of partition magic seems to be the way to go, funny how the obvious never strikes you.

I thnk that some files get left behind even after you remove windows - thats probablyt what causes this.
Let us know how you get on mate.

PangingJr · Mar 2, 2004, 03:38 AM

Logla, i think he was telling me that he did tried to put the old HDD(40gig) back to 'master' and he couldnt boot from it so the Windows XP was still on the HDD at the time.
the reason why he couldnt boot into windows was/is the boot.ini file which's on the old XP partition had been modified when he had set the HDD as 'slave' and tried to boot and then got the error as stated on his very 1st posted. this can be resolved also but i dont know what/which way he went after that, i did sent a couple PMs to check with him.. whether he needs more info or not.. but no reply from him...

AT_curiousB · Mar 2, 2004, 08:02 AM

Thank you both Logla and Panging, your help and suggestions have let ne at least get to one of the hard drives. The other with windows on , well it is going to take longer. Really though thank you both. panging, please check your pm

PangingJr · Mar 2, 2004, 12:54 PM

You're welcome and No Prob.
anyway, pls ask if you're not sure maybe you've never done this before..
dont lose your files on the old XP partition.

AT_curiousB · Mar 2, 2004, 04:29 PM

Just to update you guys, i have managed to gain acces to the original windows disk, using Partition magic to convert it and then to transfer the files to my shiny new 120GIG, again thank you both.

PangingJr · Mar 2, 2004, 05:13 PM

Glad you have it sorted. i'm sure Logla would be happy too..
anyway, if you plan to use/connect the old HDD when you've done with the old XP partition, delete the partition then recreate a new ones or just format it so you wont have any prob with your current XP.

WildChild · Mar 2, 2004, 10:52 PM

set your bios to only boot from the newest drive big guyif the old drives have xp on em it won't matter you should be able to still go into those drives after your booted up and retrieve the files you need.

PangingJr · Mar 3, 2004, 04:05 AM

i open the setting for changing between HDD and floppy drive to boot from many times why dont i think of that as my 1st choice i'll have to relearn many things and not just think-about software systems all the time. thanks for reminding me that's another option right there and it could be easier..

Mar 1, 2004, 10:45 AM	#1
AT_curiousB DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2002 Location: England Posts: 128 Rep Power: 0	Help Guys I really need some help here. I purchased a new Mobo, an Asus A7N8X - X, along with an AMD 300XP, and a Maxtor 120GB hard drive. I knew that in changing the Mobo and processor I would have to re-install windows, found that I had misplaced my windows disk, but found that eventually. Installed all the bits into my box, formatted and partitioned the hard drive, installed windows, then thought that I could hook up the two 40GIG hard drives I already have one at a time in order to copy the files and folders I would need to transfer to the new hard drive. No go though, I have the new hard drive set as master, and set the other to slave, but I cannot boot past the post screen, get a message about lsdr is missing. Any pointers you can give me would be really appreciated PS the new processor is showing as unrecognised CPU, I have downloaded and installe dthe latest BIOS for this board, any ideas why this would be? __________________ Bill Last edited by AT_curiousB; Mar 1, 2004 at 10:52 AM.

Mar 1, 2004, 10:54 AM	Thread Starter #3
AT_curiousB DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2002 Location: England Posts: 128 Rep Power: 0	Thanks Logla, have already tried that, with same result. __________________ Bill

Mar 1, 2004, 12:44 PM	Thread Starter #6
AT_curiousB DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2002 Location: England Posts: 128 Rep Power: 0	Thanks LOGLa that sure is what the problem is. panging, yes that is the message, and yes I can boot from the 120 after disconnecting the 40 __________________ Bill

Mar 1, 2004, 01:20 PM	Thread Starter #8
AT_curiousB DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2002 Location: England Posts: 128 Rep Power: 0	Thanks paning, I cannot boot from the 40 GIG, even if it is alone and set as master, your suggestion re the use of partition magic seems to be the way to go, funny how the obvious never strikes you. __________________ Bill

Mar 1, 2004, 08:51 PM	#10
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Mar 1, 2004, 11:19 AM	#4
Logla HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3,311 Rep Power: 0	I've just re-read your original post. It looks like the machine is trying to boot from the 40gig instead of the 120gig. I take it that it boots fine with just the 120gig on its own? I can't remember what you need to do in this situation but, you probably will need them on 2 separate ide channels and then in the BIOS have a look to see if you can change the boot priority of the drives. I don't know your motherboard personally so I don't know what the particular BIOS options will be. I do reckon though that its seeing the 40gig and that drive used to have a windows partition on it and is trying to boot from that one first. If there is a certain workaround then someone will know what it is.

