LCD Monitor...

merlinxi · Sep 30, 2004, 03:11 PM

Since this forum is MISC. What do you guys think, I want to get this LCD monitor:

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduc...021-010&DEPA=1

I have a 21" Sony CRT right now. BUT a 19" LCD is virtually the same viewable area. What do you guys think?

Merlin

WisMerHill · Oct 6, 2004, 12:23 PM

mmm if you play games or watch dvd's on that pc i would advise against it. the 25.0ms refresh means it will have ghosting when displaying a fast changing picture.

for me CRT is still the way to go, i only use TFT's alongside lcd's. Maybe OLED technology will change that, but for now the benefits of a crt weigh heavier then the disadvantages (size, weight and poweruse)

So for office work i can recommend a TFT but for everthing else i'd choose CRT.

Vampyromaniac · Oct 6, 2004, 06:10 PM

agreed, esp considering the quality of your current monitor, don't switch to that LCD

Zardon · Oct 6, 2004, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by WisMerHill

So for office work i can recommend a TFT but for everthing else i'd choose CRT.

I was always in the same mindset as yourself, but I have to defend the most expensive TFTs right now, one being the 20 inch Dell 2001fp. Quite a few People seem to be totally under the impression that every TFT has ghosting/blurring on fast moving scenes or banding/stepping on colour, but if you are willing to spend the money on the best this doesnt occur. The dell 2001dp I mentioned has a 16 ms refresh with true 24 bit colour.

I have had at least 20 CRTS in my lifetime with my last one being the high end illyama 22inch vision master pro and after seeing a demonstration of the Dell 2001fp in a local store and sitting with it in photoshop and firing a few games up, the difference is simply night and day.

Its quite understandable though many people see the med range or low end TFTs in stores like Dixons and jump to the conclusion that every TFT is inferior to a CRT but it is not the case anymore.

swimtech · Oct 7, 2004, 02:41 AM

Indeed, for gaming, you have to spend the money to get a LCD display that will perform as well (or better, to the eye) as a good CRT based unit because of the movement on the screen.

The particular LCD display you are considering will likely disappoint you when you are viewing moving material - video or gaming. Nearly any modern LCD really shines though for clarity and image stability on text and non-moving graphics.

Judas · Oct 7, 2004, 04:40 AM

ATM though, untill the extremely high end TFT's drop in price and the tech move into the mid/budget range... CRTS are still best choice if you can get one.... and generally less expensive.... I can forsee within the next 2 years... TFT's being a serious all round contender... and moving to them would be without any cons...

kelticknight · Dec 11, 2004, 09:03 PM

friend is buying a sony sdm-hs94p which is a19 inche with response time of 12 ms

what you think
its about 732 euros[ 494 pounds
?????????

DarkFoss · Dec 12, 2004, 12:20 AM

I'm very happy with this monitor replacing my kds xf9e crt. Very affordable for those on a budget, 50$ manufacturor's rebate. No ghosting issues with UT2K3-4, EQ/EQ2. I haven't tried it out with Photoshop yet. If you don't mind being limited to a 1280X1024 screen, I definately recommend heading to a local store and giving it a look-over. No regrets here, should tide me over nicely for the next couple years until newer tech becomes cheaper, then it will make a nice replacement for my daughter.

pr0digal jenius · Dec 13, 2004, 12:26 AM

syncmasters are extremely nice

my roommate has the 19"

Warpy · Dec 13, 2004, 12:41 AM

I have just got a new LCD 19" with a 12ms response time and it works great without ghosting only cost me $725 AUD too.

Compared to my buddies 21" **Cough** monitor it is only out by 1inch since a 21" CRT is most likely to be 20" or 19".

pr0digal jenius · Dec 13, 2004, 01:50 AM

mine is 21" CTY with 20" viewable...lol

lime · Dec 13, 2004, 02:53 AM

what 19" LCD did you buy with a 12ms response time ???

Warpy · Dec 13, 2004, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by lime

what 19" LCD did you buy with a 12ms response time ???

BENQ FP937 19'' TFT Monitor (Silver) (DVI) 12Ms

kelticknight · Dec 13, 2004, 10:38 PM

sony sdm-h94p ,19'' with a 12 ms ,the fastest 19'' is hyandai imagequest l90d+ 19'' with 8ms at overclockers.co.uk

kelticknight · Dec 13, 2004, 10:40 PM

at moment looking at dells 20'' ultrasharp with 16ms,a bit slower,its about the best for the money as far as price goes and well under 20ms

EDERPOTTER · Dec 19, 2004, 12:16 AM

MINE is the samsung SyncMater793df " 17 "

tastyweat · Dec 19, 2004, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merlinxi

Since this forum is MISC. What do you guys think, I want to get this LCD monitor:

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduc...021-010&DEPA=1

I have a 21" Sony CRT right now. BUT a 19" LCD is virtually the same viewable area. What do you guys think?

Merlin

Do not go for a 19" tft... the image always looks stretched and the colours tend to wash out... plus 25ms could give ghosting.

If you are going to get a tft then you want to get a 17" or a 20"... with 16ms and dvi

tEckniks · Dec 20, 2004, 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funky Monkey

I have just got a new LCD 19" with a 12ms response time and it works great without ghosting only cost me $725 AUD too.

Compared to my buddies 21" **Cough** monitor it is only out by 1inch since a 21" CRT is most likely to be 20" or 19".

how do you like the benq lcd? is there anything you dont like about it?

im in the market for a lcd now.. i really want the hp f2304 23inch lcd.. too much money

Warpy · Dec 20, 2004, 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tEckniks

how do you like the benq lcd? is there anything you dont like about it?

im in the market for a lcd now.. i really want the hp f2304 23inch lcd.. too much money

Well my LCD is very nice... what I like about it is the DVI connector option as well as the slimline design. It's very attractive and sleek, the image quality is spot on and with 12ms I dont think you can go wrong for the price.

One thing to note though, the color pallete is 6bit not 8bit - this is noticable if your a photoshop enthuiast. I was told about the 6bit color pallete and compared it to a 19" Sony and couldnt tell the difference until the gentlman in the shop pointed the comparison - which was in my opinion not worth worrying about.

I use the PC for gaming, surfing the net and Worldbuilder and it is great too using widescreen in CS Source (16:10).

mitchy · Dec 23, 2004, 08:11 PM

i just purchased the hp f2304, it is nice i found it for cheaper than the model without speakers :S

i need to update my computer now so i can play some games in 1920*1200

Sep 30, 2004, 03:11 PM	#1
merlinxi The Paranoid Cook Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 655 Rep Power: 0	LCD Monitor... Since this forum is MISC. What do you guys think, I want to get this LCD monitor: http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduc...021-010&DEPA=1 I have a 21" Sony CRT right now. BUT a 19" LCD is virtually the same viewable area. What do you guys think? Merlin __________________ 700 Watt Toughpower Cable Management Power supply -- Asus P55 LE Motherboard -- Intel Core i7 860 2.8GHZ Quad Core -- 6Gb Dominator Ram DD3 8 Latency Timings -- Windows 7 64bit -- Gigabyte GTX470 Superclocked Video Card -- 1.5 TB Hard drive, 1TB hard drive, 250GB Hard drive, and a partridge in a pear tree.

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WisMerHill DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 468 Rep Power: 0	mmm if you play games or watch dvd's on that pc i would advise against it. the 25.0ms refresh means it will have ghosting when displaying a fast changing picture. for me CRT is still the way to go, i only use TFT's alongside lcd's. Maybe OLED technology will change that, but for now the benefits of a crt weigh heavier then the disadvantages (size, weight and poweruse) So for office work i can recommend a TFT but for everthing else i'd choose CRT. __________________ [color=sandybrown][color=white] [/color] [color=white][color=white]M[/color][color=white]y Computer[/color]: [/color][color=white]3DMark2001[/color][color=white] - [/color][color=white]3Dmark2003[/color][color=white] - [/color][color=white]3DMark200[/color][color=white]5[/color][color=white] - [/color][color=white]PCMark2004[/color][/color]

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swimtech HardwareHeaven Extreme Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 4,040 Rep Power: 124 System Specs	Indeed, for gaming, you have to spend the money to get a LCD display that will perform as well (or better, to the eye) as a good CRT based unit because of the movement on the screen. The particular LCD display you are considering will likely disappoint you when you are viewing moving material - video or gaming. Nearly any modern LCD really shines though for clarity and image stability on text and non-moving graphics. __________________ It's not so much getting your way that matters or not - what matters is how you go about getting it.

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DarkFoss HardwareHeaven Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Downers Grove IL Posts: 688 Rep Power: 0	I'm very happy with this monitor replacing my kds xf9e crt. Very affordable for those on a budget, 50$ manufacturor's rebate. No ghosting issues with UT2K3-4, EQ/EQ2. I haven't tried it out with Photoshop yet. If you don't mind being limited to a 1280X1024 screen, I definately recommend heading to a local store and giving it a look-over. No regrets here, should tide me over nicely for the next couple years until newer tech becomes cheaper, then it will make a nice replacement for my daughter. __________________ Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety,deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Ben Franklin, 1755

Dec 11, 2004, 09:03 PM	#7
kelticknight DriverHeaven Knight Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: EIRE{great for black stuff ,bulmers cider and Munster rubgy Posts: 1,095 Rep Power: 0	friend is buying a sony sdm-hs94p which is a19 inche with response time of 12 ms what you think its about 732 euros[ 494 pounds ?????????

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pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	syncmasters are extremely nice my roommate has the 19"

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Warpy DriverHeaven Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 2,761 Rep Power: 0	I have just got a new LCD 19" with a 12ms response time and it works great without ghosting only cost me $725 AUD too. Compared to my buddies 21" Cough monitor it is only out by 1inch since a 21" CRT is most likely to be 20" or 19". __________________ The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

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pr0digal jenius Delete Me Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 14,648 Rep Power: 0	mine is 21" CTY with 20" viewable...lol

Dec 13, 2004, 02:53 AM	#12
lime DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	what 19" LCD did you buy with a 12ms response time ???

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kelticknight DriverHeaven Knight Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: EIRE{great for black stuff ,bulmers cider and Munster rubgy Posts: 1,095 Rep Power: 0	sony sdm-h94p ,19'' with a 12 ms ,the fastest 19'' is hyandai imagequest l90d+ 19'' with 8ms at overclockers.co.uk

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kelticknight DriverHeaven Knight Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: EIRE{great for black stuff ,bulmers cider and Munster rubgy Posts: 1,095 Rep Power: 0	at moment looking at dells 20'' ultrasharp with 16ms,a bit slower,its about the best for the money as far as price goes and well under 20ms

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EDERPOTTER DriverHeaven Newbie Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: BRAZIL Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	MINE is the samsung SyncMater793df " 17 " __________________ WOT R U LOOKING AT?...,PENTIUM4 2.40 GHZ,512MB RAM,XFXGEFORCEFX5200 256MB RAM.ASUS P4S800D.

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mitchy HardwareHeaven Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 23 Rep Power: 0	i just purchased the hp f2304, it is nice i found it for cheaper than the model without speakers :S i need to update my computer now so i can play some games in 1920*1200