Mar 1, 2004, 01:10 PM	#7
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	boot you PC with the Partiton Magic rescue disks, locate the 2nd HDD (40gig), then either 'delete' the partition or 'hide' it, but if you also need to get your files from that partition you may have to convert the partition from 'primary' to 'logical'... maybe that's too much for you, how about start all over, 1st, connect the 40gig as Master and see if you can boot into windows on this HDD, if so, let do it this way.. transfer all your needed files to a partition on the 120gig, then reinstall windows to the 120gig, there's more ways to do this.. b4 i can give you the right steps pls tell me.. Do you need to get any files from the old XP partition on the 40gig?

Mar 1, 2004, 01:31 PM	#9
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	i hope you still use the floppy drive? pls read this - http://www.hardwareheaven.com/showthre...threadid=38565 for how to make the PM rescue disks and the XP boot floppy disk (just incase and you may need this disk).

Mar 1, 2004, 09:25 PM	#11
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	yes, well its kind of, there're 2 sets of boot and system files there and the 2 partitions are both primary, in this case you cannot boot into windows on the 2nd HDD while the 1st HDD is the active partition.. XP only support booting from main HDD, it does not support boot direct from 2nd HDD (win9xME do support) it means we need to have XP's boot files on one of the primary partition on the main HDD and this partition need to be active. if we modify/add an OS to the boot.ini file and boot then drive letter will change and the XP on the 2nd HDD may not work. Last edited by Net; Mar 1, 2004 at 09:51 PM.

Mar 2, 2004, 03:38 AM	#13
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	Logla, i think he was telling me that he did tried to put the old HDD(40gig) back to 'master' and he couldnt boot from it so the Windows XP was still on the HDD at the time. the reason why he couldnt boot into windows was/is the boot.ini file which's on the old XP partition had been modified when he had set the HDD as 'slave' and tried to boot and then got the error as stated on his very 1st posted. this can be resolved also but i dont know what/which way he went after that, i did sent a couple PMs to check with him.. whether he needs more info or not.. but no reply from him...

Mar 2, 2004, 08:02 AM	Thread Starter #14
AT_curiousB DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2002 Location: England Posts: 128 Rep Power: 0	Thank you both Logla and Panging, your help and suggestions have let ne at least get to one of the hard drives. The other with windows on , well it is going to take longer. Really though thank you both. panging, please check your pm __________________ Bill

Mar 2, 2004, 12:54 PM	#15
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	You're welcome and No Prob. anyway, pls ask if you're not sure maybe you've never done this before.. dont lose your files on the old XP partition.

Mar 2, 2004, 04:29 PM	Thread Starter #16
AT_curiousB DriverHeaven Lover Join Date: May 2002 Location: England Posts: 128 Rep Power: 0	Just to update you guys, i have managed to gain acces to the original windows disk, using Partition magic to convert it and then to transfer the files to my shiny new 120GIG, again thank you both. __________________ Bill

Mar 2, 2004, 05:13 PM	#17
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	Glad you have it sorted. i'm sure Logla would be happy too.. anyway, if you plan to use/connect the old HDD when you've done with the old XP partition, delete the partition then recreate a new ones or just format it so you wont have any prob with your current XP.

Mar 2, 2004, 10:52 PM	#18
WildChild I'm Still Watching Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Jersey,U.S.A. Posts: 1,068 Rep Power: 0 System Specs	set your bios to only boot from the newest drive big guyif the old drives have xp on em it won't matter you should be able to still go into those drives after your booted up and retrieve the files you need. __________________ Knowledge is SCARY,Stupidity is REALLY frightening

Mar 3, 2004, 04:05 AM	#19
PangingJr Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,989 Rep Power: 71	i open the setting for changing between HDD and floppy drive to boot from many times why dont i think of that as my 1st choice i'll have to relearn many things and not just think-about software systems all the time. thanks for reminding me that's another option right there and it could be easier..